Re: [JDEV] where is document for make jabber client?

> I want to know protocol between client and server. > how it login(auth), and how it gets roster, etc... > > but i don't know what document to read. http://docs.jabber.org/general/html/protocol.html Good place to start :) Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:26359483 Rat Softwa

Re: [JDEV] Advertising Namespace

that revenue source if they wish (excluding ICQ, they already had a large trapped audience when they introduced there ads, it's very difficult for a user to changed there IM system, thank god for jabber :) Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:26359483 Rat Software http://www.rat-software.com/ P

[JDEV] Browseing

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Re: [JDEV] Browseing

). > How should I be doing it? > Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:26359483 > Rat Software > http://www.rat-software.com/ > Please leave quoted text in place when replying Don't worry, I've managed to work it out, and it was a very stupid mistake :) Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ

Re: [JDEV] Q: Priority values in presence?

l traffic be routed to the available one? If not, that > implies that a well behaved client should automatically lower its > priority as its status becomes less available. > > Thanks, > > —Jens JabberIM (jabber.com's client) allows you to set it's priority, try setti

Re: [JDEV] Email or SMS transports?

it costs them a little bit but they absorb the cost. Plus I read that (at least in the UK) the Mobile operators are going to start charging each other for messages sent over they're network, making free SMS services totally uneconomical. /me hopes it is possible :) Thomas Parslow (PatRat)

Re[2]: [JDEV] Limitations of XHTML Basic

27;em.) > Cellphones can just ignore them. > > —Jens Wouldn't that make it invalid XML? Hmm, this is an extract of the kind of thing the JabberIM client (which just implemented sending of xhtml messages in the new version) sends: http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> test T

Re[2]: [JDEV] Buddy icons & File Transfer

s it would be quite unlikely :) That way would remain compatible with the other way being used in clients like JabberIM and WinJab, the receiver does not need to know whether he/she is downloading directly from the sender or via a third party. Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:26359483 Rat Software h

Re: [JDEV] RE: File Transfer [was buddy icons]

Just been rereading the protocol docs: your right, I'm wrong :) One thing though, once the conversation has been snooped on, isn't the security already totally compromised? Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:26359483 Rat Software http://www.rat-software.com/ Please leave quoted text in

Re[2]: [JDEV] RE: File Transfer [was buddy icons]

wer given was that the limit for an XML node is 500k. I would have thought sending anything over a few k would cause a big problem for users with very slow connections (while it is being received no other messages can get through) Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:26359483 Rat Software http:

Re[2]: [JDEV] help!

ut ICQ: ICQ uses a very insecure method for subscription requests, it is actually handled *client* side! This means that with a quick patch you can add anyone to your contact list even in the official client. It would seem a bit pointless for the ICQ gateway to implement this client side features :) Thom

Re[2]: [JDEV] Relationship with .NET?

t; to par with .NET.. > > "I suggest if we as an industry are going to back anything we back small > peices of wood made so we can pick our teeth, and LET TOOTHPICKS DIE.." > > Shesh.. Toothpicks can be made from wood, among other things ;) Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:

[JDEV] Offline contacts apear to be online

linked to the discussion on using TCP KeepAlive... Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:26359483 Rat Software http://www.rat-software.com/ Please leave quoted text in place when replying ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev

Re: [JDEV] Kid-safe messaging: [was buddy icons]

this should be fairly watertight... Maybe things could be setup so that all messages received from users not on the roster are forwarded to another JID (the admins) but this would require a modified client. For the time being, just not using the ICQ transport should be enough, it's not a pr

Re[2]: [JDEV] Kid-safe messaging: [was buddy icons]

ccount (and no email > spam to my hotmail account neither). But that relies on every user knowing what they're doing ;) Also, many users wish to be listed in online directories so that people can find them. Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:26359483 Rat Software http://www.rat-software.com

Re[2]: [JDEV] Kid-safe messaging: [was buddy icons]

ht out well so as to not allow loop holes for abuse. Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:26359483 Rat Software http://www.rat-software.com/ Please leave quoted text in place when replying ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev

Re[2]: [JDEV] Kid-safe messaging: [was buddy icons]

n't imported their entire iCQ > lists. Spammers target high numbered accounts because newbies are better targets for spam :) My account get's very little but both my brothers accounts get loads (they signed up more recently) Thomas Parslow (P

[JDEV] Lost messages

that is was lost is given to the sender. Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:26359483 Rat Software http://www.rat-software.com/ Please leave quoted text in place when replying ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev

Re: [JDEV] install jabber server....

