Dave, generally Cat5 and automotive cable is insulated with PVC. PVC is
flammable, burns readily creating copious amounts of thick, toxic smoke
rendering it virtually impossible for pilots to see their flight instruments
or BREATHE.
I would strongly suggest you use aircraft quality wire (Tefzel)
On 12/2/2011 10:58 AM, Dave_A wrote:
> The reason I said 58U is that (From what I'd seen online) 58 U foam-core
> has some of the lowest attenuation of the 'common' cable types (1.7db,
> IIRC)
>
I don't disagree with you. I've used it with great results, as have
many people over the years.
On 12/2/2011 7:14 PM, Matt Elder wrote:
> On 12/2/2011 9:32 AM, Glenn Martin wrote:
>> Not RG-58. Too lossy. Use RG-8X instead.
> You say too lossy. At the frequencies we run at, what's the difference
> in attenuation?
>
> ___
> Search the KRnet Archives at
> They are available through the EAA.
> Larry Flesner
I looked up the author in question on Google Books, and his books are on
there, too...
Which is nice for someone like me, who is in a place that has no
reliable mail service.
On 12/2/2011 8:44 AM, Matt Elder wrote:
> On 12/2/2011 9:32 AM, Glenn Martin wrote:
>> Not RG-58. Too lossy. Use RG-8X instead.
> You say too lossy. At the frequencies we run at, what's the difference
> in attenuation?
>
> ___
> Search the KRnet Archives at
On 12/2/2011 9:32 AM, Glenn Martin wrote:
> Not RG-58. Too lossy. Use RG-8X instead.
You say too lossy. At the frequencies we run at, what's the difference
in attenuation?
On 12/2/2011 3:08 AM, Dave_A wrote:
> I'm assuming RG58/U for antenna wire...
>
> ___
>
Not RG-58. Too lossy. Use RG-8X instead.
--
Glenn Martin,
KR2 N1333A,
Biloxi, MS
On 12/2/2011 4:08 AM, Dave_A wrote:
> Is there any real advantage to teflon-coated aircraft wire over more
> common twisted-pair varieties?
Well, it won't make a highly poisonous gas when it burns... And it
doesn't like to/won't burn in air (read self-extinguishing). A good
thing if you have
I second that. Also I think everyone should own a copy of Aeroelectric
Connection. Go to http://www.aeroelectric.com/ and buy the book.
There is a great deal of information on his site, but the book is priceless.
Matt
> +++
>
> When
>
>
> I used Tefzel everywhere I could.
>Yes, there is a lot of 22ga wire used, to cut down on weight where heavier
>wire is not needed. When in doubt, I always used the heavier ga wire.
>Daniel R. Heath
+++
When in doubt, consult your
Dave,
Seems like you know what you need to use. I used Tefzel everywhere I could.
Yes, there is a lot of 22ga wire used, to cut down on weight where heavier
wire is not needed. When in doubt, I always used the heavier ga wire.
See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics
See you
What do you guys use for your electrical wiring between instruments and
such?
Most of the photos I've seen show wire that's quite thin (makes sense
for weight savings) - on the order of phone-jack wire or Cat5
I'm assuming RG58/U for antenna wire...
Is there any issue with using Cat5
As a KRnet list member recently reported: No more Panel Diving.
I cut my forward deck in two about 16 inches aft of the firewall. Now I
have wide-open access to the back of the panel, master cylinders, batteries,
wiring, etc. I can now fix the three wiring glitches standing flat-footed
on the
Keep the Smoke inside the wires. If it gets out, OOO,OOO, Virg
On 12/26/2010 7:45 PM, smwood wrote:
>
> Per Larry Flesner's advice, lots of wiring diagrams and notes for each
> instrument, radio and connector. Every end of every wire is documented and
> double checked. Expect first panel
Wiring the instrument panel on my KR-2 is almost done. The panel is a Rand
factory unit with panel and forward deck as one single piece. The panel and
forward deck is screwed in place and
removable as need be for annual condition inspection and possible future
mods. The GPS antenna is mounted
WOW Great Thanks to Jon Finley for the link to AeroElectric Connection...
This is definitely a KEEPER.
Joe. E. Wallace
jwallace...@gmail.com
On Oct 29, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Jon Finley wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I hope everyone is familiar with the AeroElectric Connection and Bob Nuckolls
stem fault that causes an emergency.
