linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread m.w.chang
We now got Knoppix and Gentoo that basically boot you into a working linux. how could you start building a system using instructions on linuxfromscratch if you don't even have any linux distribution? kind of like what Mr. Trovald got when he wrote linux-0.1. can one walk in his shoes? --

Re: gcc-2.95.3 and libstdc++-2.92

2003-01-29 Thread m.w.chang
got the answer from news://news.linux.org.hk http://gcc.gnu.org/libstdc++/status.html The most recent version of this library that will build with GCC 2.95.2 is the ninth snapshot release, libstdc++-2.90.8.tar.gz. ok, I am and was not familiar with gcc stuffs... sorry. m.w.chang wrote: seems

Folks any links to SCSI tape drive setup sites

2003-01-29 Thread James McDonald
I have just had a sco box at work kark itself and it was upgraded to rh7.2 the only issue is the sony 9000 dat drive is now spitting back WR_PROT errors any ideas/web sites ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc

Re: gcc-3.2.1

2003-01-29 Thread m.w.chang
ok. gcc 3.2.1 built following gcc_notes. proftpd-1.2.8cvs built ok (now using it). now going back to htdig-3.1.6 (which complained loudly about ostream...) m.w.chang wrote: seems that libstdc++-2.92 was NOT meant for gcc-2.95.3. even caldera used libstdc++-2.10 only. what should be the most

Re: wireless question

2003-01-29 Thread Susan Macchia
I just added wireless capability and went the with simplest (but not least expensive) way. My setup: Cabel Modem | Linksys Cable/DSL 4 port Router w/ wireless (it can do both) ||. . ||. . Linux PCLinux

PDF Service with Samba

2003-01-29 Thread Tim Wunder
I've recently read an article written in 2001 for Linux Gazette, http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue72/bright.html, concerning setting up a PDF service with Samba. It looked rather interesting and fairly straightforward to set up, so I gave it a shot. I'm currently using Samba 2.2.0 (I know, I

Re: Folks any links to SCSI tape drive setup sites

2003-01-29 Thread Net Llama!
What's the exact error you're seeing? Oh, and please fix your wordwrap to something under 80 char/line. On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, James McDonald wrote: I have just had a sco box at work kark itself and it was upgraded to rh7.2 the only issue is the sony 9000 dat drive is now spitting back WR_PROT

Re: Folks any links to SCSI tape drive setup sites

2003-01-29 Thread James Bonnet
James McDonald wrote: I have just had a sco box at work kark itself and it was upgraded to rh7.2 the only issue is the sony 9000 dat drive is now spitting back *WR_PROT errors any ideas/web sites* ** ** Its probably none of my business.. But, why would you upgrade to rh7,2? Didn't you

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread James Bonnet
m.w.chang wrote: We now got Knoppix and Gentoo that basically boot you into a working linux. how could you start building a system using instructions on linuxfromscratch if you don't even have any linux distribution? kind of like what Mr. Trovald got when he wrote linux-0.1. can one walk

No sound from audio cd's

2003-01-29 Thread Gerry Doris
I've been knocking my head against the screen for the last couple of days. I can't play audio cd's no matter what I do. I can burn audio cd's successfully. I can play both wav and mp3 files from disk. However, when I try and play directly from cd everything looks ok but there isn't any

Re: No sound from audio cd's

2003-01-29 Thread Tom Wilson
Not trying to be facetious here but are you sure that there is a audio cable running from you cd-rom to your sound card? That would be my first guess. --Tom Wilson - Original Message - From: Gerry Doris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:47:08 -0500 (EST) To: SXS Users

Re: No sound from audio cd's

2003-01-29 Thread Gerry Doris
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Tom Wilson wrote: Not trying to be facetious here but are you sure that there is a audio cable running from you cd-rom to your sound card? That would be my first guess. --Tom Wilson Yes, there is an audio cable connected. I even booted back to win98 (it's been a

Re: No sound from audio cd's

2003-01-29 Thread Ted Ozolins
Gerry Doris wrote: I've been knocking my head against the screen for the last couple of days. I can't play audio cd's no matter what I do. I can burn audio cd's successfully. I can play both wav and mp3 files from disk. However, when I try and play directly from cd everything looks ok but

Re: No sound from audio cd's

2003-01-29 Thread James Bonnet
Gerry Doris wrote: I've been knocking my head against the screen for the last couple of days. I can't play audio cd's no matter what I do. I can burn audio cd's successfully. I can play both wav and mp3 files from disk. However, when I try and play directly from cd everything looks ok but

Re: Knoppix to the rescue!

