Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2007-08-20 Thread Bob Hinden
Jinmei, to Proposed Standard. Please send substantive comments to the IPv6 mailing list. Editorial comments can be sent to the authors. This last call will end on July 12, 2007. Just out of curiosity, what's the current status (and planned next step) of this last call? It seems those who ha

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2007-08-19 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:20:22 -0700, ext Bob Hinden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Title : Deprecation of Type 0 Routing Headers in IPv6 > Author(s) : J. Abley, et al. > Filename: draft-ietf-ipv6-deprecate-rh0-01.txt > Pages : 9 > Date

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2007-07-07 Thread Joe Abley
On 6-Jul-2007, at 18:48, Christopher Morrow wrote: On 7/6/07, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I agree with Tony, this is pure hysteria, and this effort should be killed. yes. OK, so just to be clear, you're commenting on an earlier determination of consensus by the wg ch

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2007-07-06 Thread Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino
> > I agree with Tony, this is pure hysteria, and this effort should be killed. > > yes. in this case, it is good to be a bit of paranoid. the level of "paranoid"ness differs by person/standpoint. minor nit (i sound like jinmei): in RFC1883/2460 terminology "forw

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2007-07-06 Thread Christopher Morrow
On 7/6/07, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I agree with Tony, this is pure hysteria, and this effort should be killed. yes. thanks. -Chris IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Req

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2007-07-06 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
hristopher Morrow' > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: 'IPv6 WG' > Asunto: RE: IPv6 WG Last Call: > > Processing RH0 does not mean a host acts as a bounce point. If a node > decides to forward traffic it is a router. A host can properly process an > RH0 packet and

RE: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2007-07-06 Thread Tony Hain
> -Original Message- > From: Joe Abley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 6:55 AM > To: Christopher Morrow > Cc: IPv6 WG > Subject: Re: IPv6 WG Last Call: > > > On 6-Jul-2007, at 00:31, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > > I hesitate to

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2007-07-06 Thread Joe Abley
[Note that I am not replying out of a desire to engage in advocacy; you should read this more as editorial summaries of discussions that have already happened here when the questions you raised were asked before.] On 6-Jul-2007, at 10:46, Christopher Morrow wrote: I recognize that a host

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2007-07-06 Thread Christopher Morrow
On 7/6/07, Joe Abley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6-Jul-2007, at 00:31, Christopher Morrow wrote: > I hesitate to get rid or something because of this sole reason, I > think another answer would be to make paying attention to it just > optional for routing gear (or all things, honestly I reall

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2007-07-06 Thread Joe Abley
On 6-Jul-2007, at 00:31, Christopher Morrow wrote: I hesitate to get rid or something because of this sole reason, I think another answer would be to make paying attention to it just optional for routing gear (or all things, honestly I really only care about routing gear, and so does this draft

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2007-07-05 Thread Christopher Morrow
On 7/5/07, Vishwas Manral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Chris, I think the general view was that RH0, can be deprecated and a new more secure Routing Header can be used to get the functionality for required. So, sure... my fear is that lots of baked code/hardware today is going to do 'funny th

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2007-07-05 Thread Vishwas Manral
Hi Chris, I think the general view was that RH0, can be deprecated and a new more secure Routing Header can be used to get the functionality for required. I have put a draft for the checks required, in any such header. I intend to modify the draft to take care of introducing the new Routing Head

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2007-07-05 Thread Christopher Morrow
On 7/2/07, Rémi Denis-Courmont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Le jeudi 28 juin 2007, ext Bob Hinden a écrit : > This starts a two week IPv6 working group last call on advancing > > Title : Deprecation of Type 0 Routing Headers in IPv6 > Author(s) : J. Abley, et al. >

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2007-07-02 Thread Rémi Denis-Courmont
Le jeudi 28 juin 2007, ext Bob Hinden a écrit : > This starts a two week IPv6 working group last call on advancing > > Title : Deprecation of Type 0 Routing Headers in IPv6 > Author(s) : J. Abley, et al. > Filename: draft-ietf-ipv6-deprecate-rh0-01.txt >

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2007-07-02 Thread Tim Enos
I support the promotion of draft-ietf-ipv6-deprecate-rh0-01.txt to a Proposed Standard. IMO the editor and author(s) did an exceptionally good job in distilling our many and often somewhat divergent comments into the document we're considering. The above having been said, I'd like to share one

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2007-06-30 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Ship it. Brian IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2007-06-29 Thread briand
(Yes, it's my first post, but I thought it would be good to establish early on a track record of keeping on-topic and moving things in a positive direction...) I've read the draft, and the CanSecWest slides that it references. The network nodes I've worked on have deployed filters to prevent RH0 a

