Re: [jdev] File Transfer on Google Talker

2006-07-28 Thread Trejkaz
On 29/07/2006, at 00:20 AM, Tony Yat-Tung Cheung wrote: Hi, I read that Google Talk is rolling out file transfer. Does anyone which file transfer standard are they using? The following link may be of interest. http://wiki.jabber.org/index.php/Psi_JFT TX

Re: [jdev] service banners?

2006-07-19 Thread Trejkaz
On Wednesday 19 July 2006 18:46, Benjamin Podszun wrote: Please - don't mix banners with braindead and completely useless eMail signatures.. These disclaimers you are probably talking about are largely deemed irrelevant and I've yet to find one that really contains anything worth the

Re: [jdev] jabber aliases?

2006-06-19 Thread Trejkaz
On Monday 19 June 2006 17:08, Igor Goryachev wrote: Hello. I have several domains and want to implement something similar to mail-like aliases (not virtual hosts) in jabber? Is it possible at all? It would be quite possible to implement, but I'm not familiar with a server which offers this

Re: [jdev] jabber aliases?

2006-06-19 Thread Trejkaz
On Monday 19 June 2006 21:37, Tony Finch wrote: On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Igor Goryachev wrote: I have several domains and want to implement something similar to mail-like aliases (not virtual hosts) in jabber? Is it possible at all? Forwarding is difficult in Jabber because it is closed-loop

Re: [jdev] sms2jabber - beta

2006-06-13 Thread Trejkaz
On Tuesday 13 June 2006 22:56, Jesus Cea wrote: Marco Balmer wrote: I've implemented a beta of sms2jabber [1]. Try it and let me know. Nice. But it refuses presence subscriptions :p Not that this would stop one sending messages to it. TX -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [jdev] search service - on which address?

2006-06-13 Thread Trejkaz
Will I have to let my users enter the address of the search server, or is there some automatic way? If you do a disco#items query against the main server's JID, it should (if it's being friendly) list the search component's JID as a child. If you're searching for users, you just need to find a

Re: [jdev] Question about XMPP authentication

2006-06-06 Thread Trejkaz
the JID without them having to sacrifice their password. Trejkaz, can you explain more about that approach? I have found this article which is about x google token. Is that what you mean?? http://dystopics.dump.be/2006/02/04/the-mysteries-of-x-google-token-and-why-it-matters/Google's is certainly one way

Re: [jdev] Question about XMPP authentication

2006-06-04 Thread Trejkaz
On Monday 05 June 2006 03:56, Michal vorner Vaner wrote: On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 12:27:18AM +0700, Nguyen TV wrote: - In case the JID belongs to [11]jabber.org, my server now will act like a forward server. It receives messages from myClient then sends to [12]jabber.org on behalf of

Re: [jdev] Tor + Jabber

2006-05-24 Thread Trejkaz
On Thursday 25 May 2006 05:19, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: BTW, this is interesting: http://wiki.noreply.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/TorifyHOWTO See the listings under Instant Messaging... Incidentally, I use this myself. TOR is my last resort in situations when I can't SSH into anywhere to

Re: [jdev] Transport suggestions

2006-05-23 Thread Trejkaz
On Tuesday 23 May 2006 11:38, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Anyone have any suggestions? Has anyone wrapped the Gaim libraries, by chance? I'm not finding anything on Google, so I'm not optimistic. There's no need for a Google transport, the Google Talk service uses native XMPP

Re: [jdev] Re: Transport suggestions

2006-05-23 Thread Trejkaz
On Wednesday 24 May 2006 06:20, Remko Troncon wrote: For what it's worth, I've been interested in a Jabber Transport of sorts as well. I have a bazillion Jabber accounts at this point and I'd kinda like to be able to log into a single location to get to all of them. ;D (mainly because

Re: [jdev] VTD-XML version 1.6

2006-05-18 Thread Trejkaz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 19/05/2006, at 10:42 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, every apps pretty much do that using DOM and SAX? but DOM is the in-memory representation, not what gets sent on the wire? When you route, you have wait for the message to arrive.. because