2003-01-29 Thread Bob Hemus
Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: Net Llama! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] typed thusly on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 12:25 PM: Do your own stinking taxes. It build character ;) Thus speaks someone with more time than money and no need of many and varied deductions. Wait until you get a bit

Re: No sound from audio cd's

2003-01-29 Thread Ben Duncan
U ... do you have the CD slide on the Mixer turned up? Make sure that there is no mixer conflicts. Gerry Doris wrote: I've been knocking my head against the screen for the last couple of days. I can't play audio cd's no matter what I do. I can burn audio cd's successfully. I can play

Re: No sound from audio cd's

2003-01-29 Thread Net Llama!
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Gerry Doris wrote: I've been knocking my head against the screen for the last couple of days. I can't play audio cd's no matter what I do. I can burn audio cd's successfully. I can play both wav and mp3 files from disk. However, when I try and play directly from cd

Re: No sound from audio cd's

2003-01-29 Thread ronnie gauthier
Open Kmix and see if the cd is selected. On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:47:08 -0500 (EST) - Gerry Doris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the following Re: No sound from audio cd's I've been knocking my head against the screen for the last couple of days. I can't play audio cd's no matter what I do. I can burn

Re: No sound from audio cd's

2003-01-29 Thread Tim Wunder
On 1/29/2003 12:16 PM, someone claiming to be Gerry Doris wrote: On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Tom Wilson wrote: Not trying to be facetious here but are you sure that there is a audio cable running from you cd-rom to your sound card? That would be my first guess. --Tom Wilson Yes, there is an

Re: No sound from audio cd's - Fixed

2003-01-29 Thread Gerry Doris
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Tim Wunder wrote: On 1/29/2003 12:16 PM, someone claiming to be Gerry Doris wrote: On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Tom Wilson wrote: Not trying to be facetious here but are you sure that there is a audio cable running from you cd-rom to your sound card? That would be my

Re: No sound from audio cd's - Fixed

2003-01-29 Thread Net Llama!
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Gerry Doris wrote: Hmmm, this is weird. I now have it working. If I use kmix I can get it to work. However, if I use the gnome mixer (the one on the sound menu called Volume Control) it kills the sound as soon as it opens. There is no way to turn the sound on again

Re: No sound from audio cd's - Fixed

2003-01-29 Thread Gerry Doris
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Net Llama! wrote: On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Gerry Doris wrote: Hmmm, this is weird. I now have it working. If I use kmix I can get it to work. However, if I use the gnome mixer (the one on the sound menu called Volume Control) it kills the sound as soon as it opens.

Re: No sound from audio cd's - Fixed

2003-01-29 Thread Tim Wunder
On 1/29/2003 1:39 PM, someone claiming to be Gerry Doris wrote: On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Tim Wunder wrote: On 1/29/2003 12:16 PM, someone claiming to be Gerry Doris wrote: On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Tom Wilson wrote: Not trying to be facetious here but are you sure that there is a audio cable

Re: No sound from audio cd's - Fixed

2003-01-29 Thread James Bonnet
Hmmm, this is weird. I now have it working. If I use kmix I can get it to work. However, if I use the gnome mixer (the one on the sound menu called Volume Control) it kills the sound as soon as it opens. There is no way to turn the sound on again except to start kmix and turn on the cd

Re: No sound from audio cd's - Fixed

2003-01-29 Thread Net Llama!
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Tim Wunder wrote: I really don't think RH put much effort into getting KDE working right under BlueCurve. If you're gonna run one of the RH stock desktops, use Redhat admitted it. In one interview from LinuxWorld last week, (i think it was on slashdot, or newsforge) they

Re: No sound from audio cd's - Fixed

2003-01-29 Thread Gerry Doris
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Net Llama! wrote: On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Tim Wunder wrote: I really don't think RH put much effort into getting KDE working right under BlueCurve. If you're gonna run one of the RH stock desktops, use Redhat admitted it. In one interview from LinuxWorld last week, (i

