Recently, my father (who is an OS/2 die-hard) purchaced a SCSI CDRW
(Yamaha) which he could not get to work. After two weeks of trying, he
asked me to see if I could get it to work in my Linux box. Now, my linux
box is based on Red Hat 7.2 and has been updated to kernel 2.4.17 -
nothing out of the
On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 04:32:40PM -0500, Kurt Wall wrote:
...
>A plant originally used in the American southeast as roadside cover,
>until governments discovered that it grows very rapidly, is
>impossible to kill, and entombs everything in its path in a very
>attractive, leafy vine.
I had a frie
On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 04:34, Net Llama wrote:
> Oh gawd no. Kudzu is the biggest flaming POS i've come across in all of
> Linux. I've stopped counting the number of boxes that its locked up,
> fubarred or othewise rendered useless.
The part of kudzu I am impressed with is it's auto-detection of
--- Mike Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 04:34, Net Llama wrote:
>
> > Oh gawd no. Kudzu is the biggest flaming POS i've come across in
> all of
> > Linux. I've stopped counting the number of boxes that its locked
> up,
> > fubarred or othewise rendered useless.
>
> The
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 08:36:09 -0800 (PST)
Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- Mike Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 04:34, Net Llama wrote:
> >
> > > Oh gawd no. Kudzu is the biggest flaming POS i've come across in
> > all of Linux. I've stopped counting the numb
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 15:41:08 -0700
Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Unless I miss my guess, Llllama, kudzu isn't designed for guys like you
> .. I disabled it on my elx distro, because I didn't plan to
> change any hardware, but it was certainly harmless when I had it
enabled.
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 16:11:34 -0800
Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 15:41:08 -0700
> Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > Unless I miss my guess, Llllama, kudzu isn't designed for guys like
> > you.. I disabled it on my elx distro, because I didn't
On Sunday 27 January 2002 05:27 pm, Collins Richey wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 16:11:34 -0800
>
> Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 15:41:08 -0700
> >
> > Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Unless I miss my guess, Llllama, kudzu isn't designed for guys lik
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:27:09 -0700
Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> kde is a pig to start on any distro, but a little
> better on FreeBSD. kudzu took about 30-40 seconds that I considered
> wasted effort, so I disabled it. I'm an xfce biggot, too.
oops, are we talking freebsd?
I'm
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 17:56:47 -0800
Ted Ozolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Collins that problem of waiting for a directory to list (KDE) is the
very > reason why I dumped Elx RC1 and RC2. I found the whole distro too
> Microsoftish. I didn't like what they did with Webmin (in my opinion
> c
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:21:53 -0800
Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So I'm open to another choice. I'd been using libranet, but
> their new release took too long. (And debian is too easy! ;-)
Oh, and the networking doesn't quite work here, maybe since I use dhcp for
my huge 2 computer netw
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:08:09 -0800
Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:27:09 -0700
> Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > kde is a pig to start on any distro, but a little
> > better on FreeBSD. kudzu took about 30-40 seconds that I considered
> > wasted ef
On Sunday 27 January 2002 06:28 pm, Ken Moffat wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:21:53 -0800
> Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> So I'm open to another choice. I'd been using libranet, but
>
> > their new release took too long. (And debian is too easy! ;-)
>
> Oh, and the networking doesn't
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 19:51:18 -0700
Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> One other respondent on this thread (I lost the post) stated that ELX
> overwrote his MBR. I selected the don't do anything option (there were
> three choices), and ELX definitely did not write to the MBR.
That wa
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 21:07:56 -0800
Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 19:51:18 -0700
> Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > One other respondent on this thread (I lost the post) stated that ELX
> > overwrote his MBR. I selected the don't do anything opti
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:51:23 -0700
Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It will be a few more months, probably, but gentoo will be the killer
> distro - my $.02.
guess I'd better have a look. Thanks.
--
Ken Moffat
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On Saturday 19 January 2002 10:58 am, Myles Green wrote:
> In less than one hour I was able to install the hardware, have the
> system detect it (kudzu), read /var/log/messages to see which module the
> Adaptec SCSI card needed, modprobe the module and add a line to
> /etc/rc.d/rc.local (modprobe
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 11:08:28 -0500
Bruce Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Saturday 19 January 2002 10:58 am, Myles Green wrote:
> > In less than one hour I was able to install the hardware, have the
> > system detect it (kudzu), read /var/log/messages to see which module
> > the Adaptec S
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 08:58:41 -0700 Myles Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Recently, my father (who is an OS/2 die-hard) purchaced a SCSI CDRW
> (Yamaha) which he could not get to work. After two weeks of trying, he
> asked me to see if I could get it to work in my Linux box.
