On Mon, 02 Apr 2001, you wrote:
> > if its a box-over-in-the corner that one day will be your DNS server
> > somewhere but right now its just a ip address on a network you're trying
> > to test before deploying .. it did get a name eventually.
>
> Hmmm.. I don't quite know how you can *test* it,
>
> *burble*! It is reasonable to have this property, yes, but then what do
> you put in the host part of the SOA record for the zones served by this.
> The entry there should be the master server for the zone. The other case
> that you might want this is for a resolver, however again, the small
On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Philip Newton wrote:
> Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
> > On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> > > agreed it is a dumb thing, especially if your nameserver
> > > doesnt have a name to lookup
> > Erm!!?!? How exactly were you planning to point anything at it? an NS
> >
Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> > agreed it is a dumb thing, especially if your nameserver
> > doesnt have a name to lookup
>
> Erm!!?!? How exactly were you planning to point anything at it? an NS
> RR requires an authoritative name as it's RHS.
No
On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Apr 2001, you wrote:
> > On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> > > agreed it is a dumb thing, especially if your nameserver doesnt have a
> > > name to lookup
> > Erm!!?!? How exactly were you planning to point anything at it? an NS
>
On Sun, 01 Apr 2001, you wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> > agreed it is a dumb thing, especially if your nameserver doesnt have a
> > name to lookup
>
> Erm!!?!? How exactly were you planning to point anything at it? an NS
> RR requires an authoritative name as it's RHS.
On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> agreed it is a dumb thing, especially if your nameserver doesnt have a
> name to lookup
Erm!!?!? How exactly were you planning to point anything at it? an NS
RR requires an authoritative name as it's RHS.
MBM
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 01:41:14PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
> > host(1)'s error messages are often misleading - it can give the message
> > "try again" to nxdomain responses, for example...
> Given how fast .NSI namespace is being eaten up, th
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, you wrote:
> > > Yes, it's useful. I like nslookup. (Plus I feel that dig is pretty verbose,
> > > but maybe there's a flag to control that that I've been too lazy to look
> > > for.)
> >
> > I guess it depends on application. If you need to know the nuts and bolts
> > of a
On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 01:41:14PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
> host(1)'s error messages are often misleading - it can give the message
> "try again" to nxdomain responses, for example...
Given how fast .NSI namespace is being eaten up, that doesn't seem like
such an unrealistic message :
On Thu Mar 29 15:37:29 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > * - BTW, does that mean that all calls within NI are now charged at local
> > rate? Can belfast.pm enlighten me on this?
>
> Do you really think we'd get that lucky? No we get hit with the charge for a
> national call even though it's all
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Steve Keay wrote:
> nslookup does a rather dumb thing: it tries to lookup the reverse DNS
> for the nameserver it's about to use. Apart from being a waste of
> time, failure to find the name means it will refuse to query that
> nameserver.
Why doesn't your nameserver *have*
> > Yes, it's useful. I like nslookup. (Plus I feel that dig is pretty verbose,
> > but maybe there's a flag to control that that I've been too lazy to look
> > for.)
>
> I guess it depends on application. If you need to know the nuts and bolts
> of a query, use dig. If you only need a quick re
> nslookup deprecated? Rats.
Good riddence.
> Yes, it's useful. I like nslookup. (Plus I feel that dig is pretty verbose,
> but maybe there's a flag to control that that I've been too lazy to look
> for.)
I guess it depends on application. If you need to know the nuts and bolts
of a query, use
Robin Szemeti wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, you wrote:
Hey, check your attributions -- "you" is not very useful when you're sending
stuff to a mailing list :)
> > or nslookup will have to be smart enough[1] to translate
> > "randomkanji" to "bq--buffy" before asking the resolver
> > library.
>
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> Do you really think we'd get that lucky? No we get hit with the charge for a
> national call even though it's all in the one area code. They just divide it
> with codes for each area, so Belfast in 02890 whilst Lisburn is 02892.
