JL
If the userid is represented as text then any digits are stored and
sorted as text characters and not numbers.
Putting leading zeros would solve your problem
Ian
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JL
Inserting leading spacing solves the problem.
Regards
Bob
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JL
If the userid is represented as text then any
I'm not using any text or anything besides straight numbers. Are you
telling me I have no choice except to go through 1700 of them adding
zeros one at a time?!!
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Bob Howes wrote:
JL
Inserting leading
Let us be accurate please, I said that my filing system for documents and
photos is chaotic, and it is, but then I do not use RINs nor MRINs for
indentification. The fact is,as I said, I started without a system and I now
have far too many photos/documents to even think of trying to change
Lynda,
It wasn't myself that suggested using RINs for a filing system, Geoff from
Legacy recommends MRINs, which seems fair enough. I know that one can renumber
RINs should one wish but it is forced renumbering which would give me a
headache.
My concern regarding forced renumbering is not
I've just done about 1500 one at a time, but I'm curious - how could
some other program help to renumber the User ID's in Legacy?
JL
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ronald ferguson wrote:
It's not you that stores them as text it's Legacy,
JLB wrote
I don't know what the use of RIN's in the User ID field would be, but
since you put it like that, I think being able to use it for MRIN's
would be a really neat idea.
To those who use RINs in their filing system it is just as neat an idea
as putting MRINs into UserID for those who
JLB wrote
If you mean why would you use RIN's for a filing system, there is no
reason I can think of. MRIN's is a different thing.
Can you explain that, please?
Of course, how one organizes one's filing is a very personal thing and
*my* system works for *me*, which is all that is required.
I seem to be one brick short today. I didn't realize that people use
RIN's for filing systems, but if you do apparently it's already possible
in Legacy to have the RIN's put into the User ID fields with a single
click of a button.
JL
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Bruce Jones wrote
I think the best advice I got about naming multimedia files is to make
it the same as the system you use for your paper files.
Since I use the MRIN system for my paper files, I decided to use it for
my pictures and document as well.
I eventually settled on the following:
It sounds like you have a good thing going on. I was only answering the
one person who wrote the original question wanting to know what to use
RIN's for. If my experience the answer stands: There is no reason I
can think of.
I plead ignorance.
JL
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Jenny M Benson wrote:
JLB wrote
If you mean why would you use RIN's for a filing system, there is no
reason I can think of. MRIN's is a different thing.
Can you explain that, please?
Of course, how one organizes one's filing is a very personal thing and
*my* system works for *me*, which is
Sorry, I'm thinking more about file names than UIDs - I had my mind elsewhere
as I cannot get my lap-top to connect to the internet!
You should be able to do it using Access or Open Office though, I cannot think
if there is a way of doing it in Legacy, I don't think so but have a slight
When you are adding an interview each entry is SPECIFIC to that particular
interview. What I mean is, if I interview someone more than once the date
part goes in the master source screen and not the detail screen. So, ifI
interview someone three times I will have 3 separate entries.
Michele,
Rather depends on how strictly one wishes to adhere to Mills so there is the
option, as you say, of having a new Master source for each and every interview
or why not use the date box in the Source Detail with today's date next to
it. I doubt if it's correct but it is certainly more
ok guys. I want to put the location of the grave and the township, the
county, state and USA ...
the address is good information but how do you make it appear as
buried G-61, Maple Lawn Cemetery, Wells Township, Rice County, Minnesota, USA
Richard Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:23:15 +0100 To:
Hi Michele, there are many different methods of naming your scans and photos,
the method that you choose is up to you. The method that I use is quite simple.
If I have a photo that is linked to a person (picture, announcements, cemetery
stone, etc.), I use the person's name: John Smith, for
I am wanting to select all the descendents from one person for 4 generations
and I can not see how to do this.
Could I have some baby steps please as to how to proceed ?
Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney.
Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin, Wicklow
Wexford
Richard,
This will open another can of worms - put it in the Location Field.
Ron Ferguson
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View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
On the GEDCOM export screen
Click the Record Selection Button
Select Focus Group
Click View Select Focus Group
First Click Clear list to remove any existing groups.
Select Add a Person and Descendants.
On the Add screen you can set the number of generations to include.
Do NOT use entire family
...and just WHERE is this magic button located to propagate USER ID with the
RIN?
In adding new individuals is the USER ID then automatically assigned as is the
RIN or does it have to be manually set?
gc
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I seem to be one brick short today. I didn't realize
Mike Fry wrote
Think about what you've written :-) Family line + generation
is roughly equivalent to an MRIN. You're effectively using a
personalised version of the MRIN filing system.
Well, I have thought but I'm afraid I don't see any connection between
my unique (one per person) User IDs
I have forwarded this, off list, to the author of the Legacy News.
