Re: [lace] Lacemaking machines

went back to the > 1600's -- I find that hard to believe in hindsight), including ones still > working. I have a really lovely shawl knit on one of those machines; quite > a few other Arachnids bought knitted items. Brenda Paternoster paternos...@appleshack.com www.brendapaternoster.co.

Re: [lace] Linen thread

t on linen in this weight, I'd shop in Europe, as Etsy's Provolace doesn't have anything remotely close. Sorry about that. Brenda Paternoster paternos...@appleshack.com www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsub

Re: [lace] Thread puzzle

Hi Lorri Moravia 40/2 linen = 2S - 22 w/cm. I measured Fresia 50/2 exactly the same. Moravia 40/2 metallic = wrapped thread - 20 w/cm. I measured Texlen Titano exactly he same, and both are/were Czech threads so may actually have been the same thread differently branded. Moravia 80/2 is a metal

Re: [lace] re Find my past "free" ancestry site

With Ancestry ,Find My Past, The Genealogist and any other websites with census transcriptions you can report transcription errors (and there were plenty of them down to poor handwriting, transcription by non-native/non-local people and general lack of palaeography skills) but if they have chosen

Re: [lace] census records and definitions

The problem is that the time spent turning or whittling bobbins was very much less than the time spent using them. Then, as now, bobbins could be passed on for generations and still be functional. By the 1920s lacemaking was a dying skill but in the mid 19th century a lot of the female population

Re: [lace] Lizbeth thread

Hi Karen > Can anyone tell me the wpc of Lizbeth sizes 10, 20 and 40 and the grid > sizes I would need to use for each of them. Handy Hands Lizbeth: 10 = 13 w/cm - 5mm grid 20 = 17 w/cm - between 3mm-4mm grid 40 = 20 w/cm - 3mm grid Brenda in Allhallows paternos...@appleshack.com www.brendap

Re: [lace] Bedfordshire lace

Tanne/cotona is designed as a machine embroidery thread and like all machine threads it has a Z twist to suit the way sewing machines work. If it causes problems with the way you personally work BL the solution is to try and find S twisted thread; most linens, cotton perle, cotton a broder etc. W

Re: [lace] Bedfordshire lace

Hi Susan 'Tatting thread' is DMC Special Dentelles 80 which is identical to Cordonnet 80 which is only a tiny smidgin finer than Cordonnet 70 - so in effect you did use tatting thread. The gimp thread in traditional Bedfordshire lace is a softer but round thread, the difference in thickness to th

[lace] DMC Natura Just cotton

Thank you to Beth for sending me a sample of DMC Natura Just cotton. I have measured it as 2s/8S 5 wraps/cm So it is the ‘Just Cotton’ version of Natura which I had seen before. >From Ravelry and the (not very helpful) DMC website I have deduced that this is more or less a 4 ply knitting yar

Re: [lace] Re: Aurifil Mako 80

Egyptian 80/2 = 50 w/cm Egyptian 80/3 = 35 w/cm Aurifil 80 = 43 w/cm So a little finer than Egyptian 80/3 and a little thicker than Egyptian 80/2 Brenda > > Not sure where this fits but in Ulrike’s recent publication Hearts, she uses it as Egyptian cotton80 equals aurifil 80. > Dianne > > > Br

[lace] Re: Aurifil Mako 80

I have recently received a sample of this thread - thank you Magda - and I have measured it as 2Z - 43 wraps/cm Brenda >> >> Hi Brenda! Have you examined this thread? Sincerely, Susan Hottle >> > Brenda in Allhallows paternos...@appleshack.com www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe sen

Re: [lace] Mystery thread

FFR is a brand name - Filature et Filteries Reunies - based in Aalst, Belgium. https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.ethesis.net/a alst_textiel/deel_I/aalst_textiel_deel_I_2_g.htm&prev=search

