Re: Recent changes to devel

2022-09-20 Thread Thomas Passin
I see an improvement in that on my Windows system, the freeze time when saving LeoPyRef is now only a few seconds instead of the previous 20 - 30 seconds. That's a worthwhile improvment! On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 12:14:39 PM UTC-4 Edward K. Ream wrote: > PR #2877

Re: A problem with @button write-leoPyRef

2022-09-20 Thread Thomas Passin
Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 12:32:47 PM UTC-4 Edward K. Ream wrote: > On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 11:29 AM Thomas Passin wrote: > > Looking through the write-leoPyRef, I infer that we are expected to create >> a leoPy.leo outline - presumably by saving LeoPyRef by that name, doing a

Re: Recent changes to devel

2022-09-20 Thread Thomas Passin
Great! Can we set up a new milestone, say 6.7.1, so that we can set a target for new issues? On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 12:49:25 PM UTC-4 Edward K. Ream wrote: > Absent new bug reports, I plan no further changes for Leo 6.7.0. Let the > testing continue! > -- You received this message

Re: Discuss: require Qt 6.1+ for Leo 6.7.1?

2022-09-20 Thread Thomas Passin
As always, the problem is most acute for Linux users. Often, the newer packages just aren't available. In some or many Linux distros you are supposed to install things like Qt or even PyQt through the distro's package manager - for example, Debian doesn't have a Python 3.10 package yet. It ca

More Git Magic

2022-09-29 Thread Thomas Passin
>From time to time Git issues show up here. My understanding about using Git is very superficial, to say the least. Today's column from Raymond Chen, in The Old New Thing, discusses a complex situation. I don't really understand it yet, but the post might be worthwhile for other Git users to

Re: LeoInteg 1.0.8 released! Major bug fixes and features update!

2022-09-30 Thread Thomas Passin
Apart from why this isn't working, it looks like the bridge should guard against receiving None here when it expected to get an actual commander; and an error message could be output as well. On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 4:26:04 PM UTC-4 Félix wrote: > Hmm.. that's weird... from your error

Approximate String Searching

2022-10-02 Thread Thomas Passin
Here is a fairly easy way to search in a body of text for a string when there might be single-character errors in a pattern, like searching for "butterfly" but the text has "budterfly". The paper, which I found some years ago, dates back to I think the early 1990s. It has a basic method with

Re: Approximate String Searching

2022-10-03 Thread Thomas Passin
On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 6:18:43 AM UTC-4 Edward K. Ream wrote: > On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 11:57 PM Thomas Passin wrote: > >> Here is a fairly easy way to search in a body of text for a string when >> there might be single-character errors in a pattern, like searching

Re: Need help installing Leo on Windows

2022-10-03 Thread Thomas Passin
I believe you need to type two dashes for the "editable" parameter: pip install --editable On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 7:23:41 AM UTC-4 uu86...@gmail.com wrote: > I also tried to avoid cloud storage and whitespace issues by copying Leo > to another folder, but it did not help either: >

Re: Need help installing Leo on Windows

2022-10-03 Thread Thomas Passin
onday, October 3, 2022 at 8:30:48 AM UTC-4 Thomas Passin wrote: > I believe you need to type two dashes for the "editable" parameter: > > pip install --editable > > > On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 7:23:41 AM UTC-4 uu86...@gmail.com wrote: > >> I also tried to

Re: Need help installing Leo on Windows

2022-10-03 Thread Thomas Passin
ocalCache\local-packages\Python310\site-packages\enchant\__init__.py", > > line 542, in __init__ > super().__init__() > > ... > > What else do I miss? It's hard to believe that Leo can't launch due to > missing hunspell module. > > Thank you once ag

Re: Leo is (and should be) complete

2022-10-03 Thread Thomas Passin
On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 10:08:07 AM UTC-4 uu86...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi Edward, thank you very much for your work! Leo is a great tool and > helps me in my daily life! > > Just in case if you're wondering that could be done next - let me propose > a few ideas. > > 1) Is it possible to mak

Re: Leo Not Starting

2022-10-05 Thread Thomas Passin
You can start it with just one file by adding that file's path to the command line. If you tried several in turn and it only failed on one, you might have found the culprit. On Wednesday, October 5, 2022 at 8:05:07 AM UTC-4 Israel Hands wrote: > First a huge thanks to Edward - I use Leo every

