I got this message today and must forward it -
I hope you do *not* find it ! but if you *find* the
named virus, you must follow the instructions
to get rid of it from your computer and send this
message on to all the people in your address
book . . . I had *two copies* of the virus on my
PC - and m
Which is better - a quick death or
"life" after a nuclear 'exchange' ?
instigated by that **it in the
White House . . .
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Pyongyang says it will increase nuclear deterrence
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Well, ladies, it's been both fun and educational,
but I'm not leaving to stagnate (compost ? )
- I will be 'growing' in a different direction.
I'm going to lurk for awhile, weaning myself away
before I unsub, meanwhile getting over missing you . . .
"Thank you" to all who have replied to my posts
> here is some news about a piece of research into how our sense of humour
changes with age:-
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3181489.stm
> Linda Walton,
(wondering whether passing this test should be made compulsory for anyone
wanting to stand for election . . .).
I find that many so-called '
http://autos.msn.com/as/pebblebeach2003/article.aspx?xml=veyron
excerpts 1 and 2 :
. . . will reach a speed of 252 mph.
The Veyron 16·4 is expected to sell for more than $1 million. Only a few dozen
cars will be produced each year and total production will be limited to 300,
guaranteeing the lim
Just going through some 'old' e-mails,
reminded me that a few months ago I had
half-heartedly agreed with someone that
perhaps there had been no extinctions on
a 'local' level - but which I now refute !! :
=
For Immediate Release: December 12,
> "All of you should know, no one was killed
> Bev
Update - how grievously sad - is that
a van-full of firefighters *were* killed on
their way home . . .
Toni in Seattle
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> I'm allergic to my own perspiration...
The skin is the body's largest
'filtering' organ . . .
> It never *really* surfaced in Poland (except when I wore clothes made with
more than 50% "un-natural" fiber),
(snip)
> Tamara
Or when whatever was in the
'unnatural' fiber, added to whatever
was bei
> And now I rely on my email lists, such as lace-chat, for international
news!
> Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA
Yeah, well, I, too, would rather get it
from the 'horse's mouth' (lace-chat)
than the other end . . . *big* *BIG*
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> Yes. But I dislike the smell and the taste, so never had enough to
> *really* test it :) And I only have a *mild* lactose intolerance;
> Tamara
I don't know what the rates might be
*historically* - but I wonder if any of
the research 'scientists' have published
anything about how much "lactose
i
> > - food 'additives'
> >
> > - plastic food containers leaching ?what? into the food
> >
> > - GE/GM *crap* poisoning foods that we were *used* to . . .
> I don't think it's quite as simple as that... I was told (way back in
my childhood) that allergies (food or otherwise) are genetic -- that we
Question : how many allergy cases
does it take before consumers start
thinking :
- food 'additives'
- plastic food containers leaching ?what? into the food
- GE/GM *crap* poisoning foods that we were *used* to . . .
Toni in Seattle
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> But, like Carly Simon, "I've looked at lights from both sides now"...
> As a result, I can no longer be on either side :)
>
> It's easy to deplore, but what substitute would you offer?
> Tamara
> It's easy to deplore, but what substitute would you offer?
> Tamara
We're talking bird-migration d
http://www.costofwar.com/
And Eisenhower may have said it first,
but I'm 'advertising' !!
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> We then found out he got a bravery award on the
last day at camp. Seems he was a little unhappy about this as he felt
a young lad who had never left home before was very home sick, my grandson
took him under his wing. Nan he was brave, he stayed. The young make
you think sometimes.
>Jean in N
> You missed the point of the Gulf Stream, Toni.
> Patricia
By several thousand miles. I only know
about *this* end of it - - -
Toni in Seattle
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> actually it's so hot trees are getting brittle and losing their leaves as
if it were autumn . and parks had to be closed in Paris because of the
danger of snapping branches ...
> dominique from ovenlike Paris ...
Never having been to Paris, I
don't know about the park trees,
but if the street
(snip)
The most likely source of the phenolic chemical is antioxidants added to such
as plastic
Including plastic bottles for water/
"pickled" food (salad dressings/tartar
sauce . . . ?
