Re: [Interest] Interest Digest, Vol 137, Issue 4

2023-02-09 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
loop" so you can do what you wish when you wish in any thread you wish. Where you will be hamstrung by Qt again (assuming you need it) is screen updates. Painting can only occur in the main event loop which only exists in the main thread. Hope this helps. At least I responded when eve

Re: [Interest] MSVC not-the-latest: are you using it? why?

2023-02-09 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
big names. God was able to create the world in seven days because she didn't have an installed base. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net http://www.johnsmith-book.com http://www.logikalblog.com http://www.

Re: [Interest] Is 6.x finally there ??

2022-10-27 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
On 10/27/22 03:09, Volker Hilsheimer wrote: Yo Roland, What makes you think that Qt 6 has no clipboard support? You obviously didn’t bother with opening the referenced JIRA ticket. What Bill pointed out as missing are the platform-specific classes that facilitate the integration of platform

Re: [Interest] Interest Digest, Vol 133, Issue 12

2022-10-27 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
%20(Reported%2C%20%22Need%20More%20Info%22%2C%20Open%2C%20%22In%20Progress%22%2C%20Reopened) when I select those status value and see a count north of 30K. When I limit it to Open and ReOpened I see a count north of 8K https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTWEBSITE-1075?jql=status%20in%20(Open%2C

Re: [Interest] Interest Digest, Vol 133, Issue 11

2022-10-26 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
dead distribution method. https://snapcraft.io/ I don't do Windows or Mac development, but you will have similar situations building with -system-sqlite and distributing. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteex

Re: [Interest] Is 6.x finally there ??

2022-10-26 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
s Qt 5.x custom spins but no new development will occur using Qt. That has been the feedback from one and all. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net http://www.johnsmith-book.com http://www

Re: [Interest] Small survey on necessary Qt Container size

2022-09-28 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
o periscope over the cursor, and force bidirectional in, but they shouldn't have to in 2022. The underlying code needs to also realize that ROWID is no longer a table unique number. It is __segment__ unique. I forget the official name for the groups of segments,

Re: [Interest] ssue with QFutureWatcher cancel() delay

2022-09-24 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
job (not perfect, but better) cleaning up behind a hard kill of an actual stand-a-lone PID created via spawn/exec. I know that's not what you want to hear, but that's where you are at. No good way to kill a Glutton thread. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (6

Re: [Interest] Qt: Quick: Failed to create OpenGL context

2022-09-21 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
the backend. Leave the postinst script and test executables lying around. If they upgrade/change video cards the current working backend may no longer work. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net http://www.

Re: [Interest] Small survey on necessary Qt Container size

2022-09-07 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
? That determines what the capabilities need to be. Given the licensing, it will have to be an incredibly obscure niche with deep pockets. Nothing else will pay those fees. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteex

Re: [Interest] Small survey on necessary Qt Container size

2022-09-06 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
house. You are seeing the same thing with your stock brokers. Fidelity and many others only keep 2-3 years of transactions on-line. If you need older transactions for an audit or whatever, you have to submit a report request to be run against the data warehouse. -- Roland Hughes, President L

Re: [Interest] Deploying 5.15.2 on Ubuntu 20.04, (Qt5OpenGL.so)

2022-08-23 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
a base with Qt sans WebEngine stuff already. To help with the more immediate problem, have one of the users open a terminal cd directory-with-broken-app ldd my-broken-app The problem is lower in this food chain, but you want to see where the main executable is loading things from. Output will look

Re: [Interest] Official linuxdeployqt ?

2022-08-10 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
mp; paste error. [cut...] The really deep pockets have spoken. Flathub is where we are going. Even Apple and Microsoft are on the list of members. https://www.cncf.io/about/members/ That time I posted again for real. https://winaero.com/flatpak-coming-wsl-windows-10/ W

Re: [Interest] Official linuxdeployqt ?

2022-08-09 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
Well, It's certainly not "optimal" and I don't believe it should have a high priority. It will lead to many horrible hacks for people compiling 32-bit on a 64-bit machine. Roland On 8/9/22 10:17, Alexander Dyagilev wrote: I think that an optimal solution (and a pretty

Re: [Interest] Official linuxdeployqt ?

