encryption with public/private key
management.
I was thinking of something slippery like an ampersand, which might be
bad if fed unchecked to a shell commandline.
I don't think CP's idea of safe characters is quite he same as Unix's.
/Tom Kern
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Adam Thornton wrote:
On Sep 6, 2006, at 11:38 PM, Alan Altmark wrote:
But that's always the issue. If you don't have a Linux support
contract,
it really doesn't matter what anyone else says. :-)
Conversely, if you *do* have a Linux support contract, it doesn't
matter what anyone other
David Boyes wrote:
I noticed that, if the OSA card is OSA Gigabit Express (OSA-GBX),
the
last
row of the following table. Does that mean, the linux module to be
used
should be QETH, not LCS.
Yes.
( Mark Post had in the first place advised me to leave Marist).
Listen to him.
Post, Mark K wrote:
cel didn't work. I had to put in _something_.
If the installation key will be used to determine which packages to
install as Brad stated, and it's _likely_ to be along the lines of the
current activation codes, this seems to imply some sort of external
setup (perhaps in
Dave Jones wrote:
As Dr. Boyes suggests, using the open source IUCV driver is a very good
way of solving this type of problem. You can find it here:
http://www.sinenomine.net/vm/fsiucv
Another approach that might be applicable here is to have a simple
client, running on the Linux guest, and
Crispin Hugo wrote:
They is/are Novell. IBM have told me that the official Novell view is that
sle8 will not run on z9 BC even under z/VM 5. I have not seen this for
myself yet.
Until answer is satisfactory
Ask 'em, Why?
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Rich Smrcina wrote:
The point of the discussion is that if they all wake up at the same
interval (in the case of the MARK message, every 20 minutes), it can
cause alot of storage references.
I think I understood the point, but unless the entire guest was swapped
out, I wouldn't expect it to
Marcy Cortes wrote:
It's consistently 6 and 7% of an IFL on 1 http server. On it's twin on
the other LPAR, it's consistently about 1.5%. So, is there that much
leftover because of the httpd processes? We were wondering about the
differences - and also why the velocity numbers don't add up -
Rob van der Heij wrote:
On 8/29/06, John Summerfied [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I imagine whatever's running under httpd (CGI, Java, PHP etc) could
contribute to it.
Wouldn't those run inside the httpd child thread itself, rather than
spawn another thread?
The httpd parent normally does
Fargusson.Alan wrote:
Each CGI runs in its own process. Java typically runs in an application server
like Tomcat or WAS, but it can be run as a CGI. I think PHP actually runs the
same way as a CGI.
yeah, but if they spawn a process then end, httpd adopts the child. If
it doesn't clean it
Dominic Coulombe wrote:
There is a directory in / called tmp on which you mount the /tmp
filesystem.
If you unmount /tmp, there will still be a /tmp, but probably containing no
files.
So the find command will output /tmp even with the -xdev option, but not
its
contents.
I think that every
Dominic Coulombe wrote:
On 8/11/06, Tom Duerbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now that Macs are Intel based (duel 3 GH processors)...
I wonder if Partition Magic will now support the Mac file system?
Partition Magic, along with Boot Magic, is what I use to support
multiple OSs on my PCs.
The
Adam Thornton wrote:
On Aug 11, 2006, at 8:35 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 11:28:53AM -0400, Dominic Coulombe wrote:
Linux does support reading files from a HFS or HFS+ filesystem,
but writing
is dangerous or unsupported - don't remember.
That's definitly not true.
David Boyes wrote:
If the virtual NIC definition in the CP directory includes the correct
VLAN specification and is defined as an access port on the VSWITCH, the
installation system shouldn't know (or care) that VLANs are present.
Your old method should work fine. A refinement that might be
Macioce, Larry wrote:
We are in the planning process of changing our public addrs to bring
them in house. But I have a question. I know I can go into YAST and make
the change to the network card for the instance ip addr and the router
number. But the minute I save the changes I'm going to lose
Dominic Coulombe wrote:
Yes, but who knows where Apple will push their bootcamp software...