Re: [lace] Guttermans Threads

There are lots of different threads made by Gütermann. The cotton threads and the silk threads are fine for lacemaking so long as the thickness is suitable for your pricking (though most are Z twist to suit sewing machines and a few lacemakers really prefer S twist thread on bobbins). The polye

Re: [lace] wool replacement

Hi Sue If looking at wool yarn I reckon that a general rule of thumb is: I ply cobweb = 14-15 w/cm 2 ply lace = 9-10 w/cm 3 ply baby = 8 w/cm 4 ply/fingering = 7 w/cm DK = 6 w/cm Aran = 5 w/cm I have measured DMC Natura as 2S/8S - 5 w/cm which would equate with Aran weight knitting yarn, BUT on l

Re: [lace] Faery Lace?

I have been following this thread about the loss of very fine flax with interest. I know that about ten years ago Bart & Francis in Belgium were looking into the possibility of producing fine linen thread again, and Francis Busschaert kindly sent me a sample of 130/2 NeL linen. His comments at th

Re: [lace] Help needed

If you are struggling to grasp the thread try using a mini latch hook. Hemline sell them as snag repair tools. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hemline-H248-Miniature-Latch-Repair/dp/B002TYE4GQ Brenda > I've lost some of my manu

[lace] Re: Aurifil Mako 80

Sorry, I came to this thread late but no, I haven’t seen it yet. Brenda > On 23 Aug 2018, at 21:44, Susan wrote: > > Hi Brenda! Have you examined this thread? Sincerely, Susan Hottle > > Sent from my iPad Brenda in Allhallows paternos...@appleshack.com www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To uns

Re: [lace] Thread hunt

PS, I got that wrong! My apologies. Too late at night here. Wrapped threads are the ones which are more prone to shredding, the bound ones are usually a bit more resilient. Brenda > On 4 Aug 2018, at 23:07, Susan wrote: > > Got it—thanks Brenda! Doesn’t look favorable for Rosaline. L

Re: [lace] Thread hunt

Hi Susan A wrapped metallic thread is one where the fibre core is smoothly wrapped with a flat,narrow sliver of metallic foil. A bound thread is one where the fibres and metallic slivers are held together by very fine nylon or polyester filaments wrapped around them. Usually one going clockwise a

Re: [lace] Thread info

Hi Lorri It sounds as though it’s C&F linen, which I don’t think is made any more. Yellow labels and came in sizes 30, 50, 60, 80, 90, 100, 120 and 140. All 2 ply Size 100 measured 34 w/cm Brenda > > I acquired a box of 6 spools of Linen thread. The box is labeled "C&F > Handicraft Supp

Re: [lace] computer programmers and lace

I’m not a computer programmer, just a computer user, but I’ve used drawing programs to manipulate straight grid laces (torchon) into curved shapes since the mid 1980s - IIRC it was 1984 when I first played around like that. For some early examples of what I could do, and the hardware/software

Re: [lace] The veil

TV commentary said that it is embroidered with the national flower from each Commonwealth country. 53 of them. Brenda > > What do we know about the lace veil? Brenda in Allhallows paternos...@appleshack.com www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com contai

[lace] Lace Revival

I first became aware of bobbin lace in 1975. It had been a bad time for me having had two miscarriages in the first half of the year and I had a strong urge to do something creative; if I couldn’t make another baby then it would have to be something else. That August, to commemorate the Battle

Re: [lace] Aurifil 80

I haven’t seen any Aurifil 80, but from looking at the size ranges of other 2Z threads Aurifil seems to be nearer to DMC Machine Broder which is slightly finer than Egyptian gassed and Madeira Tanne/cotona. The w/cm will *probably* be in the mid 50s. The finer the thread the less difference a w

Re: [lace] Irish Lace Pattern

This http://www.emblibrary.com/EL/Products.aspx?Catalog=Emblibrary&ProductID=C9855 would adapt to a braid lace. Brenda in Allhallows paternos...@appleshack.com www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email