2022-08-09 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
elf and those I speak with are all going. We can automatically be included in distros that will give us access to millions of desktops. They don't have to stumble into us on the Web. --- Any linuxdeployqt is still going to have significant issues with all of thos

Re: [Interest] Official linuxdeployqt ?

2022-08-08 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
tpak. All of the non-embedded stuff I have is currently using traditional Debian and RPM packaging. I am moving everything that can be moved to Flatpak using the Freedesktop SDK. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com htt

Re: [Interest] QML: non scaled image strange issue under Linux

2022-07-26 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
definitely a bug... But it seems I'm too lazy to file one yet bug report... On 7/23/2022 1:50 PM, Roland Hughes via Interest wrote: On 7/23/22 05:00, Alexander Dyagilev wrote: I'm generating image (QR code) using QML image provider. Show it using Image control using actual size (i.e.

Re: [Interest] QML: non scaled image strange issue under Linux

2022-07-23 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
cute the scale logic even when the scale factor is 100%. I suggest you file a bug which will probably be reclassified as a "performance enhancement request" to skip image scaling when the scale factor is 100% -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.th

Re: [Interest] Fwd: QWaylandCompositor question

2022-06-15 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
t configuration files to sus out what you need. You could choose to build one and step through with the debugger as it starts. Sorry, not a one & done answer, but this is a journey a person must go on. Wayland is being forced on us and it is not yet stable, at least on the desktop

Re: [Interest] Design question: providing loop status

2022-04-22 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
et_callback /// Set the push callback (for any type of button). void set_callback(const std::function &callback) { m_callback = callback; } -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.ne

Re: [Interest] Interest Digest, Vol 127, Issue 3

2022-04-04 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
se once we identified the problem. I don't remember the specifics of "why" it was causing crashes, just that it was. If the code base you are re-using is from that era, that team took a different approach to solving the problem. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solut

Re: [Interest] Is there a good alternative to the QML, Controls in Qt6 for native desktop integration purposes?

2022-02-27 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
and your knowledge will be invalid. One can get more consistent answers from a roulette wheel. No, "talk to your sales rep" is not an answer. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net http://www

Re: [Interest] Is there a good alternative to the QML, Controls in Qt6 for native desktop integration purposes?

2022-02-25 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
Nyall's comment = Now only a very tiny portion of our users receive the fixes (specifically, those using recent Fedora releases, as Fedora have moved away from Qt 5 upstream packages to instead following the KDE maintained 5.15 fork). Our Windows, Mac and debian based users will likely never

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-10-05 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
pen the entire company is working on /that one bug/ from every possible angle until it is closed. Just how many other patient killers are in the bug database ranked P3 and below? https://www.bcsp.org/csp https://www.isc2.org/Certifications/CSSLP# https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certified_

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-10-03 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
On 10/2/21 7:47 PM, Ulf Hermann wrote: I might be wrong with those steps because I don't know the approval process. Yet, I'm sure there is some pragmatic way to produce what you want. You may want to share your ideas on what it actually takes. There is not a pragmatic way within what Qt has. To

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-10-02 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
On 10/1/2021 10:52 AM, Ulf Hermann wrote: I doubt you get a paid-for 5.15 LTS under an Open Source licence, so no, this is not comparable a̲t̲ ̲a̲l̲l̲. I did not compare to anything. Roland listed a number of open source projects with LTS versions_after_ I wrote this. If you want to discuss

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-10-02 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
vers they publicly release for Windows 10 and other "current" platforms. The developers tend to put more effort into drivers that don't have an auto-push method of distribution. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 https://theminimumyouneedtoknow.com htt

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-10-01 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
On 9/30/21 9:22 AM, Volker Hilsheimer wrote: On 30 Sep 2021, at 15:59, Roland Hughes via Interest wrote: On 9/30/21 5:00 AM, interest-requ...@qt-project.org wrote: On Wednesday, 29 September 2021 07:40:11 PDT Rui Oliveira wrote: "Both *Windows 7 or 8.x* version support will n