Now I've checked, bootcamp's a lot less than I thought; it seems little
more than nothing:-(
This doesn't seem very lively either, so not much for those of us who
prefer Linux:
Adam Thornton wrote:
On Aug 3, 2006, at 7:25 PM, John Summerfied wrote:
Alan Altmark wrote:
I'd be happy if it just responded Who's there?. :-)
Little old lady
Little old lady who?
I didn't know you can yodel:-|
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Richard Troth wrote:
John ...
Some recent releases of 'nmap' lack that option.
(I say recent describing systems which may still be on the 2.4 kernel,
so no telling how far back the utilities may be.) But thanks for the tip!
-- R,
I guess that's one program you could update to a newer
Alan Altmark wrote:
On Thursday, 08/03/2006 at 09:56 AST, David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
As I understand it, SMTP is a store-and-forward proposition, Since
some
MUAs (and in particular the mail command) cannot handle failure, then
the MTA _must_ accept the initial submission.
No,
Marcy Cortes wrote:
Thanks all. Richards iptables suggestion did the trick (with the IP
changed to the IP of the server).
It was TCP. It was done in order to lock out the WAS admin console and
instead force that to go through an https server on the same instance
that would authenticate the
Alan Altmark wrote:
I'd be happy if it just responded Who's there?. :-)
Little old lady
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Thomas Kern wrote:
This sounds like a good idea for another linux appliance. A centralized
logging and log-analysis server could be a nice drop-in appliance for a
fledgling penguin network. One spot to accumulate logs, rotate logs,
analyze logs and archive logs. Sounds much better than having to
Dominic Coulombe wrote:
I personally like to send my logs to the standard local log file and
I also forward them to a remote syslog machine.
I use this as a backup in case of the syslog machine being down. Of
course I have to destroy local logs after some time, but I like the
safety net it
David Boyes wrote:
I think Lea means:
For cluster takeover to work seamlessly, your application has to keep
session data in some common location between the servers.
There's the point that has me: how do you backup that location? Is it
something that, if it fails, you quickly find a new one
David Boyes wrote:
We are running RHEL4 on these particular guests, and the default
MTA
is sendmail. I would prefer to run something with a smaller memory
footprint if I can; it seems rather pointless to take up much room for
something which will only process a couple of messages
McKown, John wrote:
Why not use your Exchange server as the MTA? Configure the Linux email
client to connect to port 25 on the Exchange server's IP address (or
hostname, if you are set up to do that).
We do emails from batch jobs on z/OS. We have a free software called
XMITIP which knows the
Stahr, Lea wrote:
With clustering, you shut down one image and do an OFFLINE backup while
the application runs on the second image. Then bring up the primary
image and shutdown the secondary system for backup.
which sounds every bit as tricky to me as getting good backups from a
live Linux
Alan Altmark wrote:
On Wednesday, 07/26/2006 at 01:27 EST, J Leslie Turriff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Okay, now, wait; are you saying that the storage device _does_ have a
mechanism for communicating with the Linux filesystem to determine what
filesystem pages are still cached in main storage
Carsten Otte wrote:
Fargusson.Alan wrote:
I agree. I think you should make your backups with the Linux system down. You
should test this to make sure that there is not some other operational error
causing problems.
I think we got close to the bottom of the stack now: If one can take
down
J Leslie Turriff wrote:
Sounds to me, then, like the use of the
snapshot/mirror/peer-to-peer copy features of storage devices e.g.
Shark, SATABeast, etc. are currently dangerous to use with Linux
filesystems. They would need to be able to coordinate their activities
with the filesystem
Stahr, Lea wrote:
A piece of cake! Use VMUTIL on VM to do the shutdowns and startups and
have the backups scheduled appropriately. Or get the CONTROL-M agent and
have that do it all from ZOS.
snip
I don't understand how that addresses my concern.
Stahr, Lea wrote:
With clustering, you shut
Dominic Coulombe wrote:
For an example, you can share RO the /usr filesystem. When you apply a
patch on the main system which owns the disk in RW, your other machines ARE
NOT aware of the changes until you re-mount the filesystem on each Linux
machine.
