Re: SUSE s390 - Zebra installation problems

2002-11-12 Thread Michael.Megson
Mark, I also thought that it was part of the distribution, it is on my desktop but not on the Enterprise Server 7. I have been looking for a s390x level zebra from SuSE but as yet been unable to find one. Anybody any idea's ?? Mick Megson -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailt

Oracle and other matters

2002-11-12 Thread John Summerfield
Security researchers are warning of a potentially nasty buffer over-run flaw in Oracle Database 9i databases. http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/28057.html We do hate to rain on a high-profile corporate love-fest, but we have to point out that in addition to the much trumpeted $100 million Bi

glibc 2.2.5 & SuSE SLES 7

2002-11-12 Thread John Ducker
--- Received from FPU.DUCKEJ 7993393 12-11-02 18:19 -> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, we have SuSE SLES 7 running on VM 4.2. We need to have the Java JDK 1.3.1 installed, which we are confident of doing, but unfortunately it needs glibc 2.2.4 or higher which seems trickier. We we

Paolo Paraboschi/Italy/IBM è fuori ufficio.

2002-11-12 Thread Paolo Paraboschi
I will be out of the office starting November 13, 2002 and will not return until November 21, 2002. Sono ad un conference a Roma. Ti risponderò al mio ritorno. Saluti

linux/390 support

2002-11-12 Thread Tom Rusnak
Please forgive any ignorance in this question, yet another MVS techie dipping a toe into the linux world. We are looking to create a Linux/390 LPAR on an H30 and we are trying to figure out the "support" arrangements for the base operating system. With (MVS, OS/390, Z/OS) we ring up the IBM suppo

Re: Expanded Storage Question

2002-11-12 Thread Post, Mark K
Paul, As someone else pointed out, VM still can get some additional performance out of expanded storage. Someone else mentioned xpram, but perhaps the best use is Vdisk for swap. Linux can swap all it wants to the vdisk, and VM will see if parts of that aren't being referenced, and page it out t

Amanda on Linux S390

2002-11-12 Thread James Johnson
Is anyone using Amanda to backup Linux dasd and would you mind sharing your configuration files? James Johnson Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Programmer Voice: 660-543-8065 Central Missouri State University Fax: 660-543-8123

Re: Expanded Storage Question

2002-11-12 Thread Robert J Brenneman
It has been said that the VM paging algorithms are tuned for 3 levels of storage, and you will get better performance by giving VM some XSTORE to play with. I would start with 5 gig of central and 1 gig of expanded storage, and play with the ratio from there. Here is a nice writeup on this: http:/

Re: Expanded Storage Question

2002-11-12 Thread paultz
If I had a 'green with envy' emoticon, I'd use it here. But since I'm stuck in the past, tell me why you don't configure a 64 bit machine running a 64 bit OS as all real storage? I thought expanded was to be a thing of the past? But as I said, z boxes are just a day dream for me. Paul ===

Re: Expanded Storage Question

2002-11-12 Thread McKown, John
I set up my z/800 z/VM LPAR to be all Central Storage, no Expanded. z/VM supports this. The Linux/390 guests can then use this storage. Linux/390 cannot, to the best of my knowledge, use Expanded Storage at all. Since z/VM and z/Linux are both running 64 bit, this should work well. Note that I have

Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Post, Mark K
They're quite old, and hence vulnerable. I agree that if Pat's company paid for support after the install that DSG should be able to provide them with updated versions. I've probably got newer versions laying around for SuSE 7.0 myself. I should probably go look for them. Mark Post -Origin

Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Dave O'Neill
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 05:39:20AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: > On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > # rpm -qa '*ssh*' > > rpm: extra arguments given for query of all packages > [ snip ] > > The oldest system I have is RHL 7.2 and it works there. Red Hat ships with a newer version

Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Adam Thornton
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 02:46:42PM -0500, Abruzzese, Pat wrote: > I running SuSE 7.0 (s390) Kernel 2.2.16 this is not from Marist. It was > installed by Denver Solutions for me. Unless you explicitly have no post-installation support from Denver Solutions, you should also probably get your money's

Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread John Summerfield
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> try this > >> rpm -qa | grep ssh > > >or in one command, > >rpm -qa '*ssh*' > > # rpm -qa '*ssh*' > rpm: extra arguments given for query of all packages Odd. I see you quoted it too. [summer@orange summer]$ rpm -qa '*ssh*' openssh-server-3.4p1-2

Re: Expanded Storage Question

2002-11-12 Thread Post, Mark K
Ann, You're going to want to configure some of that for expanded as well. Just how to split it up, I really couldn't say. I'm sure (hey Barton!) someone on the list would be better qualified than I. M. z800's. M. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Ann Smith [mailto:annsmith@

Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Mark . Pace
>> try this >> rpm -qa | grep ssh >or in one command, >rpm -qa '*ssh*' # rpm -qa '*ssh*' rpm: extra arguments given for query of all packages

Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread John Summerfield
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Abruzzese, Pat wrote: > My Unix group will be installing an application under the VM Linux. They > want to access Linux using SSH instead of TELNET. Where can I get SSH for > Linux. openssh is on your Linux CD. -- Cheers John. Please, no off-list mail. You will fall foul

Re: Backups of Linux volume

2002-11-12 Thread John Summerfield
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Alan Cox wrote: > On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 18:22, Gowans, Chuck wrote:s. > > The IPLs fail at assorted points in the boot process. We are thinking that > > we now may have to shut down the guests in order to get reliable backups. > > > > That sounds a lot more drastic a failure

Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread John Summerfield
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Mark D Pace wrote: > >I look around for it and can't find it. Which directory would it be > located. > >This is not a Marist file system. > >P. Abruzzese > > try this > rpm -qa | grep ssh or in one command, rpm -qa '*ssh*' > This will tell you if an ssh package has been ins

Re: CPU Arch Security

2002-11-12 Thread Scott Courtney
On Tuesday 12 November 2002 11:58 am, Gregg C Levine wrote: > Actually that was my reaction. The demonstration packet that they sent > me, was the thing that did it. The terms, "kludge", and "clumsy", and a > few others that were not polite, crossed my mined, at the time. And you > are right about

Expanded Storage Question

2002-11-12 Thread Ann Smith
We are getting a z800 with 8 gig of storage. We will have a regular engine running VM apps that will use 1 gig central, 1 gig expanded. How do we divide up the remaining 6 gig for the LPAR that has the IFL engine dedicated to it? This LPAR is strictly for zVM running LINUX guests. I tried to search

Re: SSH instead of TELNET - In regards to S/390 ----> Linux

2002-11-12 Thread Guillermo Freige
There is a partially working port in SG24-5944 Redbook, "Open Source Software for z/OS and OS/390 UNIX". I think the code isn't included in the tar file because of copyright problems, but the OpenSSH and OpenSSL chapter describes all the modifications to the code to obtain a working SSH. It only wo

Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Post, Mark K
Pat, Perhaps it wasn't installed. If you're running the original SuSE distribution, you need to go to ftp://ftp.suse.de/pub/suse/s390/7.0/sec1 and download the RPMs there. You should probably install mod_ssl.rpm, openssh.rpm and openssl.rpm. It wouldn't hurt to install the others as well. The

Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Abruzzese, Pat
Mark, I running SuSE 7.0 (s390) Kernel 2.2.16 this is not from Marist. It was installed by Denver Solutions for me. vr, P. Abruzzese > -Original Message- > From: Post, Mark K [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:54 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: R

Re: SSH instead of TELNET - In regards to S/390 ----> Linux

2002-11-12 Thread Dave Jones
There is an Open SSH implementation at: http://s390.nichols.de/ssh/index.html That might be of some use. Dave Jones Sine Nomine Associates Houston, TX - Original Message - From: "Gregg C Levine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:36 PM Subj

Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Mark D Pace
>I look around for it and can't find it. Which directory would it be located. >This is not a Marist file system. >P. Abruzzese try this rpm -qa | grep ssh This will tell you if an ssh package has been installed. Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake

Re: Backups of Linux volume

2002-11-12 Thread Loren Charnley, Jr.
Chuck, Although I only have two LINUX guests under zVM 3.1, I have an exec that runs the backups using DDR. I have the operator shutdown each instance while they run the backup and at the end the EXEC will ask whether to IPL(boot) or not. I successfully recovered both LINUX quests when I went th

Re: Backups of Linux volume

2002-11-12 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 11/12/2002 at 12:22 CST, "Gowans, Chuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > We are not having good luck getting the Linux systems to boot when we have > tested the restore process here. We (thought we) understood the need to > have the Linux guest quiesced so we could get a clean dump

Re: SSH instead of TELNET - In regards to S/390 ----> Linux

2002-11-12 Thread Rick Troth
> I have SSH installed on Linux, but have the opposite problem > in that I need an open ssh putty-like shell to connect to it > from OS/390 so that I can do secure logon from an automation product. SSH was ported to OMVS ... I thought. Can't seem to find it on the "Tools and Toys" page. :-(

Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Abruzzese, Pat
Mark, I look around for it and can't find it. Which directory would it be located. This is not a Marist file system. vr, P. Abruzzese > -Original Message- > From: Post, Mark K [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:54 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:

Re: SSH instead of TELNET - In regards to S/390 ----> Linux

2002-11-12 Thread Post, Mark K
James, There's a port of OpenSSH to OS/390's UNIX System Services environment. That doesn't sound like what you're after, though. (Or does it?) IBM's SG24-5944 Redbook, "Open Source Software for z/OS and OS/390 UNIX" is the place to look, if it is what you want. Mark Post -Original Message

