KR> Spruce Fungus?

2015-01-15 Thread Peter Drake
Hi All I think I am qualified to comment on this one with a degree in forestry and a diploma in Timber technology! If it came from a reputable source the spruce you will be using for your KR will have been kiln dried, as long you keep the timber dry it will not get infected with fungi. There

KR> Spruce Fungus?

2015-01-15 Thread Chris Prata
net at list.krnet.org > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 22:27:19 + > Subject: Re: KR> Spruce Fungus? > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > > Hi All > I think I am qualified to comment on this one with a degree in forestry and > a diploma in Timber technology! > > If it came f

KR> Spruce Fungus?

2015-01-15 Thread Chris Kinnaman
If you buy your spruce from Wicks or Aircraft Spruce you shouldn't have any problems. Chris On 1/15/2015 12:01 PM, gluejam via KRnet wrote: > At the risk of making a fool of myself, I bet he's confusing diseases > of living trees with lumber/wood preservation and protection. > Fungus can

KR> Spruce Fungus?

2015-01-15 Thread Chris Prata
Hi All, an A friend of mine (and aluminum experimental builder), mentioned some spruce fungus issue that if not caught can be disastrous. Is this an issue with the materials, and if so how to inspect/avoid/prevent? Thanks

KR> Spruce Fungus?

2015-01-15 Thread gluejam
At the risk of making a fool of myself, I bet he's confusing diseases of living trees with lumber/wood preservation and protection. Fungus can attack most any unprotected or ignored wood or wooden product, so some sort of protection is required for longevity. Varnish was the old standby but now

KR> SPRUCE

2011-10-05 Thread Brian Coss
I need to pick out a paint scheme, where can I find lots and lots!!! pictures of completed kr2 planes? Thanks! :) On Oct 5, 2011 12:44 AM, "omotosho olalekan" wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Please I need a help, since I couldnt get materials locally I tired to contact Aircraft

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2011-10-04 Thread omotosho olalekan
Hi Folks, Please I need a help, since I couldnt get materials locally I tired to contact Aircraft Spruce for a Freight quotaion for the KR2S Spruce kits on thier website, but I want to know if the spruce kits on ACS is all I need for my KR2S or there have been changes on the plans which

KR> spruce vs other woods

2011-01-14 Thread Patrick and Robin Russo
to hand plane and sand. - Original Message - From: "David Stowers" <stowers62...@yahoo.com> To: <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 5:08 PM Subject: KR> spruce vs other woods >I was wondering if there was anyone that has used other woods for aviation

KR> spruce vs other woods

2011-01-04 Thread Tim
Spruce Goose was primarily built from Birch not SpruceEAA has info & Book's on types grades and research into different types/species for building. CldLk-Tim - Original Message - From: "Patrick and Robin Russo" Yes, I have used pine to do a

KR> spruce vs other woods

2011-01-04 Thread Patrick and Robin Russo
lt;kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 5:08 PM Subject: KR> spruce vs other woods >I was wondering if there was anyone that has used other woods for aviation >projects instead of spruce. Spruce is getting hard to obtain at reasonable >prices and there are other woo

KR> spruce vs other woods

2011-01-03 Thread Pete
Quite a few aircraft over here are being built using Hoop Pine. Cheers. Pete. Ballina. Oz, Mate. On 4/01/2011 09:08, David Stowers wrote: > I was wondering if there was anyone that has used other woods for aviation > projects instead of spruce. Spruce is getting hard to obtain at reasonable >

KR> spruce vs other woods

2011-01-03 Thread Fred Johnson
I built my entire boat section and spars from Doug fir. At the time, our shop was ordering some very high quality lumber for our trusses. so I would take my breaks and lunch look through every new unit that was opened. After about three months I was able to find quite a bit and then "acclimated

KR> spruce vs other woods

2011-01-03 Thread David Stowers
I was wondering if there was anyone that has used other woods for aviation projects instead of spruce. Spruce is getting hard to obtain at reasonable prices and there are other woods that are stronger, but a little heavier. I am looking at a larger engine so I think the weight issue could be

KR> Spruce vs Douglas Fir

2008-10-12 Thread Darren Crompton
Thanks for all the input. I have decided to go with the hoop pine which I sourced at Mathews Timber. They brought out a pack of 100 No. 1 Clears from which I selected 4 pieces of 8" x 1" x 17'. The cost was less than $3 per foot! Today I have been ripping them into lengths and then using my