Exception Handling With Decorators

2022-10-05 Thread Thomas Passin
I wondered recently how practical it would be to do exception handling with decorators instead of try...except blocks. This would simplify some functions and methods, and make them easier to read. I found some posts on the Internet about this, and the upshot is that yes, it can be done at lea

Re: Exception Handling With Decorators

2022-10-06 Thread Thomas Passin
Right. The decorator approach doesn't seem to be a general way to go about it. On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 6:29:00 AM UTC-4 Edward K. Ream wrote: > On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 11:58 PM Thomas Passin wrote: > >> I wondered recently how practical it would be to do exception

Re: Need help installing Leo on Windows

2022-10-07 Thread Thomas Passin
gt;>> File >>> "C:\Users\user\Apps\Leo\leo-editor-6.3\leo\commands\spellCommands.py", line >>> 353, in open_dict_file >>> d = enchant.DictWithPWL(language, fn) >>> >>> File >>> "C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Packages\

Interesting Blog Post On Parsers

2022-10-10 Thread Thomas Passin
It's possible to imagine doing more with the text of Leo nodes, such as supporting syntax checking during typing for a range of languages. Here is an interesting post (interesting if you are interested in parsers and parser techniques, anyway) especially for parsers to be used in editors - L

Re: Changing Leo to use a dark theme

2022-10-12 Thread Thomas Passin
You have to add a setting to your *myLeoSettings.leo* file. In fact, that's how you do just about all configuration of Leo. Add a new node as a child of the @settings node at the top of the file. Give the node the headline *@string theme-name = minimal-ui-tbp_dark_solarized *except use the

Re: Opening a leo file via link from leo no longer works

2022-10-15 Thread Thomas Passin
Please post an example of a link in the body, and one in a headline, that don't work. On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 7:46:30 AM UTC-4 Josef wrote: > When a heading points to a leo file, or when a link points to a local leo > file, I could open the leo file in a new tab by ctrl-clicking on the

Re: Opening a leo file via link from leo no longer works

2022-10-15 Thread Thomas Passin
problem, it can probably be fixed with a global search-and-replace. Otherwise, please post examples. On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 8:07:17 AM UTC-4 Thomas Passin wrote: > Please post an example of a link in the body, and one in a headline, that > don't work. > > On Saturday

Re: Problem: markdown export now without blank between hash and section title

2022-10-15 Thread Thomas Passin
I have submitted PR 2912 to fix this issue. When accepted, it will show up in the *devel* branch. In the meantime, you can fix this yourself: 1. Open the leoPyRef outline using the *File/Open Specific Leo File* menu item. 2. Do a search fo

Re: macos 10.13 - leo 6.7.0 with miniconda

2022-10-15 Thread Thomas Passin
You can just open a new Leo session for each outline, either from the command line or using a desktop shortcut. This works on both Windows and Linux, though I don't have a Mac or a Miniconda install to test it on. On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 11:18:52 AM UTC-4 kars...@googlemail.com wrote:

Re: Problem: markdown export now without blank between hash and section title

2022-10-15 Thread Thomas Passin
Update: This PR has been approved and is now in the devel branch. On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 8:52:22 AM UTC-4 Thomas Passin wrote: > I have submitted PR 2912 > <https://github.com/leo-editor/leo-editor/pull/2912> to fix this issue. > When accepted, it will show up in the

Re: macos 10.13 - leo 6.7.0 with miniconda

2022-10-15 Thread Thomas Passin
Yes, you do not need to specify *--gui=qt*. You will get that by default. Every time you run your launch script, you should get a new Leo window. Each one can have just a single outline open if you want. Since the terminal that launched Leo will be busy servicing its Leo instance, you would

Re: macos 10.13 - leo 6.7.0 with miniconda

2022-10-15 Thread Thomas Passin
You could create an issue in Github requesting an enhancement. To me, the easiest programming option would probably be to have a menu item in the Windows menu that opens a dialog listing the open outlines. More desirable would perhaps be to list them all in the Windows menu, but I don't know i

