Re: VMware Internals Expert

2005-10-10 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 08:03:11AM +0200, Eli Marmor wrote: Hello, I need a VMware internals expert urgently; The problem is too complex to detail it here, and it may be off-topic for most subscribers, so I'll be grateful if anybody who is expert in VMware or knows another expert, will

Re: VMware Internals Expert

2005-10-10 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Eli Marmor wrote: Hello, I need a VMware internals expert urgently; The problem is too complex to detail it here, and it may be off-topic for most subscribers, so I'll be grateful if anybody who is expert in VMware or knows another expert, will contact me personally as soon as possible (I

Re: Wireless card

2005-10-10 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Sun, Oct 09, 2005 at 10:04:31PM +0200, Eran Tromer wrote: Hi, Can anyone point me to a nice cheap 802.11g wireless adapter, either PCI or USB, that has good [1] Linux drivers and is available in Israel? I went over the first three dozen results for wireless adapters on Zap, and as far

Re: VMware Internals Expert

2005-10-10 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Yedidyah Bar-David, from the post of Mon, 10 Oct: I need a VMware internals expert urgently; The problem is too complex to detail it here, and it may be off-topic I know no VMware expert, but you might be interested in qemu. Did, sounds like the guy needs urgent help with a

ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Erez D
hi i just passed in a store and saw a mac with OS X it looks pretty, and i remembered i saw that a lot of linux programs can be ported to work on OS X. as i do not like windows, but i need it for various resons (ms office compatibility, sites that work only on explorer etc...) i was wondering:

RE: Why most people prefer Windows

2005-10-10 Thread Israel Shikler
It is kind of funny to follow this discussion ,because in one hand I am sure that linux community is a very skillful. On the other it is really really very difficult to fight its naive attitude concerning business applications. People prefer Window because of 2 main reasons: 1) Long ago MS has

Re: VMware Internals Expert

2005-10-10 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 09:34:42AM +0200, Ira Abramov wrote: Quoting Yedidyah Bar-David, from the post of Mon, 10 Oct: I need a VMware internals expert urgently; The problem is too complex to detail it here, and it may be off-topic I know no VMware expert, but you might be

Re: Wireless card

2005-10-10 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 09:08:18AM +0200, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: On Sun, Oct 09, 2005 at 10:04:31PM +0200, Eran Tromer wrote: Hi, Can anyone point me to a nice cheap 802.11g wireless adapter, either PCI or USB, that has good [1] Linux drivers and is available in Israel? Cisco

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi! I'm replying best on my best knowledge. Feel free to correct me. On Monday 10 October 2005 09:53, Erez D wrote: hi i just passed in a store and saw a mac with OS X it looks pretty, and i remembered i saw that a lot of linux programs can be ported to work on OS X. as i do not like

Re: VMware Internals Expert

2005-10-10 Thread Eli Marmor
Shachar Shemesh wrote: Eli Marmor wrote: .. I'm not sure I understand what you are looking for here. If you are after someone adept at setting up and configuring vmware, or even interfacing to it in strange ways, then I, for example, may be able to help you. If you are really looking

RE: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Ohad.Levy
Hi Erez, As far as I know, you can run (recompile) most open source applications if they are not already included in the Mac os-x (as Darwin is based on bsd). But as far as I know today, there is a hardware limitation (is it?) that can allow this OS to run only on Apple HW. I didnt

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Michael Green
On 10/10/05, Erez D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as i do not like windows, but i need it for various resons (ms office compatibility, sites that work only on explorer etc...) i was wondering: is OS X the solution e.g. : can it function as both linux (including all linux apps, shells,

Re: Wireless card

2005-10-10 Thread Matan Ziv-Av
On Sun, 9 Oct 2005, Eran Tromer wrote: Hi, Can anyone point me to a nice cheap 802.11g wireless adapter, either PCI or USB, that has good [1] Linux drivers and is available in Israel? I went over the first three dozen results for wireless adapters on Zap, and as far as I can tell, not one

Xen vs. VMware (was: Re: VMware Internals Expert)

2005-10-10 Thread Amos Shapira
On 10/10/05, Muli Ben-Yehuda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What Ira said. And while you're at it, Xen is much more of a VMWare replacement than qemu. [snipped] It's closed source; contact VMWare. Now if you were asking about, oh for example, Xen... that would be a completely different answer.

