RE: draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses: Document title

2013-08-13 Thread Christian Huitema
> Long Title: "Stateless Automatic IPv6 Address Configuration (SLAAC) with > Stable and Semantically Opaque Interface Identifiers" > > Short Title: "SLAAC with Stable and Opaque IIDs" > > I propose to use the word "opaque" here because the pseudo-random number > generator is an implementation de

Re: draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses: Document title

2013-08-13 Thread t . petch
w that the two are closely related, but different, to highlight what has changed. Adding "stable" does the job. Tom Petch >Brian > > > > > -Dave > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: ipv6-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org

Re: draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses: Document title

2013-08-12 Thread Fernando Gont
On 08/12/2013 09:11 PM, james woodyatt wrote: >> Given the above options I'd stick with the current title. Besides, >> the community has become used to refer to this method as >> "stable-privacy-addresses".. so changing the title at this point >> would, IMHO, only contribute to confusion. > > Coun

Re: draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses: Document title

2013-08-12 Thread james woodyatt
On Aug 9, 2013, at 14:59 , Fernando Gont wrote: > The arguemtn, as far as I can tell, is that the current title might be > confusing (mostly because of the confusion there is with different > terminology on the subject). Oh yay! Something I'm good at! > Given the above options I'd stick with

RE: draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses: Document title

2013-08-12 Thread Dave Thaler
> -Original Message- > From: Bob Hinden [mailto:bob.hin...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 12:59 PM > To: Mark ZZZ Smith > Cc: Bob Hinden; Ole Troan; Brian Carpenter; IPv6 IPv6 List; Dave Thaler > Subject: Re: draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses: Docume

Re: draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses: Document title

2013-08-12 Thread Fernando Gont
Hi, Bob, On 08/12/2013 04:59 PM, Bob Hinden wrote: > > Pseudo-Random Per-Subnet Interface Identifiers > > They are pseudo-random and intended to be used on a single subnet. > > Personally, I would prefer something like these titles because > "privacy" is once of several characteristics and the

Re: draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses: Document title

2013-08-12 Thread Bob Hinden
Mark, > Why does this method have to be limited to SLAAC, or rather, wouldn't > describing it as SLAAC related imply that this or a similar technique can't > be used with DHCPv6 or any other address configuration methods? > > While DHCPv6 assigned addresses are naturally per-subnet, I'd think t

Re: draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses: Document title

2013-08-12 Thread Mark ZZZ Smith
Hi, - Original Message - > From: Ole Troan > To: Brian E Carpenter > Cc: Fernando Gont ; "6...@ietf.org" <6...@ietf.org>; > Dave Thaler > Sent: Monday, 12 August 2013 6:59 PM > Subject: Re: draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses: Document titl

Re: draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses: Document title

2013-08-12 Thread Fernando Gont
On 08/12/2013 07:31 AM, Ole Troan wrote: >> One thing is some node using an address to communicate with you. >> Another thing is that other node being able to learn other >> information by means of such address. >> >> -- e.g, since the IID changes from one network to another, you >> cannot track t

Re: draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses: Document title

2013-08-12 Thread Ole Troan
Fernando, I will observe that Alissa's term "random per-network" isn't in any of the possibilities below and the reasons given wouldn't apply if that term were used. Perhaps that could be used in a title? >>> >>> Nah. Too complex for a title, and "random" is a bad word

Re: draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses: Document title

2013-08-12 Thread Fernando Gont
Hi, Ole, On 08/12/2013 05:59 AM, Ole Troan wrote: >>> >>> I will observe that Alissa's term "random per-network" isn't in any of the >>> possibilities >>> below and the reasons given wouldn't apply if that term were used. Perhaps >>> that >>> could be used in a title? >> >> Nah. Too complex for

Re: draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses: Document title

2013-08-12 Thread Ole Troan
>> >> I will observe that Alissa's term "random per-network" isn't in any of the >> possibilities >> below and the reasons given wouldn't apply if that term were used. Perhaps >> that >> could be used in a title? > > Nah. Too complex for a title, and "random" is a bad word - you should always

Re: draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses: Document title

2013-08-09 Thread Brian E Carpenter
un...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of >> Fernando Gont >> Sent: Friday, August 9, 2013 2:59 PM >> To: 6...@ietf.org >> Subject: draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses: Document title >> >> Folks, >> >> I has been suggested to me that we might want to change the

RE: draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses: Document title

2013-08-09 Thread Dave Thaler
ailto:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Fernando Gont > Sent: Friday, August 9, 2013 2:59 PM > To: 6...@ietf.org > Subject: draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses: Document title > > Folks, > > I has been suggested to me that we might want to change the title of this &

draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses: Document title

2013-08-09 Thread Fernando Gont
Folks, I has been suggested to me that we might want to change the title of this document, and the chairs have suggested that I comment on this one on-list. The arguemtn, as far as I can tell, is that the current title might be confusing (mostly because of the confusion there is with different te