KR> Spruce vs Douglas Fir

2008-10-12 Thread Darren Crompton
I am ready to order my timber and being on a very tight budget, I am seriously considering douglas fir as an alternative to spruce. The spruce kit machined and delivered from an interstate supplier (Australia) is going to cost $3,000AU ($2,365US). Douglas fir on the other hand will be about 1/2

KR> Spruce vs Douglas Fir

2008-10-12 Thread Martindale Family
: www.members.optusnet.com.au/johnjanet/Martindale.htm - Original Message - From: "Darren Crompton" <kr.2s.dar...@gmail.com> To: <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 9:37 PM Subject: KR> Spruce vs Douglas Fir >I am ready to order my timber and being

KR> Spruce vs Douglas Fir

2008-10-12 Thread Scott William
In my experience, douglas fir is about 25% heavier, but it is also stronger. Just make sure it has the proper grain count and runout, ect... Scott --- Darren Crompton wrote: > I am ready to order my timber and being on a very > tight budget, I am > seriously

KR> Spruce vs Douglas Fir

2008-10-12 Thread Steve Jacobs
I am seriously considering Douglas fir as an alternative to spruce. Hey Darren, you have a better alternate right there - hoop pine lumber and ply - same selection criteria. I have made a careful study of the known alternatives and hoop pine is no compromise at all - good

KR> Spruce vs Douglas Fir

2008-10-12 Thread Darren Crompton
The supplier I spoke to in Newcastle said that hoop pine was more brittle than fir, similar weight, same price and more difficult to get in aircraft quality. I had discounted it because of its supposed brittle nature but I do like the idea of building from an Australian timber. On 3/15/07,

KR> Spruce vs Douglas Fir

2008-10-12 Thread Dennis Mingear
Here's the "Wood Book", it should contain all the info that you need to choose a wood type for your KR. http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/fplgtr/fplgtr113/fplgtr113.htm and here is a great Australian source for info; http://www.auf.asn.au/scratchbuilder/contents.html and finally here

KR> Spruce vs Douglas Fir

2008-10-12 Thread VIRGIL N SALISBURY
Go for it, Virg On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:37:22 +1100 "Darren Crompton" writes: > I am ready to order my timber and being on a very tight budget, I am > seriously considering douglas fir as an alternative to spruce. The > spruce > kit machined and delivered from an

KR> Spruce vs Douglas Fir

2008-10-12 Thread Ron Butterfield
On 3/15/07, Darren Crompton wrote: > I am ready to order my timber and being on a very tight budget, I am > seriously considering douglas fir as an alternative to spruce. On http://krnet.org/ there is a link to the old paper KR newsletters, downloadable in pdf. Many years

KR> Spruce vs Douglas Fir

2008-10-12 Thread Dennis Mingear
Here's a PDF file that does just that, gives you a selection and test methodology for the non-certified wood that you use in your project. http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/UEP5RcRYnIYwgM31-UmspXnpzXSACpMccoQgrDp9Uu1qDMgymUiKC-4JXir34SzdezeIxQpOdzPeNtENwWQWwg/testing_wood.pdf Denny ... Ron

KR> Spruce vs Douglas Fir

2008-10-12 Thread Cláudio Holanda
check here prices and freight costs . Best regards, Claudio Holanda - Original Message - From: "Darren Crompton" <kr.2s.dar...@gmail.com> To: <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 7:37 A

KR> Spruce vs Douglas Fir

2008-10-12 Thread Russ Kendall
Lots of airplanes have been built using Douglas Fir. It's a little heavier, but also stronger than spruce. Russ - Original Message - From: "Darren Crompton" <kr.2s.dar...@gmail.com> To: <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:37 AM Subject: KR> Spruc

KR> Spruce vs Douglas Fir

2008-10-12 Thread Fred Johnson
Darren, Fir is a good choice, I have used fir for my airplane. The complete fuse without plywood weighs 22 pounds, if I had built with Spruce it would have weighed about 19 to 20 pounds. Not much difference if you ask me. Truth is, the frame of the airplane only makes up a small part of the whole

KR> Spruce vs Douglas Fir

2008-10-12 Thread bobby burington
. Russ - Original Message - From: "Darren Crompton" To: Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:37 AM Subject: KR> Spruce vs Douglas Fir > I am ready to order my timber and being on a very tight budget, I am > seriously considering douglas fir as an alternative to spruce.