(snip)
> The common factors which influence it are:
(i) pH - a measure of the acidity or alkalinity of a substa
Who *are* these people ?
. Eddy Marin
. George Rand
. Alan Ralsky
. John Ritzer
. Juan Garavaglia
. Eric Reinertsen
. Mike Cunningham
. Gaven Stubberfield
. Carl Henderson
. DocDrugs/Pinnacle Meds
http://www
> I'm pleased to see someone in North America is aware of the effect of the
Gulf Stream on Britain :-) When I said something about the Gulf Stream in
1969
to two otherwise very intelligent and well educated friends in Boston they
thought I was pulling their legs. This despite the fact they were a
http://slate.msn.com/id/2086617/
Faith-Based Fudging
How a Bush-promoted Christian prison program fakes success by massaging data.
By Mark A.R. Kleiman
Posted Tuesday, August 5, 2003, at 9:35 AM PT
The White House, the Wall Street Journal, and Christian conservatives have
been crowing since June
> Jean in Poole
> The UK hit it's highest temperature since records began at 3 pm yesterday -
> 38 degrees C (just over 100 F) at Heathrow. Roll on winter!
Be careful what you ask for -
if this is El Nino 'summer', it's
gonna be colder'n _ _ _ _
this winter - with La Nina in
the *winter* ?? brrr
> Here's a lace book, presumably from the 60s, that I've never seen before:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2340096725
> The seller claims that it shows you "everything you need to know to get
started." Someone should show the cover model, before she freezes to death.
Seriously
lightning strikes -
sorry about the previous message,
I'm not 'up to par' today, but what
I was going to say was "that's a lot
of wasted electricity !"
Toni in Seattle
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> Aberdeen and Royal Deeside are not in England; they are in Scotland. And
> the Gulf Stream warms the west side of Scotland (there are tropical gardens
> at Inverewe) but the east coast (Aberdeen and Royal Deeside) are chilled by
> winds direct from the Russian Steppes.
> Margery.
How in the wor
Jean ? Your original post was an observation
about celebrities moving in and wanting
to remove the oaks and plant palms, so
your question does not apply chronologically :
> And before we sailed to America for the first time?
> Palm trees do actually grow in Poole -
(snip)
There are varieties of
(snip)
> didn't go to work today . had to give up : ì've spent the last three weeks
with 35 or 40C (104F) in the office and i can't take it any longer ..
> dominique from Paris ..
I remember one of the places where I
was sent by the agency (Temporary
Services) was a very large building
with a hug
> I have learnt that there are 3 things that I cannot do:
> 1) I can't speak french - but most french people speak better english than
me
> 2) I can't make puff pastry - but I don't eat wheat so no problem
> 3) I can't draw - but I make fantastic lace
> Liz Beecher
H - - - English - puff - fan
> 9400 lightning strikes in 24 hrs. 65 fires.
> Alice in Oregon -
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(snip)
> What's more maritime than the oaks our ships used to be built from?
> Jea in Poole
Port Orford cedars ? They provided
masts for those oaken ships - sent
world-wide from the coast of Oregon
in the U.S.
Toni in Seattle
as for the palm trees, if they don't
like oaks tell them to move where
>Far from being limited to Southern Europe lavender is also grown in the north
>east of Scotland - on Royal Deeside - and hand creams etc made with it.
>Patricia in Wales
Fifteen years ago, a little town called
Sequim was dying due to being so far
'out of the way' . . . until some
Californians mov
> http://www.langendorfkloeppel.de/proamer/produkt/kloeppz_a.htm
> Linda Walton,
Thanks, Linda - and the glass light-globes
are what made me start counting my pennies . . .
Toni in Seattle
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> We don't now take our bottles, even though what we used to take were the
> non-alcoholic wines - we thought the reputation may well take some time to
> live down!
