I can't get my head around this Diouf situation. He's not training because of
the death of his old coach and the death of Nelson Mandela. What !!?? He wasn't
even related and whilst we all know that losing someone close is hard I don't
think anyone has had 6 months off work because of it.
Thanks for sharing the very sad news James. Padraig helped me on my first
(and still only!) ever trip to Elland Road over 10 years back with great
tips on where to go to make the most of the trip.
RIP Padraig.
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Well it’s so much nicer going to see us play now the c**t Bates has gone. The
football isn’t necessarily always better, and to be honest the entertainment
value, if not sporting finesse, when we were in division three (League One) and
minus points was often higher, but at least when I go now I
Thanks James for sharing the news .
May he rest in peace.
Edmond.
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From: Ciaran Diver
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Subject: Re: [LU] Sad news - Padraig O'Conail RIP
Thanks for sharing the very sad news James. Padraig helped me
Padraig really nice bloke will be missed by all, When cycling through Ireland
I met up with him and had a cracking night / laugh and few beers. RIP.
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Thanks for passing on the news. Padraig was active on so many
sporting fronts we have struggled to keep on top of everything. We
did wonder whether there was an appropriate venn
I remember meeting Padraig at nearly all home games in the late 90's early
2000's.
He flew over so often.
Always went to the Adelphi to meet up with the rest of the Usual Suspects and
then eventually to the Brittania.
He always loved a pint and enjoyed the banter.
He will sadly be missed.
Dear List
Andy's mail sums up only too well my feelings on the deaths of list
members. The deaths of John Sykes and Padraig and the subsequent
tributes and expressions of sympathy demonstrate the goodness of this list.
It makes me proud to be a member even though, now, lurker is more apt.
Seems that us being linked with bringing back Gradel is more than just media
speculation.
I know we need a winger but I have really mixed feelings about this. In my view
in one of the biggest games in our long history Gradel lost the plot and almost
cost us promotion. Add to that his
Phill,
With you on this one.
On Tuesday, 17 December 2013, 12:41, Phill Shields phillshie...@hotmail.com
wrote:
Seems that us being linked with bringing back Gradel is more than just media
speculation.
I know we need a winger but I have really mixed feelings about this. In my view
what you say is true, but all players are mercenary to some extent, but I
doubt if he'll earn as much in the UK as he does in France, but my main
concern is that he's only played occasionally since getting seriously
injured last year. Back on loan to see if he's any good anymore would be
the best
Seems that us being linked with bringing back Gradel is more than just media
speculation.
If it is more than media speculation is it not just an agent trick for an
improved contract?
He is highly thought of at St Etienne who are French First Division and its
World Cup season, why would he
Difficult one for me this, Max, along with Beckford, is my favourite player
post first relegation, and IF he can play like he did it would be a real coup.
Having said that he did leave us (although it was to better himself and his
career, albeit the timing was awful) Add to that the fact that
You may be right about his agent being behind this Paul. Apparently his
contract with St Etienne expires in 2015 so the timing would fit with your
assessment. This time it feels to have more legs about it for me though.
As regards swapping French top tier with our 2nd tier I do not think
No from me.
Same feeling over bristol rovers. He nearly cost us dear.
Liked him but he left and that's that.
Young keen hungry players is what we need.
Same goes for any of the Norwich team. Gone, fondly remembered but that's it
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Ligue Un isn't a rich league. PSG and Monaco have rich benefactors now and
marseilles are traditionally a top european club but most clubs get
championship or lower crowds and I guess championship and lower wages.
They also have the threat of a new 75% tax band coming in which will either see
Disagree entirely. He fucked off Bates and the selling club we were. He needs
to go where the money is for his family and I would much rather our 'stars' go
abroad than, say, to scum (like Smith - who many Unfathomably still laud). He
earned promotion with his performances and was entitled to
say, to scum (like Smith - who many Unfathomably still laud).
It's pretty fathomable if you look at the facts at the time.
M
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Good job Thirkers aint here or we'd be re-signing some outlandish Welsh
bloke who played alongside Big John in the 50s :-)
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Facts as stated by whom? I see opinion and statements from people with an
interest - I don't see objective facts. The only objective fact is we went down
and he decided to sign for them. Our fans were already at a low ebb and
definitely did not need that.