KR> Spruce vs Douglas Fir

2008-10-12 Thread wilder_jeff Wilder
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KR> Spruce vs Douglas Fir

2008-10-12 Thread bobby burington
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KR> Spruce vs Douglas Fir

2008-10-12 Thread PHILLIP MATHESON
Many Aircraft in Aust are from Hoop Pine. Including my mates Corby Starlet. He was VERY happy with it. Phil Matheson SAAA Ch. 20 VH-PKR Australia EMAIL: phillipmathe...@bigpond.com KR Web Page: www.philskr2.50megs.com http://www.vw-engines.com/

KR> Spruce V Douglas Fir

2008-10-12 Thread Robin Macdonald
Net heads, There is a test rig for woods in a very early KR newsletter. About # 10 or something like that Robin. r.macdon...@clear.net.nz

KR> Spruce V Douglas Fir

2008-10-12 Thread Ron Freiberger
Aircraft wood starts with the logging process. The tree must be felled so that there are no induced cracks in the wood. There's a lot of issues with aircraft wood, and a lot more than ring counts and linear runout. The wood has to be treated right throughout the ENTIRE process. One way to know

KR> Spruce V Douglas Fir

2008-10-12 Thread Sheena Toor
o: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:24 PM Subject: RE: KR> Spruce V Douglas Fir > Aircraft wood starts with the logging process. The tree must be felled > so that there are no induced cracks in the wood. There's a lot of > issues with aircraft wood

KR> Spruce V Douglas Fir

2008-10-12 Thread patric...@usfamily.net
I bought my wood from a boat building company,(Sitka Spruce) and my douglas fir came from a old house that was being torn down Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN If you could read this, thank a teacher If you read it in English, thank a veteran --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! --

KR> spruce to start the fuselage

2008-10-12 Thread troy Mcgrew
I am eager to start building the sides of the fuselage and called wicks to see what spruce I would need out of the spruce kit and they didn't know. This is the first on the list, would this do it for the sides? KR200-017 5/8X5/8X12' SPRUCE 6 EA KR200-019 5/8X5/8X120'RAN SPRUCE 1 EA

KR> spruce to start the fuselage

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Jones
; Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 6:24 PM Subject: KR> spruce to start the fuselage > I am eager to start building the sides of the fuselage and called wicks to > see what spruce I would need out of the spruce kit and they didn't know. > > > This is the first on the list, would t

KR> spruce to start the fuselage

2008-10-12 Thread skp...@charter.net
If you are building a KR2S you might want to change four of the 12' lengths to 14'. Steven Phillabaum KR2S; 5048; corvair; Auburn, Alabama troy Mcgrew wrote: > I am eager to start building the sides of the fuselage and called wicks to > see what spruce I would

KR> spruce to start the fuselage

2008-10-12 Thread Martindale Family
Troy There is a complete list of spruce requirements listed at the back of your registered plans. John - Original Message - From: "troy Mcgrew" <temcg...@hotmail.com> To: <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:24 AM Subject: KR> spruce to s

KR> Spruce order

2008-10-12 Thread John Bavington
Hi All, After having recieved the plans, and after reading the manual through - twice - I still can't find a breakdown of what timber is required. I am hoping to order it through an Australian supplier, but can't work out exactly what I neeed to get. Does such a list exist? If so: where? I'm

KR> Spruce order

2008-10-12 Thread boeing757me...@aol.com
There should have been a list with your plans. If not give me you address and I will mail you a copy if I can find it. Are you building a KR2 or a 2s? Chris Theroux Gilbert, AZ

KR> Spruce order

2008-10-12 Thread Dean Cooper
John wrote: > After having recieved the plans, and after reading the manual through - twice - I still can't find a breakdown of what timber is required. John, Here is what I found in last years Wicks catalog. The new catalog I got at the gathering didn't have the breakout. I think this is

KR> Spruce order

2008-10-12 Thread John Bavington
Chris, I'm building a KR2S. As I'm the second owner of the project it is possiblr that the list was lost along the way, or sent to a supplier for a quote. Email address is bavington at gmail.com Thanks, John. On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 19:56:55 -0400, Dean Cooper wrote: >

KR> Spruce order

2008-10-12 Thread GavinandLouise
I didn't get a list with mine either John. Gav - Original Message - , > I'm building a KR2S. > As I'm the second owner of the project it is possiblr that the list > was lost along the way, or sent to a

KR> Spruce order

2008-10-12 Thread Phillip Matheson
Gav Send me a fax Number and I'll send it to you also see new email Phillip Matheson mathe...@dodo.com.au Australia VH PKR See our engines and kits at. http://www.vw-engines.com/ http://www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ See my KR Construction web page at

KR> Spruce

2008-10-12 Thread Phillip Matheson
I just had a idea about your timber lengths, Some builders have cut the Longerons and rejoined them.When extending ther KR's Would this be an option and ship shorter lengths of wood.??? Phil Matheson mathe...@dodo.com.au Australia 61 3 58833588 See our VW Engines and home built Parts and Kits

KR> Spruce

2008-10-12 Thread Phillip Matheson
Sorry that was not meant to be posted on the net Phil Matheson mathe...@dodo.com.au Australia 61 3 58833588 See our VW Engines and home built Parts and Kits at: http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com

KR>Spruce Order

2008-10-12 Thread skp...@charter.net
Before I order my spruce I want to know if anyone has a name of a contact at Aircraft Spruce. He, She would be familar with the KR. I plan on driving to pick up my order and talk face to face. (I live less than two hours away.)

