On Tue, Nov 02, 2010, Lior Kaplan wrote about "Re: Hebrew spell-checking in
OpenOffice":
> I've double checked this, and Debian doesn't include a tool needed for
> building the hunspell target. See
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=602189
I see
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 02, 2010, Lior Kaplan wrote about "Re: Hebrew spell-checking in
> OpenOffice":
> > I've double checked this, and Debian doesn't include a tool needed for
> > building the hunspell tar
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Lior Kaplan wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Nov 02, 2010, Lior Kaplan wrote about "Re: Hebrew spell-checking
>> in OpenOffice":
>> > I've double checked this, and Debian does
> The first issue is acronyms (rashei tevot) and abbreviations. In Hebrew,
> these use the geresh and gershaim (or single or double quotes), which is
> part of the word. OpenOffice does not understand that these quotes are part
> of the Hebrew word, and splits the word on them. As
ls and run your Impress file, which will then
be converted to "movie" in one of a number of viewable formats (depending on
which tool you choose). Hope one of these solves your problem.
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 19:47, ik wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for an idea on how to take an
ik wrote:
Hi,
I'm looking for an idea on how to take an existed OpenOffice Impress
file, and convert it into executable, so anyone (depends on the
executable format) will be able to use it without installing
Impress...
I would appreciate any ideas, suggestion or pointing for such su
Hi all,
I'm preparing a presentation for teaching make for a client. Whenever I
need to paste C code, I am using "c2html" to convert it to HTML with
syntax highlighting, and then load the HTML file in oowriter and paste
it into impress. This make my examples syntax highlighted and readable.
Unfor
I wrote a document in hebrew in open office but when I tried to open the
document I got strange characters and couldn't read it. I know there is a
trick but I don't know it. Can anyone tell me how to do that in Office?
Thanks in advance
This might interest a few people here:
http://it.themarker.com/tmit/article/2992
Could it *be it*, finally? There have been such plays in the past,
usually to attract attention and get lower prices from M$. Seems like it
is a real first step, and a considerable one(?).
If so, its a nice w
Hi,
Is anyone else experiencing the following problem:
- Take a Hebrew excel file created on Windows 98
- edit it with Openoffice on Linux (locale he_IL.UTF-8)
- Send it back to the person who sent it to you
- They try to open it and see squares instead of Hebrew letters (what probably
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 12:26:43PM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'd like to use OpenOffice 2 on an LTSP server that runs Debian Sarge.
> What packages source would you recommend? It seems to be availble at
> backports.org . Anybody using it?
A recent
I'm using Sarge also. When I wanted to upgrade to OOo 2.x I just
installed it from Unstable. It's working fine for me. A big improvement
over 1.x
Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
>Hi
>
>I'd like to use OpenOffice 2 on an LTSP server that runs Debian Sarge.
>What packages sou
so. When I wanted to upgrade to OOo 2.x I just
installed it from Unstable. It's working fine for me. A big improvement
over 1.x
Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
Hi
I'd like to use OpenOffice 2 on an LTSP server that runs Debian Sarge.
What packages source would you recommend? It seems to be avail
On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Martin Polley wrote:
> Do you mean that when you do Format | Styles | Catalog..., select a
> style and click Modify, then change the font (in the Font tab) and then
> click OK, it freezes?
>
> If so, then is does NOT happen in OO 643 on Windows XP.
>From a number of messages
On Sunday 12 October 2008, Ghiora Drori wrote:
> Hi,
> This is old by my guess would be locking again:
> http://www.inf.bme.hu/~pts/solution_to_openoffice_nfs_locking.html
Thanks - editing /usr/lib/ooo-2.1/program/soffice to disable the locking
solved the problem.
On Sunday 12 October 2008, shimi
On Sun, 2002-12-01 at 16:56, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Just filed two bugs for OpenOffice BiDi support - 9730 and 9731
>
> Please, your help is required. Please D/L the build of OpenOffice 643C
> for whatever platform, and give it a go. The bugs I opened were trivia
ay, December 01, 2002 4:56 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: OpenOffice Hebrew issues - your help, please
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just filed two bugs for OpenOffice BiDi support - 9730 and 9731
>
> Please, your help is required. Please D/L the build of
> OpenOffice 64
Hello Ely,
I want to apologies to the list and to Ely about my lack of
carful reading of his email, and assukming he was talking
about OO 1.0.1 and not 1.1
The rest of the group has already gave him the correct
answer.