> hi all, > can jabber server be installed in a windows NT/2000 environment... > If yes can you please tell me how? > thanks > best regards > sabyasach A message was posted (an replied to) on this subject yesterday: subject: "[JDEV] Looking for a Windows based Jabber

Re: [JDEV] Karma and transferring large XML message packets...

he OOB approach is not going to work for us. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > peter How about splitting the data up into smaller chunks for transmission? Someone suggested something like this for file transfer a couple of weeks ago... Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:2635948

Re: [JDEV] Unreliable?

a little while ago, for some people, if they go offline without first shutting down jabber then they appear to be online for up to 15 minutes, any messages sent to them in that time go to the big bit bucket in the sky... Does anyone know if there are any plans to fix this? Thomas Parslow (PatRat)

Re[2]: [JDEV] (no subject)

>DOS attack, anyone? Or just ring the 0800 number to complain if your in the UK, costs them :) Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:26359483 Rat Software http://www.rat-software.com/ Please leave quoted text in place when replying ___ jdev mailing l

Re: [JDEV] password?

> I'm interested in 'make jabber client' > and I'm looking Winjab's protocol > there is Hi, Take a look at Jens Alfke's Jabber Client Developer's Cheat Sheet at: http://homepage.mac.com/jens/Jabber/JabberClientCheatSheet.html Thomas Parsl

Re: [JDEV] filtering and delaying messages

he sort of thing that would be best done at the client level, the client would receive the messages but not present them to the user until the users state changes. Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:26359483 Rat Software http://www.rat-software.com/ Please leave quoted text in place when replying _

Re: [JDEV] Fighting Jabber Spam

o i can mangle it, rip it, crush it... to... to... If only we could have something like the ICE in William Gibson's Cyberspace books ;) Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:26359483 Rat Software http://www.rat-software.com/ Please leave quoted text in place when replying __

[JDEV] Marvin Jabber Client

Hi, I've just released a Pre-Alpha preview release of my Jabber client and I'd appreciate some feedback. It's a fully skinable client written in Euphoria. For anyone interested it's at: https://sourceforge.net/projects/marvin-jabber/ Thanks :) Thomas Parslow (PatRat

Re[2]: [JDEV] Marvin Jabber Client

> Thomas Parslow (PatRat) wrote: >>Hi, >> >>I've just released a Pre-Alpha preview release of my Jabber client and >>I'd appreciate some feedback. It's a fully skinable client written in >>Euphoria. >> >>For anyone interested it's

[JDEV] Encrypting logs

ey're log files. Does any one have any thoughts on this or has anyone found a good way of doing it? Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:26359483 Rat Software http://www.rat-software.com/ Please leave quoted text in place when replying ___ jdev mailing l

Re: [JDEV] jabber client

t: http://docs.jabber.org/ Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:26359483 Rat Software http://www.rat-software.com/ Please leave quoted text in place when replying ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev

Re: [JDEV] Available: Jabber Web Pager documentation

Am I doing something wrong or is it just down atm? Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:26359483 Rat Software http://www.rat-software.com/ Please leave quoted text in place when replying ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev

Re[2]: [JDEV] URL form of JID?

ould get > confusing. I would have assumed it would have started a line-by-line > private chat (as opposed to sending a "normal" message- see > http://docs.jabber.org/jpg/html/main.html#REFMESSAGE for details). > Having two "chat" types in Jabber does confuse things a

Re[2]: [JDEV] A way to spread the message about Jabber and interoperability

ived this message I > would be extremely annoyed and would likely never try Jabber, but that's > just me. And me! In fact it would probably stop me using Jabber if that were to happen :) Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:26359483 Rat Software http://www.rat-software.com/ Please lea