Re: macos 10.13 - leo 6.7.0 with miniconda

2022-10-15 Thread Thomas Passin
It looks like *Horizontal Tile*, *Vertical Tile*, and *Detach* all do the same thing. And what they do isn't what @kars wants, I think. On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 10:14:27 PM UTC-4 lewis wrote: > With a set of tabs open, if you Right-click over the active Tab there is a > menu of: > > >

Re: ENB: Simple design principles for style sheets

2018-03-12 Thread Thomas Passin
or, if your app settings on Windows are working right, just os.system(r"start C:\path_to_outline\test.leo") This way, the starting console closes immediately. True, you have to edit the @command ...@key contents if you want to open some other outline (workbook.leo might be a good place for t

Re: The design of Leo+Ipython+Jupyter+Lit-computing

2018-03-12 Thread Thomas Passin
claratives ... On Saturday, March 10, 2018 at 9:46:12 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > Do you happen to know if it's feasible to use QML widgets in Leo? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe

Re: Syntax colorizer change for html

2018-03-31 Thread Thomas Passin
I've also had a lot of problems adjusting colors in themes. One thing I discovered is that the presence of the node with headline "@data qt-gui-plugin-style-sheet" has font and color settings that make the desired changes when none of the other settings - the ones that are supposed to work - h

Re: Soon! valuespace and jupyter

2018-03-31 Thread Thomas Passin
I think we can go one better ... that is, to be able to put Leo organizer nodes between Jupyter nodes. The organizer nodes could contain Markdown, Rst, @file or @clean trees, or what have you. That would give us the ability to further annotate or adapt jupyter nodes beyond what their authors

Re: ENB: Prototyping themes without changing code

2018-03-31 Thread Thomas Passin
Even easier: Turn the @settings node headline into @@settings. Now there are no settings to load. You can even start a new, clean @settings tree, all without renaming the file. On Saturday, March 17, 2018 at 8:07:55 PM UTC-4, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > > > > *Part 2: Disable myLeoSettings.leo*E

Re: A study outline containing eric6 docs

2018-04-01 Thread Thomas Passin
I think there is a copyright issue with publishing this information in another form besides the original pdf. The doc is marked Copyright ©2007-2017 Detlev Offenbach I didn't see that it is allowed to be freely copied. On Thursday, February 22, 2018 at 7:56:25 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote

Re: Rendering math in Leo

2018-06-10 Thread Thomas Passin
To contribute to this thread after many months: Actually, python-markdown does support math via mathjax, if you install mdx_math and use it as one of the extensions. mdx_math is just a python file - you can install it using pip - so it will work on any python installation. To use it in viewre

Re: Import freemind files into leo

2018-06-22 Thread Thomas Passin
Good move, since ElementTree is included in the standard Python distro (there was a time when it wasn't). On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 6:07:54 AM UTC-4, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 4:59 AM, Frederic Fichter > wrote: > > Looks like the freemind import is simply not avail

Re: How to retire --no-cache?

2018-06-27 Thread Thomas Passin
Despite what you say, I suggest keeping this option as a do-nothing option. No "fix" need ever be issued, or at least not until it is devised and convenient. Leo could print a deprecation message to the (error) console or log pane, or a message saying that caching is no longer used. Why brea

Math in viewrendered

2019-11-21 Thread Thomas Passin
Math doesn't show up in viewrendered for either @rst or @md nodes. There's a setting for vr-math-output = mathjax, but the mathjax isn't rendering for me. The obsolete viewrendered2 was able to show math for @rst nodes, so it must be feasible. What has to be configured to show math symbols

Leo File Name Is Not Displayed In Title Bar

2019-11-23 Thread Thomas Passin
I just noticed that in my installation of Leo 6.1, the name of the current leo file is not displayed in the title bar of Leo's window. In previous versions (at least up to 5.9 - I skipped 6.0), it was. Is there a launch option or a setting that will get the file names displayed again? If not,

Re: Thomas Passin, does rev 028f4b (in devel) fix #1444 or #1445?