> Carol
I'm sure it's different where you are,
but if it had been me, I would have
invited him to sit, have a drink, and
join me in s
> Of course, Oregon *is* south of Royal Deeside :-) And, yes, I do know your
> seasons are more extreme than ours. I used to reckon that Aberdeen was
about
> half way up the Hudson Bay, to give relative locations.
> Patricia in Wales
Yes and no :
On the 'wet side' of the Cascade Range
(which r
> Tatters? Knitters? Needle-lacers? Crocheters?
> Clay
It's the *real* thing : Irish Crochet Lace -
none of your afghan granny squares !!
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> I'm not aware of any species that became extinct due to a naturally
occuring forest fire, such as we have happening right now.
> Bev
On a 'local' level, 'probably' not -
but when there's no place to
creep/run/fly to for *literal miles*
because the trees have been
cut and erosion has removed
grou
Just don't 'forget' : the *first* bounty paid,
and don't 'forget' the **it that started this,
was $30,000,000 of *American* tax money . . .
http://www.msnbc.com/news/949443.asp?vts=080720031050&cp1=1
Bounty raised on U.S. soldiers
General: Killing GIs may now be worth $5,000
To unsu
> Tatters? Knitters? Needle-lacers? Crocheters?
> Clay
And a modern *real* thing Irish Crochet Lace book :
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> This discussion was on the radio - are there more forest fires now because
> of global warming...the answer is - no...the temp. of the globe does not
> cause forest fires.
But the *rainfall* on the 'globe' seems
certainly to be fluctuating wildly !
> Of the given quantity of fires burning right
(snip)
> We're having almost record temperatures - it's in the low 30's centigrade -
and it might even break the all time record of 1990 (when the temperatiure
reached 37.1 C/99 F) tomorrow or Thursday by hitting 37.7 degree C (100
degrees F).
> Jean in Poole
So - is this 'global warming' or what
(snip)
> As for global warming,
> Patricia in Wales
My own outlook on 'global warming'
is that the Earth has been made sick
by humanity's stupidity, and 'she' is
getting feverish . . .
Toni in Seattle
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That's what was said about bin Laden, too . . .
so where's the body ?? Or do we "need" the threat
of bin Laden to support the **it in the White House
while it spends tax dollars as bounty-rewards . . .
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(snip)
> I agree with my father, who used to lay track back in the days of thirty
men to a sixty foot length - the problems are caused by the "continuous
weld" type of track used, which has none of the expansion joints of the
old type. Consequently, you get hot weather, and the track buckles;
othe
> I'm looking for the music for "Improvisata" by Edgar Tinel, a Belgian
composer of the mid 19th to early 20th century. There are one or two new
CDs out featuring his music, so one would think the music is available
somewhere. But no luck with Schirmer or Novello or any other major, minor,
or obs
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Teen's photos reportedly led to alleged assailant's arrest
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I'm catching up - Science (magazine)
Vol 299 January 2003 devoted half a
page to Bill Gates :
excerpt :
" ... announced that his philanthropic
organization will spend $200,000,000
(yes, all those zeroes !) on research
into . . . some of the world's most
deadly diseases (because they) are
chronica
http://www.msnbc.com/news/946772.asp?vts=073120032230
'bottom line' excerpt :
"Despite what may be going on behind the scenes,
the Bush administration's
public policy
is Iran should hand over al-Qaida terrorists and expect nothing in return."
===
I don't think ther
> In this case, your tax dollars won't even be involved, in all likelihood.<
Since this was a personal reply, I'm
omitting the ID.
But somebody help me out, here, OK ?
I don't know which 'industry' ?? pays
for other governments - but the U.S.
is run on monies from one type of tax
or another. And
> try a few of David's remedies.
> Lynn in Wollongong, Australia
Gotta 'get some *spice* into
your life' - jalapeno, cayenne,
etc. and work on that from
the inside, 'cell' level - steam
from the outside-inside added
to the *hot*-spiced foods
'through' the skin from inside . . . ?
Toni in Seattle
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If *this* is war, why are Americans still
getting killed ?
And I want a refund of the taxes I paid
- they were not meant to provide a bounty
to settle a personal grudge of an 'enemy'
having so many sons while **it doesn't . . .