Re: [jdev] VTD-XML version 1.6

2006-05-17 Thread Trejkaz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 18/05/2006, at 03:23 AM, Jimmy Zhang wrote: VTD-XML project team is proud to announce the availability of both C, C# and Java version 1.5 of VTD-XML, the next generation open-source XML parser that goes beyond DOM and SAX in terms of

Re: [jdev] VTD-XML version 1.6

2006-05-17 Thread Trejkaz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 18/05/2006, at 13:02 PM, Jimmy Zhang wrote: Not a problem, the document stay in memory for as long as the application needs it... afterwards it is garbage collected... That's not the problem, the problem is that you can't have a whole

Re: [jdev] is this a legal XMPP packet? - server edits it!?

2006-05-14 Thread Trejkaz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 15/05/2006, at 11:58 AM, Tobias Thierer wrote: Is the following a legal XMPP packet (linebreaks inserted for readability)? iq id=rpc-0wLET-8 to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Biomatters type=set query xmlns=jabber:iq:biomatters:rpc version=1.0

Re: [jdev] Admin Address Server requirements

2006-05-04 Thread Trejkaz
On Thursday 04 May 2006 15:58, Chris Mullins wrote: The main use case which it seems to be addressing is, a user wants to send an IM to the server admin, which is great - but this isn't a strong way to do that. None of the users I know, including myself, would send a message to jabber.org in

Re: [jdev] Roster caching

2006-05-04 Thread Trejkaz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/05/2006, at 08:46 AM, Matthias Wimmer wrote: Personally I'd like to implement SyncML on the server which could be used to syncronize all types of data, not just the roster data we are talking about here. SyncML is an XML based

Re: [jdev] Admin Address Server requirements

2006-05-04 Thread Trejkaz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/05/2006, at 08:15 AM, Matthias Wimmer wrote: Hi Peter! Peter Saint-Andre schrieb: That was my experience as well. But that behavior is an artifact of the way jabberd 1.x sends out welcome messages. What would be the suggested way to

Re: [jdev] Admin Address Server requirements

2006-05-03 Thread Trejkaz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/05/2006, at 14:19 PM, Chris Mullins wrote: I went looking for a JEP that describes this, or anything with more detail, but didn't see anything. There are some questions that I've got: You were probably looking for JEP-0157:

Re: [jdev] Re: GNUPG as DLL

2006-04-24 Thread Trejkaz
On Tuesday 25 April 2006 01:17, Michal vorner Vaner wrote: it obeys one of the unix rules - one task = one program. Any instant messaging application which implements voice or video chat already disobeys this rule, so I don't think people should stick too strongly to it. I do not thing the

Re: [jdev] Re: GNUPG as DLL

2006-04-24 Thread Trejkaz
On Tuesday 25 April 2006 04:47, Michal vorner Vaner wrote: Anyway, GPG was designed to run under UNIX systems, where launching a binary is really fast (it has to be, since many good application use external programs for different actions, which menas configurability and not duplexing of code)

Re: [jdev] GNUPG as DLL

2006-04-21 Thread Trejkaz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 22/04/2006, at 01:51 AM, Maciek Niedzielski wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Justin Karneges wrote: On Friday 21 April 2006 06:44, George Hazan wrote: Does anybody know about an attempt to compile the GNUPG sources as

Re: [jdev] Re: discovering extensions without disco

2006-04-05 Thread Trejkaz
Remko Troncon wrote: - If you really want to support Google Talk, you can get away with a regexp match on the JID, and enable all these non-standard extensions. No other server is using these anyway. As long as GT doesn't change the allowable email addresses, you're safe. I wonder how long

Re: [jdev] Re: discovering extensions without disco

2006-04-05 Thread Trejkaz
On Wednesday 05 April 2006 18:24, Robert McQueen wrote: In my client, I don't want to present a server-side Block List to the user unless I know that I can actually block. If I've disco'd and found iq:privacy, and implement it, I can offer this, but I'm not sure what to do on Google. Well,

Re: [jdev] Re: discovering extensions without disco

2006-04-05 Thread Trejkaz
On Thursday 06 April 2006 02:11, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Remko Troncon wrote: we should make simple iq-based protocol for blocking and going invisible, as a server-side profile of privacy lists. Yes, that's probably a good idea. Could be done with JEP-0050 I guess. Would it be possible to

Re: [jdev] Re: discovering extensions without disco

2006-04-05 Thread Trejkaz
Peter Saint-Andre wrote: What is the point of hardcoding visible-to-from rule? AFAICS, that is no different from the visible rule (since you send presence only to people who have subscribed to you). But perhaps I'm missing something. :-) This is true. I had only thrown that in as an example.