KR>Spruce Order

2008-10-12 Thread boeing757me...@aol.com
>Before I order my spruce I want to know if anyone has a name of a contact at Aircraft Spruce. Good luck! I have had so many problems with Aircraft Spruce I will never order from them again unless they are the only place I can find what I need. The last run in I had with them was over some

KR>Spruce Order

2008-10-12 Thread Ross Youngblood
I don't know if you can find anyone at ACS familiar with the KR. What is your question. The founder of Wicks Aircraft built one of the first KR kits.. but that is the founder. The employees of these places are usually regular non-kit building people I have found. You might find a KRnetter who

KR>Spruce Order

2008-10-12 Thread joe
may not have this type of access with somebody else. - Original Message - From: <boeing757me...@aol.com> To: <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 11:01 AM Subject: Re: KR>Spruce Order > >Before I order my spruce I want to know if anyone has a name of a

KR>Spruce Order

2008-10-12 Thread boeing757me...@aol.com
In a message dated 3/4/2004 3:12:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time, feg...@earthlink.net writes: Think about it. Their are only so many sources for KR speciality made parts. We could try to force one out of business. Well, it you lost 30 dollars on every order would you order from them again

KR>Spruce Order

2008-10-12 Thread joe
2004 2:17 PM Subject: Re: KR>Spruce Order > In a message dated 3/4/2004 3:12:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > feg...@earthlink.net writes: > Think about it. > >Their are only so many sources for KR speciality made > parts. We could try to force one out of business. > W

KR>Spruce Order

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Jones
- Original Message - From: > Good luck! > > I have had so many problems with Aircraft Spruce I will never order from them > again unless they are the only place I can find what I need. Amen to that. Today I received a RAC trim system from AS and it did not

KR>spruce order thanx

2008-10-12 Thread skp...@charter.net
Thanks for the replies of the spruce order question. I saw a lot of complaints so that is why I asked for a person to person contact. Does not seem to be one. As far as time to ship. That is why I want to drive to pick up. I personally purchased a "PILOT" headset as a back up from Aircraft

KR>Spruce Order

2008-10-12 Thread intrepid...@juno.com
> "Mark Jones" writes: > Today I received a RAC trim system from AS and it > did not include the LED position indicator as they represent > that it does. I ordered the T4-5 model and when I received it, > the instructions states that the T4-5 servo has no compatible > position

KR>Spruce Order

2008-10-12 Thread Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff
ursday, March 04, 2004 4:54 PM Subject: Re: KR>Spruce Order > > - Original Message - > From: <boeing757me...@aol.com> > > Good luck! > > > > I have had so many problems with Aircraft Spruce I will never order from > them > > again unless they a

KR>Spruce Order

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Jones
-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html - Original Message - From: "Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff" <c.midk...@verizon.net> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:02 PM Subject: Re: KR&g

KR>Spruce Order

2008-10-12 Thread Mac McConnell-Wood
! RegardsMac McConnell-Wood G-BVZJ Hampshire , England, UK- Original Message - From: <intrepid...@juno.com> To: <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 3:43 AM Subject: Re: KR>Spruce Order > > "Mark Jones" <flyk...@wi.rr.com> writes: &

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2008-10-12 Thread larry severson
They have a KR2 hanging from the ceiling! However, the spruce is cut to order. You will have to go back in 7-14 days. >Before I order my spruce I want to know if anyone has a name of a contact >at Aircraft Spruce. He, She would be familar with the KR. I plan on >driving to pick up my order

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2008-10-12 Thread larry severson
>They have a KR2 hanging from the ceiling! Sorry, that is at the Corona store. Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 lar...@socal.rr.com

KR>spruce list posted!

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
NetHeads, Bernie Wunder heeded the call, and sent me a list of Spruce for the KR2 that he got from Wicks. You might need to check against differences in the S if you're going to build an S, but the only place I can think would be different would be the length of the vertical stabilizer and