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-09-30 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
e running on pre-16.04 Ubuntu systems as well although they have easier solutions. Jumping to Fox will be a re-write for them and they will have to build their own XP libraries unless the faq is out of date. http://fox-toolkit.org/faq.html Given that it can build on Windows 2000 and current Li

Re: [Interest] Qt 5.15 LTS vs Qt 6.2 LTS

2021-09-30 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
Maintenance Mode support all the way back to XP. https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home/current/solutions/v126160909 It was that or go out of business. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteex

Re: [Interest] List traffic disappearing?

2021-09-14 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
allows race/abend bugs to remain in their bug database for years. If you have further questions, please just email me off-list. I don't really check the interest emails much as none of my clients are using Qt anymore. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1

Re: [Interest] List traffic disappearing?

2021-09-13 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
kill their loved one in the right medical device, has been known to exist for over N-years and the tool was used anyway. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net http://www.johns

[Interest] L Word

2021-04-28 Thread Roland Hughes via Interest
ke amends, here, publicly, and go away for a while whether it is imposed or not. Failing that I will have to pursue this via other avenues. My apologies to everyone else for them having to read this. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimu

Re: [Interest] Guide me through the Qt offerings for GUIs

2021-04-25 Thread Roland Hughes
have to write one of those services. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net http://www.johnsmith-book.com http://www.logikalblog.com http://www.interestingauthors.com/blog __

[Interest] [SPAM] Re: Guide me through the Qt offerings for GUIs

2021-04-25 Thread Roland Hughes
dropped cold boot to under 5 minutes. (I want to say 3.) Still too long, but night and day different. On the desktop we didn't notice any real difference. Creating objects for all of the XML inside of the SVG was a lot of dynamic memory allocation in tiny units. -- Roland Hughes, Preside

Re: [Interest] Guide me through the Qt offerings for GUIs

2021-04-23 Thread Roland Hughes
dynamic memory because the hardware group is trimming power consumption every place they can. It's no biggie. One just has to design software differently. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 https://theminimumyouneedtoknow.com https://infiniteexposure.net https://lesedi.

Re: [Interest] Guide me through the Qt offerings for GUIs

2021-04-22 Thread Roland Hughes
l never get away from CICS. When you try to get away from it you create tragedy. If it helps, think about it this way: A happy successful robust application has a whole lot of processes that simply don't care. Like a musician playing a song in a room all by themselves, they don't

Re: [Interest] Guide me through the Qt offerings for GUIs

2021-04-22 Thread Roland Hughes
hat subset of the embedded world which splurges for GPU. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net http://www.johnsmith-book.com http://www.logikalblog.com http://www.interestingauthors.com/b

Re: [Interest] Guide me through the Qt offerings for GUIs

2021-04-22 Thread Roland Hughes
0/55072233-d58ce380-508a-11e9-9e6a-b6b80fc83dd6.png?raw=true <https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/11473810/55072233-d58ce380-508a-11e9-9e6a-b6b80fc83dd6.png?raw=true> if you dont know how, doesnt meant is not possible On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 11:00 AM Roland Hughes mailto:rol...@logi

Re: [Interest] Guide me through the Qt offerings for GUIs

2021-04-22 Thread Roland Hughes
so cool and was 100% functional. QML can't hold a candle to it. Those bricks can be re-arranged and re-sized without any use of layouts. When you gotta bring the Uber Cool you gotta use widgets. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 https://theminimumyouneedtoknow.