Re: [jdev] type='available' in presence/ stanza

2006-03-28 Thread Trejkaz
On Wednesday 29 March 2006 01:57, Norman Rasmussen wrote: If you can _please_ track down this user and find out which software they're using. Take the software out and shoot it :-P Seriously though, this is probably an older client that hasn't been updated to follow the specs when they were

Re: Service registration for services (Was Re: [jdev] auto-updating server list)

2006-03-13 Thread Trejkaz
On Monday 13 March 2006 00:13, Jesus Cea wrote: I agree :). I've thinking for ages about a central service registration for services. That is, that services available via XMPP can self-register in a well known service. And that service could provide search features for mere humans to locate

Re: [jdev] web presence

2006-03-13 Thread Trejkaz
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 02:49, Peter Millard wrote: This is exactly how I would implement this as well. 1) Have an external component that uses iq:register protocol with x-data for picking themes, etc. This component subscribes to the user's presence during registration (just like a

Re: Service registration for services (Was Re: [jdev] auto-updating server list)

2006-03-13 Thread Trejkaz
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 07:54, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Trejkaz wrote: Well... unless you gave Google permission to view all the users via service discovery. Then you could do some really interesting things. Yeah, like directory harvesting for spam. :-) Well, the day Google start doing

Re: Service registration for services (Was Re: [jdev] auto-updating server list)

2006-03-13 Thread Trejkaz
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 04:13, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Trejkaz wrote: On Monday 13 March 2006 00:13, Jesus Cea wrote: I agree :). I've thinking for ages about a central service registration for services. That is, that services available via XMPP can self-register in a well known

Re: [jdev] Re: JEP-0027 (OpenPGP) implementation question

2006-03-06 Thread Trejkaz
Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Now, neither OpenPGP or S/MIME enable you to repudiate what you said, and if people find that important then they would need to do JEP-0116 (or something very much like it, such as Gaim's OTR plugin). So in part the differences here come down to requirements and

Re: [jdev] Re: JEP-0027 (OpenPGP) implementation question

2006-03-05 Thread Trejkaz
On Sunday 05 March 2006 22:05, Juan Antonio Gómez Moriano wrote: Finally and considering that i will use OpenPGP to handle the encryption, should i use GnuPG? I have been looking at the BouncyCastle cryptography extension (a set of librearies to perform cryptographic functions), by using that

Re: [jdev] Re: JEP-0027 (OpenPGP) implementation question

2006-03-05 Thread Trejkaz
On Monday 06 March 2006 07:04, Norman Rasmussen wrote: Agreed, gpg/pgp keys are 'supposed' to be inheriently strong, and therefore no automatic retrieval/exchange should even/ever be done, ever. People are getting confused here. There is *nothing* wrong with automatically retrieving the PGP

Re: [jdev] virtual hosting and certificate checking

2006-03-03 Thread Trejkaz
On Friday 03 March 2006 21:10, Justin Karneges wrote: Hmm, there shouldn't be a need to introduce server names into TLS, which is technically supposed to exist independently of TCP/IP. IMO, a better way would be to use RFC 2817, which allows upgrading a plaintext HTTP connection to TLS

Re: [jdev] virtual hosting and certificate checking

2006-03-03 Thread Trejkaz
On Friday 03 March 2006 23:10, Richard Dobson wrote: Funnily enough, if we'd had naming in TLS from the start, there probably wouldn't even *be* STARTTLS since everyone would be using the better method. :-) I doubt that since the main reason STARTTLS is there is so that you can reuse the

