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Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 7:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names In Given Field for Reports and Charts
Hi John,
Whether I use a Quoted Name or an AKA is a decision I make on an
individual basis after asking the question
Thank you.
You explanation was very helpful.
john
Cathy wrote:
Hi John,
Whether I use a Quoted Name or an AKA is a decision I make on an
individual basis after asking the question Do I want this name to be
the one used in narratives? If yes - it has to be a quoted name. If
no - it's an
The option to choose is coming in Legacy Charting.
The Quoted name will then either be able to be removed or used as the
First Name as it can be in Legacy itself.
I think it's always best to enter using the conventions of the
program rather than making your own.
If you use Privacy brackets
Thanks.
For some reason, which I thought I saw in LegacyUG that some might enter
Nick names via [[ ]]
When looking at the help it seems to imply to use AKA for Nicknames and
use double quotes for familiar names.
I guess I've always thought a familiar name was a nickname.
I'm going to go
Hi John,
Whether I use a Quoted Name or an AKA is a decision I make on an
individual basis after asking the question Do I want this name to be
the one used in narratives? If yes - it has to be a quoted name. If
no - it's an AKA.
I think the difference is between a name that is always or
Hi Jan,
I think you have some other problem.
There is no problem with quoted name in reports in main sentences or
in event sentences from [FirstHeShe].
No problem with [CR] in Event Sentences.
Build 179
You may try resetting the Report options or deleting the relevant usr.
There is a problem
...
So now I need to go in and locate and change all instances of the
[GivenHeShe] field.
Cheers,
Jan
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: Sunday, 27 January 2008 9:40:PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names
Hi Jan,
I think you have some other problem.
There is no problem with quoted name in reports in main sentences or
in event sentences from [FirstHeShe].
No problem with [CR] in Event Sentences
In a workshop we were taught:
Firstname Nicname Middlename Surname
But here I am seeing:
Firstname Middlename Nicname Surname
Which is the correct standard?
Ralf
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On 23 Feb 2007 Bruce Jones wrote:
It occurred to me that a change in Legacy might help many of us to
better deal with the quoted name issue. If Legacy would search the AKA
field as well as the given name field for quoted names we could put
quoted names in AKAs leaving the given name field
But I only use the given name field for the true legal name. To me, what a
person is called (if not by their legal name) IS a nickname or AKA. So I
would never ever put it in the name field.
For instance, my husbands legal name is Kenneth. In his AKA's, I have Ken
(as well as other things).
names clear when working.
Cary
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Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 11:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names
it the way Legacy is now as it follows sound
genealogical practices.
La Nell
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names
I really didn't like how quoted names looked when someone went by their
middle name: William Ralph Ralph Smith (the repeating of the name just
David,
Sorry to have caused you so much consternation. That was certainly
not my intent.
What I had hoped to convey is a method whereby you and others who are
satisfied with the current implementation would NOT see any change and
would NOT have to do anything differently, while at the same time
leo macdonald wrote
For those of you who choose to use John Paul John Smith, if it work
for you that is all that matters, I would, however, find this method
confusing.
But what if his given names were John Paul but he was always known as
called JP?
I would not put JP in the AKA field as,
For those of you who choose to use John Paul John Smith, if it work for
you that is all that matters, I would, however, find this method confusing.
Leo
Yes, I agree.. Reports etc. use the firrst given name by default, so
unnecessary to add it again as quoted given name.
Regards,
Mary Young
, 2007 9:11 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names
Hi Myrna,
Like everything - it's ultimately up to you and how many names you have -
but also consider how others are going to interpret it.
My mother was Edith Beryl Joyce. She was known as Joyce. I don't
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Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 10:32 PM
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Shame on me for taking the literal interpretation of Also Known As to mean
also known as. So if John Paul Smith was also known
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 09:22:00 +
leo macdonald wrote
For those of you who choose to use John Paul John Smith, if it work for
you that is all that matters, I would, however, find
leo macdonald wrote
Also if a person's birth name is Daniel John Paul Smith and the
everyday name they used was Dan I would enter it as;
Daniel John Paul Smith
In the notes section for this person I would write; Daniel John Paul's
nickname is Dan.