--
Best regards,
Shoshannahmailto:[EMAIL PROTEC
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
.. still on Windows, but Microsoft is mad nonetheless.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/34154.html
Apparently, the feeling is mutual. ;-)
I find it amusing that "The Register" treat all stories regarding
anything Israeli MS related as having to do with the mac.
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
.. still on Windows, but Microsoft is mad nonetheless.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/34154.html
Apparently, the feeling is mutual. ;-)
No surprise here. The windows OS line generates a small amount of money
for MS, compared to the Office product line (I remem
ביום שני, 24 בנובמבר 2003, 16:31, כתבת:
> .. still on Windows, but Microsoft is mad nonetheless.
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/34154.html
>
> Apparently, the feeling is mutual. ;-)
not the government, but IBM. This is a really interesting point everyone for
some reason forgets. Those
Hi,
I just upgraded from RH9 to Fedora Core 1 (FC1?) and whereas my experience has
been wonderful so far, I found the following two issues:
* LPRng disappeared, replaced by CUPS. OK, I don't mind CUPS, except that it
didn't support my printer until I found out the following: My printer, an HP
I'm not sure what you are asking - my "testing" machine has 1.1.2 on it,
and I'm pretty sure I had 1.1.0 before that.
Why are you interested in the package you mention? Just for the culmus
fonts?
--Amos
Omer Zak wrote:
System:
Debian testing non-US (with some unstable
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Omer Zak wrote:
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 15:49:40 +0300
> From: Omer Zak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Linux-IL mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Experience with OpenOffice 1.1.0 under Debian?
>
> System:
> Debian testing no
El jue, 16-09-2004 a las 04:04, Orna Agmon escribió:
> On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Omer Zak wrote:
>
> > Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 15:49:40 +0300
> > From: Omer Zak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Linux-IL mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Exp
ED]>
> > > To: Linux-IL mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: Experience with OpenOffice 1.1.0 under Debian?
> > >
> > > System:
> > > Debian testing non-US (with some unstable packages)
> > >
> > > OpenOffice package of i
One way to do it is to mark all your document and then change the font
to one that recognize hbrew charecters, depend on your installation, one
that works for me is DejaVu Sans or Lucida sans
sara fink wrote:
I wrote a document in hebrew in open office but when I tried to open the
document I
In order to make it your default:
Tools->options->OpenOffice.org Writer->Basic Fonts (CTL)
and set it to "DejaVu Sans"
If you don't find the "Basic Fonts (CTL)" then you didnot enable CTL
Tools->options->Language Settings->Language:
Tick the "Enabled for complex text layout (CTL)"
and choose
excel file created on Windows 98
- edit it with Openoffice on Linux (locale he_IL.UTF-8)
- Send it back to the person who sent it to you
- They try to open it and see squares instead of Hebrew letters (what probably
indicates that it was transformed to Unicode which is not available on
Windows 9
On Thursday 30 June 2005 14:54, Danny Lieberman wrote:
> Aviram
> yes. Windows 98 does Unicode differently - AFAIK it doesnt support
> UCS-2 like OO and MS Office require and modern OS's like NT, 2k and XP
> (and *x) all support
>
But how do word/excel do their magic?
> you're screwed
:-(
> dL
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, Aviram Jenik wrote:
Hi,
Is anyone else experiencing the following problem:
- Take a Hebrew excel file created on Windows 98
- edit it with Openoffice on Linux (locale he_IL.UTF-8)
- Send it back to the person who sent it to you
- They try to open it and see squares
MS Office 2k and above use UCS-2 for the content, MS Office does its
magic because it recognizes documents generated on older versions of
the operating system
- you will see that there is a file format called Excel 5.0/95
Aviram Jenik wrote:
On Thursday 30 June 2005 14:54, Danny Lieberman wrote
t did you save it from Oo ? Oo uses only unicode
> internally.
>
OpenOffice calls it "Microsoft Excel 97/2000/XP"
> Peter
- Aviram
=
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the word "unsubscribe&q
t did you save it from Oo ? Oo uses only unicode
internally.
OpenOffice calls it "Microsoft Excel 97/2000/XP"
That would be more XP/2000 than 97. You have a problem.
