Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-27 Thread Joshua Juran
On Sep 26, 2010, at 5:45 PM, Jack Suggs wrote: If there was a Like button for all the above, I'd click it. I have no idea what you're referring to, since you didn't quote anything above. Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-27 Thread Joshua Juran
On Sep 26, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Steven wrote: I only used the term imaginary as a sort of insult to digital files. Yes, they may technically exist, but only in the same way that a song on the radio exists, not in an immediately available physical form (I can't very well remove my hard disk

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-27 Thread Joshua Juran
On Sep 26, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Tina K. wrote: The issue I have with digital files is that regardless of the media you store them on, be it a HDD or flash drive, both of which are subject to magnetic damage; or writable optical media, which seem to degrade simply by existing; they are subject

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-27 Thread Malcolm O'Brien
I'd rather have the ability to make lossless backups of my photos They likely come out of the camera lossy (jpg). -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-27 Thread Bill Chapman
Store them as PNG (.png). Lossless On 27/09/10 10:43 AM, Malcolm O'Brien wrote: I'd rather have the ability to make lossless backups of my photos They likely come out of the camera lossy (jpg). -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-27 Thread Tina K.
On 2010/09/26 19:11, Matt Rhinesmith wrote: Flash drives aren't susceptible to magnetic damage... While that may be correct, they are subject to spontaneous catastrophic failure which in the end is even worse. Factory pressed optical disks don't spontaneously fail. Tina -- You received

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-27 Thread Malcolm O'Brien
Store them as PNG (.png). Lossless Your camera will do that? What's the brand? -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-27 Thread Joshua Juran
On Sep 27, 2010, at 7:43 AM, Malcolm O'Brien wrote: I'd rather have the ability to make lossless backups of my photos They likely come out of the camera lossy (jpg). That only happens once. There's no *generational* loss as with analog copies. Josh -- You received this message

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-27 Thread Bill Chapman
I don't have a digital camera... I meant once you download onto your computer, save them as png in Preview or Photoshop, or whatever. PNG retains pixel info, and have also replaced GIF format On 27/09/10 11:11 AM, Malcolm O'Brien wrote: Store them as PNG (.png). Lossless Your camera will

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-27 Thread Bill Chapman
I've always understood that jpegs continually lose pixels every time you save them. On 27/09/10 11:13 AM, Joshua Juran wrote: On Sep 27, 2010, at 7:43 AM, Malcolm O'Brien wrote: I'd rather have the ability to make lossless backups of my photos They likely come out of the camera lossy

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-27 Thread Elliott Price
Any *real* camera will save images as RAW... :) No loss of anything there. If you save JPG's with no compression, you don't loose virtually no pixel data. My camera saves uncompressed JPG's, and when I save them from Photoshop, I save them at maximum quality, which is basically uncompressed.

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-26 Thread Tina K.
On 2010/09/25 21:24, Steven wrote: eventually Blu-Ray will eclipse DVD just like DVD eclipsed VHS I would tend to agree with that statement but Steve Jobs thinks that it will be online sales and rentals that will become the new standard. Tina -- You received this message because you are a

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-26 Thread Steven
On Sep 26, 2010, at 1:23 AM, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/09/25 21:24, Steven wrote: eventually Blu-Ray will eclipse DVD just like DVD eclipsed VHS I would tend to agree with that statement but Steve Jobs thinks that it will be online sales and rentals that will become the new standard.

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-26 Thread Ashgrove
On Sep 26, 12:02 am, Midnight rider coolmar...@gmail.com wrote: Also, don't go through with USB. USB IS SLOW. it lags even on USB 3.0. To save time, get firewire to make sure the speeds are good. I made this mistake by buying a USB powered external DVD drive to install leopard on my Power

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-26 Thread Ashgrove
On Sep 26, 12:44 am, Joshua Juran jju...@gmail.com wrote: The only problem is the iMac is running Tiger, for which VLC (at   least) has dropped support.  Perhaps it's time to install a newer OS X. [2] [2] I hesitate to say 'upgrade', since I consider differently code- named OS X versions to

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-26 Thread Steven
While that is true, and USB has a higher peak speed (480mbps vs 400mbps for FireWire 400), FireWire sustains much higher speeds than USB 2.0, which varies, so it is better for video editing and other speed and large storage related tasks (like, I presume, Blu-Ray). I only buy FireWire hard

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-26 Thread Steven
On Sep 26, 2010, at 1:23 AM, Tina K. wrote: I would tend to agree with that statement but Steve Jobs thinks that it will be online sales and rentals that will become the new standard. Tina That really annoys me, since I don't consider digital files to be actual things, just imaginary

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-26 Thread Ashgrove
On Sep 26, 2:19 pm, Steven macintosh.awes...@gmail.com wrote: While that is true, and USB has a higher peak speed (480mbps vs 400mbps for FireWire 400), FireWire sustains much higher speeds than USB 2.0, which varies, so it is better for video editing and other speed and large storage

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-26 Thread Steven
On Sep 26, 2010, at 2:22 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: They may be not immediately tangible, but you can, with the aid of an electron microscope, visualize a file on a hard disk platter; digital files are a physical manifestation of phenomena on the hard drive platter. I only used the term

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-26 Thread Tina K.
The issue I have with digital files is that regardless of the media you store them on, be it a HDD or flash drive, both of which are subject to magnetic damage; or writable optical media, which seem to degrade simply by existing; they are subject to deterioration over time. A bit gets flipped

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-26 Thread Walter Sheluk
On 10-09-26 12:19 PM, Steven wrote: because I just prefer FireWire and I occasionally work with Final Cut. i require FW's drives to capture studio audio recordings in real live time ( i'm not talking about making a CD copy in iTunes ) -- You received this message because you are a member of