Re: [jdev] virtual hosting and certificate checking

2006-03-02 Thread Trejkaz
Jesus Cea wrote: In current TLS, client gives the host it is trying to connect, BEFORE negociating crypto. So if you are using a modern webserver and a modern browser, you can share the IP. Now, that's awesome. However, I know for sure that the very latest release of Apache can't do it,

Re: [jdev] Jabber-ID email header

2006-03-01 Thread Trejkaz
On Thursday 02 March 2006 06:38, Hal Rottenberg wrote: On 3/1/06, Hal Rottenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but even so the from header isn't called SMTP-ID, it's called from. +1 for the more human-friendly Jabber-ID Almost forgot to note that from is also not in URI format. It's in

Re: [jdev] virtual hosting and certificate checking

2006-03-01 Thread Trejkaz
On Thursday 02 March 2006 05:59, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Let's say you are DreamHost, which has offered jabber services for years now. You want to offer secure connections. But you host 50,000+ domains. Are you going to have a separate certificate for each of those domains? Yes, because it's

Re: [jdev] virtual hosting and certificate checking

2006-03-01 Thread Trejkaz
On Thursday 02 March 2006 06:36, Norman Rasmussen wrote: This can be problematic for virtual hosting. Consider the following scenario: - - shakespeare.lit runs an XMPP server. - - shakespeare.lit hosts XMPP services for denmark.lit, montague.lit, capulet.lit, etc. There are two

Re: [jdev] virtual hosting and certificate checking

2006-03-01 Thread Trejkaz
Gary Burd wrote: A couple of snips from the conversation: For hosting providers it's usually an up-sell to your customers to add security because it's each domain owner's responsibility to manage their own certificate. Extra cost and responsiblity can impede XMPP adoption. Look, if

Re: [jdev] Jabber-ID email header

2006-02-18 Thread Trejkaz
On Friday 17 February 2006 07:51, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: FYI, I've started to define a Jabber-ID email header so that people can automatically detect JIDs associated with senders (could be cool for presence icons in email clients, message verification a la JEP-0070, etc.). More here:

Re: [jdev] Re: Re: Gtalk implements jep-0136; any implementations for the rest of us?

2006-02-11 Thread Trejkaz
On Saturday 11 February 2006 20:40, Norman Rasmussen wrote: On 2/11/06, Trejkaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 10 February 2006 03:01, Michal Vaner (Vorner) wrote: Hello, I would like to know, will there be a way to save conversations that are encrypted, for example by gpg

Re: [jdev] Re: Re: Gtalk implements jep-0136; any implementations for the rest of us?

2006-02-10 Thread Trejkaz
On Friday 10 February 2006 03:01, Michal Vaner (Vorner) wrote: Hello, I would like to know, will there be a way to save conversations that are encrypted, for example by gpg? Will there be a way to explicitly change the history? If you mean storing them decrypted, then you probably want to do

Re: [jdev] Privacy feature

2006-02-05 Thread Trejkaz
On Sunday 05 February 2006 19:52, Michal Vaner (Vorner) wrote: Dne neděle 05 únor 2006 08:49 Trejkaz napsal(a): Hi all. I've been looking at knocking together a simple privacy list management webapp, which might eventually be of use for all those poor people whose clients don't support

Re: [jdev] Privacy feature

2006-02-05 Thread Trejkaz
On Sunday 05 February 2006 21:52, Michal Vaner (Vorner) wrote: So basically what you're saying is, the only way to find out is to try and then get an error, because: 1) a server might be 100% XMPP compliant, and simply allow the privacy list feature to be disabled, or; Then the

Re: [jdev] Privacy feature

2006-02-05 Thread Trejkaz
On Sunday 05 February 2006 22:54, Alexey Nezhdanov wrote: В сообщении от Воскресенье 05 Февраль 2006 14:09 Trejkaz написал(a): On Sunday 05 February 2006 21:52, Michal Vaner (Vorner) wrote: So basically what you're saying is, the only way to find out is to try and then get an error I

[jdev] Privacy feature

2006-02-04 Thread Trejkaz
Hi all. I've been looking at knocking together a simple privacy list management webapp, which might eventually be of use for all those poor people whose clients don't support it directly. One of the things I just noticed is that ejabberd doesn't list jabber:iq:privacy as a feature in service

Re: [jdev] Re: googletalk

2006-01-30 Thread Trejkaz
On Monday 30 January 2006 21:10, Remko Troncon wrote: I am sending the following message to a googletalk recipient over S2S: Is the recipient on your contact list, and vice versa ? Wouldn't that have been the wrong error code if that's the case? It wasn't a bad request... TX --

Re: [jdev] All together now...