You think he saved the club?
OK, run through the alternatives to selling Smith to the only club that
tabled an offer that got him off the payroll and helped bail out the sinking
ship with £7m?
M
In a message dated 17/12/2013 13:22:56 GMT Standard Time,
ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com writes:
Facts as stated by
Where is this info from? Lorimer? Same guy who said Howson had to go, Grayson
had to go etc etc.
I just don't buy it - sorry but other teams were in for him. The ship was sunk
anyway and if he was such a hero he would have deferred wages.
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On 17 Dec 2013, at 21:33,
It's what happened at the time.
No other teams were in for him with £7m. No other teams were in for him
without expecting us to contribute to his wages. It was not his decision to
go. The club sold him. He was entitled to a loyalty bonus, which he waived.
Do you seriously expect
Harold Williams?
Verner
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Sent: Tuesday, 17 December 2013, 13:23
Subject: Re: [LU] Max Gradel
Good job Thirkers aint here or we'd be re-signing
I'm not a millionaire but yes I would if I professed to love my employer. It's
not a normal job. Mark, you don't know anything about the ins and outs of the
deal. You only know what people with an interest have said in the press.
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On 17 Dec 2013, at 21:41, markbu...@aol.com
But there was no option for Smith to stay. ManU offered £7m for him. Under
what circumstances would the management of a failing business have refused
that?
What Smith said was irrelevant. He had no option to stay, even playing for
nothing.
I have a pretty good idea about the deal. What
No you don't have any idea about the deal - only what you have read publicised
by people with an interest in it. Anyway, cba, even I find this boring and I'm
sure other listers do.
There's no point in arguing - neither of us will change our minds. I will say
this though, you were a supporter
The noise on the twattishphere is a retread of the rumours from July that
Red Bull may take a major stake.
How far would we be willing to bend over and spread it in order to get the
money from Austria's 2nd most famous son I wonder?
Rename ER to The Red Bull Arena?
Change our kit to Red
Not interested in invading Poland but definitely up for being annexed by the
Fatherland :-)
From: rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 17:03:05 +
Subject: [LU] Leeds Red Bulls
The noise on the twattishphere is a retread of the rumours from
From: phillshie...@hotmail.com
Not interested in invading Poland but definitely up for being annexed by the
Fatherland :-)
Get in on the ground floor the Fatherland is going to be a big deal.
Cheers
Mark
El Presidente Wisconsin Whites
Leeds United
Chicago Fire
Oi you two, this is not good enough, neither of you have slagged off me and
Rick yet. Call this a quality debate? Minnows
Betty
PS surely it was Smith's agent who called the shots, Ridsdale wouldn't have
recognised Smith if he'd bumped into him in Sainsburys. (They do have
Sainsburys in
Ian, why do you assume I simply get information from reading the papers?
How do you know I don't have better sources?
I remain a supporter of developing the stadium. It's pretty grim in many
places compared to state-of-the-art premiership grounds. Don't you think we
shouldn't have a decent
2nd most famous after Josef Fritzel?
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The noise on
Basement is the thing in austria
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From: Mark wiscole...@hotmail.com
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:10:15
To: Phill Shieldsphillshie...@hotmail.com; Richard
Naefrich...@triumph-computers.co.uk;
Betty, they do have Sainsburys in Leeds - unfortunately Ridsdale was shopping
in Waitrose with a Lidl credit card :-)
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On 17 Dec 2013, at 19:17, j...@boocock.net wrote:
Oi you two, this is not good enough, neither of you have slagged off me and
Rick yet. Call this a
Remember Troyes?
Indeed, those where the days. We filled a mini-bus down to the game.Started in
Amsterdam picking others
up on the way through Netherlands and Belgium. Got down there mid-afternoonish,
met up with other
listers and leeds fans. Lots of good craick, good few and not a small
I don't think that the stadium should be a place for car salesman or Jehovah's
Witness conferences, as per Bates and his 'diversified income stream' shit.
My Bates comment is completely accurate - you supported most of the projects he
ran whilst sucking money out of the football club. You
Its a long time ago and I don't remember all the details, but if I'm not
mistaken that logic -- which would be spot on in most contexts -- did not apply
at the time because all of the player contracts were hocked. In other words,
that 7 million quid did nothing for us. It reduced a
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