On Dec 31, 2007, at 1:42 PM, Mic Rushen wrote:
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 11:35:07 -0500, you wrote:
I’m sure there was a
noseband, and I think it was dropped – maybe Mic has the picture.
Here she is. Pics by John Freeman. It's a flash.
Mic
Good Lord, Mic - how awful. Who is the rider? It bette
On Dec 31, 2007 2:42 PM, Mic Rushen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here she is. Pics by John Freeman. It's a flash.
OMG! I consider myself a newbie to horses and even I wouldn't be so,
so, stupid?! to tie a flash that tight!!!
V
On Dec 31, 2007, at 10:42 AM, Mic Rushen wrote:
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 11:35:07 -0500, you wrote:
I’m sure there was a
noseband, and I think it was dropped – maybe Mic has the picture.
Here she is. Pics by John Freeman. It's a flash.
Mic
What the h--- is that leather piece going through
>Good point, Mic! It's been hard, over the years, to try to come up with a
>descriptive name for whatever type of riding it is.
German Icelandic Traditional Style. GITS.
Mic
Mic (Michelle) Rushen
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Hands slightly above pommel. Light contact with horse's mouth. Reins
held in left hand, with or without fingers between the reins. Romal on
right side held in relaxed position in right hand, slightly behind right
thigh. …. I gather this was *not* the the equitation that caused the fuss
in E
>>> In any case, I applaud you and John for taking a stand. I think you'll
do a great job in opening eyes over there and in getting things changed.
AMEN!
Karen Thomas, NC
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>>> With THAT much rein contact and a noseband THAT tight, ANY BIT would be a
>>> problem. That's just ludicrous. Banning the bit seems missing the bigger
>>> point, now doesn't it?
"Bits from other cultures"...? Sheesh, how about banning riders with no clue
and no common decency...? Would
> It's possible Cavallo just printed the article
> without approaching FEIF, or maybe Cavallo did approach them and they
> didn't bother to reply, like with me.
And really, Cavallo doesn't have to contact FEIF for anything. They just
report what they see, and obviously lots of people can see i
Here she is. Pics by John Freeman. It's a flash.
And look at the pull on those 3" lips!
And does FEIF really care? They say "the welfare of the horse is one of our
main concerns". Are they kidding?!?!?
So... are the gaits natural? We just don't know.
The horse has so much interferen
Here she is. Pics by John Freeman. It's a flash. Mic
With THAT much rein contact and a noseband THAT tight, ANY BIT would be a
problem. That's just ludicrous. Banning the bit seems missing the bigger
point, now doesn't it?
Karen Thomas, NC
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 10:29:42 -0800, you wrote:
>Do you think it was an "excuse" on their part, then, to say that they did
>not get to have input on the article?
I don't really know. It's possible Cavallo just printed the article
without approaching FEIF, or maybe Cavallo did approach them and th
Hey, maybe we should be referring to "German Traditional Icelandic
Style Riding"! ; )
No, no, no. Now, Mic, that's not politically correct at all. :)
Ironically, the two people I met first and spent time with in conjunction
with Icelandic horses were Anneliese and Christine Schwartz..
On Dec 31, 2007, at 9:41 AM, Janice McDonald wrote:
what are the tapa ojos for? I need me one of those ponchos... as for
the bit, how does the spoon part work? when you pull back does it
depress the tongue, and if so what is the purpose exactly.
Janice
The tapa ojos sit above the eyes and
> racing. They never, ever used to do it on an oval track in Iceland
> until the last few decades
The pace races in the US are on oval tracks, aren't they?
> Hey, maybe we should be referring to "German Traditional Icelandic
> Style Riding"! ; )
Good point, Mic! It's been hard, over the
> After the WC, I put on my official UK Breeding Leader hat and sent a
> whole bunch of the worst photos of horse abuse from the WC to the head
> of the FEIF sports committee and to Jens Iversen, President of FEIF. I
> asked how they felt the photos tied in with FEIF's goals of horse
> welfare, and
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 08:15:00 -0800, you wrote:
>I have Peruvians and they are all finished in Peruvian bits, which I
>don't consider a particularly harsh bit at all. The finished horse
>works on a loose rein with its mouth closed and its poll flexed.
That's the difference, isn't it? Take a hor
>Hi...my gut feeling was that they withdrew the Peruvian bit due to the
>fact that it is not an "Icelandic" piece of equipment.