2019-12-10 Thread Thomas Passin
I just found that the problem went away when I deleted the Leo database directory. I added a comment to that effect in #1444. It must have something to do with the fact that I have used both Leo 5.9/python 2.7/QT4 and Leo 61/python 3.8/QT4 alternately. Somehow some things cached in the databa

Pyodide - Like Jython for Javascript With Jupyter-like Notebooks

2019-12-15 Thread Thomas Passin
I just stumbled onto Pyodide, and it's very impressive. It produces Jupyter-like notebooks in a browser. What's really amazing to me is that they have managed to get things so that python code can call javascript and javascript can call Python, all within a browser. They don't have every pos

Re: Pyodide - Like Jython for Javascript With Jupyter-like Notebooks

2019-12-16 Thread Thomas Passin
o, of course. I'm working an a QT5 version of Vewrendred2. It's about halfway there. On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 10:09:40 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > > > On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 5:40 PM Thomas Passin > wrote: > >> I just stumbled onto Pyodide,

Progress on ViewRendered2

2019-12-27 Thread Thomas Passin
I have made a lot of progress on re-implementing *Viewrendered2 *in the QT5 era, and I wanted to share where I am with it. To quickly summarize what VR2 added to *viewrendered *for @rst (Restructured Text) trees: - It can render an entire @rst tree, rather than a singe node. - It can expor

PDF output for RsT/Sphinx documents works again

2019-12-27 Thread Thomas Passin
With the change to Python 3+ for Leo, I found I couldn't build Sphinx documents to PDF, using rst2pdf. It only worked for Python 2.x, not 3.x. I've done some work on it, and I'm happy to say that I have had some success. First of all, the Github repo for rst2pdf has had some updates since the

Re: Why is Script 'leo-m.exe' not available in Leo 6.1-final on PyPI?

2019-12-27 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, December 26, 2019 at 2:49:52 PM UTC-5, Matt Wilkie wrote: > > Why is the script 'leo-m.exe' available in the development-/ beta version >> of Leo (e.g. 6.1-b1-devel) but not in the master-/ final version of Leo >> (e.g. 6.1-final) at PyPI? >> > > It's because master lags behind dev

Re: Progress on ViewRendered2

2020-01-03 Thread Thomas Passin
On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 6:35:04 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > I have made a lot of progress on re-implementing *Viewrendered2 *in the > QT5 era, and I wanted to share where I am with it. > Here's the new work as of today: - I completely re-implemented the code th

Re: HOWTO: Display reStructuredText with stylesheets using the Viewrendered2 plugin

2020-01-06 Thread Thomas Passin
Five years later, I have a suggestion about these stylesheet problems. You can get pygments to generate a stylesheet for you. There are various styles, and I just used the one named "default": pygmentize -S default -f html > pygments.css (pygmentize gets installed with "pip install pygments")

Re: Leo and the Best of the Rest

2020-01-11 Thread Thomas Passin
On Tuesday, January 7, 2020 at 5:35:22 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > ... > Iirc, my conclusion is that a more rigid tree view has advantages over > graphical views. > > Having said that, Leo got its start because I had trouble understanding > complex programs isn't easy. Just yesterday I

Re: Progress on ViewRendered2

2020-01-13 Thread Thomas Passin
I'm happy to say that the new viewrendered3 plugin now has everything working that I wanted for the first phase. An entire tree can be displayed (instead of just a single node). The viewing pane can display only the code blocks if desired. Code in a node or tree can be executed and the outpu

Re: Leo and the Best of the Rest

2020-01-13 Thread Thomas Passin
On Saturday, January 11, 2020 at 11:48:11 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > >> Neither words, words, words, nor outlines, nor pretty graphs seem like >> the solution. Hmm. What else is there, except for experience? Ah, I'm >> forgetting How-To's. That&#x

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-01-25 Thread Thomas Passin
On Saturday, January 18, 2020 at 8:45:08 PM UTC-5, Chris George wrote: > > > Using clones you can create whatever organizational scheme you like. Add > in a couple of plugins, like bookmarks, tags, and backlinks, and that > ability explodes. > > One Leo feature for organization that I use a lot

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-01-26 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 5:18:17 PM UTC-5, Matt Wilkie wrote: > > > [later] After reading http://leoeditor.com/slides/plugins.html#unl-py I > see there is also @url for use in headlines. It's smart enough to open a > specific node, not just the file > > @url > D:/code/studies/study-sho

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-01-29 Thread Thomas Passin
On Wednesday, January 29, 2020 at 10:45:58 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > Many thanks to all. I've only just now got back to this thread and > gratified to see tips have kept coming in. It will take me awhile to check > all these out but it looks good indeed. > > I also want to put in a plug he

Re: So how do you arrange panes now?