[JDEV] Marvin 0.0.5 Released!

ormat is a lot more flexible). For more information see: http://marvin-jabber.sourceforge.net/ Changes for 0.0.5: * Message History * XML Debug Window (left alt-keypad minus) * Gateway setup * Auto away * Lots more small additions and bug squishings Feedback would be much appreciated :) Thomas Pa

Re[2]: [JDEV] Open source Win32 client

those criteria: http://jabbercentral.org/clients/view.php?id=1003246756 Also, there's a JabberCOM MFC on the JabberCOM site: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/jabbercom/JabberCOM_MFC-1.0.zip Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:26359483 Rat Software http://www.rat-software.com/ Please leave quoted t

Re: [JDEV] Thoughts about AOL blocking IPs

domain of that "dynamic DNS entry" we'll operate a jabber >server just for running the transport. Just a thought, if there is a DNS entry always pointing to the AIM transport then AOL can just block that. Wouldn't stop the relaying idea from working though...

Re[2]: [JDEV] Theoretic.com Now Blocked

imes now), it's even more of a pain to have to move entirely to a new server. Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:26359483 Rat Software http://www.rat-software.com/ Please leave quoted text in place when replying ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev

Re[2]: [JDEV] Theoretic.com Now Blocked

sent plain text in AIM/ICQ, is that correct?) Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:26359483 Rat Software http://www.rat-software.com/ Please leave quoted text in place when replying ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev

Re[2]: [JDEV] SRV record and sending S2S

n a set up issue and what possibly could it have been? Also, are MX records still supported? Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:26359483 Rat Software http://www.rat-software.com/ Please leave quoted text in place when replying ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev

Re[4]: [JDEV] SRV record and sending S2S

a client should use SRV records? If the port given in the SRV record is the S2S port then how would the client determine which port to connect to? Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:26359483 Rat Software http://www.rat-software.com/ Please leave quoted text in place when

Re[6]: [JDEV] SRV record and sending S2S

lement SRV records at some time... Is there any reason for S2S using a different port to C2S? Would it be possible for a server to accept client connections on it's S2S port? Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:26359483 Rat Software http://www.rat-software.com/ Plea

Re: [JDEV] Support to Spanish Characters

. > How do I solve this problem. Any suggestions. Thanks in advance. > Regards, > Amarnath Yara > Columbia 29201.SC. Those characters are unicode encoded in UTF-8, have a look at: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2279.html This should be handled by your XML parser Thomas Parslow (PatR

Re: [JDEV] Jabber server redirection

ess which is different from the server name. In the client I am developing I allow the user to specify the name of the server in the username field by entering it in the form: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone have any other ideas on how to do this? Thomas Parslow (PatRat) ICQ #:2635

Re[2]: [JDEV] File Transfer Proposals

t. AFAIK most HTTP headers are optional, so that should work fine for HTTP compatible clients and servers. Does anyone know the minimum required for HTTP/1.0 compatibility? Thomas Parslow (PatRat) E-Mail/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 26359483 ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev

Re[2]: [JDEV] File Transfer Proposals

words. Hi, JEP 3 describes the protocol used, you can see it here: http://foundation.jabber.org/jeps/jep-0003.html PASS itself is available from the contrib section at jabber.org: http://download.jabber.org/contrib/ You can read it's readme file here: http://download.jabber.org/contrib/pas

Re[2]: [JDEV] Jabber server redirection

> You have tos et up an mx record of company.com pointing to > jabber.su.company.com I don't think MX records are supported by Jabber any more, they were replaced by SRV records. Thomas Parslow (PatRat) E-Mail/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IC

Re[2]: [JDEV] Yahoo transport?

e Yahoo Transport? > > Peter > > -- > Peter Saint-Andre > email+jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's working fine here. 1.4.2 server (with pth downgraded) and the CVS version of the yahoo transport from about the time 1.4.2 was released. Thomas Parslow (PatRat) E-Mail

Re[2]: [JDEV] Jabber server hostname and JIDs

nects to a server through an address which is different from the servers name and it has an set up for that address is there any way for the client to determine the servers actual name? The solution I have in my client right now is to let the user enter their full JID in the username box if it di