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(snip)
> Anyone in lace-land have any other old-fashioned (or new-fashioned) aids to
getting bronchitisi/sinusitis to hurry up and go away? I do want to thank
"Dr." Tamara Duvall, however, with providing us with the usual humour almost
everyday to read -- laughter is excellent medicine!! (Even th
> > David wrote:
> > in the next couple of days I
> > need to send her a snail mail telling she has failed her audition.>
>
> What about saying that although you were impressed, there were only x
number
> of spaces free in the choir, and that you had too many applying who were
> whatever she sings
Today on MSN
a.. Memo warns of new airliner hijack plots
MSNBC News
a.. Air marshals pulled from key flights
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Many cars/trucks Americans buy are not built here.
*Most* ships Americans sail on are not built here.
The planes . . . well, probably not for much longer, the way Boeing is
headed.
The steel industry is sick, to say the least . . .
The food . . .
. . . and the jobs ?
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Meet the dirty dozen of business
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> Our messages have only been archived there
> since June 15, and it's hardly a permanent record. It's run as a labour of
> love by one guy and when he goes, the mail-archive goes.
> For those of you who missed the URL the first time, it's
> http://www.mail-archive.com. One of these days I'll rewri
> Personally I haven't cried over onions for years now and thought they must
> have done something genetically to them
> David in Ballarat
David ? your phrasing is exactly what I needed :
Personally, I have been crying for years
over what 'they' are doing genetically to
onions and "everything els
> Martha Stewart may soon have a new captive audience
> http://www.ucomics.com/nonsequitur/
> Pene
Correction ?
" . . . soon *be* a captive - - - audience" ?
Thanks for the update, Pene, 'that girl'
upset me so much after I've been cheering
her on for being a 'real (business) role
model' - - tha
(snip)
> bye for now
> Bev who used to own a Dodge Volare' [altogether now, VOH-lah-RAY,
oh-oh-oh-oh...]in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada)
Oh, I *do* smile when people get giddy !
oh-oh-oh-oh while ing
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> http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/96feb/wordimp/wordimp.htm
> for an article that mentions mugwump etymology and a few other
> interesting words.
>Tamara
The bottom line ? (for that article)
"The Man (usually capitalized) soon personified "the System," especially as
conceived in neo-Marxist do
(snip)
> "It all Started with Adam and Eve" (human history),
> Tamara P Duvall
I pulled up the Seattle Library System
screens on my PC, only to discover that
*they* apparently do not *have* that
title by Armour, Richard whatever-his-
middle-initial was . . . sigh . . . so I'm
waiting now to see ho
> Reminds me of a story that's at least twenty years older than I am.
> (So don't ask for provenance!)
>
> After the Great War (WWI), when there was a lot of war surplus
> lying around, one little boy got his hands on a real, working gas mask
> -- and for miles around, no housewife had to grate her
> As from midnight last night certain weapons of mass destruction were banned
in the UK (and, I think, other European countries).
Whoa !! Then the it in our White House is no
longer allowed entry to the "UK or some of
the other European countries" ? ...
> The stupid thing is that the
> I just had to reply. First, background. I'm 54, a math teacher
> living in North Pole, Alaska,
(snip)
> Tanya Cunningham
But were you there in August of 1960
when I was there ??
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>And since we've been discussing summer reading, I/ve finally pulled out for
>a re-read The Complete Lucia by E.F.Benson. It is a most delightful set of
>books in one volume, and years ago the BBC made two of them into a short
>series which starring Sir Nigel Hawthorne and Prunella Scales, among o
> I got so irritated with that soppy Bridget Jones and her daft ideas that I
> wanted to rip her arm off and beat her to death with the soggy end -
>
> Carol - in a wet and very windy East Anglia.
Whoa ! Hold it ! you had better get some
medication - I think whatever it is that the
bloodthirsty it
> I was tempted to try some of the other pages, but I'd spend the whole
evening looking at them.
> Jean in Poole
That's why I stopped at the songs !
