Re: LFS-alphabetical: groff before perl

2006-01-15 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Dan Nicholson wrote: On 1/11/06, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My gut feeling is that cleaning the toolchain might remove a lot of differences (ar archives, and programs linked statically) which (at least in lfs-svn) show up between the first and second builds, pa

Re: LFS-alphabetical: groff before perl

2006-01-11 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/11/06, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Certainly farce shows perl, vim, and nscd were compiled at different > times - open farce-substitiutions in view to see what got replaced by > tokens (and yes, 2.3.6 in nscd is probably a library version although it > got matched to regex KV02).

Re: LFS-alphabetical: groff before perl

2006-01-11 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006, Dan Nicholson wrote: http://students.washington.edu/dbnichol/lfs/lfs-alpha-20060108-reports/ica/REPORT.1V2 http://students.washington.edu/dbnichol/lfs/lfs-alpha-20060108-reports/farce/1v2/farce-differ http://students.washington.edu/dbnichol/lfs/lfs-alpha-20060108-reports/farc

Re: LFS-alphabetical: groff before perl

2006-01-10 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, Ken Moffat wrote: No, I'm seeing differences specific to groff-1.18.1, but actually these aren't to do with date/time (unlike the 3 regexps I put into 001-6 for this version of groff). Stuff like failure in /usr/share/doc/groff/1.18.1/meintro.ps... 1590,1592c1590,1592 < (

Re: LFS-alphabetical: groff before perl

2006-01-10 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, Dan Nicholson wrote: Ken, the same thing has happened to me with perl. Sometimes a difference is reported. sometimes not. For both farce and ICA, IIRC. It's the single reason why I keep moving gettext around in my builds even though it comes after perl in both cases. I th

Re: LFS-alphabetical: groff before perl

2006-01-10 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, Dan Nicholson wrote: Seems OK to me. Is this what you're seeing? No, I'm seeing differences specific to groff-1.18.1, but actually these aren't to do with date/time (unlike the 3 regexps I put into 001-6 for this version of groff). Stuff like failure in /usr/share/do

Re: LFS-alphabetical: groff before perl

2006-01-10 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/10/06, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, Ken Moffat wrote: > > > So, at the moment I have > > an aberrant build of perl in the first run of the fourth cycle, and at the > > moment I can't replicate it. > > Latest attempt to build this was fine, so I'll have to mar

Re: LFS-alphabetical: groff before perl

2006-01-10 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/10/06, Jeremy Huntwork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 06:17:41AM -0800, Dan Nicholson wrote: > > diff -ur iter1/usr/share/doc/groff/1.19.2/examples/grnexmpl.ps > > iter2/usr/share/doc/groff/1.19.2/examples/grnexmpl.ps > > Um. You're using groff 1.19.2. Is that causing any

Re: LFS-alphabetical: groff before perl

2006-01-10 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 06:17:41AM -0800, Dan Nicholson wrote: > diff -ur iter1/usr/share/doc/groff/1.19.2/examples/grnexmpl.ps > iter2/usr/share/doc/groff/1.19.2/examples/grnexmpl.ps Um. You're using groff 1.19.2. Is that causing any differences? Did I miss a note about that somewhere? -- JH --

Re: LFS-alphabetical: groff before perl

2006-01-10 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/10/06, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, Ken Moffat wrote: > > > So, at the moment I have > > an aberrant build of perl in the first run of the fourth cycle, and at the > > moment I can't replicate it. > > Latest attempt to build this was fine, so I'll have to mar

Re: LFS-alphabetical: groff before perl

2006-01-10 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, Ken Moffat wrote: So, at the moment I have an aberrant build of perl in the first run of the fourth cycle, and at the moment I can't replicate it. Latest attempt to build this was fine, so I'll have to mark my problem as "unconfirmed". Looks as if I've still got issue

Re: LFS-alphabetical: groff before perl

2006-01-09 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, Ken Moffat wrote: On Mon, 9 Jan 2006, Dan Nicholson wrote: I'm pretty sure the perl, vim and nscd differences are time stamp related. What you could also do is copy one of the filelist- files, edit it to *only* reference these three files (and give it a second name, by

Re: LFS-alphabetical: groff before perl

2006-01-09 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006, Dan Nicholson wrote: I'm pretty sure the perl, vim and nscd differences are time stamp related. Ken, farce does quite a bit more analysis than Greg's ICA functions. Would you mind looking at these results and commenting on differences between the ICA report and the farce re

Re: LFS-alphabetical: groff before perl

2006-01-09 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/9/06, Jeremy Huntwork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Alright. Let me see if I'm parsing you correctly. ;) This file > represents the order you've been testing, correct? > > http://students.washington.edu/dbnichol/lfs/lfs-alpha-20060108-reports/scripts.list > > And from your ICA on the above li

Re: LFS-alphabetical: groff before perl

2006-01-09 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Dan Nicholson wrote: ICA is done, and there are no differences. Groff is not a dependency of perl AFAICT. Jeremy, what do you think about this? I'll have the reports up at http://students.washington.edu/lfs/lfs-alpha-20060108 soon. Alright. Let me see if I'm parsing you correctly. ;) This fi

Re: LFS-alphabetical: groff before perl

2006-01-09 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/9/06, Dan Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ICA is done, and there are no differences. Groff is not a dependency > of perl AFAICT. Jeremy, what do you think about this? I'll have the > reports up at http://students.washington.edu/lfs/lfs-alpha-20060108 > soon. > Typo. Try http://s

Re: LFS-alphabetical: groff before perl

2006-01-09 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/8/06, Dan Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As I said above, you can get around this by changing the configure statement > to > > ./configure.gnu --prefix=/usr \ > -Dman1dir=/usr/share/man/man1 \ > -Dman3dir=/usr/share/man/man3 \ > -Dpager="/usr/bin/less -isR" > A full I

Re: LFS-alphabetical: groff before perl

2006-01-08 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 12/22/05, Archaic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I say if using switches versus moving groff both result in identical > binaries, then switches are probably easier and better in that the > explanation of the switch is the perfect forum to mention that perl is > looking for groff but doesn't actual

Re: LFS-alphabetical: groff before perl

2005-12-22 Thread Archaic
On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 12:47:46PM +0100, Nico R. wrote: > > What say the others? I say if using switches versus moving groff both result in identical binaries, then switches are probably easier and better in that the explanation of the switch is the perfect forum to mention that perl is looking

Re: LFS-alphabetical: groff before perl

2005-12-22 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 12/22/05, Alexander E. Patrakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nico R. wrote: > > > I haven't actually built a system from the alphabetical branch, but in > > situations like this one, I usually prefer using some configure > > switches. But that may be due to the fact that I like to have more > >

Re: LFS-alphabetical: groff before perl

2005-12-22 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Nico R. wrote: I haven't actually built a system from the alphabetical branch, but in situations like this one, I usually prefer using some configure switches. But that may be due to the fact that I like to have more control and dislike badly written configure scripts which have broken tests, pr

Re: LFS-alphabetical: groff before perl

2005-12-22 Thread Nico R.
Dan Nicholson wrote: Who hates the perl build system? I do, I do. Me too. %-| I can't tell you how long it took to figure this out since it appears the perl build system was written by a high school student. ??? ;-) Now, we could just add some mandir= type statements to configure.gnu, bu

LFS-alphabetical: groff before perl

2005-12-21 Thread Dan Nicholson
Who hates the perl build system? I do, I do. OK, so this is very strange and may not be necessary and others don't seem to have this issue, but... When building perl in Ch. 6 of the LFS ALPHABETICAL-20051216, I kept getting the man pages installed in the root directory. This was very obnoxious,