Diane,
At 06:11 PM 7/16/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Jay Fenello wrote:
>
>> >From where I sit, your refusal to hold elections
>> has nothing to do with funding, and everything
>> to do with priorities!
>>
>
>There is no refusal to hold elections, Jay.
Then where are the elections? All I hear is plen
Roberto and all,
That is why I sent it Wed. Afternoon, Roberto. Can you read headers
by any chance?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Jeff Williams wrote:
>
> > This might be of some interest... FYI
> >
> If you want the follow-up, yes, the PSO MoU was signed yesterday night (Oslo
> time).
>
> R
Roberto and all,
Frankly i had to laugh out loud at your post here Roberto. It is so
funny to see you here publicly attempt to "Educate" or even suggest
to Jay how and in what manner he should behave with respect to
Bias of a the media of a media source, when you yourself cannot
even fine the
Diane and all,
Diane Cabell wrote:
> Richard J. Sexton wrote:
>
> > How do you deal with a clueless membership? Say they
> > voted unanimously to make anybody with a nameserver
> > pay $1 everytime sombody used it for a lookup and
> > if you didn't pay this you couldn't run a nameserver
> > peri
Joe and all,
Nonesense Joe! If you need funds to hold an election they are readily
available. If you don't know how to go about legitimately acquiring those
funds, than give me a call... But to use this as a "Cathc-22" excuse
is frankly, pathetic! Sheeesh!
Joe Sims wrote:
>
>
> Eric, I
Diane and all,
The available secure voting applications are available now and are in use,
So I don't see any need to re-invent the wheel here. The cost is
minimal to purchase one and customize for ICANN's use.
Again if ICANN needs some assistance is acquiring such web or
e-mail based secure
Kent and all,
A test like this would be too scary to let "Out of the Bag" so to speak,
so I am not surprised one little bit that such a test was not released for
public consumption, especially given the time in which it was done...
Kent Crispin wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 14, 1999 at 04:58:31PM -070
Andy and all,
Andy Gardner wrote:
> >Gene and all,
> >
> > I don't know either for sure but it looks like a guy who calls himself
> >"Joe Blow". ROFLMAO! Some name huh? Love his domain name
> >though! My guess is though, that the real "Joe Blow" is Onno Hovers
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED] What ev
At 05:01 PM 7/16/99 -0700, you wrote:
>My general take on what I have seen of the entire DNS controversy is that
>it is similar in nature to past struggles over "shared scarce resources"
>such as the ones Tony cited. Certainly, from what I have read of the
>establishment of the FCC and the 1934 R
At 10:55 AM 7/16/99 -0400, you wrote:
>
>How can one complain of bias and then report the name of this hearing
>without the faintest glimmer of irony?
>
When it is so blatantly obvious.
++
Gene Marsh
president, anycastNET Incorporated
330-699-8106
My general take on what I have seen of the entire DNS controversy is that
it is similar in nature to past struggles over "shared scarce resources"
such as the ones Tony cited. Certainly, from what I have read of the
establishment of the FCC and the 1934 Radio Act, there are striking
similarities.
Eric Weisberg wrote:
> The cost quoted by the American Arbitration Association for mailed ballot
> elections was not very high, especially if the membership is within the range
> most of us project. Diane spoke of an electronic ballot, which obviously
> involves less expense. The administrative
On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Diane Cabell wrote:
> analysis by the MAC raised many difficult issues. Perhaps an online election
> may be beyond the budget. If anyone knows a crack programmer who will code for
> water and gruel, please volunteer now!
Diane,
As I stated previously if ICANN were truly
In response to a thread which began a couple days ago, I
suggested that
>If anyone is interested in getting over such arrogance, one
> worthwhile way to do it is to consider how 'they' might *get a
notion
> of what a root server system is.
Bill Lovell now declares that
> this imbro
>An explosion and fire at a Bell Canada CO in downtown Toronto cut off my net
>access for the whole day today, which was mildly traumatic ;-}.
This is alsi why the IFWP list was uncommunacative for a few hours
today.
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Jay Fenello wrote:
> >From where I sit, your refusal to hold elections
> has nothing to do with funding, and everything
> to do with priorities!
>
There is no refusal to hold elections, Jay. Mr. Sims was responding to Eric
Weisberg's suggestion that ICANN hire outside professionals to run the
e
"A.M. Rutkowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>This and similar controversies have actually been
>going on fairly intensively over the past 40 years.
>It's the Internet and domain names right now, 15 years
>ago it was OSI names and addresses, 20 years ago
>satellite allocations, 40 years ago short
Bill Lovell wrote:
> At 01:50 PM 7/13/99 -0400, you wrote:
>
> >Yes, the WTO is based in Geneva, but surely it's beyond reproach?
>
> This was weeks ago, and I had a computer virus in the meantime, so
> I certainly stand ready to be corrected, but was it not the WTO that had
> a good chunk of its
At 12:40 PM 7/16/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Patrick Greenwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> If ICANN were a community-based organization as was envisioned, instead of
>> the monstrosity it has become, it would be reasonable to ask the community
>> for assistance in gather resources to hold elections.