Re: [lace] Irish Lace Pattern

Some years ago Jean Leader published a set of UK national motifs which included a shamrock. OOP on Jeans website https://www.jeanleader.net/publications/thistlemotifs.html but it looks as though Barbara Fay still has it in stock. http://

Re: [lace] Question about early English lace

What Thomas Wright actually wrote is ‘ "…bone-lace it is named, because first made with bone (since wooden) bobbins.” In the wardrobe accounts of Queen Elizabeth’s day the terms “bone lace” (which was made with a fine thread) and “bobbin lace” (which was made with a coarser thread)

[lace] Threads for Lace book

Dear Spiders After a long wait I’m pleased to tell you all that I expect to be collecting Edition 7 from the printers tomorrow. All the info is at: http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/threads/threads.html I would like to take this opportunity thank all the lacemakers around the world who have h

Re: [lace] Walter Evans and Co.'s Mecklenburg thread No. 20

It depends what sort of lace you are planning to make. If it’s Torchon then 12 wraps of the thread should fit between two foot-edge pinholes. If it’s a point ground it’s 10 wraps. The wraps should be close together but not overlapping. For Bedfordshire or any braid lace then it’s a comb

Re: [lace] Walter Evans and Co.'s Mecklenburg thread No. 20

My guess is that you are probably looking at a 2 ply cotton thread. IF it was cotton and 2-ply then in theory at least it would compare with coton perle/pearl cotton All the different brands of perle are fairly similar in thickness for each size. DMC, Mez and Madeira come/came as thick as size 3

Re: [lace] Walter Evans and Co.'s Mecklenburg thread No. 20

survey and > comparison of 1800 Lacemaking and other threads by Brenda Paternoster. There > is no IBSN as the book is self published. Have a look at;- > http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/threads/add5.html Also, Brenda herself > is very approachable. > > If you cannot get a

Re: [lace] Threading needles

Most sewing machine needles do have the flat side on the shank to correctly align the needle in the machine (some industrial machine needles are round) but also machine needles have a groove down the front (rounded side of the shank) to accommodate the thread as the needle pierces the fabric. The

Re: [lace] Threading needles

I don’t think it’s that a needle eye is ‘designed’ to be threaded from one side; rather it’s just that the way needles are made. The hole for the eye is punched out of the metal and it has to be done from one side, then despite all the polishing and finishing that takes place it still re

Re: [lace] Block pillow question

> > I still don't see why you think half blocks are purely spacers, Another reason for using half and quarter blocks is to get a corner entirely on a full block. The wider the edging the bigger the corner will be and the more difficult it can be to get it positioned entirely on a block. The full

Re: [lace] Aurefil 50

Hi Ann It’s a long staple Egyptian cotton thread. 2Z-42 w/cm Yes, you can substitute it for DMC Broder machine (Retors or Brilliante) 50 but you can’t substitute it for DMC Cordonnet 50 or DMC Coton a Broder 50. Brenda > Can someone tell me what Aurefil 50 is please and can it be substitute

Re: [lace] Lace tells

> In both of Beth’s messages the URL became split over two lines. Maybe reposting it from a different system will keep it intact. http://torch.ox.ac.uk/themes/tellings-reconstructing-repertoire-songs-used-en glish-lace-schools

Re: [lace] Aurifil 80

I agree that the finer a thread is the harder it is to wrap consistently and thus get an accurate wrap (to your tension). The good news is that the finer the thread the less difference a couple of wraps make. The difference between, say, a 20 w/cm thread and a 22 w/cm is noticeable, but the differ

Re: [lace] Aurifil 80

I haven’t seen 80 wt Aurifil, but judging from the thicknesses of the other sizes the size 80 wt will be very fine. Brenda > > Sorry if I'm a bit of a bore, I remember there was a discussion on this thread, could someone please tell me its equivalents or its wpi, please. > > I have just used the

Re: [lace] metallic equivalent?