Re: [Interest] Guide me through the Qt offerings for GUIs

2021-04-22 Thread Roland Hughes
hat should be tested. At one place somewhere they mentioned building with OpenWatcom but don't list it in other places. The one thing that project definitely needs is a consistent location. Stuff is scattered all over between SourceForge and several other sites. -- Roland Hughes,

Re: [Interest] Guide me through the Qt offerings for GUIs

2021-04-22 Thread Roland Hughes
/wordpress/uncategorized/so-you-cant-get-your-qt-models-to-work-with-qml/ -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 https://theminimumyouneedtoknow.com https://infiniteexposure.net https://lesedi.us https://johnsmith-book.com https://logikalblog.com https://interestingauthors.com/blog

Re: [Interest] Guide me through the Qt offerings for GUIs

2021-04-21 Thread Roland Hughes
f native binary without having to saddle an application with 2 VMs. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 https://theminimumyouneedtoknow.com https://infiniteexposure.net https://lesedi.us https://johnsmith-book.com https://logikalblog.com https://interestinga

Re: [Interest] Guide me through the Qt offerings for GUIs

2021-04-21 Thread Roland Hughes
On 4/21/2021 7:17 AM, Vlad Stelmahovsky wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 1:50 PM Roland Hughes mailto:rol...@logikalsolutions.com>> wrote: On 4/21/2021 6:36 AM, Vlad Stelmahovsky wrote: Using Electron has nothing to do with licensing issues. The issue is common progr

Re: [Interest] Guide me through the Qt offerings for GUIs

2021-04-21 Thread Roland Hughes
On 4/20/2021 4:35 PM, Alexey Rusakov wrote: Am I the only one to feel that Roland monopolises the mailing list again, after a couple of years? I'm sorry you feel that way. You can join the growing chorus to have Giuseppe D'Angelo placed on 18 month forced hibernation due to rep

Re: [Interest] Guide me through the Qt offerings for GUIs

2021-04-21 Thread Roland Hughes
all from a researcher/doctor touting the Johns Hopkins credentials wanting me to work on a post-op patient monitor they were going to hook directly to a Windows 10 desktop sans an intervening control unit. No, I did not take the gig. On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 1:30 PM Roland Hughes

Re: [Interest] Guide me through the Qt offerings for GUIs

2021-04-21 Thread Roland Hughes
er libraries given the licensing issues. Automotive is a tiny subset of where Qt is historically used. On 4/21/2021 6:26 AM, Vlad Stelmahovsky wrote: With these numbers are you trying to convince me that QML is not used in embedded? or what? On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 1:21 PM Roland Hughe

Re: [Interest] Guide me through the Qt offerings for GUIs

2021-04-21 Thread Roland Hughes
On 4/21/2021 12:14 AM, Vlad Stelmahovsky wrote: On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 3:13 PM Roland Hughes mailto:rol...@logikalsolutions.com>> wrote: On 4/20/2021 5:00 AM, Giuseppe D'Angelo wrote: On 18/04/2021 14:50, Roland Hughes wrote: It's completely true. That ti

Re: [Interest] Guide me through the Qt offerings for GUIs

2021-04-20 Thread Roland Hughes
atepart as Mathew prefers) has to be using more than just regular expressions because it actually highlighted the initializer list correctly. Thanks for participating in the conversation. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 https://theminimumyouneedtoknow.com https://i

Re: [Interest] Interest Digest, Vol 115, Issue 17

2021-04-20 Thread Roland Hughes
On 4/20/2021 4:35 PM, Giuseppe D'Angelo wrote: On 20/04/2021 15:10, Roland Hughes wrote: On 4/20/2021 5:00 AM, Giuseppe D'Angelo wrote: On 18/04/2021 14:50, Roland Hughes wrote: I guess QML is more present in embedded? Or maybe some entreprise stuff we don't know about...

Re: [Interest] Guide me through the Qt offerings for GUIs

2021-04-20 Thread Roland Hughes
On 4/20/2021 3:53 PM, Matthew Woehlke wrote: TL;DR: We agree that QPlainTextEdit is "bad" (see below for definition of "bad"). We (apparently) disagree on what's required to correctly parse a file for syntax highlighting. On 20/04/2021 15.03, Roland Hughes wrote: On

Re: [Interest] Guide me through the Qt offerings for GUIs

2021-04-20 Thread Roland Hughes
On 4/20/21 9:18 AM, Matthew Woehlke wrote: On 20/04/2021 09.10, Roland Hughes wrote: Close on the heels of that "Why are they highlighting the whole thing?" when you only need the currently visible lines and possibly a screen up/down. Open up a 10,000 line source file in edi

