On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:25:11 +1200 (NZST)
Derek Smithies wrote:
> Hi,
> Ok, let me put the actual number::
>
> when I started with the zx81, I had 1K.
>
> This was "ok" for a bit, but soon ran out of space.
>
> The shop wanted $200 for 16k ram packs.
>I happily forked over the money, and
On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:17:37 +1200
Julian Warwick Bethell wrote:
> I need Help
>
Now tell us what you need help with. :-)
Machine details, Operating System and version, application.
lspci, lsmod and any relavent bits from /var/log/messages
John
On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:17:37 +1200
Julian Warwick Bethell wrote:
> I need Help
>
Me too?
John
On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:43:57 +1200
Wesley Parish wrote:
> Hi, all
>
> This afternoon I was at the St Albans Community Centre downloading some
> freely
> available music and other stuff, and I noticed the download speed was at
> about 56 KB per second, when it usually is faster, usually about 8
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:04:18 +1300
Nick Rout wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Eliot Blennerhassett
> wrote:
> > one...
> >
>
> two, buckle my shoe.
Three four, kick in the door
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:58:59 +1300
chris wrote:
> Hi Steve
> Attached is the ppp log output of the last attempt to connect to xtra.
> This was 5 mins after a successful download of mail etc using the same
> modem from the xp partition
> regards Chris
After looking at your log ... have you run:
'
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:47:22 +1300
Rik Tindall wrote:
> chris wrote:
> > Hi Steve,
> > Yes it is on ttys0, and I can hear the modem negotiate the connection.
> > It then connects, and falls over at the exchange of user names and
> > password.
> > As this is a dual boot system, I know that the issu
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 23:48:50 +1300
Barry Marchant wrote:
> Got it off apc dvd for jan. It looked very impressive as a live cd. I
> installed it tonight on a new ptn... BUT
>
> No root login.(mandriva setup?)
Root login is disabled by default. I think this is case for most
distributions. However
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:22:01 +1300
Tom Munro Glass wrote:
> Although I am using Mandriva, I suspect this question would apply to many
> distros.
>
> I need to install Mandriva on several machines, and each installation needs
> to
> be set up the same way with a number of packages installed, th
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 08:37:29 +1300
chris wrote:
> Thank you, i will follow your suggestion and try it out.
> I have been reading the wvdial man pages, but find that I do not have
> the "vocabulary" need to understand enough of it to help
> Regards Chris T
>
> PS can you expand on why I should add
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:59:04 +1300
chris wrote:
> Can you explain please what is the difference between the ordinary
> wvdial mode and stupid mode
> I am assuming that gnome ppp uses chat?
Gnome-ppp uses wvdial, the preferences tab allows you to enable 'stupid
mode' is you need to use it.
I sug
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:25:23 +1300
John Mallett wrote:
> User-Agent: KMail/1.10.3 (Linux/2.6.27.7-134.fc10.x86_64; KDE/4.1.3; x86_64;
> ; )
it's in your mail headers :-)
John
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:44:12 +1200
Nick Rout wrote:
> >> > This is an old version of the package and it doesn't work with Qt4 4.3.4
> >> >
> >> > Tom
> >> >
> >>
> >> This is what I don't get about Mandrivel. How come if this is an
> >> official package (as the path seems to indicate) you have to
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:10:29 +1200
Nick Rout wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Tom Munro Glass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, Barry Marchant wrote:
> >> WHAT is wrong with the reference I gave you Its what you
> >> asked for.
> >>
> >> Barry
> >
> > Here is
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:43:49 +1200
Tom Munro Glass wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, John Rye wrote:
> >
> > as root:
> >
> > urpmi qt4-database-plugin-ibase-lib
> >
> > John
>
> If only it was that simple - that package doesn't exist, at least not
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:06:08 +1200
Tom Munro Glass wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, Barry Marchant wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I have been running Mandriva since before mandrake 8.