[http://www.aeroelectric.com] http://www.aeroelectric.com
Jon Finley
-Original Message-
From: "Larry Flesner" <fles...@frontier.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 3:00pm
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Subject: Re: KR> In
At 08:37 AM 10/29/2010, you wrote:
>This wire goes from this terminal here to the
>terminal over there. I can do that. Ok, leave enough slack to make a
>bundle for support. Run the next wire along the length of the first wire.
>Next thing I realize, hey I'm wiring the panel.
>Sid Wood
I have started wiring on my KR-2 instrument panel. I have had some
experience on this sort of thing, but that was many years ago. Looking at
all the schematics for all the gadgets and switches with wires running every
which way was daunting to say the least. Truth be known, I found other
Hi all,
I'm starting to build the instrument panel.
Of course, there are always questions that pops up, where the answer is
dependant on a lot of variables. I plan to build the panel from 3mm (might
be 2.8, I'm not sure) plywood, and I need to know what thickness is required
to ensure the panel
Mark Langford
*I read your 'e' about the type IV VW engines. Where you suggest I start
looking for them and are they a VW engine or a Porshe engine?*
And, what would you expect to pay for one?
Marty Martin
NetHeads,
The discussion on instrument panels is rather timely to me, as I just
designed a new one for my airplane. The main driver is the change from my
now defunct Terra TRT-250 to a more reliable Becker (fine German stuff) ATC
4401-175, which conveniently fits into a standard 2.25"
Last night I wrote that the Motion Computing LS-800 was daylight readable.
After seeing one in person in my cockpit today, I'd have to say that's
debatable, and this is the "view anywhere" version. The guy's I borrowed
uses it in his wide open Swift, and says "it works for me". In direct sun
or
At 01:35 PM 9/16/2006, you wrote:
>In direct sun
>or shaded from direct sun it is visible, but not as visible as I'd hoped.
>Still, it fits my panel perfectly, so I may go for it anyway.
+++
Sounds like you may want to include a sun shade along with
...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Mark Langford
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 12:36 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> instrument panel
Last night I wrote that the Motion Computing LS-800 was daylight readable.
After seeing one in person in my cockpit today, I'd have to say that's
debata
The $2700 for the LS-800 was from here:
http://www.aviationsafety.com/ls_800.htm
-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Kevin Angus
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 5:05 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> instrument panel
Try:
I need altimeter and airspeed indicatoe overhauled. Any good shops?
--
Paul
KR2 Stretched
Derry, NH
At 04:21 PM 5/24/2006, you wrote:
>Progress is slow.I don't have any pictures of the instrument panel,because I
>don't have it together yet.
>Bob Glidden
+
Bob,
I built my panel using 12 layers of KR cloth and finished with a
layer of
Instrument panel made of .063 aluminum and holes cut with hole saws.
http://krbuilder.org/Electrical/index.html
A couple of pics from the top.
I made the one on my first KR out of luan plywood covered with a couple of
layers of glass.
See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on
à KRnet
Remis le : 25/05/2006 01:40
Pour : <kr...@mylist.net>
cc :(ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM)
Objet : KR> instrument panel
Instrument panel made of .063 aluminum and holes cut with hole saws.
http://krbuilder.org/Electrical/index.html
A couple of pic
At 03:18 AM 5/26/2006, you wrote:
>If it was to be done again, I would put the panel on shock absorbers.
>Serge Vidal
++
I shock mounted my panel with some very simple (read cheap)
shock mounts. See
3$ pice of birch ply from Home Depot. Instrument hole cut with hole saw -
tint to look like mahogany/rosewood. 4 Coats of clearcheap and easy -
looks good. Check it out on N41768...Bill
Mark,
Did you ever get your instrument rating?
Bill Zorc
Vero Beach FL 32968
Greetings all,
I wanted to get a few ideas about the instruments outside of the basic VFR
that are required that I would need.
I currently have:
Narco 810 transcever
Narco MK12 Nav/Com w/ VOR indicator
compass
VSI
Altimeter
Airspeed
I have an attitude gyro ( although I cant use it arr)
I
The future is GPS, if you plan to go to fly-ins (X-country). Lowrance 1000
can be gotten for $499.
Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
lar...@socal.rr.com
GPS for sure with a hand held back up, or two hand held. Moving map is good
and they usually give you the DG info, so you don't need DG or ADF. You
could just get the glass cockpit stuff and be done with it.