Jay,
This and similar controversies have actually been
going on fairly intensively over the past 40 years.
It's the Internet and domain names right now, 15 years
ago it was OSI names and addresses, 20 years ago
satellite allocations, 40 years ago shortwave
radio frequencies.
You inevitably end u
At 09:38 AM 7/16/99 -0400, Jay Fenello wrote:
>-- The law firm of Jones Day, your employer,
>has billed ICANN for $585,000, substantially more
>than required to simply incorporating a non-profit
>entity, and/or to hold elections.
ORSC spent $175 to incorporate, including bylaws that if ICANN
At 01:36 PM 7/16/99 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>BTW, thank you for reminding once again that the number of people involved
>in the debate so far has been so small.
Yes, I'd be surprised if it was more than 2 or 3 thousand; there were
1500 responses to the USG inquiries, and maybe another 200
At 06:03 AM 7/16/99 -0400, Joe Sims wrote:
>significant funds soon are not good. There is a serious catch-22 here
>that for some ICANN critics is probably not coincidental: complain about
>the lack of an elected Board, and simultaneously make it impossible to
>generate the funds to elect a tru
At 10:51 AM 7/16/99 +0200, you wrote:
>I have seen press coverage that is biased and ultra-biased, in one direction
>and the other,
Can you give some examples ?
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Here's another example of media bias,
and why this debate is not being covered
in a neutral fashion among several large
news outlets:
[cloaked due to the private nature of this email]
>At 09:52 AM 7/16/99 , a reporter with another large, biased,
>nationionally-distributed news outlet wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > When you consider that one of the primary purposes
> > of this *interim* board was to establish an electorate,
> > and hold formal elections to elect the first official
> > *initial* board, your comments simply don't add up.
>
> The Commerce De
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Patrick Greenwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If ICANN were a community-based organization as was envisioned, instead of
> the monstrosity it has become, it would be reasonable to ask the community
> for assistance in gather resources to hold elections.
But when the community does cough up mone
> When you consider that one of the primary purposes
> of this *interim* board was to establish an electorate,
> and hold formal elections to elect the first official
> *initial* board, your comments simply don't add up.
The Commerce Department would seem to disagree with you. In its reply to
At 01:52 PM 7/16/99 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> When you consider that one of the primary purposes
>> of this *interim* board was to establish an electorate,
>> and hold formal elections to elect the first official
>> *initial* board, your comments simply don't add up.
>
>The Commerce Departm
>"Freedom of the press is limited to those who own one."
> -- A.J. Liebling
That is exactly what many of us are trying to preserve. Freedom for
everyone who owns a press (including electronic presses.)
>For those who do not know, there will be a Congressional
>Hearing by the Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations
>on "Domain Name System Privatization: Is ICANN Out of Control?"
>It is scheduled for Thursday, July 22, 1999 at 10:00 a.m.
How can one complain of bias and then report the na
On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Joe Sims wrote:
> Eric, I have been following this very useful exchange between you and
> Diane, and I hope you continue; it is helpful. One point I should make: a
> very significant hurdle to any election process is the lack of money to run
> it.
Joe,
If ICANN were a co
Joe Sims wrote:
> ...One point I should make: a
> very significant hurdle to any election process is the lack of money to run
> it. It might well be a sensible strategy, especially at this stage of its
> development, for ICANN to have some professional election help, but it has
> no money to
At 06:03 AM 7/16/99 , Joe Sims wrote:
>Eric, I have been following this very useful exchange between you and
>Diane, and I hope you continue; it is helpful. One point I should make: a
>very significant hurdle to any election process is the lack of money to run
>it. It might well be a sensible s
Jay Fenello wrote:
> More biased coverage from News.com:
>
What exactly do you reproach to the coverage?
If it is the part where he pretends that the NSI critics and the Registrars
have not been invited to testify, do you have different information? It will
be good for everybody if you could re
Tony Rutkowski wrote:
> It is plainly preposterous to suggest that you need
> big bucks to hold an election. This isn't a presidential
> election campaign or the United Nations. All the parties
> that ever filed in the DOC proceedings, attended a meeting,
> or even zinged off a one liner on an
At 06:03 AM 7/16/99 , you wrote:
>Diane, and I hope you continue; it is helpful. One point I should make: a
>very significant hurdle to any election process is the lack of money to run
>it. It might well be a sensible strategy, especially at this stage of its
>development, for ICANN to have som
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Ronda Hauben wrote:
> I just saw a notice at the House Commerce Committee web site
> of a Congressional Hearing by the Subcommittee on Oversight
> and Investigations on "Domain Name System Privatization: Is
> ICANN Out of Control?"
>
> It is listed as being scheduled for Thursday, July 22, 1999
Jay,
I tend not to overestimate the press coverage of these issues, that are
already complicated for those who have been in the debate since long.
I have seen press coverage that is biased and ultra-biased, in one direction
and the other, and I am not shocked. Of course, I understand that you ma
"Freedom of the press is limited to those who own one."
-- A.J. Liebling
Over the last several weeks, I have been
under a coordinated attack from multiple
reporters from multiple news organizations.
According to these reporters, I have been
secretly consulting for Network Solutions
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