Peter
=
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Aviram Jenik wrote:
Hi,
Is anyone else experiencing the following problem:
- Take a Hebrew excel file created on Windows 98
- edit it with Openoffice on Linux (locale he_IL.UTF-8)
- Send it back to the person who sent it to you
- They try to open it and see squares instead of Hebrew letters
On Saturday 02 July 2005 20:16, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:
> Aviram Jenik wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >Is anyone else experiencing the following problem:
> >
> >- Take a Hebrew excel file created on Windows 98
> >- edit it with Openoffice on Linux (locale he_IL.UTF
Ok. Here's a workaround to what seems to be an openoffice bug (and might have
very little to do with Windows 98 or unicode).
Here's a summary of the problem:
On Thursday 30 June 2005 13:21, Aviram Jenik wrote:
> - Take a Hebrew excel file created on Windows 98
> - edit it wi
I am glad to announce that IBM Israel is ready to distribute updates to
the source for OpenOffice word processor (swriter), aimed at providing
Bidi (Hebrew and Arabic) support.
According to the guidelines set by our legal department, we cannot release
the full product, so we have built a set
On Friday 07 June 2002 15:07, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
> On Friday 07 June 2002 21:45, Arie Folger wrote:
> > Also, where are the Openoffice binaries? Do they work well already?
> I think it's only available to debian users...
I just downloaded the rpms. Anybody has comments? I re
on as xmms ?
3) Openoffice 1.0.1 -- I just found out there is ain't RTL/LTR option
in my toolbar... Do I have to switch back to the bidi enabled
one ? Then why did RH included openoffice-l18n ???
Thats all... I guess I will download Xine too if there isn't other option.
Lately (at least with openoffice 3.1.1) tables in hebrew word documents that I
open in oowriter are off screen. Is there any way to push them back to place?
Thanks
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:)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:57:38 -0600 (CST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: BSA Accuses OpenOffice ftp sites of piracy
It seems that some FTP sites that host OpenOffice are getting "cease and
desist" e-mail from the BSA about their purported piracy of MS Off
Arie Folger wrote:
* worse than the above is that the supplied version of OOo, 1.1.0-6, doesn't
seem to do Hebrew. I tested with the installed-from-tarball 1.1.0, and the
latter still works 100%, Hebrew and all, but not so the one that is shipped.
Changing locale doesn't make a difference. Anyb
On Thursday 27 November 2003 18:33, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> Arie Folger wrote:
> >* worse than the above is that the supplied version of OOo, 1.1.0-6,
> > doesn't seem to do Hebrew. I tested with the installed-from-tarball
> > 1.1.0, and the latter still works 100%, Hebrew and all, but not so the
> * LPRng disappeared, replaced by CUPS. OK, I don't mind CUPS, except that
> it didn't support my printer until I found out the following: My printer,
> an HP LJ 1150, cannot be installed using redhat-config-printer, but needs
> to be installed using the web interface, instead. Why?
> (redhat-conf
I deleted all traces of my openoffice installation as far as my homedir goes,
and ran setup from the rpm installed version, and lo and behold, everything
is all right now. Hebrew works, German works (including umlauts, i.e. ÃÃÃ,
and regardless of locale setting, which was an issue in 1.1.0-RC3
Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> Can anyone offer a way to export the syntax highlighting information
> into my presentation in a sane way (i.e. something more automated than
> manually marking constructs in colors).
>
As usual, this list's wonderful support solved the problem for me as
soon as I posted
* Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070127 13:43]:
> Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> > Can anyone offer a way to export the syntax highlighting information
> > into my presentation in a sane way (i.e. something more automated than
> > manually marking constructs in colors).
> >
> As usual, this list
Wow, nowadays, enscript seems to support a long list of languages.
And it uses states to process the text. I wonder how I missed states
previously. It seems to be an interesting tool of its own.
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 13:33 +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> > Can anyone off
On 1/27/07, Baruch Even <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
* Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070127 13:43]:
> Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> > Can anyone offer a way to export the syntax highlighting information
> > into my presentation in a sane way (i.e. something more automated than
> > manually markin
I have opened the following issue, which may be of interest to KDE/OO users:
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=75816
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fn:Daniel Feiglin
n:Feiglin;Daniel
email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
tel;work:972 9 8616204
tel;fax:972 9 8621052
tel;cell:927 52 3869986
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, mulix wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 12:07:55PM +0200, Erez Doron wrote:
> > how mature is openoffice ?