> >
> > 1st question ... what is the app, is the src in a .mdk package? If so,
> > install the pkg as per normal, it will go i
On Wed, 14 May 2008 09:29:48 +1200
Barry wrote:
> Thanks, Please check that its ok now. Its the result of a new install
> which caused me a lot of grief
Nope still showing tomorrow at 0929
John
On Tue, 13 May 2008 00:39:59 +1200
Don Gould wrote:
> In Photoshop there's a 'magic lasoo' tool that attaches 'selection' to
> the outline of an object. It's really useful for clear tracing something.
>
> I can't find it in GIMP. Does anyone know if there's a control plug in
> that does it?
On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 00:21:38 +1200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 23:49:01 +1200, Wesley Parish
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Friday 18 April 2008 12:36, Andrew Errington wrote:
> >> On Fri, April 18, 2008 06:15, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
> >> > On Fri 18 Apr 2008 00:34:28
Hi all
Having noted that this appears to be season during which skip
candidates are offered for re-cycling.
I'm on the hunt for a duplexer for a Lexmark 4039 laser printer as the
magic smoke appears to have escaped from the circuitry on mine.
Cheers
John
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 10:15:43 +1300
Roger Searle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, I have a Gutsy AMD64 install, and found the default driver to be
> unstable (random lockups needing hard power cycling). So I installed
> the latest driver from the nvidia site (100.14.19). The installation
> rou
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 23:15:44 +1300
Wesley Parish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone have any war stories about Linux FOSS XML editors? (I'm teaching
> myself XML, and need a validating XML editor for Linux.) Furthermore, this
> would make a good topic for next year's CLUG meetings.
Bit
On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:51:40 +1300
Don Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Nick, I was starting to wonder if you'd be run over by a bus,
> you've been so quiet.
>
> Yes, lld would have been a good idea.
>
> Turned out that re/installing openssl fixed the problem.
>
> Why synaptic in MDV07
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:02:00 +1200
Don Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John Rye wrote:
> >> I'm still having problems with suspend on my laptop.
> >>
> >> Before I post a bug report, thought I might create an info page:
> >>
> >> h
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:49:15 +1200
Don Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> John Rye wrote:
> > You would have been better off getting Mandriva Spring (2007.1)
>
> Ya, I'm undecided what I should do next.
>
> 08 didn't like some of my hardware and
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:32:30 +1200
Don Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John Rye wrote:
> > No, and not a good idea unless you're a developer either.
> >
> > You would have been better off getting Mandriva Spring (2007.1)
> >
> I don't have wi
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:22:35 +1200
Don Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ssh: symbol lookup error: ssh: undefined symbol: EVP_Cipher
Have you run ssh-keygen on Sarah's machine?
John
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:09:47 +1200
Don Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just downloaded the 3 RC1 cds.
>
> If anyone wants a copy then yell out.
>
> Is anyone using RC1?
No, and not a good idea unless you're a developer either.
You would have been better off getting Mandriva Spring (2007.1
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 00:57:26 +1200
Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
For MDV 2007.0 (fully updated) you should see this:
(Thanks for prompt Christopher)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] main]# ssh -V
OpenSSH_4.5p1, OpenSSL 0.9.8b 04 May 2006
and:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-0]# ldd `which ssh`
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:00:04 +
Don Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John Rye wrote:
> >
> > /var/lib/urpmi for the file lists - have fun :-)
> >
> >
> Any idea which file is the list of rpms I've already got installed?
>
> > Find the
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:10:11 +
Don Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone know where the list of installed packages is stored? (Mandriva 2007)
>
> I know I can use the package manager, but it crashes on the machine.
/var/lib/urpmi for the file lists - have fun :-)
Find the rpmdrake files
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:55:52 +1200
barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Does anyone Have a rpm or tar copy of Adobe Reader for Linux prior to
> version 7.0.8.(it requires Mandrake 10.1 or later or a pile of libraries)
>
> I am setting up an older box with Mandrake 10 in the hope of inf
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:45:18 +1200
Steve Holdoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If the end point of the vpn is behind the router, is said router a) set up to
> allow for vpn passthrough, and b) forwarding udp/500 ( and sometimes tcp/500)
> traffic to the correct device?