Having moved from
From: "Jerry McBride" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Recently, my father (who is an OS/2 die-hard) purchaced a SCSI CDRW
> > (Yamaha) which he could not get to work. After two weeks of trying, he
> > asked me to see if I could get it to work in my Linux box.
>
> Having moved from OS/2 to linux just a cou
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 11:05:54 -0600 "Michael Hipp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: "Jerry McBride" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Recently, my father (who is an OS/2 die-hard) purchaced a SCSI CDRW
> > > (Yamaha) which he could not get to work. After two weeks of trying, he
> > > asked me to see if
On Saturday 19 January 2002 11:22 am, Myles Green wrote:
>
>
> > Impressive yes but there is a long, long way to go.
>
> True enough but this would not have been possible even a year ago - I
> would have had to work much harder at getting it to work.
>
> BTW Bruce, are you still using OS/2
On Jan 19 Michael Hipp was heard saying:
->From: "Jerry McBride" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
->> > Recently, my father (who is an OS/2 die-hard) purchaced a SCSI CDRW
->> > (Yamaha) which he could not get to work. After two weeks of trying, he
->> > asked me to see if I could get it to work in my Linux b
ot; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: an interesting experience
> On Jan 19 Michael Hipp was heard saying:
>
> ->From: "Jerry McBride" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ->> > Recently, my father
On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 20:17:32 -0600
"Michael Hipp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the bitstream:
> My point is that we need to make this stuff *simple*. Rather than brag
> about how we're able to do hard things. Let's brag about how an ordinary
> joe doesn't need to do hard things 'cause it's all
Please excuse me for just bargeing into this thread.
> Now, someone, somewhere may have a GUI way to edit those /etc/pcmcia/*.opt
> files. I don't, it would just slow me down. And the edit is a one-time
> thing. Done once, forgotten forever.
David, you have a point there, but there are other
On Sunday 20 January 2002 06:49 pm, David A. Bandel wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 20:17:32 -0600
>
> "Michael Hipp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the bitstream:
> > My point is that we need to make this stuff *simple*. Rather than brag
> > about how we're able to do hard things. Let's brag about
- Original Message -
From: "David A. Bandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: an interesting experience
> I was told (don't know first-hand) that Windoze didn't (does it now?)
> all
Michael Hipp babbled on about:
> I just spent a very long frustrating week working for many hours every day
> to get an ATI XPERT 128 card to work under Linux. Xfree says it works. The
> COL list says it works. But I tried 2+ different distros and 3 different
> machines and more XF86Config files t
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:17,Michael Hipp scribed:
> My point is that we need to make this stuff *simple*. Rather than brag
> about how we're able to do hard things. Let's brag about how an ordinary
> joe doesn't need to do hard things 'cause it's all easy (in Linux).
>
> Michael
I have a feeling th
On Jan 20 Michael Hipp was heard saying:
->My point is that we need to make this stuff *simple*. Rather than brag about
->how we're able to do hard things. Let's brag about how an ordinary joe
->doesn't need to do hard things 'cause it's all easy (in Linux).
*** One, I don't see why ordinary Jo
Previously, Douglas J Hunley chose to write:
> Michael Hipp babbled on about:
> > I just spent a very long frustrating week working for many hours every
> > day to get an ATI XPERT 128 card to work under Linux. Xfree says it
> > works. The COL list says it works. But I tried 2+ different distros a
On Sunday 20 January 2002 21:49, David A. Bandel wrote:
| Before Windoze 98 hit the streets, I had a laptop running Linux. I
| remember folks eyes popping wide open when I'd reach over and pop
| out the PCMCIA card while the system was running. Then a minute
| later, pop it back in and it just
- Original Message -
From: "Douglas J Hunley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: an interesting experience
> Michael Hipp babbled on about:
> > I just spent a very long frustrating week w
- Original Message -
From: "dep" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -- can ease of use be achieved
> without compromising security? -- i do not know, and neither does
> microsoft, because it's never been a concern of theirs. nor do they
> intend for it to be, because their idea is to own your compute
--- Michael Hipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's entirely different on Win. Windows doesn't ask me what my dot
> clock
> frequency is, doesn't ask me what my monitor horizontal freq is, vert
> freq
> and a dozen other technical details that I couldn't ultimately care
> less
> about. I just want
Net Llama wrote:
> Windoze will let you completely fubar the video settings to something
> above what the monitor will handle. Good luck getting that fixed
> without reinstalling the OS, when you have no video, no telnet, no ssh.