>
I didn't call
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 03:19:46PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
> > Wouldn't that be rather wasteful? After all, population is distributed
> > unevenly. You have some cities with lots of inhabitants, and then you have
> > rural areas with a much smaller population density. Does that mean that in
>
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, you wrote:
> > Yes. Either you have to translate "randomkanji" to "bq--buffy"[2] in your
> > head or with an appropriate tool, or nslookup will have to be smart
> > enough[1] to translate "randomkanji" to "bq--buffy" before asking th
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, you wrote:
> Yes. Either you have to translate "randomkanji" to "bq--buffy"[2] in your
> head or with an appropriate tool, or nslookup will have to be smart
> enough[1] to translate "randomkanji" to "bq--buffy" before asking the
> resolver library.
err [1] unlikely to happen
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 12:26:46PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
> Chris Benson wrote:
> > () -
>
> Wouldn't that be rather wasteful? After all, population is distributed
What are you wasting? Numbers? What is the cost of extra numbers?
Some people in small places have to type
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 02:46:48PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 10:23:12AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
> > Roger Burton West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> You show me a DNS server which supports kanji :-)
>
> This is a big bugbear of mine. Yes, you can register d
Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Philip Newton wrote:
> > Unless you translate them to an acceptable set, which is, I
> > believe, where domain i18n is heading. The question is in
> > which algorithm to choose for translation.
>
> Right. Which is evil and horrid.
>
> nslookup
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 12:26:46PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
> Chris Benson wrote:
> > The people in uk.telecom were suggesting a one-off-this-will-hurt-but-
> > it'll-only-happen-once change where the entire country moved to
> > () -
> > format
>
> Wouldn't that be rather was
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Philip Newton wrote:
> Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
> > the host (according to RFC1123) must match
> > /^([a-z0-9]+)((.[a-z0-9-]+)*(.[a-z0-9]+))?$/i
> > which doesn't really give you support for hostnames in those many
> > characters.
> Unless you translate them to an acceptabl
Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
> the host (according to RFC1123) must match
>
> /^([a-z0-9]+)((.[a-z0-9-]+)*(.[a-z0-9]+))?$/i
>
> which doesn't really give you support for hostnames in those many
> characters.
Unless you translate them to an acceptable set, which is, I believe, where
domain i18n i
David Cantrell wrote:
> You show me a DNS server which supports kanji :-)
Well, if RACE is the encoding that finally gets chosen, all of them do -- it
maps all of Unicode to [a-z2-7-]+ or something like that.
> This is a big bugbear of mine. Yes, you can register domains
> in all these weird s
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, David Cantrell wrote:
> You show me a DNS server which supports kanji :-)
Although the format for domain names is 8-bit, and they do support 8-bit,
the host (according to RFC1123) must match
/^([a-z0-9]+)((.[a-z0-9-]+)*(.[a-z0-9]+))?$/i
which doesn't really give you support
Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
> Given we can now have kanji URLs, [...]
Can we now? I thought there were several different proposed schemes, but
none has been officially accepted as standard.
Cheers,
Philip
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All opinions are my own, not my employer's.
If you're not
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 10:23:12AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
> Roger Burton West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 12:04:05PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> >
> > >Anyway, the whole 'numbers' thing is long over due to be replaced by
> > >those new fangled 'letters'. W
Roger Burton West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 12:04:05PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
>
> >Anyway, the whole 'numbers' thing is long over due to be replaced by
> >those new fangled 'letters'. Works for DNS...
>
> Oh @deity, let's not do that. Consider the mess the WIPO
Chris Devers wrote:
> Work in some kind of good
> pervasive naming scheme and the underlying numbers can get
> arbitrarily complex without bothering anyone.
Maybe. I'm told that was Tim Berners-Lee's plan for hypertext -- that
hyperlinks would be clickable or something like that and that nobod
Chris Benson wrote:
> The people in uk.telecom were suggesting a one-off-this-will-hurt-but-
> it'll-only-happen-once change where the entire country moved to
> () -
> format
Wouldn't that be rather wasteful? After all, population is distributed
unevenly. You have some cities
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 12:04:05PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
>Anyway, the whole 'numbers' thing is long over due to be replaced by
>those new fangled 'letters'. Works for DNS...