>
> why dont *you* try it and tell *us*?
> not to mention that it's probably been discussed to death on this list
> already. i usually ign
On Sun, May 12, 2002, Matitiahu Allouche wrote about "Bidi updates for OpenOffice word
processor Rel 641D":
> I am glad to announce that IBM Israel is ready to distribute updates to
> the source for OpenOffice word processor (swriter), aimed at providing
> Bidi (Hebrew
Just one note
On Sun, 12 May 2002, Matitiahu Allouche wrote:
> I am glad to announce that IBM Israel is ready to distribute updates to
> the source for OpenOffice word processor (swriter), aimed at providing
> Bidi (Hebrew and Arabic) support.
Glad to see you managed to get at l
r
Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
>Just one note
>
>On Sun, 12 May 2002, Matitiahu Allouche wrote:
>
>
>
>>I am glad to announce that IBM Israel is ready to distribute updates to
>>the source for OpenOffice word processor (swriter), aimed at providing
>>Bidi (Hebrew and
On Sun, 12 May 2002, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> I'm willing to do it, but I will only have the HW to do it in a few days
> (buying a new computer). Plus - I will be compiling on Debian, and I'm
> not sure how adapt Debian is at compiling RPMs. If anyone else with
> shorter timelines wants to volunt
On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 06:54:54PM +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> On Sun, 12 May 2002, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
>
> > I'm willing to do it, but I will only have the HW to do it in a few days
> > (buying a new computer). Plus - I will be compiling on Debian, and I'm
> > not sure how adapt Debian is a
On Sun, May 12, 2002, Shachar Shemesh wrote about "Re: Bidi updates for OpenOffice
word processor Rel 641D":
> I'm willing to do it, but I will only have the HW to do it in a few days
> (buying a new computer). Plus - I will be compiling on Debian, and I'm
> no
yone else with
> shorter timelines wants to volunteer, please do.
a) Debian can compile, and install, RPMs just fine. "apt-get install rpm alien"
b) There are Debian people working on OOo debs, see
http://lists.debian.org/debian-openoffice/
==
ar openoffice.org code? Does it add much overhead to
>the handling of non-Hebrew text?
There is no real good reason. The guys at OpenOffice were very polite,
but never committed to accept our code. They did not develop an
alternative in timely fashion either.
I suppose that if the code is w
Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
>Any comments on the binary compatibility of existing OpenOffice
>builds?
I don't understand what you ask. We are talking about creating a new
build.
Shalom (Regards), Mati
Bidi Architect
Globalization Center Of Competency - Bidirectio
I think Tzafrir is asking whether your patch breaks compatibility with Open
Office 1.0 file format, API, etc...
Hetz
On Monday 13 May 2002 00:14, Matitiahu Allouche wrote:
> Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> >Any comments on the binary compatibility of existing OpenOffice
> >buil
Download OO build 643 and above. Works like a charm. (with swriter).
- Original Message -
From: "Eliran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Linux-IL mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 6:15 PM
Subject: Openoffice 1.0.1, Xine and XMMS
ne in all 3 CDs... same reason as xmms ?
http://www.redhat.com/advice/speaks_80mm.html
3) Openoffice 1.0.1 -- I just found out there is ain't RTL/LTR option
in my toolbar... Do I have to switch back to the bidi
enabled
one ? Then why did RH included openoffice-l1
On Thursday 10 September 2009, Micha Feigin wrote:
> Lately (at least with openoffice 3.1.1) tables in hebrew word documents
> that I open in oowriter are off screen. Is there any way to push them back
> to place?
Right click => table => table tab => fix the left spa
I'm familiar with the problem in 3.1.0, but not with 3.1.1. Could you
send me such a document ?
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Micha Feigin wrote:
> Lately (at least with openoffice 3.1.1) tables in hebrew word documents that I
> open in oowriter are off screen. Is there any way t
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Subject: BSA Accuses OpenOffice ftp sites of piracy
It seems that some FTP sites that host OpenOffice are getting "cease and
desist" e-mail from the BSA about their purported piracy of MS Office.
Maybe their scripts should enhance their search criteria. Imagine the
consequences if the
en
> to be exactly where MS-Word put it. This can't be mistaken.
