Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

The floppy vs. non floppy question for me gets down to time. Agreed! I am currently working on the next generation of branch office routers for our organization. The platform is a VIA EPIA motherboard with CF boot in a 1U case with no fans and an external power supply. You can also try:

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

My current LEAF box would not fit into a floppy - it is 3.1MB. Just want to be clear, my current Leaf box won't fit into a floppy neither. What I do is: 1. Download the leaf.iso image and burn to a CD 2. Create leaf.cfg into a floppy and boot from the CD 3. Save configuration (configdb.lrp) and

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

This is actually my setup as well. I've been using the CD since it first came out way back when with Charles' distro (I think it was 1.02). I think the ability to lock the floppy with the sliding tab is invaluable. Test, make and save the changes, lock the tab and you can leave it right in the

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

Tony Tony wrote: This is actually my setup as well. I've been using the CD since it first came out way back when with Charles' distro (I think it was 1.02). I think the ability to lock the floppy with the sliding tab is invaluable. Test, make and save the changes, lock the tab and you

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kwon Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 2:10 AM To: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question My current LEAF box would not fit into a floppy - it is 3.1MB. Just want

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

Some of the CF to IDE adapters have a write protect jumper that is easy to run out to a switch. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 2:54 AM Cc: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [leaf-user] The old

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

Count me among the (few?) using old hard drives. HDPARM + /etc/init.d/spindown, and I've yet to have a drive fail in this configuration. And I'm using really old (Conner anyone?) drives with 100MB DOS partitions. I use SCP to keep a copy of the config files offsite for each Leaf box so if a

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kwon wrote: Some times ago, I rebooted an old LRP floppy based Firewall (with an uptime of 2 years) only to discover that the floppy has gone. From that moment I use Compact Flashes. My 2 cents Do you mean you don't have another backup of your

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

Imagine this scenario, you have LEAF boxes spread all over your country, would you trust floppy disks on your installations even with backups around? Floppy disk devices have movable parts, CFs don't, usb-sticks don't, I personally haven't used any floppies for 4 years now, period. Regards,

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

This may be prudent, but it may not be reality. If you were worried about resiliency, would you be using old or repurposed hardware to begin with? I agree that CF's or USB sticks are a better choice, but the user base seems to be indicating that the floppy isn't dead yet. Tony Harry

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

This may be prudent, but it may not be reality. If you were worried about resiliency, would you be using old or repurposed hardware to begin with? Not so old!!! Depends on case. I agree that CF's or USB sticks are a better choice, but the user base seems to be indicating that the

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

Tony wrote: This may be prudent, but it may not be reality. If you were worried about resiliency, would you be using old or repurposed hardware to begin with? I agree that CF's or USB sticks are a better choice, but the user base seems to be indicating that the floppy isn't dead yet.

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

On Thursday 19 July 2007 18:11:55 Harry Lachanas wrote: Imagine this scenario, you have LEAF boxes spread all over your country, would you trust floppy disks on your installations even with backups around? Floppy disk devices have movable parts, CFs don't, usb-sticks don't, I personally

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

Imagine this scenario, you have LEAF boxes spread all over your country, would you trust floppy disks on your installations even with backups around? I don't! I have only a few clients that are using Leaf boxes and the setup is identical: Old PC, 64-128mb Ram, CD with original .iso, 3 NICs

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marko Nurmenniemi wrote: ... OK but to the point. Is there a tried and easy method to make a IDE-CF image based on the disk version I'm now using? -Marko At the very fist time I worked as follow - - copy all floppy on a folder on my PC (Linux)

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

At the very fist time I worked as follow - - copy all floppy on a folder on my PC (Linux) - - copy initrd.lrp from this folder on /tmp/initrd.gz - - gunzip /tmp/initrd.gz - - mount -o loop /tmp/initrd /mnt - - cp ide-mod.o /mnt/boot/lib/modules - - echo ide-disk /mnt/boot/etc/modules -

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

Hi All, Here is my opinion on the floppy question. I have been using LEAF for firewalls ever since LRP 2.9.x. Over the years I have tried just about every way of booting the system, floppies, ZIP, LS120, HD, CD + floppy for config and CF. In all cases when a floppy or floppy like device (ZIP or

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

Hello, I would like to add my own straw to the camel's back. I last used a floppy (DSL, not LEAF, I think) about four years ago as an emergency boot. (My CF was scrambled, and the backup had found its way into a childs camera...). My current LEAF box would not fit into a floppy - it is 3.1MB.

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

This may be prudent, but it may not be reality. If you were worried about resiliency, would you be using old or repurposed hardware to begin with? Because some people (owners, bosses, comptrollers, et al) pinch pennies. Cost reduction is the business mantra these days. There's always some

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

main Hw decides to buy the farm. I have recently also salvaged a 5 1/2 floppy drive just in case I want to go really medieval on this...and yes I have the floppies for a lifetime. I could always go to the Pc-superstore We also keep OLD hardware around, just in case. There's never enough budget

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

Lets make a poll to find out how many of us are booting bering from a floppy and decide from there. I still favor use Bering 1.2 floppies. I like the security of the write-protect slider. And part of the idea about Linux, and Bering firewalls in particular, is repurposing old hardware for a

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

Lets make a poll to find out how many of us are booting bering from a floppy and decide from there. I still favor use Bering 1.2 floppies. I like the security of the write-protect slider. And part of the idea about Linux, and Bering firewalls in particular, is repurposing old hardware for a

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lets make a poll to find out how many of us are booting bering from a floppy and decide from there. I still favor use Bering 1.2 floppies. I like the security of the write-protect slider. And part of the idea about Linux, and Bering firewalls in particular, is

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

-Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 6:29 PM To: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question Lets make a poll to find out how many of us are booting bering from a floppy and decide from there. I still favor use Bering 1.2

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

, 2007 6:29 PM To: leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question Lets make a poll to find out how many of us are booting bering from a floppy and decide from there. I still favor use Bering 1.2 floppies. I like the security of the write-protect

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lets make a poll to find out how many of us are booting bering from a floppy and decide from there. I still favor use Bering 1.2 floppies. I like the security of the write-protect slider. And part of the idea about

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

I tottaly agree with you. I had hard times with floppies. For a professional setup I recommend USB flash or compact flash. If your configs don't change a lot like mine burn a CD. Why don't support kernel 2.4 and give a new branch for kernel 2.6 ? giovanni wrote: Some times ago, I rebooted an

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

Christian Villa Real Lopes schrieb: I tottaly agree with you. I had hard times with floppies. For a professional setup I recommend USB flash or compact flash. If your configs don't change a lot like mine burn a CD. Why don't support kernel 2.4 and give a new branch for kernel 2.6 ?

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 22:11 +0300, Bob Gregory wrote: My production firewall boxen are still running off diskettes. The downside compared with a CF/IDE box I use for testing is (1) slower boot and (2) limited space for packages. But as long as the required packages fit on a diskette, this is

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

Some times ago, I rebooted an old LRP floppy based Firewall (with an uptime of 2 years) only to discover that the floppy has gone. From that moment I use Compact Flashes. My 2 cents Do you mean you don't have another backup of your floppy disk?

Re: [leaf-user] The old floppy question

Why don't support kernel 2.4 and give a new branch for kernel 2.6 ? Basically that is what I'm aiming at :-) As for the 2.6.x branch, the ability to save configuration files to a floppy should also be supported, thanks! Leaf user since 2002 and a very happy customer indeed! ;-)