Re: [Interest] Guide me through the Qt offerings for GUIs

2021-04-20 Thread Roland Hughes
On 4/20/2021 5:00 AM, Giuseppe D'Angelo wrote: On 18/04/2021 14:50, Roland Hughes wrote: I guess QML is more present in embedded? Or maybe some entreprise stuff we don't know about... Just phones and John Deere. This is false, as a quick walk through the customer showcase on TQC

Re: [Interest] Guide me through the Qt offerings for GUIs

2021-04-18 Thread Roland Hughes
on then swats the loader with a "load that" command. If they did that, we can paint from anywhere. Instead of low level manipulation of the screen(s) the screens become a service. Applications just communicate with the service. -- Roland Hughes, President Logik

Re: [Interest] Guide me through the Qt offerings for GUIs

2021-04-17 Thread Roland Hughes
led that off it would theoretically mean every one of your frequency graphs could be its own thread in its own GPU doing its own thing. Your application would have the wholesome built-in look of Widgets and your graphics would be doing their own thing in their own space. -- Roland Hughes, Pr

Re: [Interest] the path forward (or is it "how the things, look"?)

2021-04-12 Thread Roland Hughes
On 4/12/21 10:47 AM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: On Mon, 12 Apr 2021, Roland Hughes wrote: Again, ripping XCB out won't be a free effort even if the new library is free as in beer, but the current situation with XCB is kind of at the heart of everything when one steps back for a few days.

Re: [Interest] Send Data to JavaScript

2021-04-12 Thread Roland Hughes
while (i.hasNext()) { i.next(); vmap.insert(i.key(), i.value()); } QJsonDocument json = QJsonDocument::fromVariant(vmap); | -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net http://www.johnsmith-book.com http://www.logik

Re: [Interest] the path forward - that 7 year thing - was, , , , willy-nilly

2021-04-12 Thread Roland Hughes
und you can find off-lease 27 inch 1920xwhatever resolution monitors for around $80. As the price on them dropped they became corporate standards. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net http://www.

Re: [Interest] the path forward (or is it "how the things, look"?)

2021-04-12 Thread Roland Hughes
On 4/12/21 5:14 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: Roland is asking we don't, but it's simply not an option for the Open Source project. So we have two choices: It is an option. Notably not a pleasant one. Please read previous message discussing Abstraction and "Naperville divor

Re: [Interest] the path forward - that 7 year thing - was, , , willy-nilly

2021-04-12 Thread Roland Hughes
ition of RISK. "Unable to read data placing patient at risk" does meet the definition of RISK. Replacing with a lesser capability monitor does meet the definition of RISK because a 640x480 screen may not fit everything that was on the larger monitor. -- Roland Hughes, P

Re: [Interest] the path forward

2021-04-12 Thread Roland Hughes
-programming https://groups.google.com/g/my-qt-group -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net http://www.johnsmith-book.com http://www.logikalblog.com http://www.interestingauthors.com/blog

Re: [Interest] the path forward

2021-04-12 Thread Roland Hughes
know. It seems to have an awful lot of industry buy in. The point is, had the divorce from XCB been a real divorce, "the project" could have moved to a different underlying graphics package. There obviously is one on RHEL 6 that supports something close to 4K which is why all of th

Re: [Interest] the path forward - that 7 year thing - was, , , willy-nilly

2021-04-12 Thread Roland Hughes
ort for Scott's customer base. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net http://www.johnsmith-book.com http://www.logikalblog.com http://www.interestingauthors.com/blog __

Re: [Interest] the path forward - that 7 year thing - was, , willy-nilly

2021-04-01 Thread Roland Hughes
On 4/1/21 8:46 AM, Giuseppe D'Angelo wrote: On 01/04/2021 13:40, Roland Hughes wrote: We keep discussing the ability to upgrade Qt but not upgrade the rest of the OS. I understand that Qt is a central component of the UI, but it's no less critical than a lot of other components th

