Re: [off topic] Wikipedia Jimmy Wales

2005-12-10 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005, Uri Even-Chen wrote about Re: [off topic] Wikipedia Jimmy Wales: If somebody registers david-shay.co.il and you want to register shay-david.co.il or davidshay.co.il or david-shay.com or anything similar, you're allowed to do so. Nobody will stop you. The only way

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia Jimmy Wales

2005-12-10 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
If we're so much offtopic... NH dollars to pour into his defence, and another guy can literally get away NH with murder in criminal court, and yet be found guilty in a civilian court. That happens because the burden of proof in the civil court is lower than in the criminal court. And that is

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia Jimmy Wales

2005-12-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Uri Even-Chen wrote: OK, you asked for an example, you got it. Look at the history of שיחה:אריאל שרון from 28 May 2005. There were comments by an anonymous user which were deleted by the system administrators. Read the discussion and then read the comments that were deleted.

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia Jimmy Wales

2005-12-09 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Shachar Shemesh wrote: I'm not so sure about the deleted comments, but I did go over all the changes to the actual page (not the discussion) that took place during those two days. It seems that the page was in the middle of a stupid edit war. Most of the deleted comments, as far as I could tell,

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia Jimmy Wales

2005-12-09 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Stanislav Malyshev wrote: You won't believe if I told you what happens in paper encyclopedia. These evil pits of corruption are ruled by absolute dictators hiding under the name of editors, and not only they are not obliged to accept input from anybody - everybody is actually permanently banned

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia Jimmy Wales

2005-12-09 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Dec 08, 2005, Uri Even-Chen wrote about Re: [off topic] Wikipedia Jimmy Wales: Believe me, I know. Uri, I am sorry, I don't think this particular argument sounds very convincing... ;-) But the fact is that anybody

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia Jimmy Wales

2005-12-08 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Hi Nadav, Can you explain why you recommend reading those sites, much of which appear to be the writings of a nudnik at best, or a raving lunatic at worst? Wikipedia's method of operation is well-known. Nothing written on it comes with any promise of being correct. But, unlike much of the rest

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia Jimmy Wales

2005-12-08 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Uri Even-Chen wrote: You can't correct falsehoods in Wikipedia. Believe me, I tried. If the editors (system operators) don't like what you wrote, it will be changed back and you will be banned. Wikipedia is a dictatorship. There is no way to appeal on a system operator's decision to ban

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia Jimmy Wales

2005-12-08 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 10:34:09AM +0200, Uri Even-Chen wrote: Wikipedia is not free. Wikipedia is operated by people, with hierarchic ranks, who control it. Anything in the articles which doesn't fit their agenda will be removed or modified, and any person whom they don't like (for any

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia Jimmy Wales

2005-12-08 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005, Uri Even-Chen wrote about Re: [off topic] Wikipedia Jimmy Wales: Wikipedia is not free. Wikipedia is operated by people, with hierarchic ranks, who control it. Anything in the articles which doesn't fit their agenda will be removed or modified, and any person whom

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia Jimmy Wales

2005-12-08 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Shachar Shemesh wrote: Care to give specific examples, so we can form an independent opinion? The articles you tried to fix, as well as the username you were using, would be greatly appreciated. I prefer not to give specific examples. I refer to Wikipedia in general and not to specific

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia Jimmy Wales

2005-12-08 Thread Uri Even-Chen
By the way... A friend of mine has a name which is slightly similar to a Wikipedia operator. He tried to register to Wikipedia but was immediately banned just because of his name. If you think that's not an evil dictatorship then what is? Uri.

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia Jimmy Wales

2005-12-08 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Uri Even-Chen wrote: Shachar Shemesh wrote: Care to give specific examples, so we can form an independent opinion? The articles you tried to fix, as well as the username you were using, would be greatly appreciated. I prefer not to give specific examples. I refer to Wikipedia in general

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia Jimmy Wales

2005-12-08 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Hi Shachar, I'm sorry, Uri, but when raising such serious allegations, i.e. that you were banned based on the fact that you tried to correct incorrect information, There is no absolute incorrect information. There are opinions. I tried to change something that was wrong in my opinion, and

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia Jimmy Wales

2005-12-08 Thread Uri Even-Chen
OK, you asked for an example, you got it. Look at the history of שיחה:אריאל שרון from 28 May 2005. There were comments by an anonymous user which were deleted by the system administrators. Read the discussion and then read the comments that were deleted.

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia Jimmy Wales

2005-12-08 Thread Nadav Har'El
This doesn't have much to do with Linux, but since most people interested in free software are also interested in free content, I hope that people aren't too upset about this thread of discussion. On Thu, Dec 08, 2005, Uri Even-Chen wrote about Re: [off topic] Wikipedia Jimmy Wales

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia Jimmy Wales

2005-12-08 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005, Uri Even-Chen wrote about Re: [off topic] Wikipedia Jimmy Wales: OK, you asked for an example, you got it. Look at the history of שיחה:אריאל שרון from 28 May 2005. There were comments by an anonymous user which were deleted by the system administrators. Read

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia Jimmy Wales

2005-12-08 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Dec 08, 2005, Uri Even-Chen wrote about Re: [off topic] Wikipedia Jimmy Wales: Believe me, I know. Uri, I am sorry, I don't think this particular argument sounds very convincing... ;-) But the fact is that anybody (including you and me) can

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia Jimmy Wales

2005-12-08 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
UE happens in Wikipedia and it happens in the police, army or any system UE where people have power. But in Wikipedia there is nowhere to complain. UE Nobody will do anything to people who abuse their power. So UE eventually, I think Wikipedia is corrupt. You won't believe if I told you what

[off topic] Wikipedia Jimmy Wales

2005-12-07 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Hi people, I recommend reading this article (in Hebrew), and looking at the websites below: http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3180710,00.html http://www.wikipedia-watch.org/ http://www.google-watch.org/ By the way, www.google-watch.org has a Google PageRank of 6, and appears #17 when

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia Jimmy Wales

2005-12-07 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005, Uri Even-Chen wrote about [off topic] Wikipedia Jimmy Wales: I recommend reading this article (in Hebrew), and looking at the websites below: http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3180710,00.html http://www.wikipedia-watch.org/ http://www.google-watch.org/ Can you