Oh @deity, let's not do that. Consider the mess the WIPO's causing
now, and then think about competition for "good"
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 03:29:21PM +0100, Paul Mison wrote:
>
> The US approach (longer local numbers- everywhere is 7 digits now,
> prepended by a three digit 'city' code) combined with the fact there
s/city/area/;
NYC, for instance, has at least two area codes at this point. I
notice, in fa
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 12:04:05PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 07:28:31PM +0100, Chris Benson wrote:
> > it'll-only-happen-once change where the entire country moved to
> > () -
>
> Twelve and eight digit phone numbers? So phalanxes of psychologists
> n
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 12:04:05PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 07:28:31PM +0100, Chris Benson wrote:
> > it'll-only-happen-once change where the entire country moved to
> > () -
>
> Twelve and eight digit phone numbers? So phalanxes of psychologists
>
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:16:01PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 07:28:31PM +0100, Chris Benson wrote:
> > The people in uk.telecom were suggesting a one-off-this-will-hurt-but-
> > it'll-only-happen-once change where the entire country moved to
> > () -
At 12:04 PM 28.3.2001 -0800, you wrote:
>Anyway, the whole 'numbers' thing is long over due to be replaced by
>those new fangled 'letters'. Works for DNS...
Yeah, exactly. We're already partly there, sort of. I don't know the phone numbers of
any of the people I call at all regularly (i.e. more
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 07:28:31PM +0100, Chris Benson wrote:
> it'll-only-happen-once change where the entire country moved to
> () -
Twelve and eight digit phone numbers? So phalanxes of psychologists
noting that the human brain has the magic number seven genetically
imprint
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 07:28:31PM +0100, Chris Benson wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 03:29:21PM +0100, Paul Mison wrote:
> >
> > There must have been *some* way Oftel could have made something similar
> > work here.
>
> The people in uk.telecom were suggesting a one-off-this-will-hurt-but-
>
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:04:34AM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 02:09:50PM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote:
> > the fuckwits at Oftel lumbered us with 01[78]1 in the first place is
> > something of a mystery to me...
>
> Was it Oftel that made that choice or BT? I was assumed
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 03:29:21PM +0100, Paul Mison wrote:
>
> There must have been *some* way Oftel could have made something similar
> work here.
The people in uk.telecom were suggesting a one-off-this-will-hurt-but-
it'll-only-happen-once change where the entire country moved to
(XX
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 06:35:56PM -0500, Chris Devers wrote:
> I thought it had a purpose as a sort of control character for the phone companies,
>with any number beginning with a 0 or 1 having special meaning. I guess that special
>meaning evaporates under 10 digit schemes...
I think you're r
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 02:09:50PM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote:
> the fuckwits at Oftel lumbered us with 01[78]1 in the first place is
> something of a mystery to me...
Was it Oftel that made that choice or BT? I was assumed it was the
lumbering ineptitude of The World's Most Evil Phone Company (to
On 28/03/2001 at 13:23 +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
>At Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:09:37 +0100, Simon Wistow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>[London phone codes]
>
>> It was origially 01 ne c'est pas? Then it changed to 071 (Inner
>> London) and 081 (Greater London) then it changed to 0171 and 0181 and
>> the
Piers Cawley wrote:
> Note that, in US phone numbers, the leading 1 is in fact the country
> code.
I think that in many cases, this may be coincidence -- that US-centric
Americans put a long-distance 1 in front of their number, which just happens
to be their country code.
I'll admit that in som
Simon Wistow wrote:
> It was origially 01 ne c'est pas?
(ITYM "n'est-ce pas?") Yes, it was. I remember that time.
Cheers,
Philip
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All opinions are my own, not my employer's.
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
>
> That's right. And all of those changes have happened in the last 10
> (12? I'm guessing here) years.
>
> And each time we've been told that the changes will cope with the
> demand for phone numbers for many years. Which has been a lie.
>
It's fun (well, that's maybe too strong a word) to look
Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Chris Devers wrote:
> > In any event, the leading 1 is never part of the phone
> > number, but you always have to dial it whenever making a
> > "long distance" call.