Re[2]: [JDEV] Jabber Transports - New Architecture

> delivering mail requires a central server also (determined > by MX-record in DNS). so it is much like email except that > the domain part of the jabber-uid is directly resolved > (no JX record in DNS :-) > holger The _jabber_ SRV record is Jabber's MX rec

[JDEV] Marvin 0.0.6 Released!

and back color customizable * Status of remote users now shown in message windows * Changes to skin format (see skinchanges.txt in the docs directory) * Lots and lots of bugs fixed and large internal parts rewritten As always feedback is very much appreciated :) Thomas Parslow (PatRat) E-Mail

Re: [JDEV] AIM-Transport under cygwin

;t what's causing your problem but it's best to compile jabberd with pth 1.4.0 (that's the version which is now included in the package). There were a whole load of problems with later versions of pth and jabberd... Thomas Parslow (PatRat) E-Mail/Ja

Re: [JDEV] JabberApplet - Dynamic Creation of User ??

Jabber clients do it. See: http://www.jabber.org/ietf/draft-miller-jabber-00.html#extended-iq-register Thomas Parslow (PatRat) E-Mail/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 26359483 ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev

Re[2]: [JDEV] Question about UserName and Clients

ing the the domain given after the @ sign in the username field. There is another way, I think it has something todo with using tags in the jabber.xml file. Then a connecting client would believe itself to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] but everyone else would see it as

Re[2]: [JDEV] Does jabber server queues messages

are meant to reduce this sort of thing, not sure how that works on the s2s level though... Thomas Parslow (PatRat) E-Mail/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 26359483 ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev

[JDEV] Multiple elements within IQs

Hi, Is it possible for there to be 2 or more unrelated elements within an IQ? For example would the following be valid and if it is then what would be the correct responce? It doesn't seem correct but I can't find anywhere that says that it isn't... Thomas Parslow

Re: emoting (Re: [JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines)

better", > | so clearly Linux was a supported platform. Thomas Parslow (PatRat) E-Mail/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 26359483 ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev

Re[2]: emoting (Re: [JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines)

...can someone tell me what the point of these > are? I've always wondered. For people who can't remember their names? > Michael. /me just likes the excuse to refer to himself in the third person ;) Thomas Parslow (PatRat) E-Mail/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 26359483 __

Re[2]: emoting (Re: [JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines)

t would precede all other messages and sets it apart, for example: Bob: I'm thirsty Tom: Ok, just a sec * Tom hands bob a coke Ok, so not the most useful thing in the work but some people use it... Thomas Parslow (PatRat) E-Mail/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 26359483 _

Re[2]: [JDEV] Using jabber for an application

.jabber.org/protocol/ More up to date documentation. Shouldn't docs.jabber.org point to there or something? Thomas Parslow (PatRat) E-Mail/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 26359483 ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev

Re[2]: [JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines

th silly dimensions, also i will cause problems where people use a > lots of emoticons within a message, something like emoticons i dont think is > best delt with by embedding it in this way. It also allows the sender to determine the receivers IP address (if they retrieve the image) which is

Re[4]: [JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines

onvinced even this is needed but it wouldn't hurt). Also, as has already been mentioned, most clients will probably want to provide they're own emoticon graphics which fit in with the rest of the UI. Thomas Parslow (PatRat) E-Mail/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 26359483 ___

Re[2]: [JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines

see "BTW". Maybe if I'm lazy (which I am;) I might appreciate some sort of auto complete in my client but it would just be a pain if the remote client went and changed what I'd written. Thomas Parslow (PatRat) E-Mail/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 26359483 ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev

Re[2]: [JDEV] filetransfer in jabber

TTP server, or even just pointing to a file hosted elsewhere, all it sees is an http url to download from... Thomas Parslow (PatRat) E-Mail/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 26359483 ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev

[JDEV] Guest access

? I'd like to do as little modification to the server as possible (I was hoping I could find a way of doing it without modifying in the server at all) Thomas Parslow (PatRat) E-Mail/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 26359483 ___ jdev mailing list [