So... don't open KWord! I don't use any Linux app which imitates the
(broken, IMHO) MS GUI interfaces. Neither KWord, nor evolution, nor
openoffice, nor name-your-favorite-MS-application-Linux-clone.
> First
mistaken.
Just to clarify- the BSA letter was about OpenOffice, *not* KWord
First and foremost, the fact that open source programmers see MS
applications as a model to imitate. This applies for many GUI
applications that we see lately: They smell MS without being MS.
(GNOME & KDE includ
ut it. This can't be mistaken.
>
> So... don't open KWord! I don't use any Linux app which imitates the
> (broken, IMHO) MS GUI interfaces. Neither KWord, nor evolution, nor
> openoffice, nor name-your-favorite-MS-application-Linux-clone.
>
Care to list the alterna
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 05:50:37PM +0200, Alon Weinstein wrote:
> > So... don't open KWord! I don't use any Linux app which imitates the
> > (broken, IMHO) MS GUI interfaces. Neither KWord, nor evolution, nor
> > openoffice, nor name-your-favorite-MS-application-Linux-
Quoth Alon Weinstein on Tue, Mar 04, 2003:
> Care to list the alternative options? I can guess Lyx for document creation,
> GIMP for image manipulation, but that's where my list ends. What are the
> options to perform other common tasks:
>
> -- Email & Organizer (an only-email client is no replace
Quoth Shoshannah Forbes on Tue, Mar 04, 2003:
> IANAL.
> Said that, I am not sure that most of the "windows like" OSS is actaully
> braking intellectual property laws. But this is OT...
Apple say it is breaking intellectual property laws, Microsoft
says (or at least *used* to say) it's not. Look
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
So... don't open KWord!
I had no choice. I had to see what Openoffice was, so I opened it. ;)
Otherwise, I'm a great fan of LaTeX.
But the problem is not that some people want a WYSIWYG word processor,
or spreadsheets. Micro$oft doesn't have any rights
Eli Billauer wrote:
> And the other sad thing, is that Linux is risking its legitimate status
by offending laws of intellectual property. And for no reason at all.
IANAL, but I think Linux is taking the very same risk Microsoft is -
when they took the Mac OS look & feel from Apple. Apple filed s
On 2003-03-04, Eli Billauer wrote:
> Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
>
> >So... don't open KWord!
> >
> I had no choice. I had to see what Openoffice was, so I opened it. ;)
>
You are confused, I'm afraid. KWord is part of KOffice, which is part
of KDE. OpenWriter is
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003, Eli Billauer wrote about "Re: [Fwd: BSA Accuses OpenOffice ftp
sites of piracy]":
> But the problem is not that some people want a WYSIWYG word processor,
> or spreadsheets. Micro$oft doesn't have any rights on the WYSIWYG
> concept. But if you c
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
Eli Billauer wrote:
> And the other sad thing, is that Linux is risking its legitimate
status
by offending laws of intellectual property. And for no reason at all.
IANAL, but I think Linux is taking the very same risk Microsoft is -
when they took the Mac OS look & f
> On Tue, Mar 04, 2003, Eli Billauer wrote about "Re: [Fwd: BSA Accuses OpenOffice
> ftp sites of piracy]":
> > But the problem is not that some people want a WYSIWYG word processor,
> > or spreadsheets. Micro$oft doesn't have any rights on the WYSIWYG
window's outline
> > just happen
> > > to be exactly where MS-Word put it. This can't be mistaken.
> >
> > So... don't open KWord! I don't use any Linux app which imitates the
> > (broken, IMHO) MS GUI interfaces. Neither KWord, nor evolution,
> > Care to list the alternative options? I can guess Lyx for document
> > creation,
> > GIMP for image manipulation, but that's where my list ends. What are
> > the
> > options to perform other common tasks:
> >
> > -- Email & Organizer (an only-email client is no replacement for Outlook
> > or
>
ok, i see that you understand what I sayd before I malied it...
sorry...
> Again I agree, and that is why I fell in love with Linux. To extend my
> previous point -- if there was some kind of a Graphics Interface
> equivalent
> to pipes so people could combine GUI-ed together as easily as doing
"Nadav Har'El" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> And about "looking like MS-Word", do you also say that Mazda cars (say)
> stole something from Ford, because Ford had the concept of a car, with
> four wheels and an engine, before Mazda? Since when is honestly producing
> competing products to successf
EB>> Whatever I think about IP laws, I can't escape the bare fact
EB>> that KWord violates quite a few of them.