2020-01-29 Thread Thomas Passin
On Tuesday, January 28, 2020 at 6:16:14 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 3:00 PM 'tfer' via leo-editor < > leo-e...@googlegroups.com > wrote: > > > Used to be a "Toggle split direction" command that would let have two > columns, outline and log on the Left, body on the

Re: Using Vitalije's code patterns

2020-01-29 Thread Thomas Passin
On Tuesday, January 7, 2020 at 7:58:41 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > While working on leoAst.py, I have come to understand more fully several > of Vitalije's suggested code patterns: > > *Prefer functions to classes/methods* > > Classes and methods are essential in python. They aren't goin

Re: Using Vitalije's code patterns

2020-01-29 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 12:10:50 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > Class B: > func2(self, parms) = A.func1 > Oops, I meant to write Class B: func2 = A.func1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor&qu

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-01-30 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 7:23:11 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 10:35 PM Thomas Passin > wrote: > > I put a lot of time some years ago looking into how to get the most out of >> my browser bookmarks, and I arrived at some of the sam

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-01-30 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 7:23:11 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > ... > This page > > > lists lists principles of Zettlekasten. The "unique home" principle might

Re: So how do you arrange panes now?

2020-01-30 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 12:26:59 AM UTC-5, tfer wrote: > > Thanks Edward and Tom, I'll have to check these out. Anyone using Leo with > Windows !0 virtual desktops > Yes, every day. It works fine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-ed

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-01-30 Thread Thomas Passin
minimal hand effort if possible. I think only a couple of these will import, which is one reason I turned to > Leo, besides that I think Leo's capabilities for this kind of thing are > probably more robust, just need to be wrapped together in a neat package. > But what do I kno

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-01-31 Thread Thomas Passin
On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 4:54:50 AM UTC-5, vitalije wrote: > > There is one program that I immediately thought of after reading a few > pages about Zettelkasten: fossil and its wiki > feature. It is a single executable (a rather small one ~ 2-3Mb), that can > wor

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-01-31 Thread Thomas Passin
On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 9:26:31 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > With a set of text (including say Markdown) files, one can fall back to > full text searches if no other system ends up working well enough. Or even > to keeping a paper Zettel-box that refers to th

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-01-31 Thread Thomas Passin
As I think about how Leo could be useful with the zettel-box approach, I do see a way. But it's not to have each note be a node in a Leo outline. Can you imagine trying to work with thousands or tens of thousands of nodes in the outline pane? Instead, I can see using an @zettel tree whereby

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-03 Thread Thomas Passin
On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 6:48:32 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 10:40 AM Thomas Passin > wrote: > >> >> Can you imagine trying to work with thousands or tens of thousands of >> nodes in the outline pane? >> &g

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-03 Thread Thomas Passin
On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 6:06:33 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > Sure wish I were a programmer. Sometimes I've thought maybe I should dive > into programming just to gain the skills to build this myself, but I think > that's likely way too ambitious, especially at my age. > But if/when so

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-03 Thread Thomas Passin
On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 7:03:04 PM UTC-5, Matt Wilkie wrote: > > > In my opinion writing out an ideal interface (or more accurately: work, > process and interaction flows) are worth doing, if only to clarify for self > what is being sought. I've found it valuable for myself at any rate.

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-04 Thread Thomas Passin
On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 10:36:59 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > Thomas, sorry for my ignorance but what do I need to do to view your HTML > file rendered? I can dig out the text as is, but rendering it would make > it a lot easier. I'm not HTML literate. > Do you see that there is a l

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-04 Thread Thomas Passin
On Tuesday, February 4, 2020 at 5:25:45 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > > Length is not your friend in convincing others. > Length can be unavoidable, when there are many interacting parts. But each of those parts is better when compact. But there's an art here - too terse can be be hard

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-04 Thread Thomas Passin
Here's something interesting. Remember the Memex, described by Vannebar Bush in 1945? It sounded like a mixture of the Web and a zettelkasten, with better media input means than perhaps we have today. Well, someone is trying to actually build one, or at least something as close as he can get

