Re: IPv6 modification suggestion

2012-10-19 Thread Arturo Servin
:04 PM To: ipv6@ietf.org; geop...@ietf.org Subject: RE: IPv6 modification suggestion Hello everyone, I had a brief look at GEOPRIV and I was very much impressed, There has been so much work done by this amazing group! At the same time, I would like to raise my concern regarding the http

RE: IPv6 modification suggestion

2012-10-19 Thread Manfredi, Albert E
-Original Message- From: Ammar Salih [mailto:ammar.sa...@auis.edu.iq] I remember few years ago when there were sanctions on Iraq, people used to download software updates through VSAT as their IP address shows Germany or Netherlands. But I'm suggesting to you that most people in

RE: IPv6 modification suggestion

2012-10-19 Thread Manfredi, Albert E
-Original Message- From: Ammar Salih [mailto:ammar.sa...@auis.edu.iq] It's not about supporting dictatorial regimes in isolating their citizens from the internet, Interesting how politics manages to enter into everything. It doesn't matter what the original intent might have been.

RE: IPv6 modification suggestion

2012-10-19 Thread Ammar Salih
[mailto:albert.e.manfr...@boeing.com] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:51 PM To: Ammar Salih; ipv6@ietf.org Subject: RE: IPv6 modification suggestion I don't see any of this as being remotely desirable, as part of IETF standards. If a router is to be installed in a repressive country, then it is certainly

RE: IPv6 modification suggestion

2012-10-19 Thread Ammar Salih
-Original Message- From: Ammar Salih [mailto:ammar.sa...@auis.edu.iq] But I'm suggesting to you that most people in the IETF consider that to be a feature, not a bug. If you wanted to take a consensus within the IETF, I would bet that most would not want to facilitate the efforts of

RE: IPv6 modification suggestion

2012-10-19 Thread Ammar Salih
-Original Message- From: Ammar Salih [mailto:ammar.sa...@auis.edu.iq] this is best done in a way that can be switched off by the users. At the application layer. I totally agree, but again, application layer will be limited to application servers. Network devices won't be able to

Re: IPv6 modification suggestion

2012-10-19 Thread George Mitchell
On 10/19/12 17:06, Ammar Salih wrote: [...] It's not about supporting dictatorial regimes in isolating their citizens from the internet, It's about implementing regulations, for example, certain regions does not allow VoIP calls over GSM/GPRS network. [...] You would probably have more success

Re: IPv6 modification suggestion

2012-10-19 Thread Jon Steen
Agreed! I know very well of customer ISPs and large independent enterprise network customers that one, would not accept this and two, since they have their own address space this would FAIL! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 19, 2012, at 8:32 PM, George Mitchell george+i...@m5p.com wrote: On

RE: IPv6 modification suggestion

2012-10-18 Thread Ammar Salih
...@auis.edu.iq] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:41 AM To: 'Bob Hinden' Cc: 'ipv6@ietf.org' Subject: RE: IPv6 modification suggestion Hello Bob, That said, I don't think it is a good idea to add GPS position to every IPv6 header. It would add a lot of overhead. It does not have to be in every IPv6

RE: IPv6 modification suggestion

2012-10-18 Thread Manfredi, Albert E
- From: ipv6-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ammar Salih Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 4:04 PM To: ipv6@ietf.org; geop...@ietf.org Subject: RE: IPv6 modification suggestion Hello everyone, I had a brief look at GEOPRIV and I was very much impressed, There has been so

Re: IPv6 modification suggestion

2012-10-18 Thread Oliver
On Thursday 18 October 2012 23:03:32 Ammar Salih wrote: Hello everyone, I had a brief look at GEOPRIV and I was very much impressed, There has been so much work done by this amazing group! At the same time, I would like to raise my concern regarding the http location request which will not

RE: IPv6 modification suggestion

2012-10-11 Thread Ammar Salih
...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 6:37 AM To: Ammar Salih Cc: Bob Hinden; ipv6@ietf.org Subject: Re: IPv6 modification suggestion Ammar, On Oct 10, 2012, at 7:52 AM, Ammar Salih wrote: Hello Dears, I would like to suggest adding GPS coordinates to IPv6 header, as you know the current way

IPv6 modification suggestion

2012-10-10 Thread Ammar Salih
Hello Dears, I would like to suggest adding GPS coordinates to IPv6 header, as you know the current way of determining the location of the IP address is through the IP registration, which is not very accurate as it depends on how the ISP registers it's IP subnets, which is normally done based

Re: IPv6 modification suggestion

2012-10-10 Thread George Mitchell
On 10/10/12 10:52, Ammar Salih wrote: Hello Dears, I would like to suggest adding GPS coordinates to IPv6 header, as you know the current way of determining the location of the IP address is through the IP registration, which is not very accurate as it depends on how the ISP registers it’s IP

Re: IPv6 modification suggestion

2012-10-10 Thread SM
Hi Ammar, At 07:52 10-10-2012, Ammar Salih wrote: I would like to suggest adding GPS coordinates to IPv6 header, as you know the current way of determining the location of the IP address is through the IP registration, which is not very accurate as it depends on how the ISP registers it's IP

Re: IPv6 modification suggestion

2012-10-10 Thread Bob Hinden
Ammar, On Oct 10, 2012, at 7:52 AM, Ammar Salih wrote: Hello Dears, I would like to suggest adding GPS coordinates to IPv6 header, as you know the current way of determining the location of the IP address is through the IP registration, which is not very accurate as it depends on how