When _I_ think about IP laws, I can't help thinking it is basically wrong
to give people ownership of ideas. This concept have gone way too far. If
someone discovered the fact that human
On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 18:38, Vadim Vygonets wrote:
> Quoth Alon Weinstein on Tue, Mar 04, 2003:
> > Care to list the alternative options? I can guess Lyx for document creation,
> > GIMP for image manipulation, but that's where my list ends. What are the
> > options to perform other common tasks:
>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think many people who despise MS (me among them) admit that they are
kings when it comes to GUI design and usability for non-technical users.
I guess you never used a Mac then...
Mac OS9 is one of the best UI out there for "your grandma". OSX does a
fine job as well, al
On 2003-03-04, Vadim Vygonets wrote:
> Quoth Alon Weinstein on Tue, Mar 04, 2003:
> > Care to list the alternative options? I can guess Lyx for document creation,
> > GIMP for image manipulation, but that's where my list ends. What are the
> > options to perform other common tasks:
> >
> > -- Emai
On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 22:05, Shoshannah Forbes wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I think many people who despise MS (me among them) admit that they are
> > kings when it comes to GUI design and usability for non-technical users.
>
> I guess you never used a Mac then...
Not recently. In fact I
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> Not recently. In fact I can't remember when I actually used a Mac.
> My clearest memory is circa Apple IIc and Mac 1 (Marc - it's when we
> first met - do you remember what year it was?)
Certainly before '85. Probably before '83. Possibly around 81-82.
--
---MAV
SF>> Mac OS9 is one of the best UI out there for "your grandma". OSX does a
Maybe for grandma, I don't know, had no chance to ever teach my grandma
computers... But as for me, the mac OS appeared to me first very much
unusable. The concept of "one application per system" is rather confusing
- wher
Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
SF>> Mac OS9 is one of the best UI out there for "your grandma". OSX does a
And so on, and so on - if you catch me in a good moment, I can go on for a
good hour on how the "best GUI ever" is only the best for one who was
trained to use it for years but is outright confusi
window's outline
> > just happen
> > > to be exactly where MS-Word put it. This can't be mistaken.
> >
> > So... don't open KWord! I don't use any Linux app which imitates the
> > (broken, IMHO) MS GUI interfaces. Neither KWord, nor evolution, no
On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 21:44:21 +0200 (IST)
Stanislav Malyshev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> EB>> Whatever I think about IP laws, I can't escape the bare fact
> EB>> that KWord violates quite a few of them.
(EB) declares his hypothesis a fact :-)
> When _I_ think about IP laws, I can't help thinking
You have your expectations mixed - innovation is not the point of
GNU\Linux. Freedom is. I'm not saying this just to sound like Stallman,
it's important to understand that innovation/variety/interest is always
built on the basic platform of freedom. Innovation is the first thing
that goes when ther
Beni Cherniavsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Isn't rsh with an empty password a good replacement for Outlook? :-(
No. The "r" in rsh stands for "restricted"...
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On 2003-03-05, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
> Beni Cherniavsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > Isn't rsh with an empty password a good replacement for Outlook? :-(
>
> No. The "r" in rsh stands for "restricted"...
>
rsh (1) - remote shell
The one that is a big security hole even with a password...
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Beni Cherniavsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 2003-03-05, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
>
> > Beni Cherniavsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > Isn't rsh with an empty password a good replacement for Outlook? :-(
> >
> > No. The "r" in rsh stands for "restricted"...
> >
> rsh (1) - remote shell
On 2003-03-05, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
> For complex things, I usually find complex, sophisticated spreadsheets
> much less maintainable than real programs (or scripts). I have heard
> horror stories about thousands lines of macros that organizations
> depend on and noone knows what's inside the
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Vadim Vygonets wrote:
> Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, Mar 04, 2003:
> > You remind me what I knew about using Windows before I arrived to my
> > current workplace. Outlook is not just a mail client but a (convenient!
> > IMHO) address book + calendar + notes + mail organizer
On Wednesday 05 March 2003 15:59, Beni Cherniavsky wrote:
> - You can't write a loop that will execute the same code many times.
> This too existed in Babbage's engine but algorithms were written
> expecting such an ability long before, for example Euclid's
> algorithm for finding the
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