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-04 Thread Thomas Passin
I have put the HTML file on my server at http://tompassin.net/pub/zettel/zettel_requirements.html You can just open it in your browser at that address. On Tuesday, February 4, 2020 at 8:04:06 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 10:36:59 PM UTC-5, andy

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-04 Thread Thomas Passin
On Tuesday, February 4, 2020 at 9:43:17 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > Here's something interesting. Remember the Memex, described by Vannebar > Bush in 1945? It sounded like a mixture of the Web and a zettelkasten, > with better media input means than perhaps we

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-04 Thread Thomas Passin
Here's another potentially useful paper - http://people.csail.mit.edu/msbernst/papers/p337-vankleek.pdf The actual software project is now defunct, but we might get some ideas from it. On Tuesday, February 4, 2020 at 9:43:17 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > Here's somet

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-04 Thread Thomas Passin
I'm not up on the current books, but here's a possible starting point - https://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide One thing to keep in mind. There are two series of Python - 2.x and 3.x. They are basically very similar but have a few differences. Even though 3.xx has been the main release

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-04 Thread Thomas Passin
On Tuesday, February 4, 2020 at 6:41:00 PM UTC-5, stevelitt wrote: > > > > Length can be unavoidable, when there are many interacting parts. > > That's when you need a diagram. > Right. What a pain that we can't have diagrams in an ordinary text file. Grrr. Although the Viewrendered3 plugi

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-05 Thread Thomas Passin
On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 4:00:08 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > > > On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 7:01 PM Thomas Passin > wrote: > >> I'm not up on the current books, but here's a possible starting point - >> >> https://wiki.python.org/moin/

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-06 Thread Thomas Passin
On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 10:30:26 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > Thomas, tell me if this is an inappropriate suggestion, but I wonder if > this thread has pretty much played out its level of pertinence and interest > to the Leo community, since it's not directly about Leo and may be on

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-06 Thread Thomas Passin
Andy, thanks for your comments. I will give my reaction to them in a series of posts, one per item. On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 9:52:45 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > I'm attaching my responses to the requirements you wrote, Thomas I'm > thrilled there is more interest here than I had thoug

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 4]

2020-02-06 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 10:59:37 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > Andy, thanks for your comments. I will give my reaction to them in a > series of posts, one per item. > Continuing my reactions to your comments - 4. Unique Identification @andyjim: "I propose YYMM

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-06 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 11:18:39 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > > On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 10:59:37 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: >> >> Andy, thanks for your comments. I will give my reaction to them in a >> series of posts, one per item.

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 10]

2020-02-06 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 11:18:39 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > > On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 10:59:37 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: >> >> Andy, thanks for your comments. I will give my reaction to them in a >> series of posts, one per item.

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-06 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 11:04:30 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > attached is my first draft for a zettel format. > Thanks. Here's my first cut at a format. It's designed to be easy to type and easy to read. All the keyword data items are optional. I can tell you that it will be alm

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Experimental Markdown format for a zettel]

2020-02-06 Thread Thomas Passin
On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 12:00:43 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > > On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 11:04:30 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: >> >> attached is my first draft for a zettel format. >> > > Thanks. Here's my first cut at a format.

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Experimental Restructuered Text format for a zettel]

2020-02-07 Thread Thomas Passin
> On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 12:00:43 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 11:04:30 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: >>> >>> attached is my first draft for a zettel format. >>> >> >> Thanks.

Goals for Viewrendered3

2020-02-07 Thread Thomas Passin
Viewrendered3 is finally close to preliminary release, after I got diverted by a few red herrings. As I clean up the anomalies I know about, please look over the attached set of goals for the project. I don't want to seriously enlarge the scope at this time, but if anyone thinks that somethin

Re: Goals for Viewrendered3

2020-02-08 Thread Thomas Passin
On Saturday, February 8, 2020 at 4:35:37 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 1:56 PM Thomas Passin > wrote: > >> One thing that is still up in the air for me is the relationship between >> *viewrendered >> *and *vr3* >> > > I

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 4]