>
And last gasp yo
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 23:16:01 +1200
Chris Bayley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The link is posted...
Thanks Chris, getting it now
John
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:15:49 +1300
Chris Bayley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok...
>
> Both John's exposition on the nature of linux and the audio transcript
> of the evening are now available via the clug wiki
> http://clug.net.nz/index.php/PreviousPresentations.
> the audio is in ogg and weighs
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:14:18 -0400
Charles Beneby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How does a person get off of this mailing list
One starts by reading the headers of the mail from the list in question
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 07:52:31 +1300
Robert Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wow, windows vista now has a great new feature called UAC.
>
> "If you use Vista, then you're probably aware that it has a new security
> feature called User Account Control (UAC). This feature enables you log in as
>
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:37:20 +1300
Don Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is just a bit of an update for those interested in the sarga. No
> need to comment unless you really are bored or feel strongly.
>
> :)
>
> I've discovered that not only is it a documented problem, but it's also
>
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:39:23 +1300
Steve Holdoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Welcome to the list John,
Thanks, but been here for several years :-)
>
> I note with interest that my suggestions as to how to make sure that
> there are alternative (potential) solutions to this kind of problem
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:54:35 +1300
Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:07:40 +1300
> Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Thursday 22 February 2007, Don Gould wrote:
> > > David is going to come here to 2/59 Peverel Street at 1pm on Saturday
> > > afte
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:00:50 +1300
Steve Holdoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Isn't this cause for a quick 'how to setup remote access using no-ip or
> similar, and get IM up and running at the same time' article on the wiki?
> That way, no end of us could fix this in our coffee break, and tell
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:34:30 +1300
Rik Tindall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Don Gould wrote:
> > Guess this one's mine as I'm running mdv2007?
>
> Maybe.. It's complex for people to support lots of distros, and urging
> people onto the more-used ones is but one solution for that.
>
> Someone Ma
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:26:55 +1300
Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 February 2007, John Rye wrote:
>
> > /etc/Inittab adjusted, system boots through to cli logon without
> > problems.
> >
> > Monitor is Proview 786N.
> >
&g
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:22:32 +1300
John Rye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:43:53 +1300
> Philip Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I have just been on the phone to David Jarman 03 322 9811 (ChCh). He is a
> > Mandriva user who has
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:43:53 +1300
Philip Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have just been on the phone to David Jarman 03 322 9811 (ChCh). He is a
> Mandriva user who has run into problems with 2007 (2006 was okay).
>
> He has no email at present and not much in the way of Linux skills.
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 21:02:16 +1300
Robert Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wednesday 14 February 2007 8:48 pm, John Rye wrote:
>
> > Hi Rob, remember where Newall School was? Way up from there :-)
> >
> Sure do. My Mum used to teach there.
Ahh, spawn of Joce
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:21:35 +1300
Robert Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wednesday 14 February 2007 7:20 pm, John Rye wrote:
>
> > What they're offering is very attractive for my location (Western
> > slopes of Mt Egmont)
>
> (Out of interest) Wher
Does anyone know if these people still exist? They are/were Chch-based
(3 Madras St from memory) but the webpage appears to be down since I
last checked on Monday
I've left several messages on an answerphone but have had no response.
What they're offering is very attractive for my location (Weste
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 21:52:42 +1300
Don Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anyone played with mdv2007 and the power suspect, hibernate and USB
> key unmounting when you close the lid?