2006-01-17 Thread Trejkaz
Norman Rasmussen wrote: Google are validating the incoming stanzas more than anyone else has before. jabberd2 currently sends stanzas in the jabber:client namespace. I've chatted to Stephen, and opened a bug for jabberd2 here: http://j2.openaether.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=159 Aha. That

Re: [jdev] All together now...

2006-01-17 Thread Trejkaz
Chris Mullins wrote: [Server Error Checking] Norman Rasmussen Wrote: I would be doing exactly the same as the google croud are. If the connection breaks the spec - drop it fast. hah. That might work for Google, but not for anyone else. AKA Be liberal in what you accept, and

Re: [jdev] All together now...

2006-01-17 Thread Trejkaz
Norman Rasmussen wrote: On 1/18/06, Trejkaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that another glitch? IQs are always supposed generate a response, so I would figure if someone drops the response, they should send an error on so that the initial requester at least knows that something went wrong. well

Re: [jdev] It is possible to write a java proxy between a client jive-wildfire ?

2006-01-01 Thread Trejkaz
On Saturday 31 December 2005 22:53, Abdeltif Nouqrat wrote: Hi, in order to sniff the exchanged packets from/to jive-wildfire and filter specific packets, I want to write a proxy between jabber client and the server. First I want to know if that's possible. If yes, what are the information

Re: [jdev] Talk - AIM

2005-12-22 Thread Trejkaz
On Thursday 22 December 2005 21:08, Norman Rasmussen wrote: They should just be xmpp enabling aim ([EMAIL PROTECTED] anyone?), and then gtalk should just work on their s2s support. Now, that would be awesome for a number of reasons. Firstly, nobody would ever need an AIM transport, unless in

Re: [jdev] group name syntax

2005-12-05 Thread Trejkaz
In relation to groups that a contact can belong to, what is the valid group name syntax; just characters, numbers, and spaces? Since I had the feeling that questions about valid names have been asked before, I've looked through the archive of this list and looked at the xmpp.org site.

Re: [jdev] Open src implemention of Jabber Client, which is best?

2005-11-23 Thread Trejkaz
agreed, tcl/tk looks ugly. gtk is fairly ugly too. Only really Qt is starting to look pretty. (under win32). Notice Java dropped their horrid Swing toolkit in preference for native widgets (which makes apps like Azeureus look practically native) Actually, this is almost exactly the

Re: [jdev] Open src implemention of Jabber Client, which is best?

2005-11-23 Thread Trejkaz
Also, Java didn't drop Swing. IBM developed the SWT library which is used by the Eclipse IDE and RCP framework. Sun is still very much behind Swing. Swing's new GTK LookAndFeel is using native Gtk widgets and is looking VERY nice. Actually to be precise, it's not using native widgets.

Re: [jdev] Open src implemention of Jabber Client, which is best?

2005-11-23 Thread Trejkaz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Trejkaz wrote: On Windows, though, Swing draws just like any real theme, and thus looks better than SWT, which does not. And does any of the libraries support ClearType on Windows? I hate using Java applications, because the fonts look so bad

Re: [jdev] Open src implemention of Jabber Client, which is best?

2005-11-23 Thread Trejkaz
I wouldn't know, since about 4 years ago I haven't seen any Java applications where the fonts look bad. Do you have ClearType enabled? Yup. TX

Re: [jdev] Re: Thoughts on Interplanetary Jabber System ?

2005-11-20 Thread Trejkaz
Lightspeed is not enough for an interplanetary instant-messaging system. Why are we all talking about this anyway? Are people running out of ideas for April 1, 2006? :-) Anyway, I suspect that instant messaging is the least of your problems with coping with interplanetary distances. Imagine

Re: [jdev] Thoughts on Interplanetary Jabber System ?