Brian
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leo macdonald wrote
In the Legacy program or folder there is another folder called Data,
this is where I store all my photo that are attached to Legacy program,
As there is also, by default, a Pictures folder within the Legacy
folder, I am curious as to why you do not use that, rather than
Michele Lewis wrote
Am I doing something wrong? Is there a way to make ONE source for an
interview with a person and then make different details with the date
and still conform to Mills?
I presume you are using SourceWriter?
I haven't created an Interview Source before, but I have just
Ron ...does this mean I have to enter scant info in the burial field
and then go to the notes a write again so as to give correct
info for the burial of each and every person...
Richard From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Input of Cemetery
OptionsCustomiseOther at the bottom - left. Any text which is put in the text
box will precede the RIN
Ron Ferguson
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View the Grimshaw Family Tree
Ron .. in other words Legacy limits one in giving clear information
the address of a cemetery may have the county city as mailing
address but it is located on the other end of the county and there
isnt any city close by the cemetery your location field does not
have a place for townships
You can put anything you want in the location field. For burials, I
put the cemetery name, town (if there is one or community name
sometimes for rural areas), county and state. (I don't use the
country unless it is not in US for any of my locations.)
If you want the plot info you can put that
No, The User ID is not automatically filled in when you add new people.
The Options Customize Other Custom User ID process has to be
re-done if you want to populate empty User IDs for added people.
There is an option to only update those with blank User IDs so
previously assigned User IDs
Options Customize Other tab.
No, it wouldn't automatically add the RIN to the User ID field when you add
new individuals. You can select to fill in blank User IDs so after adding a
number of individuals, you can add the RINs to the User ID fields.
Or you can just add the RIN as you're entering
I know what you are talking about having found a
cemetery in Kentucky where some of my ancestors
are, but it is managed and taken care of by the
federal government. (To make a long story short,
the land they purchased included several
cemeteries and it was agreed that they would set
aside
Richard,
You can put whatever you want in the address field. It does show in reports.
Unless you're one who has a mapping fetish, the instructions in the printed
Legacy manaul and in the on-line help section let you do what you want.
Tom Herson
Ithaca, NY
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From:
I used to be an FTM user before I switched to Legacy. On the newsgroups
I read at that time there were many posts about how FTM would steal
the GEDCOM file association each time it was run. I used this method to
outwit FTM then and it should still apply.
Open Windows Explorer
Click on Tools
Richard and Evita Piepho wrote:
Ron .. in other words Legacy limits one in giving clear information
the address of a cemetery may have the county city as mailing
address but it is located on the other end of the county and there
isnt any city close by the cemetery your location field does
RIN - Record Identification Number. Automatically assigned by the database
program as you enter new individuals.
MRIN - Marriage Record Identification Number. Automatically assigned by the
database program as you create new marriages
Thanks for using Legacy.
Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia
Thanks. It's now updated.
Thanks,
Geoff Rasmussen
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Hi Jenny, I'm not sure how, when or why they ended up there, maybe it was when
my computer crashed and I had to reinstall everything, I just know that at
present this is where they are and it works fine, I have no intention of
changing it now. I guess I could rename the file to Pictures. Leo
Richard,
No, quite the opposite. The Burial Location (and all the others) will
accomodate up to 9 fields, more than enough for any address I can think of.
Using it in this way will mean that it is a bit more difficult to use
geo-location to get the co-ordinates, but then one has the full
Jenny M Benson wrote:
But what do you do about photographs which have up to 20 or more family
members on them or photographs which include members of more than one
family line (eg both sets of grandparents)?
--
Well, now you're just being difficult. As I said somewhere else, I
The discussions on converting sources to source writer are very
interesting. I am in the process of converting my FTM 2006 files to
Legacy 7. Because my sources were not always properly entered, they
are a mess. However, I have found that if I create a new source in
Legacy, using the source
Jenny M Benson wrote:
Well, I have thought but I'm afraid I don't see any connection between
my unique (one per person) User IDs numbers and MRINs which, by their
very nature, relate to at least 2 people.
However, that is probably me being dense. I must admit I have never
delved deeply
I didn't really express my self clearly did I, Sherry. I'm still spending too
much time trying to determine whether it's my lap-top or router that's broken!
What I meant to say was that one can create the User ID's based on the RINs in
batches, so they don't have to be done individually when
It's OK. I know what RIN's are. I just don't know how they could be
used for a filing system that would make any sense.
JL
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Sherry/Support wrote:
RIN - Record Identification Number. Automatically assigned
JLB wrote
Well, now you're just being difficult.
Sorry! But I have a few photos like that - weddings or family
get-togethers and I sometimes attach them to Events.