I'd be trying the Mandriva-specific lists for a question of this nature
http://www.mandriva.com/en/mailing_l
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:02:33 +1300
Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 11 January 2007 21:10, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
> > > Installation is mandriva LE 2005
> > > Package is AdbeRdr70_linux__enu.tar.gz from adobe
> >
> > Ouch. Always install the distro-supplied package if t
On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:33:35 +1200
Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK Andrew you are right again, I set up to usae the new modem and was
> querying it fine and getting the right responses but
> dummy me when i went back to the dialling box I didnt think to change
> the modem in that box
> (ac
On Thu, 25 May 2006 15:46:25 +1200
Volker Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > download it while you can!
>
> I got
>
> 7018444 2006-05-25 15:36:23 /tmp/Telecon.avi
mmm, I got it from google:
10351086 May 22 21:25 Telecomcommercialspo.avi
Plays fine on everything I've opened it with.
Matthew Whiting wrote:
> I tried using your options file but didn't have any luck. Contents of my
> options file:
>
> asyncmap 0
> noauth
> crtscts
> lock
> hide-password
> modem
> debug
> proxyarp
> lcp-echo-interval 30
> lcp-echo-failure 4
> noipx
Matthew,
I'm not sure if I sent this to you ea
Matthew Whiting wrote:
> Okay, from /var/log/syslog:
>
> Feb 24 13:27:42 localhost kernel: [4300481.877000] PPP generic driver
> version 2.4.2
> Feb 24 13:27:42 localhost pppd[9069]: pppd 2.4.3 started by matthew, uid 1000
> Feb 24 13:27:42 localhost pppd[9069]: Using interface ppp0
> Feb 24 13:27
Ross Drummond wrote:
> Has anyone had the same problem or able to offer a solution?
Ross, don't know if you found a solution but I had this problem about 6
months ago, I solved it (I think) by making /etc/ppp/options look like this:
=== cut here ===
lock
noauth
defaultroute
ipcp-max-configure 65
Ross Drummond wrote:
> A digression regarding Telecom Govt and betrayal.
>
> Do you recall studying the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact[1] in history.
>
> This treaty was between the two most mean unprincipled sharks in history.
> Hitler and Stalin in which they agreed not to attack one another. We all
Nick Rout wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 20:23:05 +1300
> John Rye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> BCL already have a broadband offering.
>>
>> http://www.bclnz.co.nz/index.php/pi_pageid/23
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> John
>
> the only one of t
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Don Gould wrote:
> What application am I meant to install/use to watch a DVD?
>
> Cheers Don
vlc works well for me.
Get libdvdcss2 from the plf repositories
Cheers
John
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Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
>>I emailed the lm_sensors list and with an example and was told
>>you should configure your sensors.conf and change the multipliers
>>for the fans and whatever that are out of range.
>
>
> Yes, configuring sensors.conf is the
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Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
>>I need to do some 'ls' commands which need to include the full path as well.
>
>
> find / ... print0 | xargs -0 --no-run-if-empty ls -ld | sort
>
> I have a script for this sort of thing:
>
> listall /
Thanks Volker
D
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Christopher Sawtell wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 19:52, John Rye wrote:
>
>>Would someone jog my memory please?
>>
>>I need to do some 'ls' commands which need to include the full path as
>>well.
>>
&
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Would someone jog my memory please?
I need to do some 'ls' commands which need to include the full path as well.
Eg an 'ls -l ' but with output similar to the following
(wrapped by t'bird):
- -rw-r--r-- 1 bob bob 166595 Dec 8 19:30
/home/bob/Docum
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Phill Coxon wrote:
> Occassionally on my new server (Mandrake 2006) something starts a *lot*
> of disk activity causing the desktop to get very sluggish for 5 minutes
> or so. Very likely some database indexing files on the drive.
>
> CPU load remain
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Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
> I'm starting to suspect that "reset to factory defaults" sets some
> default password. Stellar-sized doh. Anyone got a few common factory
> bios password to try?
try some of these and variations
j262
AWARD_SW
AWARD_PW
lkwpet
Steve Holdoway wrote:
Eee when I were a lad, hard disks were 5 or 10MB...