2005-11-19 Thread Trejkaz
, each user takes up on average about 100 bits per second. I'm not sure how much you could really save by merely shortening the tag names (keeping in mind that many of them are already as short as they could get: q in particular.) TX -- Email: Trejkaz Xaoza [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [jdev] Re: Problem Connecting to GoogleTalk using my custom client

2005-10-27 Thread Trejkaz
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 19:35, Jacek Konieczny wrote: On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 07:58:58AM +1000, Trejkaz wrote: On Wednesday 26 October 2005 06:03, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Well, mandatory-to-implement means must-implement in software, but that doesn't mean that any particular

Re: [jdev] Re: Problem Connecting to GoogleTalk using my custom client

2005-10-25 Thread Trejkaz
for software implementation, not necessarily deployment. Do you suppose that Google have actually implemented the DIGEST-MD5 mechanism, and simply have the feature turned off on their deployment? :-) TX -- Email: Trejkaz Xaoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site: http://trypticon.org

Re: [jdev] Which API to code jabber client ?

2005-10-19 Thread Trejkaz
On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 19:31 +0200, Chems Amrani wrote: Hello I have to develop a client Jabber working on different OS. Could you tell me which API is suitable for that ? Maybe an API Java. Which one is the simplest to use ? For the moment feature like gateway with msn or other are not

Re: [jdev] Re: Google Talk transport?

2005-10-07 Thread Trejkaz
. :-) ... What's really stalling my brain here is that a company has a corporate policy which basically states that all confidential information MUST be sent outside the company, whereas sending it through more secure channels is naughty. TX -- Email: Trejkaz Xaoza [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [jdev] Google Talk transport?

2005-10-03 Thread Trejkaz
On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 19:47, John Talbot wrote: I would guess that Google would be willing to open up to a network of other jabber servers once the problem of spam is solved. ...or rather, once they've written the S2S support for their custom server. TX -- Email: Trejkaz Xaoza

Re: [jdev] Ok, here's my tiny little Perl script

2005-09-30 Thread Trejkaz
a search through the man pages. Perl syntax is: use encoding utf-8; But I was under the impression that it was utf-8 by default. But that might just be the difference... mine worked as-is, but maybe your system needs the line. TX -- Email: Trejkaz Xaoza [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [jdev] MAGIC

2005-09-30 Thread Trejkaz
server has to be in UTF-8, so it then proceeds to encode those characters as two bytes each. So I guess what you were seeing come out the other end was the result of that encoding it was adding. TX -- Email: Trejkaz Xaoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site: http://trypticon.org

Re: [jdev] Ok, here's my tiny little Perl script

2005-09-29 Thread Trejkaz
You can copy/paste it to see that it does indeed produce wrong output (at least on jabberd 1.4 Perl 5.8.4 which I use, though I doubt there's something wrong with these versions) For comparison, Jabberd 1.4.4 and Perl 5.8.6: https://trypticon.org/files/all_greek_to_me.png Are you sure your

Re: [jdev] Ok, here's my tiny little Perl script

2005-09-29 Thread Trejkaz
Which Jabber client software are you using on your desktop? Ah, yes. That was Psi (on Windows, if it wasn't evident.) TX

Re: [jdev] Fwd: Re: Lan chat

2005-09-28 Thread Trejkaz
Even if it's not the best place for asking, I wanted to ask if you know an open source software dedicated to the LAN chat. Because even if iChat, Trillian other can do it, LAN chat is a bit different from IM. For example, it doesn't require a (server) account - it's something important in

Re: [jdev] Single host, multi service.