Re: SSH instead of TELNET - In regards to S/390 ----> Linux

2002-11-12 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello from Gregg C Levine Not me. But I believe that the source code is, ah, freely available for SSH, so theoretically it could be built on OS/390, via the usual sets of tools there. Also someone might have constructed a port for OS/390, already. --- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Backups of Linux volume

2002-11-12 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 18:22, Gowans, Chuck wrote:s. > The IPLs fail at assorted points in the boot process. We are thinking that > we now may have to shut down the guests in order to get reliable backups. > That sounds a lot more drastic a failure than I would expect if the dump is being done cle

SSH instead of TELNET - In regards to S/390 ----> Linux

2002-11-12 Thread James Melin
I have SSH installed on Linux, but have the opposite problem in that I need an open ssh putty-like shell to connect to it from OS/390 so that I can do secure logon from an automation product. Has anyone done this?

Backups of Linux volume

2002-11-12 Thread Gowans, Chuck
One of the selling points I've been using to promote Linux here is the fact that it appears to be the first truly cost effective means of transporting Unix/Linux mid-range systems - affordably - to our hot site. You know the drill. the Linux file systems reside on 390 DASD, the same DASD we su

Re: CPU Arch Security [was: Re: Probably the first published shell code]

2002-11-12 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello from Gregg C Levine Sorry typo in my comment there. The word should be "mind". Not the one I chose instead. My mind is locked on a currently running process. A slowly running one in fact. --- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: CPU Arch Security [was: Re: Probably the first published shell code]

2002-11-12 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello from Gregg C Levine Actually that was my reaction. The demonstration packet that they sent me, was the thing that did it. The terms, "kludge", and "clumsy", and a few others that were not polite, crossed my mined, at the time. And you are right about what Intel thought it was. They made up a

Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Post, Mark K
Pat, It should have come on your distribution, unless you're using one of the Marist file systems (which I don't currently recommend). Mark Post -Original Message- From: Abruzzese, Pat [mailto:Pabruzzese@;Thomcomp.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subje

Re: CPU Arch Security [was: Re: Probably the first published shell code]

2002-11-12 Thread Scott Courtney
On Monday 11 November 2002 05:34 pm, Gregg C Levine wrote: > However, I did look at the > product, for Windows. And I wasn't thrilled by it. iRMX for Windows? UGH!!! My mind quails at the mere thought. (For those unfamiliar, iRMX was/is a realtime operating system created by Intel and primarily u

Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Mark D Pace
AFAIK all vanilla installs of Linux for s390 have ssh installed and ready for use. Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 850.219.5184 Fax: 850.219.5050 http://www.mainline.com

Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread David Andrews
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 11:28, Abruzzese, Pat wrote: > Where can I get SSH for Linux. http://www.openssh.com/ worked for me on the original SLES for S/390. -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Michael Martin
www.openssh.com On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 10:28, Abruzzese, Pat wrote: > My Unix group will be installing an application under the VM Linux. They > want to access Linux using SSH instead of TELNET. Where can I get SSH for > Linux. > > vr, > > P. Abruzzese -- --

Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Abruzzese, Pat
My Unix group will be installing an application under the VM Linux. They want to access Linux using SSH instead of TELNET. Where can I get SSH for Linux. vr, P. Abruzzese

Re: SUSE s390 - Zebra installation problems

2002-11-12 Thread Post, Mark K
Michael, Since zebra comes on the SuSE distribution, I'm wondering why you're trying to build it from source? It sounds like the version of zebra you're compiling has an out-of-date config.guess and/or config.sub file in it. That would be why it doesn't understand "s390x-unknown-linux-gnu" as a

Re: Anyone running a 2.5 kernel?

2002-11-12 Thread Don Mulvey
Hi Mark, No development system here. I am running Linux in a VM to work on volume mgt code. I need to verify evms user interface tools with device mapper on various platforms and was looking for any gotchas before proceeding on 390. -Don -Original Message- Date:Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:

Re: CPU Arch Security [was: Re: Probably the first published shell code]

2002-11-12 Thread Lloyd Fuller
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:38:13 -0600, Linas Vepstas wrote: >On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 02:00:14AM +0100, Ulrich Weigand was heard to remark: >> Linas Vepstas wrote: >> >Ugh. Well, that could stop the show. But since the instruction causing >this would be a problem state instruction, maybe there are fe

Re: SUSE s390 - Zebra installation problems

2002-11-12 Thread Michael.Megson
Hi, I have been trying to install Zebra on a z/VM-Linux 390 virtual machine and have a problem with the make process. Everything appears to go well until . rt_socket.c: In function `kernel_rtm_ipv4': rt_socket.c:100: `RTM_ADD' undeclared (first use in this function) rt_socket.c:100: (Each und