>
You boot into safe mode and run 640x480 and fix it. Not ALL Wi
Michael Hipp wrote:
>
> FWIW, as a fifteen-year customer of MS and mostly satisfied one. I have
> decided to boycott XP - it's just intolerable. Worst UI design I've ever
> seen. And to have been marketed as the most stable OS ever, they missed that
IIRC, it's marketed as the most stable WINDO
Net Llama wrote:
> --- Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Net Llama wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Windoze will let you completely fubar the video settings to
>>>
>>something
>>
>>>above what the monitor will handle. Good luck getting that fixed
>>>without reinstalling the OS, when you have no video, no
--- Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Net Llama wrote:
>
> > Windoze will let you completely fubar the video settings to
> something
> > above what the monitor will handle. Good luck getting that fixed
> > without reinstalling the OS, when you have no video, no telnet, no
> ssh.
> >
>
>
- Original Message -
From: "Net Llama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Windoze will let you completely fubar the video settings to something
> above what the monitor will handle. Good luck getting that fixed
> without reinstalling the OS, when you have no video, no telnet, no ssh.
All you gotta d
--- Michael Hipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Net Llama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Windoze will let you completely fubar the video settings to
> something
> > above what the monitor will handle. Good luck getting that fixed
> > without reinstalling the OS, w
On 21 Jan 2002, at 8:32, Michael Hipp boldly uttered:
> Two problems:
>
> 1) ChipID doesn't apply to Rage 128 boards.
> From xfree.org: "ChipID can only be used with Mach32 or Mach64 adapters,
> and, thus, specifically excludes any other adapter from matching the
> ``Device'' section."
>
> 2)
Michael Hipp wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Net Llama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Windoze will let you completely fubar the video settings to something
> > above what the monitor will handle. Good luck getting that fixed
> > without reinstalling the OS, when you have no video, no
NT 4.0 lets you boot to NT or NT "VGA Mode"--or whatever other OS choices
are in boot.ini, and so did 3.51 (at least). And to really mess up video
settings, your user would have to have administrator privileges on the system.
Windows 3.1x DID have this problem--but there you could boot to DOS
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:22:25 -0500
Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Net Llama wrote:
> > --- Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>Net Llama wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Windoze will let you completely fubar the video settings to
> >>>
> >>something
> >>
> >>>above what the monitor will
I was suprised when I installed Caldera (2.4 and 3.1) on a Dell. It has
some Dell monitor. The install used the Plug 'n Pray for the monitor and
identified it correctly. From that it set up the resolution rather OK.
Each time I boot the log tells that I have a P79 (or whatever model
Dell display i
Scribbling feverishly on January 23, Tyler Regas managed to emit:
> > Oh gawd no. Kudzu is the biggest flaming POS i've come across in all of
> > Linux. I've stopped counting the number of boxes that its locked up,
> > fubarred or othewise rendered useless.
>
> Kudzu being what? Its sounds like
- Original Message -
From: "Zoran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 1:09 AM
Subject: Re: an interesting experience
> On Jan 20 Michael Hipp was heard saying:
>
> ->My point is that we need to make this stuf
Michael Hipp wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "dep" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > -- can ease of use be achieved
> > without compromising security? -- i do not know, and neither does
> > microsoft, because it's never been a concern of theirs. nor do they
> > intend for it to be, becau
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:00:17 -0500
Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Sometimes things like this get exaggerated, and since I only have second
| hand hearsay, I'd like to confirm if this is true or not.
Don't know. I saw pirate copies in Saudi Arabia that people were installing.
They came with a l
On Monday 21 January 2002 09:20 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote :
> On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:00:17 -0500
>
> Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | Sometimes things like this get exaggerated, and since I only have second
> | hand hearsay, I'd like to confirm if this is true or not.
>
> Don't know. I saw pir
Tim Wunder babbled on about:
> IIRC, it's marketed as the most stable WINDOWS O/S ever. That is not
> necessarily wrong. However, I do agree that the the UI is hideous...
sorry guys, but let's kill this thread or move it [EMAIL PROTECTED]
it was ok as long it was win merits versus linux merits,
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