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Women's naked farming ritual brings rain August 16 2002
Some 200 women in Nepal who ploughed their fields naked in a desperate attempt
to bring rain to their drought-stricken region were rewarded as the monsoon
began shortly afterwards, a rep
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(I'm a lonely little petunia - in . . .)
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Man drops trousers at royal garden party
The Queen got an unexpected view of one of her subjects when a guest at one of
her regular garden parties dropped his trousers and scampered off among the
tea-drinking crowd.
"He was a young man, an invited g
> Main Entry: mug·wump
> Pronunciation: 'm&g-"w&mp
> Function: noun
> Etymology: obsolete slang mugwump kingpin, from Massachuset mugquomp,
> muggumquomp war leader
> Date: 1884
> 1 : a bolter from the Republican party in 1884
> 2 : an independent in politics
> So, now, we *both* are keen to know..
While we make lace,
"things may change . . .".
The House just passed the Singapore Free Trade Agreement (H.R. 2739) by a
272-155 vote.
And it passed the Chile Free Trade Agreement (H.R. 2738) 270-156 just a
little bit later.
Republicans almost totally deserted the higher-skilled American worke
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> > That reminds me of "How Green Was
> > My Valley", the story was about a boy
> > in a coal-mining town in Wales, I think
> It was Richard Llewllyn (sp?) - one of my favourite books.
>
> Johanna
That was probably 45 to 50 years ago -
it's funny how memories are 'stored in
the heart' as well as
http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/Insurance/Insureyourhome/P35345.asp
excerpt :
"What's more, the problem is derailing their plans to sell their home. The
Garders say they have been told by their real estate agent and others that
they may have a tough time getting a good price for a home that's
> Which reminds me...not far down the shelf are the books
> by Miss Read, about life of a schoolteacher in a small English
> village. (To UK members -- are these stories plausible to you
> who are more familiar with real villages? As an ex-teacher, I
> rather enjoyed the stories.) My library even
> Plus in the beginning, we would be told about many lace making trips
that lacemakers have taken, telling us what they have seen, what
they liked etc. This is seldom done, I myself have taken many trips
but would not post to Arachne what I had seen and done.
Angela is currently giving us
the bi
(snip)
> high up on the mountain growing potatoes, the main cash crop.
> A Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Whoa !! gene diversity !!Do they/
would they consider exporting small
numbers/weights of potatoes ??
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> --sue, in beastly hot, dry, smoky Montana (yes, it's too hot to make lace!)
And that's the truth !! It's going to
be 93 F (according to this morning's
radio DJ) in Seattle - makes me
think of moving farther north - - -
Bev ? what's the temp like on
The Island ? like day before the
Lace Conferen
> The Newsletter was never sent as no one sent in any ads. I didn't want
> to send only my own ads. These add could be even "classifieds" of for
> sale items so it's not limited to dealers. It could also have "wanted"
> items too. I have hundreds of people who signed up to receive it but no
> ads
> I wonder if it's worth suggesting that extra split here? I know some people
here feel strongly on both sides of the fence ...
> Margery.
I'm not "against" advertising, I
just don't want to *deal* with
it on a daily/hourly basis.
A third list for *sales/marketing*
is an absolutely wonderful ide
> (Now, before you all sent postings
> protesting at this custom, let me say that it is common in many societies
> around the world, and that in my own childhood, I had an aunt whose husband
> ate alone, while she and her two daughters always fed in the kitchen.)
> Angela Thompson
Comment is unnec
> Hi, for some time there has been a problem with people wanting me to tell
them of special offers and new additions to our web site. The problem being a
hand full of people who don't like it.
Excuse me - "don't like it ?"
My understanding is that
*advertising is prohibited* ??
but an *URL* *und
> So... Are we all quiet enjoying our weekends outdoors, or is my
puter/ISP (FBI, CIA, NSA, any and all aphabet soups) now denying me
access not only to my own postings, but everyone else's as well?
No - just no activity unless . . . ? but there's
been nothing [lace] since this afternoon.