I will put that a little more
Nix, Robert P. wrote:
Not only would you have to shut down all the guests to introduce your maintenance
(although not during the actual apply; you could allocate new disks, copy the
old ones, and apply your maintenance there, then switch everybody over),
Robert
Can you check that your email
Rick Troth wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Yu Safin wrote:
If you are not trying to save disk (we use about 1 Gb for all system
files), why not use something simpler such as unison/rsync to keep all
your files synchronized to a master. That way, if the disk takes a
hit you won't see all your
Stahr, Lea wrote:
I run SuSE SLES 8 under ZVM 5.1 in an IFL. The DASD are in a SAN that is
also accessed by ZOS. Backups are taken by ZOS using FDR full volume
copies on Saturday morning (low usage). When I restore a backup, it will
not boot. The backup and the restore have the same byte counts.
James Melin wrote:
This is more of a 'how do YOU do it ancillary question'...
Obviously to get a decent system backup from within Linux you should be in
single user mode, or even quiesced completely (if you're doing CDL volume
backups, for instance).
What are people doing to get a given image
Post, Mark K wrote:
For one thing, full-volume backups preserve partition information,
making recovery much simpler. If I had to recover a hundred Linux
My backup script does this:
sfdisk /etc/disktab -d /dev/hda
I _could_ copy it separately to a separate repository of this info, and
I could
David Boyes wrote:
Why is everyone so hung up on volume backups?
It strikes me that file-level backups are generally a lot easier to
work with, and use less archival media.
Restore time in DR situations. Volume-level backups are a LOT faster to
restore, and you don't have to configure
Carsten Otte wrote:
As Alan said, it's a question of one system knowing what's happening on
the other system. There's no way that z/OS is going to be able to know
that the Linux system is safe (without some kind of automation on BOTH
systems to be able to signal same) so dumps taken from
Rob van der Heij wrote:
On 7/24/06, Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It strikes me that file-level backups are generally a lot easier to
work with, and use less archival media.
File level backup is great for oops backup when you erased a few
files and want them back. I am not sure
Carsten Otte wrote:
But Dominic, it has nothing to do with a journaled file system. The fact
that you stopped the application and sync'd the file system (equivalent to
unmounting it) is what makes it work, not the file system implementation.
Wrong. Due to caching, as correctly described by
Dominic Coulombe wrote:
On 7/24/06, David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One more time: Unless your Linux systems *are completely down* at the
time of backup, full volume dumps from outside the Linux system are more
than likely to be useless.
Can you explain why is that ?
To avoid the
Dominic Coulombe wrote:
I'm sorry, but I don't get your point.
I don't mind losing data on the system filesystems as we are only
interested in the database stuff.
On 24-Jul-2006, at 19:19, John Summerfied wrote:
so you don't care that it doesn't actually work!
It might be that in your
Mike Lovins wrote:
Can someone help me. I have been trying to determine how to set up my
SuSE linux to access a printer that resides on our network. I have had
little luck or I don't understand what I have read. Can someone direct
me on what needs to be done or where I can go to get the
James K Barnett wrote:
Hello, First time posting on here, but enjoy going through the emails.
Try compose, or click the address you want to write to, rather than
reply.
Some folk will quietly ignore you - because of the mistake or because
they're skipping the entire thread -, but worse,
Rob van der Heij wrote:
On 7/11/06, John Summerfied [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does sudo service apache restart work?
Don't see that on my SuSE system. There's rcapache but that is just a
symlink into /etc/init.d/apache so that does not buy anything. But as
I said, even if it were setting
Rob van der Heij wrote:
On 7/11/06, Rick Troth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Consider what Kris said about the '-i' flag on 'sudo'.
It appears there's no such flag in the sudo that I have with SuSE so I
can't tell.
It's fairly new: not in RHEL 4 or Fedora Core 3. I think SUSE 10 has it,
Dominic Coulombe wrote:
The C program is a good idea but :
1) remove the gcc and other build tools after the development !
2) you will still need Tripwire to be sure nobody replaces your binary...
or use a RR dasd.
The SETUID bit is a good idea if you are sure that the binary is not
modified
Dominic Coulombe wrote:
On 7/11/06, John Summerfied [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rob van der Heij wrote:
On RHL derivatives, service is the one true way to run the init.d
scripts. I don't currently have a SUSE system to check for myself, but I
think it does have something.