2005-09-27 Thread Trejkaz
Sometimes I think it would have been neat if nodes were part of JIDs in the first place... then each service could have been a node off the server's own JID, and everything would be happy. Well, maybe. For pubsub, JEP-0060 section 4 (Addressing), mentions how you can do this by putting the

Re: [jdev] Single host, multi service. -was [ANN] Google Talk engineering manager live chat

2005-09-25 Thread Trejkaz
be simply to not give out the same name for a user and a conference room in the first place. As for the multi-DNS thing... we solve that using a wildcard entry. But I guess this is only really a problem for people without access to their DNS. TX -- Email: Trejkaz Xaoza [EMAIL

Re: [jdev] Second-guessing dns for s2s

2005-09-25 Thread Trejkaz
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:36, Perry Lorier wrote: What happens if I register _tcp.com ? How, exactly, would one go about registering an invalid hostname? TX -- Email: Trejkaz Xaoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site: http://trypticon.org/ Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [jdev] Second-guessing dns for s2s

2005-09-25 Thread Trejkaz
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 22:18, Perry Lorier wrote: Trejkaz wrote: On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:36, Perry Lorier wrote: What happens if I register _tcp.com ? How, exactly, would one go about registering an invalid hostname? a hostname != a domain name. _ is an invalid name for a host. _tcp.com

Re: [jdev] Determining a user's presence information

2005-09-16 Thread Trejkaz
Hi All, I have an application with I need to query jabber to determine a user's current presence status. Is there any way to do this. I would like to do this in Java. Smack or JSO are probably the two _main_ options available. Smack probably has enough functionality to write something like

Re: [jdev] Jabber File System !!!!

2005-09-16 Thread Trejkaz
. ;-) TX -- Email: Trejkaz Xaoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site: http://trypticon.org/ Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 9EEB 97D7 8F7B 7977 F39F A62C B8C7 BC8B 037E EA73 pgpAFYb2afT4C.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [jdev] Accessing the chat window from a web link

2005-09-15 Thread Trejkaz
to handle aim: . Any one can tell how this can be done ? That rather depends on the client being used. (I just started using im: instead of xmpp: on my own site recently... of course, I have no clients which use them, but one day, maybe someone will. ;-)) TX -- Email: Trejkaz Xaoza

Re: [jdev] Hosting issues

2005-09-15 Thread Trejkaz
2) TLS and s2s My users will not have certs for their domains, and even if they did, I wouldn't want to be responsible for keeping their private keys secret. TLS is not an option for my service. Why not? You might think about obtaining cacert certs during provisioning as a part of your

Re: [jdev] Re: any space limitation on JEP-0049: Private XML Storage

2005-09-08 Thread Trejkaz
the XMPP stream so hard is not to store the data on the server itself but to pass it to some entity via a file transfer stream. TX -- Email: Trejkaz Xaoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site: http://trypticon.org/ Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 9EEB 97D7 8F7B

Re: [jdev] any space limitation on JEP-0049: Private XML Storage

2005-09-07 Thread Trejkaz
Quoting Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Zhong Li wrote: Can client save large private data, says 10M bytes data on jabber.org using JEP-0049? No. If you try, rate-limiting (karma) will prevent you from doing so. If you try again, we'll delete your account. :-) If you need to store that

Re: [jdev] JEP-0085 clarification

2005-09-06 Thread Trejkaz
Quoting Travis Shirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Imagine the following scenario: 1) UserA sends question to UserB 2) UserB receives message and consults browser/editor/etc. to answer question. 3) UserB sends answer to UserA At no point during this exchange does UserB stop paying attention to the chat,

Re: [jdev] Clock system to fallow discussion

2005-09-05 Thread Trejkaz
On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 22:56, Hal Rottenberg wrote: On 9/5/05, Trejkaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, it would be better to use message IDs than timestamps. Those demos highlight the problem reasonably well: when you have multiple messages at the same time and someone replies to one message

Re: [jdev] Clock system to fallow discussion

2005-09-05 Thread Trejkaz
Quoting Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If clients recognize the message IDs, they could also include an In-Reply-To SHIM header as described in JEP-0131 and include the message ID there. Here's the problem though. Presumably the MUC service, operating as a component, has to assign new

Re: [jdev] Clock system to fallow discussion

2005-09-04 Thread Trejkaz
Quoting Alexey Nezhdanov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There is a feature I would really like to see in jabber, it's a clock system to specify to which message you reply to. This system has been used succesfully for years in tribune like http://linuxfr.org/board/ (you need to register to post, but you can

Re: [jdev] Google Rocks - they're now fully DNS'd up!