Re: [Interest] the path forward - that 7 year thing - was, , willy-nilly

2021-04-01 Thread Roland Hughes
On 4/1/21 8:36 AM, coroberti wrote: It looks like some business case for Roland. Sending many emails with the links to the owned/associated books thru the Qt mail lists and even openly advertising them - at least two cases just recently. Is it in line with the list policy? Kind regards

Re: [Interest] the path forward - that 7 year thing - was, , willy-nilly

2021-04-01 Thread Roland Hughes
writing trading floor systems for a major stock exchange. Volker PS: Roland, I was looking at your https://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com/agile_book.html page, and judging by this sentence, I think your review process is broken. You should probably ask for your money back from your profe

Re: [Interest] the path forward - that 7 year thing - was, willy-nilly

2021-04-01 Thread Roland Hughes
edge and the deep pocket medical device world that needs decades (plural) long support for an existing device. It needs to make a choice and officially rip the bandage off. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexpo

Re: [Interest] the path forward - that 7 year thing - was, , willy-nilly

2021-04-01 Thread Roland Hughes
On 4/1/21 12:40 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: On Sunday, 28 March 2021 04:54:56 PDT Roland Hughes wrote: What is "the process" criteria for new major version number? I'm curious. Why? Because I agree with Scott. Extinction of platforms needs to be a mandating force. The new major

Re: [Interest] QtQuick over Qt3D (Qt 5.15)

2021-03-31 Thread Roland Hughes
informative post! -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 (cell) http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net http://www.johnsmith-book.com ___ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org https://lists.qt

Re: [Interest] Software architecture style options

2021-03-31 Thread Roland Hughes
ned or that you can transfer as much data as you want during that connection. Never tie-up a resource you don't need to tie-up. Throwing hardware at it isn't solving an algorithm problem. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtokn

Re: [Interest] the path forward - that 7 year thing - was, , , willy-nilly

2021-03-30 Thread Roland Hughes
er can carry the weight of a proper code review. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net http://www.johnsmith-book.com http://www.logikalblog.com http://www.interestingauthors.com/blog

Re: [Interest] Interest Digest, Vol 114, Issue 39

2021-03-29 Thread Roland Hughes
though, the bug database has to be reasonably clean. Fixed, not just deleted. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net http://www.johnsmith-book.com http://www.logikalblog.com http://www.in

Re: [Interest] Interest Digest, Vol 114, Issue 43

2021-03-29 Thread Roland Hughes
On 3/28/21 7:30 PM, Giuseppe D'Angelo wrote: On 28/03/2021 20:39, Roland Hughes wrote: On 3/28/21 12:54 PM, Giuseppe D'Angelo wrote: Il 28/03/21 13:54, Roland Hughes ha scritto: There is documentation and Web pages that have replicated all over stating Qt 5 supports RHEL 6

[Interest] QtQuickCompiler and QtQuickControls2

2021-03-29 Thread Roland Winklmeier
ave a smaller deployment package (aka less files). Now I had the crazy idea. if there an option to also add the QtQuickControls2 *.qml files as resources and compile and link them with QtQuickCompiler? Is that something being considered already? Thanks, R

Re: [Interest] the path forward - that 7 year thing - was, , willy-nilly

2021-03-28 Thread Roland Hughes
t: Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 7:53 PM From: "Tuukka Turunen" To: "Jason H" Cc: "Roland Hughes" , "interest@qt-project.org" , "mike.jack...@bluequartz.net" Subject: Re: [Interest] the path forward - that 7 year thing - was, , willy-nilly Hi Jas

Re: [Interest] Interest Digest, Vol 114, Issue 42

2021-03-28 Thread Roland Hughes
On 3/28/21 12:54 PM, Giuseppe D'Angelo wrote: Il 28/03/21 13:54, Roland Hughes ha scritto: There is documentation and Web pages that have replicated all over stating Qt 5 supports RHEL 6. You made something that cannot be effectively erased untrue. The documentation in question s