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Michael Green
On 10/10/05, Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I'm replying best on my best knowledge. Feel free to correct me. Mac OS X is Darwin with the Mac GUI, where Darwin forked from FreeBSD (and is now maintained separetely). This is not precise. It wasn't forked from FreeBSD. Darwin is Mach

RE: Wireless card

2005-10-10 Thread Ohad.Levy
Hi, I would not recommend this card so much - I have it running on Linux for half a year now. Beside the fact that you need to compile some binaries for it, it has some problems that I've encountered. Running on both FC(X) and CentOs I've encountered encryption problems - where I had to restart

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Alex Shnitman
btw: can OS-X run on non mac hardware ? Intel has recently informed that it is going to abandon the Power-based architecture for Intel Pentium-based ones. the new version of Mac OS X will run on dedicated Intel hardware. It may be available for other computers, but may not support

Re: Xen vs. VMware (was: Re: VMware Internals Expert)

2005-10-10 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 06:55:33PM +1000, Amos Shapira wrote: On 10/10/05, Muli Ben-Yehuda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What Ira said. And while you're at it, Xen is much more of a VMWare replacement than qemu. [snipped] It's closed source; contact VMWare. Now if you were asking about, oh

Re: VMware Internals Expert

2005-10-10 Thread Yaacov Fenster - System Engineering Troubleshooting and other stuff
Eli - Have you tried going through the manual to see if there is any mention of the dialog box there ? Yaacov Eli Marmor wrote: Snip During any boot of a guest, a warning dialog box pops up, reminding you to install vmware-tools (unless you disable this pop-up). Always when it pops up,

Re: Xen vs. VMware (was: Re: VMware Internals Expert)

2005-10-10 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Well, at the moment, you still cannot install Windows as guest under Xen (unless you have the source code for windows - Hi Mainsoft people ;)) As for prices for the processors with the VM stuff built in - I expect them to be priced a bit higher, but not that much. It won't appear so fast in the

Re: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
X86 emulation under PPC is SLOW, DOG slow! heck, when I played it on a fast G4, I came to a conclusion that it would be simply faster and cheaper to buy a non brand PC and use it rather then using Virtual PC. As for OS X/86 (OS for X86) - they use an Infenion chip to protect being running OS X/86

Re: VMware Internals Expert

2005-10-10 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Dear Eli, It might be wise to post the problem somewhere (for example -a page in your web server) , since there are almost none internal experts in VMWare (well, there is one, but not in Israel but in poland, he's the guy who releases VMWare patches for the newer kernels).. Which product do u

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Monday 10 October 2005 11:26, Alex Shnitman wrote: btw: can OS-X run on non mac hardware ? Intel has recently informed that it is going to abandon the Power-based architecture for Intel Pentium-based ones. the new version of Mac OS X will run on dedicated Intel hardware. It may

Re: Xen vs. VMware (was: Re: VMware Internals Expert)

2005-10-10 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 11:35:00AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Well, at the moment, you still cannot install Windows as guest under Xen (unless you have the source code for windows - Hi Mainsoft people ;)) Having the source code is not nearly enough - you need to also port it to run under Xen.

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Monday 10 October 2005 11:02, Michael Green wrote: On 10/10/05, Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I'm replying best on my best knowledge. Feel free to correct me. Mac OS X is Darwin with the Mac GUI, where Darwin forked from FreeBSD (and is now maintained separetely). This

Re: VMware Internals Expert

2005-10-10 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: It's closed source; contact VMWare. Now if you were asking about, oh for example, Xen... that would be a completely different answer. Eli, myself, and quite a few other people here use VMWare for developing a complete system, hardware support included. For such uses,

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 09:53:27AM +0200, Erez D wrote: i just passed in a store and saw a mac with OS X it looks pretty, and i remembered i saw that a lot of linux programs can be ported to work on OS X. That's because OSX consists of 2 parts. Darwin and OPEN SOURCE version of BSD and AQUA a

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi Shlomi, You're right about the fact that they are not going to allow MacOS to run on non-Apple hardware. However, they neither confirmed nor denied trying to use DRM hardware. They may or may not do that. In any case, Mac OS X for Pentiums will only support the particular hardware present

Re: VMware Internals Expert

2005-10-10 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 10:31:02AM +0200, Eli Marmor wrote: Rather than a normal bootable (virtual) hard disk, that guest is based on (the live-CD distro) Morphix, and the virtual hard disk (scsi0:0) is mounted automatically during (guest) system startup. What I would do would be to create a

Re: VMware Internals Expert

2005-10-10 Thread Eli Marmor
First I want to thank everybody who offered me help; your help is not needed anymore (unfortunately, not because the problem was resolved, but because there is nothing to recover). Summary of what happened: = off-topic for this list, please read only if it interests you