Steve
Eee when I were a lad, it cost $15,000 to shift from 5 to 10MB
John
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:14:58 +1300
Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 13:05 +1300, John Rye wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:05:04 +1300
> > Rik Tindall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I finally used the the "Other_OS"
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:05:04 +1300
Rik Tindall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I finally used the the "Other_OS" solution to my "Why won't it do what
I want" situation and made a clean start.
I'm not entirely certain what I did differently during the install itself
the second time but I was able to ac
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:23:53 +1300
Rik Tindall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John Rye wrote:
>
> >How the hell are new users supposed to be able to get this
> >distributiion
> >going on a dial-up modem if one with 5 years of Linux experience
>
OK guys and gals, I'm at the end of my tether!!!
How the hell are new users supposed to be able to get this distributiion
going on a dial-up modem if one with 5 years of Linux experience
(admittedly with Mandrake) can't !!! ???
Hell! Do I miss those MDK wizards!
I have spent most of the last two
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:48:16 +1300 (NZDT)
John Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Someone in our company has installed Mandrake 10.1 Official, but
> curiously enough on none of the 3 CD's nor the Mini CD is there an rpm
> for the autoconf automake tools.
>
> This seems remarkably broken.
>
>
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:41:32 +1300
Carl Cerecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Steve Holdoway wrote:
> > John Rye wrote:
>
> >> Could someone show me how to count the total number of words in a
> >> group of
> >> files which are located in the sam
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:13:30 +1300
Steve Holdoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John Rye wrote:
>
> >Mental blockage!!
> >
> >Lots of googling hasn't helped much.
> >
> >Could someone show me how to count the total number of words in a group
>
Mental blockage!!
Lots of googling hasn't helped much.
Could someone show me how to count the total number of words in a group of
files which are located in the same directory?
Cheers
John
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On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 13:20:14 +1300
Hugo Vincent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
{snip}
> > You young fellers have gotta start remembering that your parents' "new
> > idea" processing skills are no way near as capabable as yours any more
> > that your own can match the those capabilities if a say 5 yea
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:45:53 +1300
Hugo Vincent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I set up a PC for my parents to do their email on, with Mandrake 10 and
> Firefox/Thunderbird, but for some reason, their is no Shutdown item on
> the menu. I can't remember how to allow the normal us
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:16:01 +1300
Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> A while ago I set up my Mandrake8.2 to automatically start Icewm.
>
> I have now decided to revert to a runlevel 3 startup so I can start a
> selected wm with 'startx','startx icewm' or 'startx kde'. Now only
> icewm will
On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 12:46:06 +1300
eBhakta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hmm... :|
>
> First try yourself, before expecting others to follow anything you
> say. This forum needs some serious Linux heavyweights, to deal with
> those trying to corrupt/destroy the system (such as in this case). No
>
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 08:35:40 +1300
Jim Cheetham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks Jim,
> On Nov 3, 2004, at 11:45 PM, John Rye wrote:
> > Does Ubantu use run-levels?
>
> Of course it does, it's a Linux :-)
>
> But "everything" runs at all available ru
On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 20:47:42 +1300
Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Nick,
Does Ubantu use run-levels?
If the system is dual-booting surely lilo or grub will permit logging on
in text mode?
Cheers
John (The NI Lurker)
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On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 09:56:52 +1300
Michael JasonSmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-10-31 at 20:02, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
> > On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:54, eBhakta wrote:
> > > Module...?
> > Kernel file system driver.
> Or to put it another way: you can think of a module as small pr
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 12:36:47 +1300
Roger Searle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't even know if my modem is supported or what type it is, except
> it's an onboard thing, Acer Travelmate, I'm running SuSE 9.1. Can
> someone get me started on setting up a dialup connection?
Ahhh there is another
On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 13:57:54 +1300
Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Its been done
>
> can't remember the name of the package.
>
> actually cyrus and courier do maintain a database of mails, but not in
> sql format.
>
> there is another imap package (well at least one) that stores mail in
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