That would be the Moravia Fine glitter, listed as 80/2 and is immediately after Moravia Metallic 40/2 and 60/2 (Page 84 in Edition 6). 29 w/cm It’s listed separately because it’s a twisted thread, the Metallic is a wrapped thread. Brenda > On 6 Oct 2017, at 01:21, Marianne Gallant wrote: >

Re: [lace] Logarithmic lace

Hi Susan I’m fairly sure I’ve got that book somewhere but it’s not on the shelf I expected to find it! The logarithmic lace which I did a while ago was a combination of theory and winging it when it came to choosing the thread. Theory wise go for the mid-range, but err towards thicker rath

[lace] Accented Characters

Further to the conversation about italics on the old Arachne server it appears that Jeri Ames has more problems than most of us. If I post words like Gütermann, Perlé, Alençon, Tønder and Cantù some people get them correctly and can return them to me correctly. Others like Jeri receive (and

Re: [lace] Testing whether Italics will process on Arachne's Old Server

Same window comes up from the symbol on the bar right at the top, near the time/clock and sound icon. Brenda > On 8 Jun 2017, at 22:27, Adele Shaak wrote: > > he character viewer; for anybody else who has a Mac and didn’t know it was there, it’s under Edit in Mail (and in the Finder, too) b

Re: [lace] Testing whether Italics will process on Arachne's Old Server

The alt codes worked but the asterisks, and underline didn’t. I’m in UK using Mail on a Mac. Does the ü in Gütermann and the é in Perlé translate correctly? I accessed them using the Character viewer which I think all Mac computrs have. Brenda > > I'm wondering, if I use alt-codes, if ot

Re: [lace] Testing whether Italics will process on Arachne's Old Server

It was the same for me. > > Quotation marks came through but italics, bold type, italics & bold type together, and underline all came through as normal type! Brenda in Allhallows paternos...@appleshack.com www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containin

Re: [lace] Lier Lace??

Lier is tamboured lace named after the town of the same name in Belgium. Some of the images in the Pinterest link quoted earlier are needle embroidered laces, not tambouring. I’ve put a short bit about Lier, and a link to working tambour lace onto my website http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/l

Re: [lace] Colour in lace

> I am making a bookmark from Technique of Bobbinlace. For anyone that has the > book it is decoration b on page 46 and I would like to make it in white with > the three outlined motifs in blue. I have never used colour before and would > like some help from anyone who can tell me how to change fr

Re: [lace] Idrija brand lace thread WPC

Idrija is a type of lace (originating in the town of Idrija, now in Slovenia) not a brand of thread. A lot of patterns do suggest using Idrija thread; in the sense of using thread similar to that traditionally used in In Idrija and they probably mean Coats Cipke Mojka Sukanac za Klekljanje Idrija

Re: [lace] Thread question

Hi Susan It sounds as though it might the same as Presencia El Molino - a 7 stranded rayon embroidery thread, on a spool rather than in a skein, each of the strands being singles yarn. Presencia El Molono: 1S/7Z - 11 w/cm. single strand 1S - 23 w/cm Rayon is a very soft thread, not a lot of ‘b

Re: [lace] Arachne Handbook etc

> > The 'problem' I have is that the hyperlink to the flickr page brings up an > attached photograph of a young man at a table with several pots of yoghurt on > it - Like others the link works properly for me, in UK. Could the reason for the link not working properly be that the browser needs refr

Re: [lace] Self publishing

> Can British lacemakers who have self published recommend a good web > site, please? > What sort of website? Brenda in Allhallows paternos...@appleshack.com www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.her

Re: [lace] Genealogist?

