first thing you should do is burn a memtest86 cd, and let it run the
extended set for 24h
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Jeff Lasman wrote:
> On Monday 16 February 2009 08:09 pm, Manny wrote:
>
>> I guess it's a mute point anyway ;-)
>
> At this point the whole system is a moot point. If I d
Have you tried just setting up the system from the Desktop cd without Raid?
any problems there?
chris...
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Jeff Lasman wrote:
> On Monday 16 February 2009 08:09 pm, Manny wrote:
>
> > I guess it's a mute point anyway ;-)
>
> At this point the whole system is a mo
On Monday 16 February 2009 08:09 pm, Manny wrote:
> I guess it's a mute point anyway ;-)
At this point the whole system is a moot point. If I didn't have over
$600 in parts in it (and by now about 30 hours) I would have thrown it
against the wall a long time ago.
Tomorrow I'm going to figure
I have just been playing the demo, so far it is cool...
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Jason Burris wrote:
> Just found out that this little game was released for Linux. Good fun
> if you like puzzle based games.
>
> http://2dboy.com/2009/02/12/world-of-goo-linux-version-is-ready/?linux=g
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Manny wrote:
> I sometimes have issues with the network manager when I'm at another
> (not my home) wireless access point. It'll keep searching and than I
> get the error message when it fails to find the AP.
>
> I fix it by telling the network manager what AP I w
What Mr Manis said.
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Peter Manis wrote:
> Alternate is desktop without the livecd/gui install and will install desktop
> packages. Alternate and server are both curses based installs.
>
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Chris Louden wrote:
>>
>> I have downloade
interesting, never had any issues installing/running ubuntu, although
I didn't try 8.10 yet. NetworkManager is a PITA often times, but the
networking control under preferences works nicely.
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Jeff Lasman wrote:
> On Monday 16 February 2009 06:08 pm, Chris Penn wrote
Anyways, if you want raid, sounds like you have no choice, but to go with raid.
That was supposed to say you have no choice but to go with the alt cd
Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. See how it works.
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Jeff Lassman wrote
> So far I've tried the dvd rom from Linux Format magazine, the live cd
> from Ubuntu, and the alternate cdrom from Ubuntu. All gave me issues.
>
I'm surprise you gave up so soon Jeff. You wouldn't have been able to give up
back in the 80's when Xenix was the only option f
Alternate is desktop without the livecd/gui install and will install desktop
packages. Alternate and server are both curses based installs.
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Chris Louden wrote:
> I have downloaded the Alternate CD, going to try it out tomorrow. One
> thing I noticed is that it
I have downloaded the Alternate CD, going to try it out tomorrow. One
thing I noticed is that it is billed as its own model.
Server/Desktop/Alternate. Granted any distro can be desktop/server. I
was just curious does any one know if the Alternate follows the
default package installation of Deskto
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Jeff Lasman wrote:
> On Monday 16 February 2009 03:18 pm, Chris Louden wrote:
>
> First of all, the icon says it's not managed. Second of all, when I open
> System/Preference/Network config the little window is empty; no network
> listed. Until now I haven't riske
On Monday 16 February 2009 06:08 pm, Chris Penn wrote:
> Forgive me if I am wrong but it
> sounds like Jeff is setting up a desktop system on a tower with a
> hard wire connection.
Correct, this is my replacement desktop machine.
I'm now about to rebuild with a different cdrom.
So far I've trie
I'd use howtoforge for howtos instead of a magazine.
Chris...
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Jeff Lasman wrote:
> On Monday 16 February 2009 03:18 pm, Chris Louden wrote:
>
> > Why can't you manage it? Don't know where to edit the info or do you
> > receive an error when you attempt to do so?
On Monday 16 February 2009 03:18 pm, Chris Louden wrote:
> Why can't you manage it? Don't know where to edit the info or do you
> receive an error when you attempt to do so? Rather then rely on some
> icon how about opening System/Preference/Network config and checking
> things out directly.
Firs
I set up Ubuntu desktop machines for nonLinux personnel and I do not have
these issues. I do not recommend Ubuntu for a lot of server applications,
at least not yet. Forgive me if I am wrong but it sounds like Jeff is
setting up a desktop system on a tower with a hard wire connection.
There is u
On Monday 16 February 2009 03:17 pm, Manny wrote:
> I sometimes have issues with the network manager when I'm at another
> (not my home) wireless access point. It'll keep searching and than I
> get the error message when it fails to find the AP.
Thanks, Manny but this is standard wireline ethern
Note that Ubuntu 8.10 does have a bug or two with the 'NetworkManager'
stuff.
On my desktop, I used NetworkManager to forcibly config my eth0
interface as a static IP, and plugged in the desired static address.
Logged out and back-in, and it reverted to DHCP.
Nothing I could do to Network Manage
Rog,
Definitely give Spinrite a shot.
I just recovered a 12x500GB software RAID 5 array after loosing 2
drives. I'm not 100% sure what happened to the 2 bad drives. I believe
that one had a physical failure and the other suffered from a URE
during the rebuild or hardware failure as well.