>
> Well, I would have thought that's just splitting hairs -- is the '0' part of
> t
At Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:09:37 +0100, Simon Wistow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[London phone codes]
> It was origially 01 ne c'est pas? Then it changed to 071 (Inner
> London) and 081 (Greater London) then it changed to 0171 and 0181 and
> then finally to 020 7xxx and 020 8xxx - what people don't
Philip Newton wrote:
> Oh, all right. Thanks to Neil and Simon for the correction. I suppose this
> misapprehension comes partly because it *used* to be two dialing codes (071,
> 081 -- or was it 0171, 0181? Or both, one after the other? I forget).
It was origially 01 ne c'est pas? Then it chan
Neil Ford wrote:
> I suppose I'd be splitting hairs if I pointed out that the
> dialing code for London is 020, meaning numbers should be
> shown as 020 .
Oh, all right. Thanks to Neil and Simon for the correction. I suppose this
misapprehension comes partly because it *used* to be two
Title: RE: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.
Neil wrote:
>I suppose I'd be splitting hairs if I pointed out that the dialing code for
>London is 020, meaning numbers should be shown as 020 .
>
>Of course BT mis-informing people in their own
Philip Newton wrote:
> Well, I would have thought that's just splitting hairs -- is the '0' part of
> the number 0207 xxx is the number 207 xxx "but you have to dial a
> 0 before that"? Comes out to the same thing. Except for...
The '0' part is 020 *NOT* 0207. The seven is part of th
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:43:57PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
> Chris Devers wrote:
> > In any event, the leading 1 is never part of the phone
> > number, but you always have to dial it whenever making a
> > "long distance" call.
>
> Well, I would have thought that's just splitting hairs -- is
Chris Devers wrote:
> In any event, the leading 1 is never part of the phone
> number, but you always have to dial it whenever making a
> "long distance" call.
Well, I would have thought that's just splitting hairs -- is the '0' part of
the number 0207 xxx is the number 207 xxx "but y
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 03:30:54PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 01:44:49PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
> > Still not enough. It'll work for the Americans (yet again...)[1] but if you
> > have a phone number whose country codes identifies it as being in country X,
> > and
At 03:28 PM 27.3.2001 -0800, you wrote:
>With 10 digit dialling, it's 10 digit dialling, no extra '1' required.
>E.g. if I was in Houston (which has three area codes and is 10-digit) I
>would dial 713 555 1212 regardless of whether I was already in 713.
Ahh. This explains why a cell phone works w
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 01:44:49PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
> Still not enough. It'll work for the Americans (yet again...)[1] but if you
> have a phone number whose country codes identifies it as being in country X,
> and you are in country X on a business trip and want to call that person,
>
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 11:58:17AM -0500, Chris Devers wrote:
> In any event, the leading 1 is never part of the phone number, but you always have
>to dial it whenever making a "long distance" call. This used to mean anything beyond
>a certain distance from your local calling area &/or anything
At 01:44 PM 27.3.2001 +0200, you wrote:
>I think America requires you to add "1" at the beginning; though it's not
>part of the area/STD code as the 0 is in England and Germany, I think
>most places require it to show you're dialling a long-distance call.
Correct. Standard format is an implicit
Paul Makepeace wrote:
> The world would be a much better place if everyone habitually quoted
> their phone number +access_code area_code local_number. You don't
> realise how important this is 'til you have to repeatedly find people
> in various desolate stations dotted all over the world with sca
On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 12:00:24PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
> LASTNAME, [FIRSTNAME|FIRST INITIAL]
This really doesn't address (ho ho) unfortunate people whose first
name isn't used except when their passport/national ID kit is being
bandied about. Nor people lumbered with four names. :-/
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> More trivia: NT stands (the above not withstanding) for New Technology
> which makes reading 2k's splash "Built on NT Technology" sound a bit
> like recording on DAT tapes.
And of course, is a trademark of Northern Telecom. As mentioned on the NT
CDs.
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I vaguely recall it standing for something like "Heuristic Algorithmic
> Logic," but that doesn't really set it apart from anything.
how does that explain SAL9000?
MBM
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 19:07:16 +, Dave Cross wrote:
> At 17:48 23/03/2001, you wrote:
> >On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, you wrote:
> >
> > > Well, I can make a guess at what the first number represents. Those
> > expansion plans really are short-term.