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2007-06-22 Thread Brian E Carpenter
If that's the only implication, I'm not sure it's worth adding. It's a bit worrisome for future interoperability (i.e. we shouldn't use this to add flags which will cause failures if they are ignored). Brian On 2007-06-22 16:02, Brian Haberman wrote: I would say that it if a node does not s

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2007-06-22 Thread Brian Haberman
I would say that it if a node does not support this new option, it will probably not support any new functionality using the extended bit field. I am rather neutral on whether adding such text is necessary. Regards, Brian Brian E Carpenter wrote: > Sorry to be slightly late... > > I note that

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2007-06-22 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Sorry to be slightly late... I note that 2461bis says that unrecognized options MUST be ignored. So that means that back-level implementations will ignore any flag bits sent with this new option. Does that have any side-effects that should be noted? Brian ---

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2007-06-06 Thread Suresh Krishnan
Hi Brian and Bob, I went through the latest version of this document. It is concise and well written. I would just like a new verification step to be added to the receiving algorithm in Section 4. This is the current text " Upon reception, a receiver processing NDP messages containing thi

RE: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2006-01-25 Thread Dave Thaler
ary 24, 2006 10:25 AM > To: IPv6 WG > Cc: Bob Hinden > Subject: Re: IPv6 WG Last Call: 13.txt> > > All, > The WG Last Call has passed on this with two substantive comments. > The following is the proposed changes to -13 to address them. Please > voice > your

RE: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2006-01-25 Thread Pashby, Ronald W CTR NSWCDD-B35
I agree with the changes too Ron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Malone Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 5:33 To: Brian Haberman Cc: Bob Hinden; IPv6 WG Subject: Re: IPv6 WG Last Call: On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 01:24:59PM -0500, Brian

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2006-01-25 Thread David Malone
On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 01:24:59PM -0500, Brian Haberman wrote: > The WG Last Call has passed on this with two substantive comments. > The following is the proposed changes to -13 to address them. Please > voice your support or disagreement with these changes. Looks good to me too.

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2006-01-24 Thread Pekka Savola
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Brian Haberman wrote: The WG Last Call has passed on this with two substantive comments. The following is the proposed changes to -13 to address them. Please voice your support or disagreement with these changes. I'm fine with these changes. 1. Length of appended MD5

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2006-01-24 Thread Brian Haberman
All, The WG Last Call has passed on this with two substantive comments. The following is the proposed changes to -13 to address them. Please voice your support or disagreement with these changes. 1. Length of appended MD5 hash value: OLD: Compute the MD5 hash [7] of the firs

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2005-11-01 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 12:37:20 -0400, > "Durand, Alain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I will disagree restricting the usage of this protocol to Link Local only. > This is an helpful > tool when managing networks. > Adding a warning statement in the security section to recommend filtering

RE: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2005-09-21 Thread Durand, Alain
. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Francis Dupont Sent: Wed 9/21/2005 2:50 AM To: Brian Haberman Cc: IPv6 WG Subject: Re: IPv6 WG Last Call: I would like to solicit opinions from the working group on the suggestions above. => I've always used the prot

RE: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2005-09-21 Thread Pashby, Ronald W CTR NSWCDD-B35
Subject: Re: IPv6 WG Last Call: In the light of the previous discussion I had with Ron on this subject, it occurs to me that it would address Ron's issue if responders joined both the old 32 bit and the Solicited Node related multicast addresses. Queriers that are worried about real time i

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2005-09-21 Thread Elwyn Davies
20, 2005 13:13 To: IPv6 WG Subject: Re: IPv6 WG Last Call: On Aug 1, 2005, at 2:08, Pekka Savola wrote: On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Bob Hinden wrote: This starts a two week IPv6 working group last call on advancing: Title : IPv6 Node Information Queries Author(s)

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2005-09-21 Thread Elwyn Davies
Elwyn Davies wrote: Some comments: <> s6.4.1: [wish list] It occurs to me with the mention of tunnels that a Qtype to find out about the addresses associated with (e.g.) configured tunnels would be useful (v6 in v4 for example). Brian asked me to propose some text for this. Here is my su

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2005-09-21 Thread Elwyn Davies
Brian Haberman wrote: On Aug 1, 2005, at 2:08, Pekka Savola wrote: <> Specifically, I'm very concerned about its use with global addresses, over the Internet. This has a potential to turn into a kitchen sink protocol, which can be used to do query anything at all from a random node. Thi

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2005-09-20 Thread Francis Dupont
I would like to solicit opinions from the working group on the suggestions above. => I've always used the protocol for destinations on the link so I have not operational issue with the restriction but for future usage I believe it should be better to restrict only to the site (the problem i