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-26 Thread Jay Smith
Yes, but steve jobs seems to think everyone has capable Internet provision for streaming and quickly downloading movie files. It simply isn't the case. Then there are those who simply aren't satisfied having a non physical library. On a separate note, I am quite disapointed that my 27 quad

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-26 Thread Charles Lenington
On 9/26/10 1:23 AM, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/09/25 21:24, Steven wrote: eventually Blu-Ray will eclipse DVD just like DVD eclipsed VHS I would tend to agree with that statement but Steve Jobs thinks that it will be online sales and rentals that will become the new standard. Tina He may

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-26 Thread Matt Rhinesmith
On Sep 26, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Tina K. wrote: The issue I have with digital files is that regardless of the media you store them on, be it a HDD or flash drive, both of which are subject to magnetic damage; Flash drives aren't susceptible to magnetic damage... Matt Rhinesmith Sent from my

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-26 Thread ALLNIGHTVI
Dear Penguirl: They no longer Burn CDs or DVD's on computer media for the home. It the old days, the original burners actually burned a small section of the CD/DVD and the mark was permanent. Either the section had a small hole burned in it or it didn't. Newer CD/DVD burners now

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-25 Thread Jay Smith
Do you not fancy opening it up and fixing this steven? I'd love too myself. Though, you may not share my need to open things, lol Sent from my iPhone On 25 Sep 2010, at 01:36, Steven macintosh.awes...@gmail.com wrote: I have this exact model (except mine only has 1gb of RAM), and it works

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-25 Thread Ashgrove
Kevin, This is the first generation Core 2 Duo iMac. I have the 17 model. They are great machines. They are prone to display/video card problems, which apparently has been silently acknowledged by Apple, since mine broke last year and was repaired for free by them (that was before I got it but

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-25 Thread Midnight rider
my friend has an i7 iMac, and they look about as good as those core 2 duo imacs that came out before. Well anyways, go for it! It's a nice machine, and it'll last you years. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs.

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-25 Thread Steven
I love opening things that I know I can put back together easily (though I think that's how I broke the floppy drive on my PowerBook 145b), but I use this iMac as my main workhorse, and will probably do so for at least another year, so I can't really risk anything going wrong. The most I have

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-25 Thread Jay Smith
Sorry, so Santa rose is the code name? For the current iMacs? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-25 Thread Jay Smith
Yes, I messed up a couple of iPods myself. They were broken anyway. Unreliable, 12 month shelf life things anyway. I am a computer engineer myself, so i delight in dismantling things, especially apple products, well, when their warranty has has run out at least Sent from my iPhone On 25 Sep

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-25 Thread Joshua Juran
On Sep 25, 2010, at 10:34 AM, Ashgrove wrote: This is the first generation Core 2 Duo iMac. I have the 17 model. They are great machines. They are prone to display/video card problems, which apparently has been silently acknowledged by Apple, since mine broke last year and was repaired for free

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-25 Thread Midnight rider
You know,,, not all iPods are 12 month shelf life devices. I have had an iPod nano 3G since June 18, 2008 and it has been working fine for me ever since. I bought the 8GB model, black, and it has minimal amount of scratches. for sturdiness, get a 3G iPod nano. features, iPod touch. the screens on

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-25 Thread Ashgrove
On Sep 25, 7:57 pm, Joshua Juran jju...@gmail.com wrote: Should I pay the Apple Store to replace the dead optical drive with   the same model, pay a third party to install a better device, buy an   external DVD drive (that doesn't require opening the iMac), or just   punt the whole issue and

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-25 Thread Steven
My third generation iPod was more like a 5 month shelf life, but that was mainly because I kept it in the pocket of a baggy coat and regularly (accidentally, of course) slammed it in the car door (which is in turn why I had to replace the hard drive). I learned my lesson, though, and three

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-25 Thread Steven
I'm considering getting a Blu-Ray drive when I finally get fed up with my SuperDrive and can afford to do something about it. The cheapest route would of course be an external DVD drive, but when I took my PowerBook G4 in for some repairs they said that they charge a standard price for repairs

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-25 Thread Midnight rider
Blu ray drives aren't all that expensive if you know where to look. I picked up myself a sweet drive back in best buy for only $170, and it is made by HP: It has DVD reading/burning, CD Reading Burning up to 64x, DVD dual layer burning/reading, DVD quad layer reading/burning, Lightscribe laser

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-25 Thread Joshua Juran
On Sep 25, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Steven wrote: I'm considering getting a Blu-Ray drive when I finally get fed up with my SuperDrive and can afford to do something about it. The cheapest route would of course be an external DVD drive, but when I took my PowerBook G4 in for some repairs they

Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-24 Thread Kevin
I considering buying one of these model iMacs for my wife to use. She does, web surfing, email, iTunes and a little bit of iPhoto. I know that some of the iMacs around this era had a bulging/burst capacitor issue. Does anyone know if that was a problem with this version iMac? Are there any

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-24 Thread Steven
I have this exact model (except mine only has 1gb of RAM), and it works great. The only problem I have had with it is that the slot loading CD drive became misaligned, causing the disc to jam against the inside of the case unless I guide it out with an index card. Judging by the reactions of

Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac

2010-09-24 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 24, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Kevin wrote: I know that some of the iMacs around this era had a bulging/burst capacitor issue. Does anyone know if that was a problem with this version iMac? No, the Capacitors of Death were pretty much confined to the G5 iMacs; the Core 2 Duo iMacs are