You just have
McKown, John wrote:
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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Summerfield
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 3:36 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: MVSLOGIN for x86 Linux
snip
Hercules does a fine job of running MVS 3.8, and at one
Dominic Coulombe wrote:
Hi Alan,
I would use sudo for this purpose.
You can configure this user to execute only selected commands as root. The
user only need to provide his own password. Every attemps to run unallowed
commands is reported (logged).
You can allow the startup/shutdown script
Rob van der Heij wrote:
On 7/10/06, David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's why you allow them only the init script. The init template
provided with most distributions does not depend on the environment
beyond the basics. If you let them run a shell in any form, then yes,
you will lose.
Nix, Robert P. wrote:
Actually, you can go through the complete dialog for the install system, creating the network
and using the IP address of the failing system. This allows you to start up a (much more
comfortable) ssh session. You can even run yast and begin the GUI install,
up through
Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just out of curiousity, how much effort is generally involved
in porting an application such as this to z? Is it just a
matter of building it from source on z and making sure
everything works? (Not that even that is in any way a small
efford.) Or are there
Marist EDU wrote:
I see you're fixed, but to explain ...
This SLES8 guest under z/VM stopped responding and now when we log on
the guest we get the following messages.
Does anyone have any ideas on what I can do to fix this?
md: autorun ...
md: ... autorun DONE.
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for
Vic Cross wrote:
Cheers,
Vic (got to think of a cool name for *my* alter-ego, since Chuckie is
already taken)
Verity. Speaks truth, shortens to Very.
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Nix, Robert P. wrote:
I'd say that your best bet (and speediest method to get up and running) would
be to just install Linux again on the second LPAR, and do the same
customizations you did on the first one. Cloning takes some additional planning
and setup before you'd be able to successfully
James Melin wrote:
Way back in the day, I used FP 98 (again that's what was sanctioned, regardless
of how lousy a product it is) back in the day, and that invoked a real
FTP conversation irrespective of there being a web server involved. Is there
any way to get FP 2003 to just DO what I want
Nix, Robert P. wrote:
Having Linux up in a zOS partition would be a neat trick, unless you brought
zOS down first... Are you talking about a separate LPAR on your system, or did
you mean zVM?
You can share DASD between Linux instances, as long as the disk is read-only to
all Linux images
David Boyes wrote:
I am talking about *two* LPARs: one is up and running, and I want a
second
test system in a separate LPAR.
Making updates and test on the test system - copying over to the
production system. Similar to the
method we also use for z/os ...
You can share DASD between Linux
McKown, John wrote:
Please be kind. I don't have a z/Linux system around. But I know that
you cannot share a filesystem between two z/Linux instances in
read/write mode and hope to keep a usable filesystem (in the general
case). I wonder why the dasd driver cannot (or does it?) implement an
Nix, Robert P. wrote:
Look for the rootpw, targetpw or runaspw option in the Sudoers file.
These would force it to ask for root's password instead of the issuing user's password. While not the program
default, many distributions come with one of these set.
Also, your guard against the use of
Post, Mark K wrote:
The password that sudo requests is the password of the user issuing the
sudo command. So, if Oper01 issues the sudo command, it will be
prompted for the Oper01 password.
That is a configuration choice: when I installed openSUSE 10 I discoverd
sudo asking for the target
Post, Mark K wrote:
It's not an inode value. Inodes are found in file systems, they're not
device-related. The number you see is the decimal value of a two-byte
hexadecimal number. The hexadecimal number is the major and minor
numbers on the device in /dev. For example, on one of my systems,
.
Mark Post
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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
John Summerfied
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 7:46 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: numerical form of root file system?
Post, Mark K wrote:
It's not an inode value. Inodes
LJ Mace wrote:
Last week or maybe the week before someone wiped out our 200 pack. With the
help of some friends on this and other boards I have put it MOSTLY back
together. It boots and things work so now I'm putting some non critical(or what
I'd call non critical) files back where they
Jon Brock wrote:
Sorry. Forgot to put the correct subject heading the first time . . .
