Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-27 Thread Joshua Juran
On Sep 27, 2010, at 7:02 AM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: What everyone seems to be missing is the fact that the iTunes 10 UI VIOLATES Apple's own guidelines in that ALL applications have to present the same UI as the Mac OS. What you seem to be missing is that Apple has been doing

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-27 Thread Tina K.
On 2010/09/27 02:00, Joshua Juran wrote: I originally objected to the traffic light colors because the functions in question have nothing to do with traffic signals I can see a correlation. Green = Go (big, continue working in the window) Yellow = Pause (minimize, continue working in the

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-27 Thread Bill Chapman
I agree with you assessment On 27/09/10 11:09 AM, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/09/27 02:00, Joshua Juran wrote: I originally objected to the traffic light colors because the functions in question have nothing to do with traffic signals I can see a correlation. Green = Go (big, continue working

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-27 Thread Joshua Juran
On Sep 27, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/09/27 02:00, Joshua Juran wrote: I originally objected to the traffic light colors because the functions in question have nothing to do with traffic signals I can see a correlation. Green = Go (big, continue working in the window)

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-27 Thread Bill Chapman
Just call the 'traffic-lights' a kind of 'paraphrase' of the real deal. They are a brilliant adaptation, close enough. Simple, elegant. If MS came up with that they would make them octagons and about 4 times larger. On 27/09/10 11:46 AM, Joshua Juran wrote: On Sep 27, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Tina

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-27 Thread Dennis B. Swaney
On 27/09/10 09:40PDT, Bill Chapman wrote: Just call the 'traffic-lights' a kind of 'paraphrase' of the real deal. They are a brilliant adaptation, close enough. Simple, elegant. If MS came up with that they would make them octagons and about 4 times larger. They did, but they used squares.

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-27 Thread Bill Chapman
Do you mean Win7. I've not seen it... I do have WinXP SP2 sandboxed on 2 Macs (via Virtual PC 7). Instead of those ugly squares with totally unappealing icons, I might have at least suggested the red, yellow green from their logo, keeping the flag shapes. On 27/09/10 12:58 PM, Dennis B.

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-27 Thread Dennis B. Swaney
On 27/09/10 10:09PDT, Bill Chapman wrote: Do you mean Win7. I've not seen it... I do have WinXP SP2 sandboxed on 2 Macs (via Virtual PC 7). Instead of those ugly squares with totally unappealing icons, I might have at least suggested the red, yellow green from their logo, keeping the flag

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-27 Thread Bill Chapman
I only need WinXP to check my site designs in IE6/7... I do that locally... I don't venture online with XP. There's no point. On 27/09/10 2:11 PM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: On 27/09/10 10:09PDT, Bill Chapman wrote: Do you mean Win7. I've not seen it... I do have WinXP SP2 sandboxed on 2 Macs

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-27 Thread Walter Sheluk
On 10-09-27 9:46 AM, Joshua Juran wrote: I agree that the colors are aesthetically pleasing, but they don't function similarly to the traffic light on which they're presumably based. I am somewhat lost in this thread because my children have always referred to the Apple traffic lights. Kids

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-27 Thread Dennis B. Swaney
On 27/09/10 12:16PDT, Walter Sheluk wrote: I am somewhat lost in this thread because my children have always referred to the Apple traffic lights. Kids say the darn dist things as someone once said. What should we call them ? Technically from left to right they are called: Close button

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-27 Thread Bill Chapman
I didn't mean that it did, only that I have seen XP and not Win 7 On 27/09/10 2:50 PM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: On 27/09/10 11:15PDT, Bill Chapman wrote: I only need WinXP to check my site designs in IE6/7... I do that locally... I don't venture online with XP. There's no point. The

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-27 Thread Bill Chapman
Call them Apple's version of traffic lights... moving through windows is 'traffic'... right? Kids get the idea... adults want to nit-pick ; ) On 27/09/10 3:16 PM, Walter Sheluk wrote: On 10-09-27 9:46 AM, Joshua Juran wrote: I agree that the colors are aesthetically pleasing, but they don't

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-26 Thread Midnight rider
This is not a mistake, because i don't want to stick with the OS X theme for too long. the transition to OS X from OS 9 was a big deal for many people in terms of the UI, but people got over it as it is the way the next generation of Os's will look. -- You received this message because you are a

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-26 Thread Steven
I understand the need for the operating system elements to change over time, but, like the tab bar on the Safari 4 Beta, the vertical traffic lights are a mistake. They don't match any other part of the operating system, or any other operating system for that matter. Every other operating major

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-26 Thread Bill Chapman
The vertical traffic lights make sense... they keep the window from getting too wide On 26/09/10 1:48 PM, Steven wrote: I understand the need for the operating system elements to change over time, but, like the tab bar on the Safari 4 Beta, the vertical traffic lights are a mistake. They

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-26 Thread Steven
I'm not sure what you mean. If anything, vertical make the window slightly wider, since they go beside the application controls instead of above them. Steven On Sep 26, 2010, at 1:05 PM, Bill Chapman wrote: The vertical traffic lights make sense... they keep the window from getting too