> >
> > > Peter Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
* AEF ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Leon Brocard wrote:
>
> > Really? How many flies do you have?
>
> One on each pair of trousers. Except track-suit bottoms.
>
At first i thought you mean't zippers at the bottom of tracy suit bottoms,
this would of been truly evil! The
At 21:39 24/03/2001, Jon Eyre wrote:
>On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, Tony Bowden wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 03:24:48PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> > > More trivia: NT stands (the above not withstanding) for New Technology
> > > which makes reading 2k's splash "Built on NT Technology" sound a b
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 08:36:42AM +, Piers Cawley wrote:
>
> I used to work with an Icelandic chap who told me that the Rekjavik
> phonebook is ordered by first name because they still use proper
> patronyms.
The standard example is that you're more likely to remember a casual
aquaintance
On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, Tony Bowden wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 03:24:48PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> > More trivia: NT stands (the above not withstanding) for New Technology
> > which makes reading 2k's splash "Built on NT Technology" sound a bit
> > like recording on DAT tapes.
>
> Or e
On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 03:24:48PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> More trivia: NT stands (the above not withstanding) for New Technology
> which makes reading 2k's splash "Built on NT Technology" sound a bit
> like recording on DAT tapes.
Or entering your PIN number?
Tony
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On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 07:07:16PM +, Dave Cross wrote:
> Well, Arthur C Clarke claims it's a pure coincidence, but if you take the
> letters after each of H, A and L - you get IBM.
If you take the letters VMS and shift 'em one, you get WNT, a popular
Redmond OS one of whose lead architects
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Leon Brocard wrote:
> Really? How many flies do you have?
One on each pair of trousers. Except track-suit bottoms.
Tony
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, you wrote:
> At 17:48 23/03/2001, you wrote:
> >On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, you wrote:
> >
> > > Well, I can make a guess at what the first number represents. Those
> > expansion plans really are short-term.
> >
> > > Peter Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > "Put down those Win
At 17:48 23/03/2001, you wrote:
>On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, you wrote:
>
> > Well, I can make a guess at what the first number represents. Those
> expansion plans really are short-term.
>
> > Peter Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > "Put down those Windows disks Dave Dave? DAVE!!"
> > --
Tony wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
> > Love and fruit flies,
> I only really want /one/ of those things...
Ditto. And I have the wrong one...
Love and grapefruit,
L.
AEF sent the following bits through the ether:
> On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
>
> > Love and fruit flies,
>
> I only really want /one/ of those things...
Really? How many flies do you have?
Leon
--
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yapc::Europe...
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
> Love and fruit flies,
I only really want /one/ of those things...
Tony
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> and for a bonus half point (cos its easy) .. why was HAL called HAL?
I'm not even going to bother answering that ;-)
Love and fruit flies,
L.
On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 05:48:42PM +, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> and for a bonus half point (cos its easy) .. why was HAL called HAL?
It's IBM with each letter shifted once to the left.
--
Niklas Nordebo -><- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"The day is seven hours and fifteen minutes old, and already it's
c
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, you wrote:
> Well, I can make a guess at what the first number represents. Those expansion plans
>really are short-term.
> Peter Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "Put down those Windows disks Dave Dave? DAVE!!"
> -- HAL 9000
and for a bonus half point (cos i
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:46:07 +, Marty Pauley wrote:
> The
> interplanitary URL is sufficient for our short-term expansion plans.
> Unfortunatly the actual specification of the scheme is a millitary
> secret, but I can target your house with the following:
> ipbm://3/401392692/759227092/5
We
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 06:07:52PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote:
> If he [Sarathy] had a child, it would be called Sarathy Foo.
Bit of a weird name for a kid, but I wouldn't put it past him.
--
fga is frequently given answers... the best are "Date::Calc", "use a hash",
and "yes, it's in CPAN" or
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 12:05:11PM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
> I'm guessing that the author of Date::MMDDYY went for dashes rather
> than slashes because the string was going to be used in a filename.
I never had a problem with it using dashes, just with everything else.
> I emailed the author t
At 17:51 22/03/2001 +0100, Philip Newton wrote:
>Simon Wilcox wrote:
> > Or even better YY-MM-DD which avoids cross-pond confusion.
