Tony Rutkowski pointed out:
Hi Roberto,
The way I understand it, there is no obligation from ICANN to consult the
governments (in particular those who choose not to participate in the GAC).
au contraire (sorry I don't know the Italian).
The Board will notify the chairman of the Govern
Roberto and all,
Ben's response to Joop not withstanding It is plainly evident, as has
been the norm that seamless provisioning for remote participation
is not very high on The ICANN (initial?) Interim Boards list of priorities,
much along the same lines as Esther Dysons errant comment
regardin
Mark,
You wrote:
>
> It is unclear to me whether you are speaking in an advisory
> capacity for the
> governments or in a private capacity interpreting the ICANN
> bylaws.
AFAIK, no government in the world is so clueless to accept advice from
myself, not to even speak about paying for it ;>).
All,
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Ben,
Thank you for the comprehensive report of the difficulties you have.
I believe that you are doing a wonderful job, and I have the feeling of not
being alone in thinking this way.
I also believe that you overreacted to Joop's message, but I can try to
explain how this could have happened (of
Hi Chris,
Thank you for being one of the first reporters
to *publicly* respond to my continuing claims of
media bias.
In probably 10 postings now, I've pointed out
how the press has been suppressing the real story
about ICANN. About how ICANN is really about the
establishment of Internet Go
Follow the Money: an Inside View of ICANN Fundraising
The COOK Report has received the full text of nine email messages
detailing ICANN's efforts in June to stave off bankruptcy. It has
obtained independent verification that they are messages that were
given by ICANN to the House Commerce Co
Ben and the Berkman Center,
I didn't see your posting yet, but from another posting I see that you have
been sensitive to be associated with the shenanigans of others, simply
because of a net-mishap.
Let me state here for the record that nothing of the kind should be
inferred. On the contrary, as
Bill Gates has called most of the MicroSoft team involved with HotMail and
his passport/microsoft/portal concept. Lot's of screaming as gates
point's out their collective balls are in a noose "not my words - just
translation" and that windows share of the OS market may drop again this
year to li
Jeffm and all,
Depends on what you mean by "Start Taxing" here.
See: RFC 1918 and RFC2050. If you are talking about
the USE of IP numbers, than I hope not, or at least if
so it is likely to meet with the same opposition that
the DN tax idea that went down quickly. If you are
suggestion that o
Ben and all,
I had to comment on this.. (See more below)
Ben Edelman wrote:
> Joop wrote:
>
> (presumably referring to a portion of the 8/26 Board Meeting?)
> >
> > We were not the only ones to miss it. The audio/video server happened to
> be
> > down too, for 20 minutes.
> > So the only re
Roberto and all,
You seem to be still missing the point here Roberto. None of the
GAC representatives were the choices of their respective countries.
This includes Christopher Wilkinson. The EU is highly upset at present
that they were not consulted prior to Christopher Wilkinson being "Appoi
All,
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Roberto and all,
one has to remember that the members of the GAC are "Appointed" by the
ICANN (Initial?) Interim board (See Article VII and Article III of the ICANN
bylaws for further reference). Hence insuring that the stakeholders
have a "CHOICE" in whom represents their interests as a GAC m
Roberto,
It is unclear to me whether you are speaking in an advisory capacity for the
governments or in a private capacity interpreting the ICANN bylaws. BTW, how
are Vienna and the reactors?
MM
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> Mark,
>
> You wrote:
> >
> > One of the questions to which I didn't get
Joop,
A private response here. Have you let Becky Burr know about any of this
or these events yet? You should in official letter to her and a separate one to
the Secretary of Commerce as well. I would also suggest that you have
Dennis possibly with a drafted official IDNO letter send it to t
Since the address used for this mailing could only have
been culled from my email messages - generally only to
this list - I'm curious if anyone else on the list
has been Esther spammed.
It's somehow "poetic" that in 8 months she has never
once chosen answer a single query or engage in a
substant
Hi Roberto,
The way I understand it, there is no
obligation from ICANN to consult the
governments (in particular those who choose not to participate in the
GAC).
au contraire (sorry I don't know the Italian).
The Board will notify the chairman of the Governmental
Advisory Committee of any p
Mark,
You wrote:
>
> One of the questions to which I didn't get an answer in Chile was what
> constitutes a quorum of interest sufficient for ICANN to accept GAC's
> advice. If
> GAC is the voice of thirty or forty governments, it is presumably not
> the voice
> of the other 160 plus. Is ICANN s
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> That said, I am curious. I have no idea how/why/where/when you managed
>to get
> the impression from Joop's comments that there was any conspiracy or in fact
> any intended slur. It may have been the only inference you were able to
>draw,
> but it is probably the only
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> That said, I am curious. I have no idea how/why/where/when you managed to get
> the impression from Joop's comments that there was any conspiracy or in fact
> any intended slur. It may have been the only inference you were able to draw,
> but it is probably the only i
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> That said, I am curious. I have no idea how/why/where/when you managed to get
> the impression from Joop's comments that there was any conspiracy or in fact
> any intended slur. It may have been the only inference you were able to draw,
> but it is probably the only i
Mark, you missed my point. ALL GAC
advice is advisory; none is mandatory.
The ICANN Board is free to give it whatever weight it (the Board) feels
it
deserves. I note again that any national government is free to
participate
in the GAC; if they choose not to, that is their choice, not ICANN's or
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One of the questions to which I didn't get an answer in Chile was what
constitutes a quorum of interest sufficient for ICANN to accept GAC's
advice. If GAC is the voice of thirty or
Ben, FWIW I think you have been doing a great job against all odds. Also thanks
for the insights into the technical environment you were dealing with.
That said, I am curious. I have no idea how/why/where/when you managed to get
the impression from Joop's comments that there was any conspiracy
Joe,
I think the majority of participants on this list would have no respect
for Mr Rutkowski were he not
known to be acting intelligently as devil's advocate.
Whether ICANN is or will be formally or informally required to follow
GAC advice, I assume is a matter
for private consultation between
One of the questions to which I didn't get an answer in Chile was what
constitutes a quorum of interest sufficient for ICANN to accept GAC's
advice. If
GAC is the voice of thirty or forty governments, it is presumably not
the voice
of the other 160 plus. Is ICANN supposed to consult the others
pri
FWIW some of us think Berkman did a great job.
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Joop wrote:
(presumably referring to a portion of the 8/26 Board Meeting?)
>
> We were not the only ones to miss it. The audio/video server happened to
be
> down too, for 20 minutes.
> So the only record we have are the scribe notes at
> http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/icann/santiago/archive/
>
> Unfortu
Richard,
You wrote:
>
> So what do you know about your countries involvment inthe
> Gac, Roberto ?
>
Thanks for asking with the plural, because I tend to lose track on which is
really *my* country ;>).
To tell you the truth, I feel that at this point in time the EU is
representing more than o
>I guess each person on this list may watch closely his/her country's rep on
>the GAC, and put pressure on his/her Government to appoint the best people,
>but you cannot expect ICANN to do this research for each of the 200+
>Governemnts. In fact, if I was a Government ;>), I would be upset if ICAN
Roberto,
different choice, picking a different
"initial list", but I don't think it
is really ICANN's duty to select in each Government the person that
is
supposed to represent best the "real" Government Internet
interests: it is
The process didn't require a lot of intellectual prowness.
The rea
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