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-26 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 26, 2010, at 12:01 PM, Midnight rider wrote: i don't get this If the vertical traffic lights are a fail... why did Apple include it anyways? Because, despite (apparently) common belief, Apple is not always right? I personally likes the 'above them menu' tabs in Safari 4 beta, but

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-26 Thread Midnight rider
You got it wrong. My phone is never the only computer i'll ever need. The more macs the better. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-25 Thread Walter Sheluk
On 10-09-24 7:58 AM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: I upgraded to iTunes 9.2.1. Excellent suggestion: could you please give the url for the download: i can't find it at apple. Tanks. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-25 Thread Steven
Right after I downloaded iTunes 10 I tried to replace the icon with the icon from iTunes 9 and it wouldn't work. I did some searching online and found an entire package of changes that brings back the horizontal close/minimize/maximize buttons, colored icons in the sidebar, original icon

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-25 Thread Tina K.
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:20:29 -0600, Walter Sheluk wrote: Is there a haxie to get rid of the nightymare UI in iTunes 10? There was a terminal solution posted at MacWorld a couple of days ago but that just made it a stark black and white UI. There are some modified iTunes.rsrc files floating

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-25 Thread Tina K.
/09/how-to-downgrade-itunes-10-to-itunes-9-2-1/ Recreate iTunes Library file: http://appldnld.apple.com/iTunes9/061-8725.20100722.Bhnyt/iTunes9.2.1.dmg Don't let this intimidate you, it's actually pretty straight forward. First you delete iTunes 10 files, install iTunes 9, and recreate

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-25 Thread Joshua Juran
'Downgrade' instructions: http://appletoolbox.com/2010/09/how-to-downgrade-itunes-10-to-itunes-9-2-1/ Recreate iTunes Library file: http://appldnld.apple.com/iTunes9/061-8725.20100722.Bhnyt/iTunes9.2.1.dmg The last link duplicates the first. Josh -- You received this message because you

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-25 Thread Tina K.
-8725.20100722.Bhnyt/iTunes9.2.1.dmg 'Downgrade' instructions: http://appletoolbox.com/2010/09/how-to-downgrade-itunes-10-to-itunes-9-2-1/ Recreate iTunes Library file: http://appldnld.apple.com/iTunes9/061-8725.20100722.Bhnyt/iTunes9.2.1.dmg The last link duplicates the first. Josh Thank you

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-25 Thread Ashgrove
On Sep 25, 5:13 pm, Tina K. pengu...@gmx.com wrote: Don't let this intimidate you, it's actually pretty straight forward. First you delete iTunes 10 files, install iTunes 9, and recreate the iTunes library which is simply a matter of importing the .xml file that you have moved to the desktop

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-25 Thread Tina K.
On 2010/09/25 20:00, Ashgrove wrote: On Sep 25, 5:13 pm, Tina K.pengu...@gmx.com wrote: Don't let this intimidate you, it's actually pretty straight forward. First you delete iTunes 10 files, install iTunes 9, and recreate the iTunes library which is simply a matter of importing the .xml

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-25 Thread Midnight rider
Does anyone dislike the new UI? I don't but this is the same way i felt about Aqua when it first took over the platinum theme weird and new... and the well known What is Apple up to this time? kinda feeling. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-25 Thread Steven
I really hate the look of iTunes 10, but there isn't really a new UI, just those odd vertical buttons and lack of color on the icons. I have a feeling that the vertical buttons will be a lot like the tab bar in the Safari 4 beta. Apple will try to justify it and back it for a short time

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-24 Thread Walter Sheluk
Is there a haxie to get rid of the nightymare UI in iTunes 10? There was a terminal solution posted at MacWorld a couple of days ago but that just made it a stark black and white UI. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-24 Thread Dennis B. Swaney
On 22/09/10 19:20PDT, Walter Sheluk wrote: Is there a haxie to get rid of the nightymare UI in iTunes 10? There was a terminal solution posted at MacWorld a couple of days ago but that just made it a stark black and white UI. I upgraded to iTunes 9.2.1. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-24 Thread Midnight rider
iTunes 10 works for me, but the thing that you guys call a Nightmare UI is the same way people felt about switching over to OS X on the days of classic for their UI. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-24 Thread Bill Chapman
I used to include Classic with Tiger/Panther... but it was butt-ugly on my OS X machines. On 24/09/10 7:00 PM, Midnight rider wrote: iTunes 10 works for me, but the thing that you guys call a Nightmare UI is the same way people felt about switching over to OS X on the days of classic

Re: ITunes 10

2010-09-24 Thread Midnight rider
I started using macs since the days os OS 7.1, and the UI switch to OS X was fairly easy for me, in fact i accepted the new UI, and am glad that Aqua cam around. Now, Aqua has been twisted around with leopard and SL so much, i wouldn't even call it aqua any more. I might as well call it graphite.