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 10:37:44AM +0200, Michael Green wrote: IE for OSX is not being developed anymore. AFAIK current (last) version is 5.2. MS Office doesn't include all of the components of MS Office for Win (no Access, no Outlook). Hebrew support in MS Office doesn't exist. Not a

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi, Apple have adamantly stated that they're not going to allow MacOS to run on non-Apple computers, and they're apparently going to use some kind of DRM hardware to try to enforce it. Given the history of DRM in the computer industry, though, I don't see how it will hold out for more than

Re: VMware Internals Expert

2005-10-10 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 12:02:20PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: It's closed source; contact VMWare. Now if you were asking about, oh for example, Xen... that would be a completely different answer. Eli, myself, and quite a few other people here use VMWare for

Re: VMware Internals Expert

2005-10-10 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 12:02:20PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Qemu does perform the hardware emulation, but is extremely slow. I don't know how well the closed source accelerator is faring, but if I'm going to buy something, I'll buy something that's ready. I haven't done it on a PPC, but

Re: Xen vs. VMware (was: Re: VMware Internals Expert)

2005-10-10 Thread Rami Rosen
Hi, Developing processors with Virtualization support is an attractive idea; in this way there will no need to patch Linux for using Xen and this will enable using the other OS. It will sure give the Xen project , which is evolving rapidly, a siginificant boost.

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Michael Green
On 10/10/05, Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 10:37:44AM +0200, Michael Green wrote: Hebrew support in MS Office doesn't exist. Not a quality replacement for Windows Office imho. Not true. I have a friend that is writing a book with Office 2004 on his

Re: Xen vs. VMware (was: Re: VMware Internals Expert)

2005-10-10 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 01:04:48PM +0200, Rami Rosen wrote: Hi, Developing processors with Virtualization support is an attractive idea; in this way there will no need to patch Linux for using Xen and this will enable using the other OS. It will sure give the Xen project , which is

Re: VMware Internals Expert

2005-10-10 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: Qemu does perform the hardware emulation, but is extremely slow. I don't know how well the closed source accelerator is faring, but if I'm going to buy something, I'll buy something that's ready. That is entirely your prerogative. The other side of the coin is helping

Files in virtual machines (was: Re: VMware Internals Expert)

2005-10-10 Thread Omer Zak
On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 12:41 +0200, Eli Marmor wrote: 1. When going to a snapshot, ALWAYS take a new snapshot before (actually, I think that VMware had to do it automatically, by default, and just let you skip it by a dialog box before starting to take the new snapshot). 2. Disable

Re: VMware Internals Expert

2005-10-10 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 12:58:28PM +0200, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: As an estimate a 2gHz G5 chip will give you about the performance of a 200-300 mHz pentium II system. Remember that VM ware does NOT emulate the processor, it just acts as a compatibility layer for I/O. This is misleading.

Re: VMware Internals Expert

2005-10-10 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 01:32:21PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: But the accelerator is not open source. I'm talking about Xen :-) Cheers, Muli -- Muli Ben-Yehuda http://www.mulix.org | http://mulix.livejournal.com/ = To

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Not true. I have a friend that is writing a book with Office 2004 on his Mac. He mixes Hebrew, Arabic, English and several other languages in his text. Oh? At least according to several places I read, Mac Office 2004 does not support hebrew RTL well. Here's a snippet from ThinkSecret web

Re: Xen vs. VMware (was: Re: VMware Internals Expert)

2005-10-10 Thread Oded Arbel
On Monday, 10 בOctober 2005 11:53, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 11:35:00AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Well, at the moment, you still cannot install Windows as guest under Xen (unless you have the source code for windows - Hi Mainsoft people ;)) Having the source code is

Re: Xen vs. VMware (was: Re: VMware Internals Expert)

2005-10-10 Thread Rami Rosen
Hi, Para-virtualizing the OS provides a performance improvement. If you've already done the work, why give it up? It seems to me that there will always be people who would be more satisfied to deal with unpatched kernel , especially in an highly evolving and changing project like Xen. And it

Re: VMware Internals Expert

2005-10-10 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 01:32:21PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: But the accelerator is not open source. Had it been, you'd hear a totally different line of reasoning from me. Not only that, but it's X86 only. That kind of makes it less than worthwhile, after all do you really need an X86

Re: Xen vs. VMware (was: Re: VMware Internals Expert)

2005-10-10 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 01:54:04PM +0200, Oded Arbel wrote: IIRC, Xen version 1 (or 0.something) had a Windows 2000 port done for it (by Microsoft ?) Microsoft Research, in Cambridge UK. that was (obviously) never released. I think I remember reading about it a while back, but I can't

Re: Files in virtual machines (was: Re: VMware Internals Expert)