I sign o
> First, my printer got terminally hung up on the instructions for the
> Folded Star Ornament (on the Everything Quilts, Inc website);
> Tamara
Not the printer's fault.
I ran into the same problem.
Some of the 'text' on that site
is not in *text mode* - to a
*printer*. It looks like a graphic.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/940186.asp?cp1=1
excerpt : (actually, it's the lead paragraph . . .)
WASHINGTON, July 17, 2003 -
The 2001 recession, the country's first downturn
in a decade, officially ended in November of that
year, only eight months after it had begun, an
academic group declared Thu
> I belong to a drunken book club (we're a drinking group with a reading
problem).
> Jana in Michigan
I probably *look* like I'd fit into your club -
just 'smelling the cork' turns my nose so red
it almost 'lights up' like Rudolph The Red-Nosed
Reindeer - add a new twist to that, a
developing case
> http://www.poldark.com/poldark/thehorsedealer.htm
> Jean in Poole
Whoa ! that site offers an HTML version
as well - that flipped up on my monitor
in the space of 1.5 seconds instead of
the ?? *minutes* required by .pdf files . . .
*And* the second paragraph of the story :
>>> "He lived in a ro
(snip)
> I'm such a fan that not only have I got the first 11 books in paperback,
but
> all 12 in hardback as well. I've also got the videos of the TV series
> amounting to 27 hours of viewing, including the dreadful episode made by
ITV.
> Jean in Poole
I did the same (bookwise only) with
the "Ann
(snip)
> watched by many male Pakistani tourists, eager to see women with
> unveiled faces.
With *their* *veiled wives* 'at home' ?
(snip)
> Several Muslim girls watched from a nearby flat roof.
> The adjustment of their veils appeared to be a necessary pastime. The
> Muslim faith is making conv
(snip)
> "no odds", you might think, but it's a show of skill on both parts as much
as anything else, at least now, and all pre-arranged...
> Tamara
Hey, I'd have no complaint - if the *riders*
were *women* and the guys were on foot -
in America, aren't *men* the "best" broken-field
runners (in fo
http://slate.msn.com/id/2085612/
Who Is Buried in Bush's Speech?
The truth has been shot! Round up some unusual suspects.
By Michael Kinsley
Posted Monday, July 14, 2003, at 3:53 PM PT
Once again a mysterious criminal stalks the nation's capital. First there was
the mystery sniper. Then the
(snip)
> It was also suggested that the concentration on one thing at a time
> explains why there are more men specialists in some professions.
> Jean in Poole
I was reading along and 'learning',
until I got to the 'bottom line' -
and 'learned' that somebody is still
trying to "fool all the people
(snip)
> What I am hoping is that some of you might list a few books that you
have read over the years that stick out in your minds as having been
worthwhile.
(snip
Susan Webster
" . . . And Ladies of the Club"
by Helen Hooven Sant Myer
"A Sand County Almanac"
by Aldo Leopold
"Noah's Garden"
by
(snip)
> The wife doesn't want the driver to know the house will be empty.
(snip)
> The cabdriver hit a parked car...
David in Ballarat
David, ya *got* me ! I'm dyin' here . . .
Hehehehehe ! There I was, for the
first time *in years*, hiring a taxi
(because of the baggage and the
lack of parking
> One of DH's "women" in one of his internet groups was wondering if she
should apply to the Guiness Book of Records as having the most number of
body parts missing.
(snip)
> Jean in Poole
===
> I think my brother in law could be an equal or close second. He is missing
> Lynn in Wollongong
http://slate.msn.com/id/2085481/
excerpt :
"In the out years, by their own estimate, their plan
is a job and growth killer," says Jared Bernstein, economist at the Economic
Policy Institute.
"Instead of doing what serious analysts would do and going to the drawing
board to re-evaluate,
they ju
> . . . But better looking as he gets older
. . . never mind who . . .
So - which *woman* is "better looking
as she gets older" ? Or maybe *we* haven't
*earned* 'equal treatment/rights' yet . . .
Toni in Seattle
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