Re: Virtual network topology questions...

2002-11-11 Thread Alan Cox
On Mon, 2002-11-11 at 18:06, Marcy Cortes wrote: > Adam wrote: > >Here's how: go get the virgin 2.4.19 kernel sources > >from kernel.org. Go get the s390-may2002, s390-1-may2002, and > >timer-1-may2002 patches from IBM Developerworks, and apply them in > >that order. Also get the qeth driver from

Re: Virtual network topology questions...

2002-11-11 Thread John Summerfield
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, McKown, John wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Marcy Cortes [mailto:marcy@;WellsFargo.COM] > > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:06 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Virtual network topology questions... > > >

Re: Virtual network topology questions...

2002-11-11 Thread Post, Mark K
. Sharing such things as userids and passwords to restricted sites would be another matter entirely. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Marcy Cortes [mailto:marcy@;WellsFargo.COM] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 1:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Virtual network topology questions

Re: Virtual network topology questions...

2002-11-11 Thread Adam Thornton
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 10:06:01AM -0800, Marcy Cortes wrote: > Suppose another customer had a SuSE support contract. Could > that customer email Robert the kernel patch rpm file without > violating their support contract? That's all he would need to run > guest LAN on his existing HW/SW. I thin

Re: Virtual network topology questions...

2002-11-11 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: Marcy Cortes [mailto:marcy@;WellsFargo.COM] > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:06 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Virtual network topology questions... > > Suppose another customer had a SuSE support contract. Could > that c

Re: Virtual network topology questions...

2002-11-11 Thread Marcy Cortes
Adam wrote: >Here's how: go get the virgin 2.4.19 kernel sources >from kernel.org. Go get the s390-may2002, s390-1-may2002, and >timer-1-may2002 patches from IBM Developerworks, and apply them in >that order. Also get the qeth driver from there. Build a kernel. >Build your modules. Copy the qet

Re: Virtual network topology questions...

2002-11-08 Thread Adam Thornton
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 11:09:02AM -0600, Nix, Robert P. wrote: > This has gone completely off track, and in no way resembles or answers > my original questions. We're running zVM 4.2, not 4.2. We're on a 9672, > not a z-series, we have a single OSA interface, shared with a zOS image, > and no opt

Re: Virtual network topology questions...

2002-11-08 Thread Post, Mark K
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Virtual network topology questions... In a message dated 11/8/2002 10:37:37 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Further, there is another option from SuSE. For free, they will send you > CDs with their GA code on them. You just don't get any sup

Re: Virtual network topology questions...

2002-11-08 Thread David Boyes
> This has gone completely off track, and in no way resembles > or answers my original questions. Huh? > We're running zVM 4.2, not 4.2. OK, you have guest LAN support, just no broadcast support. > We're on a 9672, not a > z-series, Guest LANs work fine on 9672s. > we have a single OSA interf

Re: Virtual network topology questions...

2002-11-08 Thread Dave Myers
In a message dated 11/8/2002 10:37:37 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Further, there is another option from SuSE. For free, they will send you > CDs with their GA code on them. You just don't get any support during the > trial. There is? I thought sles7 was all i can get

Re: Virtual network topology questions...

2002-11-08 Thread Post, Mark K
: Nix, Robert P. [mailto:Nix.Robert@;mayo.edu] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 12:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Virtual network topology questions... This has gone completely off track, and in no way resembles or answers my original questions. We're running zVM 4.2, not 4.2. We're on a

Re: Virtual network topology questions...

2002-11-08 Thread Dave Myers
In a message dated 11/8/2002 10:14:42 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The answers have been fairly much the same as "Put out your resume, and find > a job at a company with a different system..." > h...then you either haven't been reading them carefully...or you don't u

Re: Virtual network topology questions...

2002-11-08 Thread Nix, Robert P.
e: 507-255-3450 Rochester, MN 55905 "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." > -Original Message- > From: Adam Thornton [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:38 AM > To: [EMAI

Re: Virtual network topology questions...

2002-11-08 Thread Adam Thornton
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 10:57:41AM -0500, Dave Myers wrote: > So according to the statements below...I CAN use SUSE SLES7 > to play the guest lan game, using QDIO instead of virtual hipersockets? > Am I correct in this assumption? > Any testimony from someone who has setup guest lans with SUSE SLES

Re: Virtual network topology questions...

2002-11-08 Thread Carlos Ordonez
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Re: Virtual network topology questions...

2002-11-08 Thread Dave Myers
So according to the statements below...I CAN use SUSE SLES7 to play the guest lan game, using QDIO instead of virtual hipersockets? Am I correct in this assumption? Any testimony from someone who has setup guest lans with SUSE SLES7? Tia Dave Myers Adam said... Now, you're using SuSE, so that may

Re: Virtual network topology questions...

2002-11-08 Thread Carlos Ordonez
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Re: Virtual network topology questions...

2002-11-08 Thread Malcolm Beattie
Nix, Robert P. writes: > 9672, so no hiper-sockets. In trial mode, so no money to buy a distribution or >support, but with the potential to do so if / when it goes into production. >Potentially running DB2 and WebSphere, so SuSE instead of RedHat, as IBM supports >SuSE more so than RedHat, in ou

Re: Virtual network topology questions...

2002-11-08 Thread David Boyes
> 9672, so no hiper-sockets. In trial mode, so no money to buy > a distribution or support, but with the potential to do so if > / when it goes into production. Potentially running DB2 and > WebSphere, so SuSE instead of RedHat, as IBM supports SuSE > more so than RedHat, in our experience. Guest

Re: Virtual network topology questions...

2002-11-08 Thread Rich Smrcina
Thornton [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:59 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Virtual network topology questions... > > > > On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 08:44:20AM -0600, Nix, Robert P. wrote: > > > Given an IFL running zV

Re: Virtual network topology questions...

2002-11-08 Thread Rich Smrcina
If at all possible, use the Guest LAN. It gets past all of this point to point stuff and for all the reasons that Adam mentioned. On Friday 08 November 2002 08:44 am, you wrote: > Given an IFL running zVM and several Linux/390 images, is it better to fan > out to all the Linux images from zVM's T

Re: Virtual network topology questions...

2002-11-08 Thread David Boyes
> Given an IFL running zVM and several Linux/390 images, is it > better to fan out to all the Linux images from zVM's TCPIP, > or should TCPIP talk to a selection of images, with these > images each handling several end machines, more like a tree > structure? If you have a version of z/VM that sup

Re: Virtual network topology questions...

2002-11-08 Thread Nix, Robert P.
ce are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." > -Original Message- > From: Adam Thornton [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:59 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Virtual network topology questions... >

Re: Virtual network topology questions...

2002-11-08 Thread Adam Thornton
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 08:44:20AM -0600, Nix, Robert P. wrote: > Given an IFL running zVM and several Linux/390 images, is it better to > fan out to all the Linux images from zVM's TCPIP, or should TCPIP talk to a > selection of images, with these images each handling several end > machines, more

Virtual network topology questions...

2002-11-08 Thread Nix, Robert P.
Given an IFL running zVM and several Linux/390 images, is it better to fan out to all the Linux images from zVM's TCPIP, or should TCPIP talk to a selection of images, with these images each handling several end machines, more like a tree structure? What would be the advantages and disadvantages