In any
Dido on spinrite. I use version 6.0 which is the latest. It'll even
work with some usb external drives. Depends if the os needs to mount
a usb driver or it's supported through the bios.
Don't use it if your drive is dying from physical damage, i.e. bad
servo motor or actuator. Spinrite has a t
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Jeff Lasman wrote:
> In my recent thread, ubuntu questions, I discussed the problems with
> software RAID on ubuntu.
>
> I'm still interested in using ubuntu for my office desktop system. I
> back up important data every night to a hard drive connected via usb.
>
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Jeff Lasman wrote:
> I'm getting less happy with ubuntu.
>
> First of all: When the alternate CD install finally finished the network
> wouldn't start; the little icon kept coming up in the upper right
> corner of the screen, but it wouldn't start. No route. No i
I sometimes have issues with the network manager when I'm at another
(not my home) wireless access point. It'll keep searching and than I
get the error message when it fails to find the AP.
I fix it by telling the network manager what AP I want to connect to.
# sudo iwconfig wlan0 attwifi
from
On Monday 16 February 2009 02:06 pm, Joel Witherspoon wrote:
> Jeff. What are the specs on your rig? & What ver. of Ubuntu?
Ubuntu 8.10, alternate install CD as downloaded.
Box is home built; MB is EliteGroup G31T-M.
I now know more about the lockup issue: it occurs every time I logout
and the
Jeff. What are the specs on your rig? & What ver. of Ubuntu?
I want to see if I can duplicate your issue.
On 2/16/09, Jeff Lasman wrote:
> I'm getting less happy with ubuntu.
>
> First of all: When the alternate CD install finally finished the network
> wouldn't start; the little icon kept com
I'm getting less happy with ubuntu.
First of all: When the alternate CD install finally finished the network
wouldn't start; the little icon kept coming up in the upper right
corner of the screen, but it wouldn't start. No route. No ip# in
ifconfig output. I found the network config script (
On Monday 16 February 2009 01:06 pm, Dante Lanznaster wrote:
> I don't know if this still stands true, but for a software RAID array
> you have to have a small boot partition separate, like 100M or so, to
> hold the kernel and boot files, since GRUB doesn't "understand"
> software raid. I've alway
On Monday 16 February 2009 01:08 pm, Dante Lanznaster wrote:
> as I remember, compiz doesn't come installed by default, but it's
> just a few pkgs that you need, that'll give you the 3D desktop
> effect.
Thanks, Dante; that's what I needed to know.
Jeff
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On Monday 16 February 2009 12:59 pm, David Kaiser wrote:
> I used to use Spinrite version 5 or something back in the early to
> mid 90's. It was able to recover almost every bad block (we used to
> say bad sector back then)
The most recent version is 4-1/2 years old:
http://www.grc.com/sr/spinr
On Monday 16 February 2009 12:10 pm, Dante Lanznaster wrote:
> If you wanna keep it easy, just mount the drive and rsync your data
> to it. No need to have special mount/unmount stuff, leave it on fstab
> to automount and set up a cron job to back up stuff with rsync.
Then I'd have to keep at lea
as I remember, compiz doesn't come installed by default, but it's just
a few pkgs that you need, that'll give you the 3D desktop effect.
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Jeff Lasman wrote:
> On Monday 16 February 2009 12:48 am, Dante Lanznaster wrote:
>
>> About testing the graphics, run glxgears
I don't know if this still stands true, but for a software RAID array
you have to have a small boot partition separate, like 100M or so, to
hold the kernel and boot files, since GRUB doesn't "understand"
software raid. I've always had separate boot partitions, never had a
problem with it. Makes it
On Monday 16 February 2009 12:48 am, Dante Lanznaster wrote:
> About testing the graphics, run glxgears in a console and wait until
> it outputs the fps value on the console, it should be at least
> 450-500fps.
The onboard graphics doesn't run even half of that. I suppose I can
install the boxe
On Monday 16 February 2009 10:43 am, Chris Louden wrote:
> The text based alternate installer can be downloaded from the
> complete list of download locations below. This installation CD is
> suited for computers unable to run the graphical desktop based
> installation, either because their comput
Hi All,
Stumbled across this while working today and thought others might find
it useful.
As we all know UMASK controls the permissions that get applied to
files and folders when they are created. On the Mac/Darwin side this
is also true but Apple has sorta extended it to deal with people
launchi
On Monday 16 February 2009 12:06 pm, Dante Lanznaster wrote:
> Are you using onboard raid? If so, you're in for some fun, as it's
> never recognized properly at installation, it needs the device-mapper
> stuff. Do a search for fakeraid.
I thought I made it clear I was using software RAID; sorry i
I used to use Spinrite version 5 or something back in the early to mid
90's. It was able to recover almost every bad block (we used to say bad
sector back then)
I can't use Spinrite anymore because it won't work with IDE or SATA
drives, it only worked with drives where it could directly access th
ditto on spinrite. Never tried it myself, but the reviews are great! :P
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Todd Lyons wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Roger E. Rustad, Jr
> wrote:
>> I'm helping a coworker recover some stuff of a failing drive. It's quite
>> important to him, as his litt
If you wanna keep it easy, just mount the drive and rsync your data to
it. No need to have special mount/unmount stuff, leave it on fstab to
automount and set up a cron job to back up stuff with rsync.