Re: [Interest] the path forward - that 7 year thing - was, , willy-nilly

2021-03-28 Thread Roland Hughes
On 3/28/21 10:37 AM, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Chris Didn't follow the whole discussion, it's getting ridiculous... It's a lng way from ridiculous for companies choosing development tools for a device that will generate $50+Million over the next decade. -- Roland Hu

Re: [Interest] the path forward - that 7 year thing - was, willy-nilly

2021-03-28 Thread Roland Hughes
will likely be a sticking point for the company I am currently at. It's a sticking point at every medical device and industrial controls/SAFETY manufacturer I know about. The only projects still using Qt started long ago. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593

Re: [Interest] the path forward - that 7 year thing - was, willy-nilly

2021-03-28 Thread Roland Hughes
supported platform (or just the old list with a few platforms dropped) great angst and hardship would be avoided by the community. The supported platform lists and other marketing data replicate like a virus on the Internet. When they are only "partially correct" or "correct until

Re: [Interest] Interest Digest, Vol 114, Issue 41

2021-03-28 Thread Roland Hughes
On 3/28/21 5:00 AM, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On 27/3/21 9:04 pm, Roland Hughes wrote: If you __have__ to open the hood for a regulatory change, like the service password example I gave, most companies will try to freshen up the screen library to get better graphics and performance improvements

Re: [Interest] Interest Digest, Vol 114, Issue 39

2021-03-27 Thread Roland Hughes
tain about that. Qt 4 based systems of course and majority of customers are with Qt 5 currently. Each of these versions has changed API and we have tried our best to make the transition from Qt 5 to Qt 6 smooth. We are happy to get suggestions and feedback to it still and help in the transition

Re: [Interest] Interest Digest, Vol 114, Issue 38

2021-03-27 Thread Roland Hughes
on why you expect to use a brand new Qt with ancient compilers/OSs? -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 (cell) http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net http://www.johnsmith-book.com ___ Interest mai

Re: [Interest] the path forward - that 7 year thing - was, willy-nilly

2021-03-27 Thread Roland Hughes
ou to be considered licensed. As you say Roland, I have no idea how that could be possible for an existing contract, but going forward its not an uncommon licensing strategy. Scott -Original Message- From: Interest On Behalf Of Roland Hughes Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 14:33 To: interes

Re: [Interest] the path forward - that 7 year thing - was, willy-nilly

2021-03-26 Thread Roland Hughes
such a license. I don't agree with that, but that policy doesn't place QtC in legal jepordy because the license change only impacts new product. I'm not a lawyer, but if you bought a license, they (QtC) can't just arbitrarily end said license. Companies will be suing for return

Re: [Interest] the path forward - that 7 year thing - was, , willy-nilly

2021-03-26 Thread Roland Hughes
act they expect **actual** support, not bugs rotting in a bug database for 12+ years and definitely don't take kindly being told "it's too hard to fix" or "if we fix it then other things will break." If they pay for support on RHEL 6, you don't get to just drop

Re: [Interest] the path forward - that 7 year thing - was, willy-nilly

2021-03-26 Thread Roland Hughes
dn't look up the proper name. Am to this day floored that someone could be talked into spraying water on electrical equipment with something like a Terawatt of power going through it. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow

Re: [Interest] the path forward - that 7 year thing - was, willy-nilly

2021-03-26 Thread Roland Hughes
On 3/26/21 6:00 AM, Hamish Moffatt wrote: I really don't understand your arguments Roland. You say you need Qt support for 15 years, but you can't actually change one bit of your software without FDA approval, so presumably this means you aren't upgrading Qt anyway. Then after 15

Re: [Interest] the path forward - that 7 year thing - was, willy-nilly

2021-03-26 Thread Roland Hughes
esponsibility as medical device and SAFETY device manufacturers. The Wild Wild West days of IoT are coming to a hard close. It's not just the DDOS attacks. With connected refrigerators, hackers can turn the things off while people are at work (post pandemic) and spoil the majority

Re: [Interest] the path forward - that 7 year thing - was willy-nilly

2021-03-25 Thread Roland Hughes
oject.org wrote: On Wednesday, 24 March 2021 04:48:08 PDT Roland Hughes wrote: On 3/24/21 6:00 AM,interest-requ...@qt-project.org wrote: The exact opposite is the correct thing: - deprecation messages while compiling the source code are correct - messages to the mailing list are not sufficient N

Re: [Interest] The willy-nilly deletion of convenience,, methods

2021-03-24 Thread Roland Hughes
nce methods, however, was not FUD as far too many attempted to paint it. We have stumbled across inconvenient bodies in the woods. Vital family members were taken out and shot. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.