A quick look at ancestry.co.uk and findmypast.co.uk confirms the UK part. Convicted at Bedford Assizes summer 1831 for Housebreaking he was initially sentenced to death, commuted to transportation for life. LDS Family Search shows that he was bo

Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain." -Dolly Parton > > Sent from BlueMail <http://www.bluemail.me/r> > > On 14 Nov 2016, at 8:15 PM, Brenda Paternoster mailto:paternos...@appleshack.com>> wrote: > >> We live in a single stor

Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

> We live in a single story house, with no attic or basement. > > What is the best way to keep moisture in the thread? Is there a device that i > can keep with the thread when it has been property prepared for storage? > > At my last resort, i can put a small cabinet in the bathroom too keep the >

Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

> > I would like to start buying some linen thread as i really like the texture and the while concept of a fiber that you can grow (other than cotton and the likes). I do know that linen threads store really well, but are difficult to store. Like any textile fibre linen is best stored in the dark.

Re: [lace] Linen thread

> I seem to remember many years ago reading that the cultivars of flax that made the finest threads were deliberately destroyed during the French Revolution, along with any saved seeds. However, all may not be lost! Flax is a diploid plant with perfect flowers, an inbreeding system, and an annual h

Re: [lace] Linen Thread

>> The size of >> the linen is size 50, 60, and 70. The brand is Campbell' s made in Ireland. >> What type of lace would you recommend for this linen I also acquired a few >> skeins of linen years ago 6 skeins size 60 thread W. J. Knox LTP LC on the >> label and 3 size 20 with the same maker. Wh

Re: [lace] Lace eye candy, salt water, wet cleaning unique laces, conservation

> > Some of you know that many 20th C. > sequins were made of gelatin. They, also, melt away in liquids. This > means: if you buy vintage sequins, test them in water before attaching to > lace. Gelatine sequins will dissolve in perspiration! I have heard a sorry tale about a dress with a

Re: [lace] Danish 'Little Hearts'

sted in 'Threads for Lace'. > What is the w/cm for it? What can I get that is a substitute for that? > > TIA Lorri > > > From: Brenda Paternoster mailto:paternos...@appleshack.com>> > Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2016 1:51 PM > To: Lorri Ferguson > Cc: Arac

Re: [lace] Danish 'Little Hearts'

100 Traditional Bobbin Lace Patterns - Geraldine Stott and Bridget Cook - Batsford 1980 Page 4 Technique of Tonder Lace - Inge Skovgaard - Batsford 1991 - page 56 and probably several others. I used it for my daughter’s wedding garter http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/weddings/lucywedding/l

Re: [lace] Dividing pins help

Sewing needles are designed to snap, pins are designed to bend. So it depends on whether you would prefer a mistreated divider to bend or to snap, and choose an appropriate item for the shank. Epoxy resin (Araldite) would be my choice for glue, but that does make it necessary to find some way of s

Re: [lace] [Superior Threads Newsletter] We LOVE Silk Threads! Save 25% on Kimono Silk

I haven’t used it but I have measured it, 2S- 50 wraps/cm so the sort of thickness you might use for Point Ground lace. Brenda > On 25 Aug 2016, at 23:48, Sue Babbs wrote: > > Has anyone tried using this silk thread for lacemaking or sewing? I have > just been sent their newsletter and see t

Re: [lace] working with a bolster pillow

> > She recently was in Slovenia and took lessons there. She reports that the > bobbins must be wound left-handed (backwards to us right-handed people). > Also, the thread does not stay well unless the bobbins are wound full. > When I was teaching the one thing I did try to insist on was that stud

Re: [lace] Survey Request

My answers are 3C and 2B Brenda in Allhallows paternos...@appleshack.com www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/ph

Re: [lace] Marlitt thread

Hi Miriam Anchor Marlitt is a four strand viscose rayon embroidery floss. The complete thread I have measured as 10 w/cm - similar to most six stranded cotton embroidery threads but a single strand is 20 w/cm - thicker than a single strand of stranded cotton and quite a lot thicker than most visco