Personally I'd set up a software RAID setup, which is really easy and safe.
On Mon, Feb 16, 200
Are you using onboard raid? If so, you're in for some fun, as it's
never recognized properly at installation, it needs the device-mapper
stuff. Do a search for fakeraid.
If you're using real hardware raid, I suppose it wouldn't be /dev/md0,
haven't got much experience with this, others might pitch
Just found out that this little game was released for Linux. Good fun
if you like puzzle based games.
http://2dboy.com/2009/02/12/world-of-goo-linux-version-is-ready/?linux=goo
Also I found that I had to tweak the config file to work with my
desktop (dual 1900x1200) or else the screen would be o
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Roger E. Rustad, Jr
wrote:
> I'm helping a coworker recover some stuff of a failing drive. It's quite
> important to him, as his little girl is very sick and he has some
> pictures of her on it.
Nobody's mentioned it, but Spinrite has always been a good problem
so
> Never heard of it. When?
> I was using Xenix in the early to mid 80s, if I recall correctly.
Well, it was before my time so i dont know the timeframe offhand.
I heard of PC-IX only because MINIX was developed in PC-IX
(ast, _Operating_Systems_, appendix D, 1987) - The AST book does not
say whi
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Chris Louden wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Dante Lanznaster wrote:
>> if you want to do software RAID, then the alternate CD is what you're
>> looking for. For hardware RAID, the regular does just fine.
>
> I've have not tried the alternate CD before
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Dante Lanznaster wrote:
> if you want to do software RAID, then the alternate CD is what you're
> looking for. For hardware RAID, the regular does just fine.
I've have not tried the alternate CD before. Whats it all about?
>
> About testing the graphics, run gl
In my recent thread, ubuntu questions, I discussed the problems with
software RAID on ubuntu.
I'm still interested in using ubuntu for my office desktop system. I
back up important data every night to a hard drive connected via usb.
It's got it's own separate power supply; I mount it, back up
On Monday 16 February 2009 09:28 am, Randall Whitman wrote:
> > I just installed ubuntu 8.10 on a new desktop system.
>
> Surprised you used 8.10 rather than 8.04-LTS.
> At the office we are sticking with LTS for the foreseeable future,
> tho at home we have 8.10; both work fine.
On desktops I se
On Monday 16 February 2009 12:48 am, Dante Lanznaster wrote:
> if you want to do software RAID, then the alternate CD is what you're
> looking for. For hardware RAID, the regular does just fine.
Nope to software RAID... it appears to be a known bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debi
I have used this several times in the past to pull pictures off of a
bad drive. Most of the time I'll just plug it into my Linux desktop,
but the CD is good if you are remote and don't have a second computer
to work with.
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download
:wq!
jason
On Mon, Feb
On Monday 16 February 2009 09:32 am, Randall Whitman wrote:
> PC/IX was not available, or not suitable?
Never heard of it. When?
I was using Xenix in the early to mid 80s, if I recall correctly.
Jeff
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These messages refer to bad blocks on the HDD. Data on these blocks is
gone. What I would try is to freeze the drive, mount the partition,
try to quickly copy whatever data is possible (don't copy system and
programs, these can be reinstalled) and then trash the drive.
If you feel adventurous, you
"input/output error" could be exactly that, errors trying to read a dying HD.
Are there filesystem/disk driver parameters you can tune, to favor retries
over diagnostics?
I do also want to mention that i got the same "input/output error", most
uninformatively so, when the Puppy Linux live CD I wa
> Back when we used Xenix there were literally NO other choices on the
> Intel platform. And certainly no other multi-user choices besides
> MP/M.
PC/IX was not available, or not suitable?
/Randall
> Anyone in the list has experience with Xenix? Or some sort of SCO
> Unix? I have 3 machines to do recovery on, and situation is rough,
> could use some help...
FWIW, I did C programming on SCO UnixWare for about 3 years,
after which I ported the whole product suite to Linux.
No, I wasnt the sys
> I just installed ubuntu 8.10 on a new desktop system.
Surprised you used 8.10 rather than 8.04-LTS.
At the office we are sticking with LTS for the foreseeable future,
tho at home we have 8.10; both work fine.
> Is there a gnome-based alternative to KAlarm?
> Or should I try running KAlarm under
I'm helping a coworker recover some stuff of a failing drive. It's quite
important to him, as his little girl is very sick and he has some
pictures of her on it.
I'm hoping to get a clean bit-by-bit copy of the drive while I still
have options. The hard drive is obviously failing (chunks are b
if you want to do software RAID, then the alternate CD is what you're
looking for. For hardware RAID, the regular does just fine.
About testing the graphics, run glxgears in a console and wait until
it outputs the fps value on the console, it should be at least
450-500fps.
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