>Lets make a poll to find out how many of us are booting bering from a
>floppy and decide from there.
I still favor & use Bering 1.2 floppies. I like the security of the
write-protect slider. And part of the idea about Linux, and Bering firewalls
in particular, is repurposing old hardware for
>Lets make a poll to find out how many of us are booting bering from a
>floppy and decide from there.
I still favor & use Bering 1.2 floppies. I like the security of the
write-protect slider. And part of the idea about Linux, and Bering firewalls
in particular, is repurposing old hardware for
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>> Lets make a poll to find out how many of us are booting bering from a
>> floppy and decide from there.
>
> I still favor & use Bering 1.2 floppies. I like the security of the
> write-protect slider. And part of the idea about Linux, and Bering firewalls
> in particu
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> >Lets make a poll to find out how many of us are booting bering from a
> >floppy and decide from ther
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> > Subject: Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question
> >
> > >Lets make a poll to find out how many of us are booting bering from a
> > >floppy and decide from there.
> >
> >
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>> Lets make a poll to find out how many of us are booting bering from a
>> floppy and decide from there.
>
> I still favor & use Bering 1.2 floppies. I like the security of the
> write-protect slider. And part of the idea
I tottaly agree with you. I had hard times with floppies. For a
professional setup I recommend USB flash or compact flash. If your
configs don't change a lot like mine burn a CD.
Why don't support kernel 2.4 and give a new branch for kernel 2.6 ?
giovanni wrote:
> Some times ago, I rebooted an
Christian Villa Real Lopes schrieb:
> I tottaly agree with you. I had hard times with floppies. For a
> professional setup I recommend USB flash or compact flash. If your
> configs don't change a lot like mine burn a CD.
>
> Why don't support kernel 2.4 and give a new branch for kernel 2.6 ?
Ba
On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 22:11 +0300, Bob Gregory wrote:
> My production firewall boxen are still running off diskettes. The downside
> compared with a CF/IDE box I use for testing is (1) slower boot and (2)
> limited space for packages. But as long as the required packages fit on a
> diskette, this i
> Some times ago, I rebooted an old LRP floppy based Firewall (with an
> uptime of 2 years) only to discover that the floppy has gone. From that
> moment I use Compact Flashes.
> My 2 cents
Do you mean you don't have another "backup" of your floppy disk?
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>> Why don't support kernel 2.4 and give a new branch for kernel 2.6 ?
>
> Basically that is what I'm aiming at :-)
As for the 2.6.x branch, the ability to save configuration files to a floppy
should also be supported, thanks! Leaf user since 2002 and a very happy
customer indeed! ;-)
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Kwon wrote:
>> Some times ago, I rebooted an old LRP floppy based Firewall (with an
>> uptime of 2 years) only to discover that the floppy has gone. From that
>> moment I use Compact Flashes.
>> My 2 cents
> Do you mean you don't have another "backup"
Imagine this scenario,
you have LEAF boxes spread all over your country,
would you trust floppy disks on your installations even with backups around?
Floppy disk devices have movable parts, CFs don't, usb-sticks don't,
I personally haven't used any floppies for 4 years now, period.
Regards,
Harry
This may be prudent, but it may not be reality. If you were worried
about resiliency, would you be using old or repurposed hardware to begin
with?
I agree that CF's or USB sticks are a better choice, but the user base
seems to be indicating that the floppy isn't dead yet.
Tony
Harry Lachan
> This may be prudent, but it may not be reality. If you were worried
> about resiliency, would you be using old or repurposed hardware to begin
> with?
>
Not so old!!!
Depends on case.
> I agree that CF's or USB sticks are a better choice, but the user base
> seems to be indicating that t
Tony wrote:
> This may be prudent, but it may not be reality. If you were worried
> about resiliency, would you be using old or repurposed hardware to begin
> with?