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2005-09-20 Thread Pekka Savola
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, Brian Haberman wrote: I would like to solicit opinions from the working group on the suggestions above. Specifically, the proposal would render existing implementations non-conformant to the spec. The primary goal of this work has been to document what the existing code bas

RE: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2005-09-20 Thread Pashby, Ronald W CTR NSWCDD-B35
PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Haberman Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 13:13 To: IPv6 WG Subject: Re: IPv6 WG Last Call: On Aug 1, 2005, at 2:08, Pekka Savola wrote: > On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Bob Hinden wrote: >> This starts a two week IPv6 working group last call on advancing:

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2005-09-20 Thread Brian Haberman
On Aug 1, 2005, at 2:08, Pekka Savola wrote: On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Bob Hinden wrote: This starts a two week IPv6 working group last call on advancing: Title : IPv6 Node Information Queries Author(s) : M. Crawford, B. Haberman Filename: draft-ietf-ip

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2005-07-31 Thread Pekka Savola
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Bob Hinden wrote: This starts a two week IPv6 working group last call on advancing: Title : IPv6 Node Information Queries Author(s) : M. Crawford, B. Haberman Filename: draft-ietf-ipngwg-icmp-name-lookups-12.txt Pages

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2005-07-20 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:39:55 -0700, > Bob Hinden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > This starts a two week IPv6 working group last call on advancing: > Title : IPv6 Node Information Queries > Author(s) : M. Crawford, B. Haberman > Filename: dr

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call: with PS

2005-07-19 Thread Elwyn Davies
PS s7: The IANA considerations should refer to the IANA considerations in 2463bis (draft-ietf-ipngwg-icmp-v3-07.txt). Some comments: Substantive: s4: Code 1 bullet point: The 'Supported Qtypes' query disappeared from the rest of the memo some time ago. s5: para 5: Is the intended effect of t

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call:

2005-07-19 Thread Elwyn Davies
Some comments: Substantive: s4: Code 1 bullet point: The 'Supported Qtypes' query disappeared from the rest of the memo some time ago. s5: para 5: Is the intended effect of the last sentence (defaulting to accepting all link-local multicast addresses that have been joined) that sending a NOO

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ipngwg-icmp-v3-04.txt

2004-08-04 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
A response to an old message, but I'm doing so since this was covered in today's meeting... > On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 11:34:26 -0700, > Fred Templin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > "As much of invoking packet as will fit without the >ICMPv6 packet exceeding the minimum IPv6 MTU" > (A vari

RE: IPv6 WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ipngwg-icmp-v3-04.txt

2004-07-02 Thread Mukesh . Gupta
D] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ext Fred Templin Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 11:34 AM To: Brian Haberman Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IPv6 WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ipngwg-icmp-v3-04.txt Brian, Sorry to come in so late with this, but I have a comment on this document. In several diagra

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ipngwg-icmp-v3-04.txt

2004-06-25 Thread Fred Templin
Brian, Sorry to come in so late with this, but I have a comment on this document. In several diagrams, we see the phrase: "As much of invoking packet as will fit without the ICMPv6 packet exceeding the minimum IPv6 MTU" (A variation of this phrase also appears in section 2.4 (c), accompanied by

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ipngwg-icmp-v3-04.txt

2004-06-19 Thread Derek Fawcus
On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 04:13:04PM +0300, Pekka Savola wrote: > On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Brian Haberman wrote: > > This document is being re-cycled at Draft Standard. The last call > > will end on May 18, 2004. Hmm - that's what I get for not monitoring the list all the time... One day late for last c

RE: IPv6 WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ipngwg-icmp-v3-04.txt

2004-06-07 Thread Mukesh . Gupta
Pekka, > Please consider my mail earlier today on IANA Considerations as part > of WG LC. That part needs a lot more baking, I fear. Bob has already replied to the other mail. So I would skip this part. > Further, my earlier issue still stands -- I'd prefer to remove an > unimplemented ICMP so

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ipngwg-icmp-v3-04.txt

2004-06-04 Thread Brian Haberman
All, The last call actually ends on June 18, 2004 not May 18. Regards, Brian Brian Haberman wrote: All, This starts a 2-week IPv6 Working Group Last Call on: Title : Internet Control Message Protocol (ICMPv6)for the Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6) Specificati

Re: IPv6 WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ipngwg-icmp-v3-04.txt

2004-06-04 Thread Pekka Savola
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Brian Haberman wrote: > This starts a 2-week IPv6 Working Group Last Call on: > > Title : Internet Control Message Protocol (ICMPv6)for the >Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6) Specification > Author(s) : A. Conta, S. Deering > Fil