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Jenny - you could use a photo editing piece of software and 'crop'
the person, or persons, wanted and then save it to your Legacy photo
folder. This is a compromise, because sometimes the 'cropping'
leaves the photo somewhat less satisfactory than desired. I have
used
JLB wrote
Using RIN's - How do you, for instance, file census records? Do you
assign a copy of it to each person in every record with their unique ID?
I keep an electronic file (.jpg) of the Census image and a paper copy of
the printed version shown on Ancestry (with some additional
Jenny - you could use a photo editing piece of software and 'crop' the person,
or persons, wanted and then save it to your Legacy photo folder. This is a
compromise, because sometimes the 'cropping' leaves the photo somewhat less
satisfactory than desired. I have used this method and seems to
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If you
That was only meant with a wink. It's not so clear how to file group
pictures.
If it's a wedding then I guess it would easily be filed under the people
whose wedding it is. Well, then do you file it under one person or the
other? Pick male or female and be consistent throughout your
If you were in England, you could switch to family Historian which has
the facility of enabling you to mark individual 'faces' in a group
photograph and tag them with names. So that when you move the mouse
across the picture, names pop up accordingly. Would love to see that
ability added to
I think as some-one else already said, you've managed to work RIN's into
an MRIN system. I would add, except you have alot more numbers to deal
with.
JL
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Jenny M Benson wrote:
JLB wrote
Using RIN's - How
I don't think that my approach is perfect but I use RIN's and have developed
a filing system that combines the last name (maiden name for females) and
the RIN. Just using a number wasn't informative enough for me, and any
filing system that just used names didn't work because I have about 8
Another nice little feature, but does NOT perform as advertised.
After checking Popup Automatically, it allows you to set the number
of seconds to delay the automatic popup. Doesn't matter whether the
delay is set to 10 seconds or 30 seconds, the popup is almost
immediate, which is very annoying
It just about gave me a heart attack every five seconds which is why I
turned it off.
JL
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DimJim wrote:
Another nice little feature, but does NOT perform as advertised.
After checking Popup Automatically, it
Since I have a hard time understanding anyone's filing system except my
own, if I was one of your descendants I would be in big trouble if you
left your genealogy collection to me in your Will. Having read several
others' what-they-consider-dead-simple-no-brainer-filing-systems, mental
fog
I suggested that via the online form but didn't get a positive reply :-( If
more people want this feature then please submit a suggestion direct to Legacy,
if enough people do it they might add it to the future features!
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JLB - Excellent idea and I will set up my method. After a number of trial and
error approaches, I stumbled across the MRIN methodology mentioned elsewhere
and it seems pretty straightforward to me.
Initially I didn't think so, but I understand it better now. e.g., a census -
I make a
Anyone else having a problem with the Search feature in Legacy being
unable to sign in to the IGI? Worked fine yesterday - but would like
to continue - and keep getting There was a problem signing into
familysearch.org -- yet I can sign in from my browser?
Strange..
Keith
--
That is just brilliant Brian. Very clear and very to the point and no
unnecessary questions ? BRAVO.
Where have you been when I have needed help before ?
Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney.
Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin, Wicklow
Wexford
Guild of One-Name
Keith,
Just tried it - no problems here . . .
Bob
GeoSci wrote:
Anyone else having a problem with the Search feature in Legacy being
unable to sign in to the IGI? Worked fine yesterday - but would like
to continue - and keep getting There was a problem signing into
familysearch.org -- yet I
DimJim wrote:
Another nice little feature, but does NOT perform as advertised.
After checking Popup Automatically, it allows you to set the number
of seconds to delay the automatic popup. Doesn't matter whether the
delay is set to 10 seconds or 30 seconds, the popup is almost
immediate, which
Using my pattern of f-pttt-dd I would use something like the
following for your questions:
f-Fpic-PaulMildredJonesDescendants where is the MRIN of
PaulMildredJones (Fpic indicates a Family picture)
f-Fpic-PaulMildredJonesGrandparents again where is the MRIN of
Mike.. good point... Thank you...you give me confidence
most of my family are buried in small rural cemeteries
which I have to give exact locations for family
members to find... many long forgotten cemeteries.. thanks Richard Date: Mon,
25 Aug 2008 18:18:38 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
Linda ...I have a book (150 pages) which I have compiled just for my 17,000
people in my tree
which not only gives the name of the cemetery but the alternate names of the
cemetery, plot number, section of township, township, street address, township
range, latitude longitude usgs map type of
Robert...Yep it does
Richard Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:18:04 -0500 To:
LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:
[LegacyUG] Input of Cemetery Names I know what you are talking about having
found a cemetery in Kentucky where some of my ancestors are, but
I have been having same problem for at least 2 days.
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