Re: [lace] DMC Precious Metal Effects Question

Hello Helen It’s this http://www.dmccreative.co.uk/Products/Needlework-Threads/Embroidery-Threads/L ight-Effects.aspx and is listed in Threads for Lace as DMC Special Effects Mouline. Page 78 in Ed

Re: [lace] Category for Tenerife or Ruedas

It’s not embroidered net. Wheel lace or sol lace, or the specific type such as Nanduti or Tenerife Brenda > On 30 Jun 2016, at 16:54, Devon Thein wrote: > > What category would you ascribe if you were cataloging a piece of Tenerife > lace or Spanish Ruedas? Under what words would you look for

Re: [lace] Chantilly lace: Grenadine d'Alais

> On 11 Jun 2016, at 15:12, Nathalie wrote: > > Thank you for the interesting reaction on my question on Grenadine > d'Alais, the silk for Chantilly lace. > The meaning of Alais became clear but what is Grenadine? > > Does anyone know what Grenadine means? > Wikipedia says it’s from the french â

Re: [lace] Point d'Esprit

> On 11 Jun 2016, at 15:13, Nathalie wrote: > > What is the meaning of Point d’Esprit? A square BL tally Tulle fabric with small dots (tallies) all over it. Brenda in Allhallows paternos...@appleshack.com www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com contain

Re: [lace] I need a "Biblical Quotation" bobbin picture ... please.

Hello Brian > > Yes I have hundreds of bobbins illustrated but not one with a Biblical > inscription. something like "Thou shat not steal" or the myriads of other > inscriptions there are from the Bible. > I’t not inscribed but I have a bobbin with a cross carved into it. Inherited from an elder

Re: [lace] Chantilly lace: Grenadine d'Alais

> > > From other sources "grenadine d'alais" is the black silk used for Chantilly > lace. It has a loose weave and is of a dull appearance rather than shiny. Grenadine cloth is loosely woven, but the thread used for the weaving is highly twisted. >> >> Chantilly lace is made of Grenadine d'Alais.

Re: [lace] threads for "Gold & Silver Edgings"

Thank you Sue for that info. It looks as though the NeL 80/2 is what Moravia sold as “fine glitter” and the 40/2 and 60/2 are what Moravia sold as “metallic”. AFAIK Moravia never sold a 100/2 metallic. Brenda > On 8 Jun 2016, at 21:57, Sue Babbs wrote: > > The gold and silver threads listed at

Re: [lace] threads for "Gold & Silver Edgings"

Hi Susan Stephen Simpson and Atelier MB Medalfaden 40/2 are unknown to me, nor have I seen the Benton & Johnson threads. Coats/Mez/Anchor are all the same company so yes Coats Ophir and Mez Ophir are the same. (I think it’s just that they are marketed as different brands in USA and Europe, and

Re: [lace] DMC Broder Machine 50

That’s interesting. The Madeira UK website has no mention of cotton threads at all that I could find! but Barnyarns, one of the biggest embroidery/haberdashery retailers do stock cotona so it must be available. http://www.barnyarns.co.uk/cotona-tanne-cotton/

[lace] Biggins torchon patterns

Dear Spiders I have just heard that Biggins Lace now have their new website up and running which means that all their torchon patterns etc are now available again, also Sajou threads to suit those patterns. http://bigginslace.co.uk/ Brenda in Allhallows paternos...@app

Re: [lace] Lace grounds with symmetry

Hello Veronika In bobbin lace, cloth stitch (CTC) has 90 degree rotational symmetry, but not mirror symmetry. Additional twists added to each of the pairs, in the same numbers, both before and after the cloth stitch will retain the rotational symmetry. A single half stitch (CT) does not have sym

[lace] Eye Candy

Lots of interesting pictures of vintage fashions. haberdashery and quite a bit of lace too. http://thetailorsdesire.tumblr.com/ Brenda in Allhallows paternos...@appleshack.com www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com co