>
> I agree that CF's or USB sticks are a better choice, but the user base
> seems to be indicating that the floppy isn't dead ye
On Thursday 19 July 2007 18:11:55 Harry Lachanas wrote:
> Imagine this scenario,
> you have LEAF boxes spread all over your country,
> would you trust floppy disks on your installations even with backups
> around?
>
> Floppy disk devices have movable parts, CFs don't, usb-sticks don't,
> I personal
> Imagine this scenario,
> you have LEAF boxes spread all over your country,
> would you trust floppy disks on your installations even with backups around?
I don't! I have only a few clients that are using Leaf boxes and the setup is
identical:
Old PC, 64-128mb Ram, CD with original .iso, 3 NICs
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> ...
> OK but to the point. Is there a tried and easy method to make a IDE-CF
> image based on the disk version I'm now using?
>
> -Marko
>
At the very fist time I worked as follow
- - copy all floppy on a folder on my PC (L
> At the very fist time I worked as follow
> - - copy all floppy on a folder on my PC (Linux)
> - - copy initrd.lrp from this folder on /tmp/initrd.gz
> - - gunzip /tmp/initrd.gz
> - - mount -o loop /tmp/initrd /mnt
> - - cp ide-mod.o >> /mnt/boot/lib/modules
> - - echo ide-disk >> /mnt/boot/etc/m
Hi All,
Here is my opinion on the floppy question.
I have been using LEAF for firewalls ever since LRP 2.9.x. Over the
years I have tried just about every way of booting the system, floppies,
ZIP, LS120, HD, CD + floppy for config and CF. In all cases when a
floppy or floppy like device (ZIP or
Hello,
I would like to add my own straw to the camel's back.
I last used a floppy (DSL, not LEAF, I think) about four years ago as an
emergency boot. (My CF was scrambled, and the backup had found its way into
a childs camera...).
My current LEAF box would not fit into a floppy - it is 3.1MB. How
>This may be prudent, but it may not be reality. If you were worried
>about resiliency, would you be using old or repurposed hardware to
>begin with?
Because some people (owners, bosses, comptrollers, et al) pinch pennies.
Cost reduction is the business mantra these days. There's always some
>main Hw decides to buy the farm. I have recently also salvaged a 5 1/2"
>floppy drive just in case I want to go really medieval on this...and yes
>I have the floppies for a lifetime. I could always go to the
Pc-superstore
We also keep OLD hardware around, just in case. There's never enough
budge
> My current LEAF box would not fit into a floppy - it is 3.1MB.
Just want to be clear, my current Leaf box won't fit into a floppy neither.
What I do is:
1. Download the leaf.iso image and burn to a CD
2. Create leaf.cfg into a floppy and boot from the CD
3. Save configuration (configdb.lrp) and
This is actually my setup as well. I've been using the CD since it
first came out way back when with Charles' distro (I think it was 1.02).
I think the ability to lock the floppy with the sliding tab is
invaluable. Test, make and save the changes, lock the tab and you can
leave it right in the
Tony
Tony wrote:
> This is actually my setup as well. I've been using the CD since it
> first came out way back when with Charles' distro (I think it was 1.02).
>
> I think the ability to lock the floppy with the sliding tab is
> invaluable. Test, make and save the changes, lock the tab and yo
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kwon
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 2:10 AM
To: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question
> My current LEAF box would not fit into a floppy - it is 3.1MB.
Just want to
Some of the CF to IDE adapters have a write protect jumper that is easy
to run out to a switch.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 2:54 AM
Cc: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [leaf-user] The old
Count me among the (few?) using old hard drives. HDPARM +
/etc/init.d/spindown, and I've yet to have a drive fail in this
configuration. And I'm using really old (Conner anyone?) drives with 100MB
DOS partitions. I use SCP to keep a copy of the config files offsite for
each Leaf box so if a driv
> The floppy vs. non floppy question for me gets down to time.
Agreed!
> I am currently working on the next generation of branch office routers
> for our organization. The platform is a VIA EPIA motherboard with CF
> boot in a 1U case with no fans and an external power supply.
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