2020-02-08 Thread Thomas Passin
On Saturday, February 8, 2020 at 2:15:42 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > Seems this issue needs a lot of thought. Niklas Luhmann's zettels had > numerical ID numbers, without textual clues as to their content. And it > was a paper system. And he certainly didn't work by remembering filenames >

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-10 Thread Thomas Passin
On Saturday, February 8, 2020 at 11:41:38 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > Speaking for myself, with my use case, where the system is for thoughts, I > want as little clutter and distraction as possible, which is the main > reason I’ve never even used markdown. When I’m thinking and writing my > t

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-11 Thread Thomas Passin
On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 9:54:53 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > Anybody know how to recover old MS Word 2003 files where I've lost the > password? > *Maybe* ... These are some solutions out there to be found through an internet query. A few of them look relatively simple. How practical

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-12 Thread Thomas Passin
On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 11:55:38 AM UTC-5, stevelitt wrote: > > On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 15:36:36 -0800 (PST) > andyjim > wrote: > > > > My thought is to arrange all this in external plain text files > > initially, with the outline organization being in Leo, leaving the > > files external

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-12 Thread Thomas Passin
On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 7:56:31 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 10:55:38 AM UTC-6, stevelitt wrote: > > So you could have a hotkey with the command "inkscape myimage.svg", >> another one "libreoffice mybook.odt", and another one "leo >> my_trip_pl

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-13 Thread Thomas Passin
On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 8:36:01 PM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > > > On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 3:24 PM Thomas Passin > wrote: > > > @ekr, are the identifiers for Leo nodes globally unique, or only within > an outline? > > gnx's (*global*

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-13 Thread Thomas Passin
On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 9:54:53 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: Maybe it's as simple as entering my UID manually when I prep a file for the > parser, though in that case I would not be using the full YYMMDDHHMMSS > format, probably just YYMMDDxx, since date will be the finest granularity > a

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-13 Thread Thomas Passin
On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 10:58:01 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > A node for each zettel? Thousands of them? > Well, yes, that's what I've been been envisioning. Having thousands of them - whether they are represented as Leo nodes or some other way - will require us to be smart at comi

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-14 Thread Thomas Passin
On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 7:50:56 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 7:08 PM Thomas Passin > wrote: > > > Using Leo, and making each note be a separate node, we can get just > that kind of ID for free. > > Not "kinda" for f

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-14 Thread Thomas Passin
Ha! After seeing references to uAs over and over, I finally learn what they are. On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 7:42:09 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 6:28 PM Thomas Passin > wrote: > > And - maybe this is weird - would there be any problem ad

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-14 Thread Thomas Passin
On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 9:28:32 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > I have written an initial set of user requirements (attached), and I would > appreciate your thoughts on them. These are very high level requirements, > and they don't include any actual user inter

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-14 Thread Thomas Passin
On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 12:27:31 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > One thing I wish I understood better is the acyclic graph model, how that > plays out in Leo and what it accomplishes for us in organization/linking. > It's not too hard to grasp the basics, @andyjim. A graph is a set of nod

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-14 Thread Thomas Passin
On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 12:27:31 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > And Thomas, perhaps I need to read your papers on semantic processing > (haven't done so yet), as it seems that's more or less what the > zettelkasten model offers (maybe the Leo model, in fact), and it appears > you are b

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-15 Thread Thomas Passin
On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 5:06:30 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > 3. Simple Section Demarkations > For distraction-free creative/productive activity I'd like to be able to > optionally see only the text body, or, (and maybe the following belongs > under Display) in a collection/stack of

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-15 Thread Thomas Passin
On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 5:06:30 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > 5. Hierarchical Navigation > The way I see this playing out for me: I will seek a minimal set of > 'highest level' or 'encompassing' headings, the least number under which I > can class everything. Every zettel must (event

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-15 Thread Thomas Passin
On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 5:06:30 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > 6. Link Navigation > And these links are (or can be) embedded in text, right? Do they, or can > they, also link directly to a specific place in the target note, or simply > to the note as a unit? Another way to say that: c

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-16 Thread Thomas Passin
On Sunday, February 16, 2020 at 10:07:07 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 10:13:03 PM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: >> >> >>> >>> 7. Time Stamp >>> agreed generally. I do want date of origin, and I would like

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