Re: [lace] Fwd: Finca threads

It’s Presencia UK that have gone into voluntary liquidation. Presencia Spain (where the threads are produced) are still trading but they are in administration. AFAIK the USA outlet for Presencia (Finca) thread is still trading as usual. Brenda > On 23 Mar 2016, at 17:32, Susan wrote: > > Hell

Re: [lace] Help

Yes Cathy , they have come through three times! Maybe this is another example of the problems with some ISPs and the Arachne list. Brenda > On 23 Mar 2016, at 09:36, Yahoo! wrote: > > Please can someone tell me if the last THREE emails I have sent to Arachne have come through, as they have not

Re: [lace] Biggins / Presencia

Hi folks Sorry about the gobbledegook at the end of my last message - the auto insert is getting worse. Should have read “concentrating on their patterns and appropriate threads for those patterns". > > Once the legalities are sorted and different threads have been sourced they > are planning

Re: [lace] Biggins / Presencia

Hi Liz It’s because Presencia Spain are insolvent. The conditions the administrators are imposing - big price increase, payment in advance and with the current situation no certainty of actually receiving the goods - meant that Vivienne and Iain of Presencia UK felt that they had no option othe

Re: [lace] thread for Hollie Point

Hi Julie Tanner 50 is 39 wraps/cm. Brok 160 is 66 wraps/cm and Egyptian 120 is 58 wraps/cm so they are both considerably finer than the Tanne Actually Egyptian 60/2 is 39 wraps/cm the same as Tanne 50 and Brok 70 is 38 wraps/cm (very marginally thicker). Any Egyptian cotton with a number higher

Re: [lace] email problems/Celtic demo

Irish crochet only developed in the mid nineteenth century - to loosely imitate other laces and to provide a small income to those who had not starved to death or emigrated because of the potato famine. It’s a fairly recent tradition in just one area of the ‘Celtic’ region, though it may, or may n

Re: [lace] Bobbin lace in Celtic nations?

Malvary, I think you have got it spot on. Brenda > > I might suggest finding a nice Celtic knot pattern and working that. Whether people in Celtic nations ever made such a thing (probably not) isn't really the point, it is to give the feel of the designs and for people to see lace being made so th

Re: [lace] Bobbin lace in Celtic nations? - a brief history lesson!

Being Celtic is a cultural thing, not a genetic identity or a political nationality. At the time of the last glacial maximum (ice age) human populations in Europe were confined to three small area; the Atlantis (modern Ukraine), the Balkans (modern Greece) and Iberia (modern Basque region of Spai

Re: [lace] Bobbin lace in Celtic nations?

Ireland doesn’t have any tradition of bobbin lace - but they do have some wonderful needle laces ; Youghal, Carric-ma-Cross, Limerick…. Scotland doesn’t have any tradition of bobbin lace, but the Shetland Isles (norse rather than Celtic) have lovely knitted lace. Also Ayrshire work which is

Re: [lace] Miniature lace

Any BL pattern can be reduced (or enlarged) to suit your own requirements. Sometimes it’s a bit of trial and error to get the right size, and as Karen says there is a limit as to how small one can actually work. Use this table http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/threadsize/threadsize.html <

Re: [lace] Bucks Point Wedding Garter

Hi Sue You don’t need a custom garter pattern; just use an edging pattern that you like. Make two copies of it, trim one very close to the footside pins and place it over the other copy so that there is one line of ‘footsie’ pins down the middle. Omit or blank out every other one of those

Re: [lace] Gutermann R402 silk

Hi Karen I haven’t seen any Gütermann R402 https://www.guetermann.com/shop/en/view/content/guet_productDetail?currentPro duct=R_402_E_ind&showprices=true&node=Industry-Products-Fine-Threads&type=