2005-09-03 Thread Trejkaz
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Re: [jdev] Question about jep-0153 (vCard Avatars)

2005-08-31 Thread Trejkaz
Quoting Heiner Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I see the XML Schema says element 'photo' minOccurs=0, does anyone object to putting multiple photo-elements? Did Peter omit maxOccurs intentionally? The default value for maxOccurs is 1. So yes, the schema objects to putting multiple photo elements,

Re: [jdev] Cancelling an iq query

2005-08-29 Thread Trejkaz
suppose we need some kind of iq type='cancel'/ where you pass the same ID of the query you want to cancel... TX -- Email: Trejkaz Xaoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site: http://trypticon.org/ Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 9EEB 97D7 8F7B 7977 F39F A62C

Re: [jdev] about spim techniques

2005-08-27 Thread Trejkaz
, but in general it's good to be able to receive messages from new users. Spam might, of course, come from people who managed to get on the contact list. Also, as someone else pointed out, the request to get on the contact list can itself be a spam. TX -- Email: Trejkaz Xaoza [EMAIL

Re: R: R: [jdev] about spim techniques

2005-08-27 Thread Trejkaz
then gets blacklisted, and they have to wait a whole new week to register again. If you do it with blacklists, the spam admin might just buy a new domain once a day to get around it. TX -- Email: Trejkaz Xaoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site: http://trypticon.org/ Jabber ID

Re: R: R: [jdev] about spim techniques

2005-08-27 Thread Trejkaz
in 2,000 entry forms. TX -- Email: Trejkaz Xaoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site: http://trypticon.org/ Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 9EEB 97D7 8F7B 7977 F39F A62C B8C7 BC8B 037E EA73 pgp4pQ7ezN8J7.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [jdev] Google DNS SRV records

2005-08-27 Thread Trejkaz
rocket science, though. Naturally it would be good for them to have these records to make users' life easier, but having to connect to a different IP address is something that most libraries have to implement anyway, and that goes for any protocol. :-) TX -- Email: Trejkaz Xaoza

Re: [jdev] Google DNS SRV records

2005-08-27 Thread Trejkaz
records exist or not. If the user specifies both the host and the port, you shouldn't need to hit DNS at all. TX -- Email: Trejkaz Xaoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site: http://trypticon.org/ Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 9EEB 97D7 8F7B 7977 F39F

Re: [jdev] Re: Google DNS SRV records

2005-08-27 Thread Trejkaz
of course have a SOCKS server built-in, but implementing SOCKS in a Jabber client is a much more daunting task. The real solution, I guess, is convincing work to open outbound ports 5222-5223. TX -- Email: Trejkaz Xaoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site: http://trypticon.org

Re: [jdev] Re: Google DNS SRV records

2005-08-27 Thread Trejkaz
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Re: [jdev] jabber @ google talk ?

2005-08-24 Thread Trejkaz
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Re: [jdev] jabber @ google talk ?

2005-08-24 Thread Trejkaz
Quoting Fabio Forno [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hope this is not their solution. A network of trust could work (actually CAcert is a network of trust, if I got it) since no server admin would be Aunt Tillie ;) CAcert is a network of trust, but trust of identity. I might be 100% certain that a spammer

Re: [jdev] jabber @ google talk ?

2005-08-24 Thread Trejkaz
Quoting Sander Devrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hehe, maybe it is now the chance for me to tell them about the stable s2s in ejabberd. I guess they would love the clustering support (and Publish-Subscribe maybe also)! :-D Well, one has to assume that Google's server solution can already cluster

Re: [jdev] Re: Definition of XMPP v0.0

2005-08-20 Thread Trejkaz
On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 15:35, Vinod Panicker wrote: Any thoughts on this anyone? Try xmpp-wg perhaps? Most people here aren't interested in defining a protocol version which doesn't exist. TX -- Email: Trejkaz Xaoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site: http://trypticon.org

Re: [jdev] How to write a jabber component ?

2005-08-18 Thread Trejkaz
Quoting Samuel Goto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, I am writing a new jabber component, and I was wondering if anyone would have a good start point for writing it ... I read the jabber component protocol, so I acctually need help on coding ( like using libraries, tutorials, documents, sockets,

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