That's the FIPO rule they used to withdraw it (though why the hell it
was allowed in the fist place at the WC I don't know).
Will they get to a
>point where only "Icela
>I'm not really talking about Icelanders - FEIF almost seems to be more of a
>European entity to me, but maybe I'm wrong.
It is European, but very strongly influenced by Iceland, Sweden and
Germany purely because they have the most horses and the most members.
>just a couple of years ago? Prev
>> have Peruvians and they are all finished in Peruvian bits
all the PP that i ride with and have seen over the last 10 years are
in hacks or bosals. i remember the first time i rode a PP...lord, i
fell in love with that breed.
Raven
Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies
Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back B
> The cultural disciplines that use a curb or spade bit (Peruvian,Paso
> Fino, vaquero, reining . . .) start the horse from the beginning with
> the final bit in mind -- and that includes several months of bitless
> saddle training in a bosal or bozal.
I think you're right, Lynn; there are two
what are the tapa ojos for? I need me one of those ponchos... as for
the bit, how does the spoon part work? when you pull back does it
depress the tongue, and if so what is the purpose exactly.
Janice
--
yipie tie yie yo
On Dec 31, 2007, at 8:35 AM, Karen Thomas wrote:
Lynn, I hope you didn’t misinterpret what I said as a criticism of
your kind of riding. There are lots of horses in my area, many
breeds, many disciplines, but for some odd reason, I’ve had virtually
no contact with either of the traditio
>> Will Covert DID have some success (as a FEIFInternational Judge) in
getting them to listen - at least the Peruvian spade bit has been
banned. All kudos to him, and especially to Sali Peterson who first
made a noise to the USIHC about the use of the bit and got Will to go
to FEIF with it.
Hi...m
On 30/12/2007, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From FEIF's website:
>
> FEIF answers Cavallo
I believe that FEIF, no matter how much they want to explain away a
situation, is now on the radar screen. I fully expect to see more
unfavorable reports out of Europe.
Wanda
Hi Lynn
>>>I have Peruvians and they are all finished in Peruvian bits, which I
don't consider a particularly harsh bit at all. The finished horse works on
a loose rein with its mouth closed and its poll flexed.
That is the way I have seen Peruvians ridden in bit is like with the spade
bit - th
I have Peruvians and they are all finished in Peruvian bits, which I
don't consider a particularly harsh bit at all. The finished horse works on
a loose rein with its mouth closed and its poll flexed.
Lynn, I hope you didn’t misinterpret what I said as a criticism of your kind
of riding.
On Dec 31, 2007, at 3:58 AM, Karen Thomas wrote:
However, I think Will Covert DID have some success (as a FEIF
International Judge) in getting them to listen - at least the Peruvian
spade
bit has been banned. All kudos to him, and especially to Sali Peterson
who
first made a noise to the USIH
I strongly disagree. The Icelanders are happy to use just about any bit
that works, but as I said before, only the "not fitting culture" argument
could be used.
I'm not really talking about Icelanders - FEIF almost seems to be more of a
European entity to me, but maybe I'm wrong. This is an
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 07:04:43 -0500, you wrote:
> I seldom ride on straight, perfectly groomed trails.
Nor me, but when I do it's a BLAST to ride pace! (specially on the
beach)
Mic
Mic (Michelle) Rushen
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>of the posts) gave me was that they were almost more concerned about the
>"cultural invasion" of using a Spanish-associated bit.
That was the only bit in the FIPO rules that could be legitimately
used to forbid the use of the that bit, so therefore the only real
argument they could use.
Mayb
Walter Feldman Jr writes in the latest Eidfaxi that pace should never
be shown on the oval track, and that the pace component of a 5 gait test
should be moved onto a straight track where the horse and rider can show
pace properly, without risk or undue pressure. I think that's a really good
id
However, I think Will Covert DID have some success (as a FEIF
International Judge) in getting them to listen - at least the Peruvian spade
bit has been banned. All kudos to him, and especially to Sali Peterson who
first made a noise to the USIHC about the use of the bit and got Will to go
to F
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 19:14:34 -0800, you wrote:
>Mic, what are your thoughts about this? any comments / input?
After the WC, I put on my official UK Breeding Leader hat and sent a
whole bunch of the worst photos of horse abuse from the WC to the head
of the FEIF sports committee and to Jens Ivers
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