RE: Zope programmer STILL needed.

2001-05-03 Thread Nimrod S. Carmi
m: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Omer Zak > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 10:22 PM > To: linux ILUG > Subject: Re: Zope programmer STILL needed. > > > > On Wed, 2 May 2001, Nimrod S. Carmi wrote: > > > It also seems silly to me, that

Re: Zope programmer STILL needed.

2001-05-03 Thread Nimrod S. Carmi
Hey, On Wed, 2 May 2001, Omer Zak wrote: > The point is that people who demand $50/hour and get paid this, do not > have the above kind of free time. They work until 03:00AM when they > program. When they have free time, they prefer to spend it on > life-balancing activities such as sleep, sex

RE: Zope programmer STILL needed.

2001-05-03 Thread Ely Levy
that is really not true a look of the good parts of linux were developed by companies (like redhat suse ibm sgi nvidia and so on) which actually pay thier programers:-) and those who are not getting payed usually don't officialy "work" and it depended on thier good will if they would or not write

Re: Zope programmer STILL needed.

2001-05-02 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
a) Didn't we go over all this before? b) Didn't the guy simply post an employment offer? You may answer it, or you may ignore it. All the facts are already known. If you feel there's a need and place to discuss hitech wages, atleast stop bashing the guy and continue it in some other thread (Re: H

RE: Zope programmer STILL needed.

2001-05-02 Thread fredy
: fredy Cc: Linux-IL Mailing list Subject: RE: Zope programmer STILL needed. > Pardon me for interupting this but > 50$ a hour is a LOW rate for a good programmer...they go up to 80 and > usually work for 65-70. > To reach such a level means you deserve it, no one will dare pay you l

RE: Zope programmer STILL needed.

2001-05-02 Thread Matan Ziv-Av
> Pardon me for interupting this but > 50$ a hour is a LOW rate for a good programmer...they go up to 80 and > usually work for 65-70. > To reach such a level means you deserve it, no one will dare pay you less > then you deserve, cause then they will get just what they paid for. You probabl

RE: Zope programmer STILL needed.

2001-05-02 Thread fredy
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Omer Zak Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 10:22 PM To: linux ILUG Subject: Re: Zope programmer STILL needed. On Wed, 2 May 2001, Nimrod S. Carmi wrote: > It also seems silly to me, that one sits at home doing nothing and w

Re: Zope programmer STILL needed.

2001-05-02 Thread Omer Zak
On Wed, 2 May 2001, Nimrod S. Carmi wrote: > It also seems silly to me, that one sits at home doing nothing and will > not take a 15$/hour work and at least do SOMETHING with his time. I know I > would have taken that. The point is that people who demand $50/hour and get paid this, do not have

Re: Zope programmer STILL needed.

2001-05-02 Thread Nimrod S. Carmi
Hey Reuven, and everyone. We have worked before with programmers for that rate. none of the programs/applications/scripts that are running on School Sucks has ever made any problems, and have all the features we wanted thanks to these programmers. It also seems silly to me, that one sits at hom

Re: Zope programmer STILL needed.

2001-04-21 Thread Shaul Karl
> Hey, > > Anything School Sucks builds, is and will be released to open > source. We're willing to pay 15$/hour to have our specific designs done > and at a certain speed. > But as soon as we're done we plan on uploading our take on Zope to the rest > of the world for free use. > Aren't

Re: Zope programmer STILL needed.

2001-04-21 Thread Reuven M. Lerner
Good programmers, no matter what the platform or language, cost a lot of money. This doesn't mean that the most expensive programmer is necessarily the best one, but it's probably safe to say that someone who charges $15/hour isn't as good as someone who charges $150/hour. Also: The more unusual

Re: Zope programmer STILL needed.

2001-04-21 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo
NSC>> On one hand you're holding the flag of open source and free NSC>> code. And on the other hand, you're saying that uithout 300 NSC>> shekels an hour, you're not gonna get off your ass. You sound NSC>> alot more like a Microsoft developer than a Linux developer. That's bull. If you ask somebo

Re: Zope programmer STILL needed.

2001-04-21 Thread Nimrod Simba Carmi
Hey Nadav and everyone, At 06:23 PM 4/20/01 +0300, Nadav Har'El wrote: >:) >Free software developers like to program without getting paid because they >know they, and the entire world (hopefully), will benefit from what they are >doing. When you program *for* someone (i.e., somebody else is tell

Re: Zope programmer STILL needed.

2001-04-21 Thread Nimrod Simba Carmi
Hey, Anything School Sucks builds, is and will be released to open source. We're willing to pay 15$/hour to have our specific designs done and at a certain speed. But as soon as we're done we plan on uploading our take on Zope to the rest of the world for free use. At 08:50 PM 4/20/01 +0300

Re: Zope programmer STILL needed.

2001-04-20 Thread Matan Ziv-Av
> "frier". Most high-tech companies that are profitable make a profit of > around $100,000-$200,000 per year per employee. You are offering to pay someone > $35000 (if it was a full-time job), so why should he not feel like a frier? > A rookie programmer may take such a job, but frankly an experi

Re: Zope programmer STILL needed.

2001-04-20 Thread Omer Zak
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Nimrod Simba Carmi wrote: > Hey, > > On one hand you're holding the flag of open source and free code. The fact that I am subscribed to the Linux-IL mailing list does not automatically imply that I am advocate of open source and free code. And the fact that I advocate of o

Re: Zope programmer STILL needed.

2001-04-20 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001, Nimrod Simba Carmi wrote about "Re: Zope programmer STILL needed.": > On one hand you're holding the flag of open source and free code. > And on the other hand, you're saying that uithout 300 shekels an hour, > you're not gonna get off yo

Re: Zope programmer STILL needed.

2001-04-20 Thread Nimrod Simba Carmi
Hey, On one hand you're holding the flag of open source and free code. And on the other hand, you're saying that uithout 300 shekels an hour, you're not gonna get off your ass. You sound alot more like a Microsoft developer than a Linux developer. If anyone is interested in improving Zope and

Re: Zope programmer STILL needed.

2001-04-20 Thread Omer Zak
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Nimrod Simba Carmi wrote: > Hey, > > We STILL need a zope programmer, but we will not take anyone that asks for > more then 15$/hour -- The bubble has popped no one has a 2M$investments > anymore .. In other words, Nimrod is asking for someone who will deliver amateurish, p