See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics
See you in Mt. Vernon -
> The future is GPS, if you plan to go to fly-ins (X-country). Lowrance
> 1000
> can be gotten for $499.
>
> Larry Severson
> Fountain Valley, CA 92708
> (714) 968-9852
> lar...@socal.rr.com
>
Actually I bought one from a place in Indiana ( I think) for $475.
Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA.
Bob Glidden
Eminence,Indiana
KR2S N181FW (building)
Corvair 110
glid...@ccrtc.com
Everything is better in Indiana,I thought you knew that Joe
> Actually I bought one from a place in Indiana ( I think) for $475.
> Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA.
> joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com
>
>
http://www.grtavionics.com/EFIS%20Flyer.pdf
larry flesner wrote:At 01:41 PM 10/4/05 -0700, you wrote:
>The future is GPS, if you plan to go to fly-ins (X-country). Lowrance 1000
>can be gotten for $499.
>
>Larry Severson
In my
In case you cannot see where Kevin is going, if both the static and pitot line
ports had pressure applied from the car slipstream, the instrument would not
read, since it reads the pressure difference between pitot and static. The
static must be free to read static only.
Colin & Bev Rainey
My last post said
I have a New ( as far as I know) Winter ( West Germany)Air Speed indicator,
that came with my KR2, it does not work, the needle seems to be free to move
but no movement when connected to a Pitot tube and placed out the window of
at car at 120kmh.
Are they worth fixing .
Who can
At 09:01 AM 12/1/2004 +1100, you wrote:
>My last post said
>I have a New ( as far as I know) Winter ( West Germany)Air Speed indicator,
>that came with my KR2, it does not work, the needle seems to be free to move
>but no movement when connected to a Pitot tube and placed out the window of
>at car
Phil,
IIRC Winters is a good name, and if you can find a instrument shop down under
to fix it it may be worth it. As opposed to some of the crap from China or else
where
Bill Higdon
> My last post said
> I have a New ( as far as I know) Winter ( West Germany)Air Speed indicator,
> that came
It sounds like the diaphram is ruptured in the ASI. There are instrument
shops here in the states that will rebuild that type of ASI for roughly
1/4 the price of a new one. If you can find a good instrument shop, they
should be able to save you a significant amount of $$ if you need an ASI.
KRnetHeads,
OK, I've gotta gloat here. Check this out...
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/040607136m.jpg or
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kpanel.html#update if you want to read a
couple of paragraphs about it. There are some wires that need to be tied
off and clamped in place, but the
I had seen the use of label machines in labeling instrument panels before
but got my first taste of it yesterday. I bought this at Office Max (or
Office Depot, heck I can't ever remember which one it is we have in town:-)
at a whole whoppin $19 yesterday.
http://rvflying.tripod.com/label.jpg
erge Vidal
KR2 ZS-WEC
-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of Dana Overall
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:36
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR>Instrument panel labeling
I had seen the use of label machines in labeling inst
>I had seen the use of label machines in labeling instrument panels before
>but got my first taste of it yesterday. I bought this at Office Max (or
>Office Depot, heck I can't ever remember which one it is we have in town:-)
>at a whole whoppin $19 yesterday.
I use a brother p-touch for all my of my labeling needs and I can tell you
this. Once they have been in place for about a month, they do not like to
come off. I got over zealous labeling a rack that I had a bunch of switches
and patch panels in that was made of aluminum. Later decided to change
In a message dated 1/29/04 7:31:52 AM Pacific Standard Time,
jwald...@guarantybankva.com writes:
> I got over zealous labeling a rack that I had a bunch of switches
> and patch panels in that was made of aluminum. Later decided to change some
> things and I had a bear of a time getting them to
In a message R.S. Hoover writes:
Try a heat gun.
I eventually did. I was just making the point that it takes a lot for them
to peel off.
J. Waldron
jwald...@guarantybankva.com
Larry wrote:
>The brand name "Electro-Tag comes to
> mind but I'm not sure
Larry, KRnet, et al:
It's a "Dymo Letra Tag". I have one I use for filing etc around the house.
Works great.
ps. I finished my airfoil conversion by securing the aft spar back in place
over the weekend. I think I have
I am manufacturing a fiber optic instrument post light for experimental
aircraft (working on a PMA and STCs for certified planes, but it may be as much
as a year before the paperwork is all done and approved). I have had a set of
them in my KR and they are working great. They light up each
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