Jon
Anybody know where the default directory for the later versions of MySQL is?
It used to be /var/lib/mysql (I think), but I don't know about nowadays.
Probablly depends on whether you use a package
Richard Pinion wrote:
I imagine everybody's desktop is different, hardware/OS, but I've not had the
same success rate with my home or work PC as you have had. Are you running a
Mac or Intel, Linux or Windows? I think the new Mac commercials are sooo cool!
Those were two semprons (32-bit)
John Campbell wrote:
[GRAIN TYPE=SALT MODE=Stand Up Philosopher]
A long time ago in a website far, far away, I once sent a note to the
fellow talking about mainframes.
In fact, some years after I wrote the original author a note and then
forgot about it, I discovered that my reply had somehow
Mike Lovins wrote:
Can some give me the directions on the proper steps to change the system
name and the IP address of my test Linux system that is going to replace
a current system I am shutting down. I need to use the same system name
and IP address because of the TSM application that I have.
Fargusson.Alan wrote:
I suspect you are thinking of the prefix instructions used in the block move.
Or maybe you didn't notice that you can use the prefix instruction. In any
case the block move on Intel is about the same as a move character on the
mainframe.
In the 8086 days it took
Richard Pinion wrote:
Richard
You may be posting in HTML. Better if you don't - shorter emails kinder
to dialup users, less likely to be tagged as spam (some people, would
you believe it? refuse HTML email altogether). It might explain why
Mozilla's quoting is a bit off.
I've always wanted to
Richard Pinion wrote:
I'm sure this is a completely different class of processor, but I recently
purchased an AMD Athlon 3200+ XP. After chaning the memory chips, power
supply, heatsink/fan, video card, and removing all other cards I finally
decided the chip was faulty. It would attempt to
Peggy Andrews wrote:
Hi, all.
Given recent events (the new who's been reading our list),
Nobody will get a balanced view of anything reading a mailing list such
as this. Of course, it's centred on problems we have: a list devoted to
extolling the virtues of its primary topic will quickly
Rob van der Heij wrote:
On 5/18/06, Peggy Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I didn't miss the posts, but I'm not sure what to do with that
information to prove that we can run at the same performance level.
It is very hard to demonstrate the suitability of the platform with a
few synthetic
Post, Mark K wrote:
Now, for the CentOS system, the same methodology will be used, except
for the file system labels. Once the two disks have been copied, you'll
need to change the file system labels on the new disks. Otherwise, when
you try to boot either the old system or the new one,
Alan Cox wrote:
On Gwe, 2006-05-12 at 10:40 +0800, John Summerfied wrote:
Please take care to verify your DVDs are good: I've had problems burning
DVDs on Fedora Core 3 (two systems, both with LG burners), and my Acer
Aspire running SUSE 10.0.
The Fedora DVD burning stuff is fine
Bates, Bob wrote:
Hello all,
I am trying to set up an FTP server, SLES9 64-bit, to do the rest of my
installs from. The server is running, I have file systems with s390 and s390x
code, but when I attempt to do an install, it can't read the software package
list, media error?
McKown, John wrote:
I burn DVDs on my AMD64 / SuSE 9.3 system quite a bit. No problems, so
far. I use k3b.
What kernel is that?
fwiw what brand/model of burner?
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McKown, John wrote:
far. I use k3b.
What kernel is that?
fwiw what brand/model of burner?
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uname -a reports 2.6.11-21.11-default
NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
I must revise. I have burned about 10 DVDs and quite a few CDs on this
system with no problems.
McKown, John wrote:
uname -a reports 2.6.11-21.11-default
NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
I must revise. I have burned about 10 DVDs and quite a few CDs on this
system with no problems.
Interesting. I just downloaded growisofs and read index.html. It seems
this should work:
dd
James Melin wrote:
Alan, Thanks for the Clarification.
Based on that I shouldn't be seeing the performance I am seeing.
I'm just trying to figure out what in hell can cause a performance difference
of 227:1 at DR vs back home. Yes. That's correct 227:1 sometimes
slightly better, sometimes
Adam Thornton wrote:
On May 8, 2006, at 2:19 PM, James Melin wrote:
What I've never been able to figure out is how to tell z/VM that
the backup process on z/OS is done and to either change runlevels
or IPL the guest or
what have you.