2005-10-10 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 01:08:26PM +0200, Omer Zak wrote: In my own VMware setup, I had such a network, but I edit the files in the host OS (Linux, of course) and when I want to compile/run, I run a script, which copies the source files into the virtual machine and then starts the compile

Re: VMware Internals Expert

2005-10-10 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 02:27:02PM +0200, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: Ok, let's contrast them. Bitkeeper was about storing your most vital information in a proprietary format that wanted strange terms to get (at least if you didn't want to put out money). Including an http transaction

Re: VMware Internals Expert

2005-10-10 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 02:39:03PM +0200, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: Including an http transaction to their servers everytime you did something. ... if you were using the free version. The paid version did not log anything to bitkeeper's servers. It's been a while, but it was the paid

Re: VMware Internals Expert

2005-10-10 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 02:46:49PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Of course it only runs on X86. The whole point of the accelerator is to bypass the need to emulate the CPU by using the real one. That's why VMware is not as slow as Qemu (mainly). I still don't get the point. Qemu is a

Re: VMware Internals Expert

2005-10-10 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 01:32:21PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: But the accelerator is not open source. Had it been, you'd hear a totally different line of reasoning from me. Not only that, but it's X86 only. That kind of makes it less than worthwhile,

Re: VMware Internals Expert

2005-10-10 Thread Matan Ziv-Av
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 01:32:21PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: But the accelerator is not open source. Had it been, you'd hear a totally different line of reasoning from me. Not only that, but it's X86 only. That kind of makes it less than

Mimshal Zamin and Mozilla support

2005-10-10 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
Hi, Does anyone know whether the Mimshal Zamin (Accessible Government) initiative makes any promises to support Mozilla? If so, is there anyone to complain to about non-conformant government sites[1]? [1] Such as this: http://www.health.gov.il/units/pharmacy/trufot/abc.asp?Sr_Type=SALsafe=h

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Shoshannah Forbes
--Apple-Mail-53-324784965 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi. Writing this from OSX :-) i just passed in a store and saw a mac with OS X it looks pretty, and i remembered i saw that a lot of linux

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Shoshannah Forbes
On 10/10/2005, at 11:02, Michael Green wrote: This is not precise. It wasn't forked from FreeBSD. Darwin is Mach kernel with FreeBSD-synchronised userspace tools. Here is a very good site that explains about OSX and it's relationship with FreeBSD in detail. It is meant for Linux hackers

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Shoshannah Forbes
On 10/10/2005, at 12:27, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: Since 10.3 (10.4) is current, you can run X windows and manage them with Aqua, so that they are hard to distinguish from regular Mac programs. Umm... No. Applications that use X11 still don't have the same feel and the same level of

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Shoshannah Forbes
On 10/10/2005, at 12:42, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: Not true. I have a friend that is writing a book with Office 2004 on his Mac. He mixes Hebrew, Arabic, English and several other languages in his text. Then he probably doesn't use more than a few Hebrew words here and there. Office

Fwd: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Shoshannah Forbes
I am not sure why this got sent as HTML (I usually make sure to send to the list as plain text). So here it is again. Sorry for the spam... Begin forwarded message: From: Shoshannah Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 16:50:40 GMT+02:00 10 אוקטובר 2005 To: Erez D [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Linux-IL

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Geoffrey S. Mendelson, from the post of Mon, 10 Oct: Since 10.3 (10.4) is current, you can run X windows and manage them with Aqua, so that they are hard to distinguish from regular Mac programs. according to at least 3 friends of mine that run X apps like GAIM on X11-in-Aqua it's a

Re: ot: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Shoshannah Forbes
On 10/10/2005, at 19:01, Ira Abramov wrote: according to at least 3 friends of mine that run X apps like GAIM on X11-in-Aqua it's a painful, slow solution, which lacks support for lots of stuff (Hebrew) and tends to crash Why run GAIM on OSX? Use Adium- it is FLOSS, uses gaim libraries

seeking experianced GFS support

2005-10-10 Thread Ira Abramov
Howdie people, I'm looking for someone (freelancer?) who had experiance GFS flavors to come help with a short consulting job at a client of mine. I don't mind sitting around installing OpenGFS, OCFS, and others ad nauseum, but the client would of course prefer someone with experiance of those and

Re: OS X

2005-10-10 Thread Lior Kesos
Before all you wise asses reply I just read my own post and.. On 10/10/05, Lior Kesos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4. MPlayer OS/X: I blew a mac expert friend of mine that claimed you couldn't see divx's with hebrew subtitles with mplayer using fribidi to touch up the subs. I blowed him away -