>
>Oh yeah? Which year, month, and day are represented by the combination
>02-03-04? Depends on the side of the pond, and on which pond (MM-DD-YY in
>US, DD-MM-YY in
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 05:51:40PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote:
> Simon Wilcox wrote:
> > Or even better YY-MM-DD which avoids cross-pond confusion.
>
> Oh yeah? Which year, month, and day are represented by the combination
> 02-03-04? Depends on the side of the pond, and on which pond (MM-DD-YY i
Redvers Davies wrote:
> and if you don't have a last name???
>
> I have three friends who are surnameless... their credit
> cards have a "." as a surname because the bank computers
> couldn't handle a lack of surname.
An example from the Perl world: Gurusamy Sarathy. His name is Sarathy, and
Gu
At Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:56:16 +0100, Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Robin Houston wrote:
> > use POSIX 'strftime';
> > print "The date is ", strftime("%m-%d-%y", localtime()), "\n";
>
> Or, for those who want to type even less, strftime accepts a '%D'
> format specifier on at lea
David H. Adler wrote:
> And some of us have middle names/initials that they consider
> significant...
And then there are those who consider the case of their names (and the
punctuation used) significant, and post style guides on their web site.
Cheers,
Philip
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Robin Houston wrote:
> use POSIX 'strftime';
> print "The date is ", strftime("%m-%d-%y", localtime()), "\n";
Or, for those who want to type even less, strftime accepts a '%D' format
specifier on at least some platforms, which does %m/%d/%y for you (which is
probably used more widely than %m-
Simon Wilcox wrote:
> Or even better YY-MM-DD which avoids cross-pond confusion.
Oh yeah? Which year, month, and day are represented by the combination
02-03-04? Depends on the side of the pond, and on which pond (MM-DD-YY in
US, DD-MM-YY in UK, possibly YY-MM-DD in Japan).
Cheers,
Philip
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Ph
Andrew Bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In Iceland they append 'son' for sons and 'dottir' for daughters -
> hence Magnus Magnusson is the son of Magnus, whilst Sally Magnusson
> would, in Iceland at least, be Sally Magnusdottir.
I used to work with an Icelandic chap who told me that the Rekj
On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 04:10:37PM +, Redvers Davies wrote:
> > LASTNAME, [FIRSTNAME|FIRST INITIAL]
>
> and if you don't have a last name???
>
> I have three friends who are surnameless... their credit cards have a "." as
> a surname because the bank computers couldn't handle a lack of surna
On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 02:49:17PM -, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
>
> What are we saying here, Michael Schwern is that Alien Drag Queen ?
You know... that would explain a lot.. :-)
dha
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... we didn't know what the hell we were d
[Continuing off-topic - not a surprise on London.pm, I'm sure (I thought Mr.
Cantrell's [ot] the other day denoted 'on-topic' :--)]
> From: Marty Pauley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> In some countries the 'family name' is actually defined by your
> job, location, or other mutable property. It used
On 2001, Mar, 21, Wed Pauley, Marley wrote:
> That would work if 'significant' was well defined in relation to names,
> but it isn't. It works with dates because 'significant' has a well
> defined meaning in relation to numerical quantities.
I wonder what Larry thinks about this.
Later.
Mark.
> LASTNAME, [FIRSTNAME|FIRST INITIAL]
and if you don't have a last name???
I have three friends who are surnameless... their credit cards have a "." as
a surname because the bank computers couldn't handle a lack of surname.
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, you wrote:
> Human postmen can do amazing
> things, like deliver letters addresses to "John Smith, the house with the
> blue door, near the flower shop in the main street in Newtownards".
blimey .. he really _IS_ a martian .. must be ... down here on Earth the
postmen can't
On Wed Mar 21 12:00:24 2001, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
> 1. Please can we stop this silly 'firstname lastname' format. The most
> significant string (family name) should come first, with a standard
> delimiter (comma) before the first name (which should come last). This is
> what bibliographies and
Quoting Jonathan Peterson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Please use:
> ISO planet code, ISO country code, POSTCODE, Building Number[, apartment
> number][, business name]
>
Please move to one of the former USSR countries, they write their
addresses there like that.
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/postal
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