Re: No sound from audio cd's - Fixed

2003-01-29 Thread Net Llama!
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Gerry Doris wrote: On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Net Llama! wrote: On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Tim Wunder wrote: I really don't think RH put much effort into getting KDE working right under BlueCurve. If you're gonna run one of the RH stock desktops, use Redhat admitted it. In

Re: No sound from audio cd's - Fixed

2003-01-29 Thread Tim Wunder
On 1/29/2003 2:44 PM, someone claiming to be Net Llama! wrote: On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Gerry Doris wrote: On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Net Llama! wrote: On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Tim Wunder wrote: I really don't think RH put much effort into getting KDE working right under BlueCurve. If you're gonna run

Re: No sound from audio cd's - Fixed

2003-01-29 Thread Net Llama!
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Tim Wunder wrote: That was BeRo. And he's working on a new linux distro, isn't he? At least according to a Newsforge NewsVac story I read a while back. Ark Linux, or something like that. -- ~~ Lonni

OOo.org 1.0.2

2003-01-29 Thread Tim Wunder
Anybody install OOo.org version 1.0.2? Is it worth the effort? I've heard that there's a speed improvement, but no new features. Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -

Re: OOo.org 1.0.2

2003-01-29 Thread Net Llama!
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Tim Wunder wrote: Anybody install OOo.org version 1.0.2? Is it worth the effort? I've heard that there's a speed improvement, but no new features. I didn't know it was released. Is there a CHANGELOG somewhere? --

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread Douglas J Hunley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 m.w.chang spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: We now got Knoppix and Gentoo that basically boot you into a working linux. how could you start building a system using instructions on linuxfromscratch if you don't even have any linux

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread Net Llama!
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Douglas J Hunley wrote: m.w.chang spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: We now got Knoppix and Gentoo that basically boot you into a working linux. how could you start building a system using instructions on linuxfromscratch if you don't even have any linux

Re: KDE 3.1 stable up for ftp

2003-01-29 Thread Douglas J Hunley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Aaron Grewell spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: Have you tried using the Konstruct tool from KDE's site? I've been trying to get it to compile using the tool since yesterday, and so far it has been kind of a pain. I had some weird

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread James Bonnet
Net Llama! wrote: On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Douglas J Hunley wrote: m.w.chang spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: We now got Knoppix and Gentoo that basically boot you into a working linux. how could you start building a system using instructions on linuxfromscratch if you don't

Re: KDE 3.1 stable up for ftp

2003-01-29 Thread Jerry McBride
KDE 3.1 is here and about as nice as it can be... However, I had two compile issues... The first compile problem had to do with multiple copies of zlib on my system. The compiled terminated with gzgets errors... What happened is, I have a system with a copy of zlib on it plus XF86Config with

Re: No sound from audio cd's - Fixed

2003-01-29 Thread Michael Scottaline
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Tim Wunder wrote: I really don't think RH put much effort into getting KDE working right under BlueCurve. If you're gonna run one of the RH stock desktops, use Redhat admitted it. In one interview from LinuxWorld last week, (i think it was on slashdot, or newsforge)

Re: KDE 3.1 stable up for ftp

2003-01-29 Thread Jerry McBride
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:37:09 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 29 January 2003 7:02 pm, someone claiming to be Jerry McBride wrote: snip The second issue has to do with the KDE 3.1 requirement of having some of components of Mozilla hanging around... namely the

Re: PDF Service with Samba

2003-01-29 Thread Matt Nelson
Have you gotten any help with this? I'd like to set it up too but would like to know of any pitfalls before hand -- Matt On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 08:43, Tim Wunder wrote: I've recently read an article written in 2001 for Linux Gazette, http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue72/bright.html, concerning

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread Kurt Wall
Feigning erudition, dep wrote: % begin Kurt Wall's quote: % | Feigning erudition, James Bonnet wrote: % | % | [...] % | % | % kinda like if I made a new OS jimbix on xenix or something... =) % | % | Jimbix! I like that. % % yup. i loved it as a kid -- getting up in the morning and having a big

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread m.w.chang
yes, WITH ABSOLUTE CONFIDENCE. it's a typo.. I didn't double-check. why were you installing Caldera WITHOUT ABSOLUTE CONFIDENCE? Don't you mean with absolute confidence? I'm not clear on your meaning of I didn't need to backup my data partition to install COL 3.1 I have no courage to do that