Again daily system shutdowns are not suitable for a 24/7
Post, Mark K wrote:
Thanks to the vast generosity of John McKown, I now have a DVD burner on
one of my Intel Slackware systems. As I said in a previous post, I am
now willing to provide DVDs of any freely available Linux/390
distribution that you can find .iso files for. (If you want one for
on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
John Summerfied
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 5:23 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: VIM question.
Fargusson.Alan wrote:
I use VIM on several systems, including z/OS Unix, Mac OS X, and Linux. I
noticed on the Linux systems the extend
Fargusson.Alan wrote:
The quoted documentation corresponds to my understanding to the -o option. As
I stated in my question: vim -o file1 file2 should open two windows, one with
file1 and the other with file2. It doesn't do that on the Intel Linux system I
have here. In fact a vi -o3 gives
Joseph Temple wrote:
IBM probably could build them, whether we could sell them at price Google
could afford is another issue...
Does anyone know how many of what class of servers are being used? Also,
my guess is that some sort of hybrid might be the answer. That is some of
the clusters may
James Melin wrote:
I just want to reconcile what the People here are saying with what the folk on
the list say regarding what constitutes a 3rd level guest
I'm being told by our head sysprog AND someone else with considerably more VM
experience (he's the new guy) that in Basic mode, the
Henry E Schaffer wrote:
On my Sun/Solaris I'm running VIM version 6.3 and it handles (as I
wrote earlier) both vim -o test1 test2 and vim -o3 properly.
My Intel/Linux runs version 6.3.71 (from the Fedora distribution) and
does exactly the same thing. (vim -h only says 6.3)
The .71
Steve Gentry wrote:
You don't mention what type of box your running on. I run VM 4.3 and run
Linux as a guest under that. I (we) are running on a
z800 mod 1 (approx. 190 mips). I can drive the cpu to 60% or better when
running KDE and other GUI stuff.
I'd love to see 6% util. running Linux in
http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2006/05/03/buggy_spreadsheet/print.html
I'd guess efforts at debugging spreadsheets are less rigourous than,
say, for your corporate core business systems.
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Fargusson.Alan wrote:
I use VIM on several systems, including z/OS Unix, Mac OS X, and Linux. I
noticed on the Linux systems the extend features don't work. I noticed this on
Intel and Z. The features I miss are the -o option (as in vim -o file1 file2),
selecting blocks of text with V, and
Tom Duerbusch wrote:
First, KDE is a hog. It really shouldn't be used for production.
Pooh!!
KDE is fine. The mainframe isn't the platform for running desktop
applications, and _that_ is the problem.
Get a cheap Sempron or Celery, a Gb of RAM and any Linux desktop will
run well.
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Rick Troth wrote:
Now I have to really grumble at IBM... Am I missing something or isn't
that missing what should be a key part of the product? Is it really
reasonable that every single shop has to write their own init.d
script Every shop expected to reinvent that wheel? Surely they
Levy, Alan wrote:
Why the image?
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Levy, Alan wrote:
What's the alternative ?
Most people don't send graphics in their email. Plain text is good.
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Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission wrote:
The only picture related to this list is a fox in an
'M'(http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?linux-vm). So that suggests
she is an animal lover. And with the ability to be in several countries
around the world at one time, suggests she is rather
Alan Altmark wrote:
ignorance. Not to worry - they'll see the public OOM when they return
from wherever and hopefully remember the next time.
Not with the default settings for this list, tho they might see the
discussion:-)
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John
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Collinson.Shannon wrote:
If you can tell me how to avoid it, I'd love to do so. My company
recently opened up our out of office messages to go to external email
recipients (like this list) and I don't believe I can stop it from
within Microsoft OutLook. As I'm required, by management, to set
Rod wrote:
Try pointing people to:
http://www.winehq.com/site/myths#only_x86
for the story on the x86 only bit.
http://darwine.opendarwin.org/faq.php
is useful as it pointedly points out that they want to
add an x86 emulator to the project to get this
to run on a PPC box
Some time ago
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