Re: [Interest] The willy-nilly deletion of convenience,, methods

2021-03-24 Thread Roland Hughes
bugs that a fix might introduce. You knowingly create 30 year old security issues and you diss your customers who have worked around theirs. :P Knowingly? That’s a bit much, even from you, Roland. Well, you are the one who said "so often we decied that a known, well-documented bug is prefe

Re: [Interest] The willy-nilly deletion of convenience,, methods

2021-03-24 Thread Roland Hughes
On 3/24/21 8:21 AM, Christian Gagneraud wrote: On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 at 01:22, Roland Hughes wrote: You forgot customer abandonment death of OpenSource LTS Qt 6 being useless QML needing to be ripped out. Is there life on Mars? Apparently Martians fart sulfur https://futurism.com

Re: [Interest] anti-Tivo - was The willy-nilly deletion of convenience, , methods

2021-03-24 Thread Roland Hughes
d if some case went to the Supreme Court and it delivered a unanimous decision that medical and safety devices were excluded from said licensing clauses, OpenSource or otherwise. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http:/

Re: [Interest] anti-Tivo - was The willy-nilly deletion of convenience, , methods

2021-03-24 Thread Roland Hughes
On 3/24/21 6:00 AM, Konrad Rosenbaum wrote: Hi, [this is getting a bit off-topic, but anyway...] On 23/03/2021 16:43, Roland Hughes wrote: The OpenSource community was blind, deaf, and dumb when they railed against Tivo locking down their devices and came up with all of these poisoned pills

Re: [Interest] The willy-nilly deletion of convenience,, methods

2021-03-24 Thread Roland Hughes
old QList implementation being gone * toContainer convenience methods removed * references to QHash entries no longer stable when the hash is mutated You forgot customer abandonment death of OpenSource LTS Qt 6 being useless QML needing to be ripped out. -- Roland Hughes, President Log

Re: [Interest] The willy-nilly deletion of convenience,, methods

2021-03-24 Thread Roland Hughes
lly-nilly nuking of things, both of these companies are going to have to go with CopperSpice or some other competitor. Qt 6 isn't usable and Qt 5 has no LTS unless they want to support the ex-wife in a manner she would like to become accustomed to. https://youtu.be/8mLQ_fyiWIs -- Roland H

Re: [Interest] The willy-nilly deletion of convenience,, methods

2021-03-24 Thread Roland Hughes
a COBOL green screen days, but touch screens subject to human whim, nah. You always end up with On Thursdays, when it rains and Fred is at the keyboard - do this logic. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infin

Re: [Interest] The willy-nilly deletion of convenience, methods

2021-03-23 Thread Roland Hughes
od that night. Your "rights" just needlessly took an innocent life. I can forgive a drunk driver easier than I can forgive you. No, I don't for a moment think QML is on that list :-). +1000 -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 https://t

Re: [Interest] Interest Digest, Vol 114, Issue 28

2021-03-23 Thread Roland Hughes
ill stuff all of the libraries into the DEB because you are straddling an ABI change as well as the systemd debacle https://wiki.ubuntu.com/systemd Fun times in Kiosk land. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 https://theminimumyouneedtoknow.com https://infiniteexposure.n

Re: [Interest] The willy-nilly deletion of convenience,, methods

2021-03-23 Thread Roland Hughes
g21/docs/papers/2020/p2131r0.html#removed Couldn't reach, but I only allow https anymore. http://www.cplusplus2017.info/removed-features-from-c17/ Ditto http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2018/p1319r0.html#removed Ditto -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (

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