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread tom
Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 01/29/03 17:59, tom wrote: I would stay away from RH or Mandrake, since the compilier is now non-GNU, and is somewhat troublesome on the edition after 7.0, without severe patching. Huh? Where did you get that idea? Uhm, well, I don't know. :) Maybe

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread Net Llama!
On 01/29/03 19:16, tom wrote: Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 01/29/03 17:59, tom wrote: I would stay away from RH or Mandrake, since the compilier is now non-GNU, and is somewhat troublesome on the edition after 7.0, without severe patching. Huh? Where did you get that idea? Uhm,

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread Kurt Wall
Feigning erudition, Net Llama! wrote: % % Redhat-7.0 had a seriously broken gcc implimentation. 8.0 has a beta % release of glibc. All the intermediate releases had no such problems, % and use standards compliant releases of gcc glibc. I beg your pardon, but Red Hat 7.3 still used GCC 2.96:

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread Net Llama!
I've never had a single problem installing Redhat 7.1, 7.2 or 7.3. On 01/29/03 19:31, Joel Hammer wrote: This reminds me of the problems I had with RH 7.2 or whatever. I think redhat was not using the partitions properly. As I RECALL, I made everything just one big partition and it worked.

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread Net Llama!
On 01/29/03 19:42, Kurt Wall wrote: Feigning erudition, Net Llama! wrote: % % Redhat-7.0 had a seriously broken gcc implimentation. 8.0 has a beta % release of glibc. All the intermediate releases had no such problems, % and use standards compliant releases of gcc glibc. I beg your pardon,

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread tom
m.w.chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sorry to say that Redhat's whole installation is less than trivial, esp if you compare it against the old Caldera product lines. I'm sorry to butt in, but I've never had a REDHAT installations heave like your mentioning here. Sounds like your installing

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread m.w.chang
no. it's just a P3 on a Abit TUSLC-2 and CUBX with 384M RAM. I'm sorry to butt in, but I've never had a REDHAT installations heave like your mentioning here. Sounds like your installing on the latest and greatest Pentium 4, with the ia-32bit verision, or the CDROM your using is a dud. No. I

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread Andrew Mathews
m.w.chang wrote: snip I didn't need to backup my data partition to install COL 3.1 I have no courage to do that with Redhat 8's installation. .. ...scarry Yes, you *do* need to backup your data partition, especially if you're moving to a more modern filesystem type. (Caldera 3.1 is

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread Net Llama!
Since when is a P4 the same as IA64?? On 01/29/03 20:02, tom wrote: m.w.chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sorry to say that Redhat's whole installation is less than trivial, esp if you compare it against the old Caldera product lines. I'm sorry to butt in, but I've never had a REDHAT

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread m.w.chang
I don't know what redhat was doing at all, but compared my virgin experienemnt with redhat ahd col, redhat is a mess. for any newbies, backup is a must. the distribution. I understand you're speaking of your confidence level, not of the actual, realistic differences of the install process,

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread m.w.chang
on the other hand, I am expecting a proven COL 3.1.1 workstaiton cdrom from the mailbox. I had one working copy, but its surface was scratched badly. All recent attempts to pull the same disk image off ftp.iso.caldera.com failed to produce a working cdrom. Maybe you should try downloading the

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread tom
Greets Net Llama; Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since when is a P4 the same as IA64?? Isn't it? I've seen the progression of the hardware over the years as this; 386-486 = 16 bit OS platforms/ 32 bit architecture 586-686-P3 = 32 bit OS platforms/ 64 bit architecture P4- P5 - P6 = 64

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread m.w.chang
I only heard that 32bit OS could not handles date arithematics after 2038... :) And as I understand it, going from 32 bits to 64 bits creates problems, and a OS developer has to start from the ground all over again? -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux We Trust.

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread Federico Voges
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, 80386, 80486, Pentium, Pentium MMX/Pro/II/III/4 (including Celerons)= IA32 (or i386) - 32 bits Itanium, Itanium 2 = IA64 - 64 bits IIRC IAxx means something like Intel Architecture xx bits (or something like that) Bye! On Thu, 30 Jan 2003

Re: Sendmail: Proxy server or whatever

2003-01-29 Thread ronnie gauthier
If comcast allows what you are doing it may be as simple as asking them to put you into their reverse lookup table. On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:01:29 -0500 - Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the following Re: Sendmail: Proxy server or whatever I am on comcast cable. I run sendmail to directly