OK if that suits you, I suppose. However,
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From: Wayne Martell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names
What do people do when there is more than one
, February 23, 2007 10:01 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names
What do people do when there is more than one known as name as is the
case
with my daughter.
Her full name is Kathryn Andrea Martell. Some people call her Kathryn,
some
call her Kathy, some
Thanks Cathy (again!).
Rob
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Sent: February 23, 2007 7:43 PM
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Hi Wayne and Rob,
For a range of informal names, you have
for all to see.
Cheers,
Jan
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Sent: Saturday, 24 February 2007 3:01:AM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names
What do people do when there is more than one
I made that Search and Replace mistake once. Fortunately, it was after a
backup, which I restored.
A Search and Replace for space plus single quote with space double quote
works better in this case for the first quote. Then, repeat for single
quote plus space with double quote plus space.
Dear Leo
It has always been my understanding, that the person's full given name
should be left untouched, and the everyday name entered *in addition*, e.g.
John Paul John Smith
or
John Paul Paul Smith
or
John Paul Ginger Smith
Doint it this way, also avoids the quotation mark at beginning of
Mary
I agree with you. If his name is John Paul SMITH and he is known as John
then his name is simply entered as John Paul SMITH. However if he is
known as Paul then he should be John Paul Paul SMITH.
Thus, if he is John Paul Paul SMITH, in Reports, if you chose Remove
quoted given names he
such should be placed??
Gary
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Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 3:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names
Mary
I agree with you
Well shoot! Now I have to go change mine again. I assumed that
using the quoted name, i.e, John Paul Smith would be correct.
So far on the few reports I have done where I told it to use
quoted names it has been correct. Now you are telling me that I
need to go back and put in the full given
, February 22, 2007 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names
Well shoot! Now I have to go change mine again. I assumed that
using the quoted name, i.e, John Paul Smith would be correct.
So far on the few reports I have done where I told it to use
quoted names it has been correct. Now you are telling
Myrna,
I think it should be done when someone goes by their middle name,
putting the middle name in quotes after the middle name not in quotes,
so John Paul Paul Smith, where John never went by his first name,
but was always called Paul.
If you do this and select use quoted names in narratives
If you're happy with what you're doing - stick with it vbg Thank goodness
Legacy allows us to tweak, bend, and even break the so-called rules.
However, if you put quotes round the first Given Name
(a) it throws that name before the As in the index; and
(b) if you put quotes round any Given Name,
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Hagen
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 5:25 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names
I have been doing it the way you do it, Myrna, and I like it that way.
Unless there is a rule that says it should be done the other way
Hi Gary,
If you put the known as name in the AKA, you cannot choose to use
it in narrative.
So your narratives will read:
John married
John worked in the railways
If you use the Quoted Name you'll get
Paul married
Paul worked in the railways.
AKAs - other names for someone. Quoted Name -
Hi Myrna,
Like everything - it's ultimately up to you and how many names you
have - but also consider how others are going to interpret it.
My mother was Edith Beryl Joyce. She was known as Joyce. I don't put
that in an AKA because she wasn't ALSO known as Joyce, she was ALWAYS
known as
Another thing to consider - if you don't put the known as name also as
an AKA, persons who only know the known as name won't be able to find
them in the index. The index gives the option of including AKAs but of
including quoted names.
Lisa
Cathy wrote:
Hi Gary,
If you put the known as
Leo,
Your last example would be redundant. Legacy works as if John Paul
Smith and John Paul John Smith were the same. No sense in typing up
the extra characters.
The one example you left out was John Paul Paul Smith and that is
the one that seems to me will meet your need.
Susan
On 2/22/07,
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cathy
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 8:19 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Quoted Names
Hi Gary,
If you put the known as name in the AKA, you cannot choose to use
it in narrative.
So your narratives will read:
John
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