Re: [lace] thread question

So it’s saying to use size 80 crochet cotton for lace around a handkerchief. If the pattern says DMC then it does mean Cordonnet 80 or Special Dentelles 80 (which I believe is the same thread, just that Cordonnet comes in big balls and white and ecru only, Special Dentelles comes in lots of colo

Re: [lace] thread question

Yes, Häkelgarn means crochet thread, (I’m not sure which language; Norwegian? Finnish? So probably DMC Cordonnet or Special Dentelles (“tatting cotton”) or something similar. I don’t know what Taschenticher means - it’s probably referring to a specific part of the lace. Brenda > On 4

Re: [lace] Mounting finished lace

Hi Sally Mounting and Finishing Lace by Gilian Dye - Elveston Press http://www.amazon.co.uk/Finishing-Mounting-Lace-Gilian-Dye/dp/0952270951 Mounting and Using Lace by Jean Withers - Dryad http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOUNTIN

Re: [lace] RE: Tape lace

Although it has some nice needlelace fillings I don’t think it’s from Branscombe. My understanding of Branscombe lace is that it always includes the little nibs on the bars and sometimes around the edge. Nibs are a type of picot made by working buttonhole stitches over a loop of thread. Bren

Re: [lace] Multi-part prickings tricky; skeins also tricky

My 1973 edition of the 1954 book “The Modern Textile & Apparel Dictionary by Professor George E Linton published in USA (He was a textiles teacher and Dean of the textile department of Fashion Institute in New York) at describes a skein as “an appreciable length of yarn or thread that has been

Re: [lace] Aurifil Thread

It’s listed in Threads for Lace as Aurifil Mako. 28 wt is 26 w/cm Brenda > On 6 Nov 2015, at 00:15, Lorri Ferguson wrote: > > I have some Mako Aurifil thread 28/2. Does anyone know the wpc on this?I am > not finding it in my Book 5, or in the Addendum lists. > TIA Lorri Ferguson > > - > To

Re: [lace] What size thread?

It’s Honition so you need a very fine thread, but Honition more than other laces is fairly flexible in the thickness of thread used because if it starts looking thin you add another pair, if it starts looking overcrowded you take a pair out. If you are thinking of it more as a Milanese piece tr

Re: [lace] Multi-part prickings tricky; skeins also tricky

Julie, it’s not clear what is meant by ‘skein’ I know from the knitting/crochet forum Ravelery that there is a lot of confusion about that word. To me, in UK, a skein means a small hank, but a lot of Americans seem to use the work skein to mean a centre-pull machine wound ball. If your ske

Re: [lace] Lace scarf thread comparisons by Jane Atkinson

I did a similar workshop with Jane at a Lace Guild convention a few years ago and found it very interesting. If you have accurate scales and sufficient thread you can of course find the Tex, or dTex of any thread/yarn. If you are looking at very fine threads you probably need to measure off 20m r

Re: [lace] Help please.

Hi Julie It looks like Point de Gaze, but not detailed enough to be certain that it’s all needle lace with no bobbin fillings to make it mixed Brussels. A very nice piece of lace. Brenda > > Sorry, here is the photo of the lace. > > http://tinyurl.com/whatlaceisthis > Brenda in Allhallows pat

Re: [lace] Equivalence of Superior Threads' Kimono Silk

- and I suspect that the Kimono silk will be finer - a bit more is appreciated; more wraps/cm needs a longer length. My postal address is Brenda Paternoster 46 St Davids Road Allhallows Rochester Kent ME3 9PW England UK Brenda > The thread's website > says it is 0.16 mm in diameter.

Re: [lace] Equivalence of Superior Threads' Kimono Silk

Does 100/2 mean cotton count 100/2 ? or is it the metric 100/2 ? or is it Denier? If it’s cotton count 100/2 , yes you will get 42,000 yards per pound. If it’s Nm you’ll get (100 x 1000) ÷ 2 = 50,000 metres per Kg If it’s denier (which is often used for silk) you’ll get 100 x 2 = 200 gr

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