However, once again, Mace offers this advice in acknowledging the antecedent:
strike . . . your strings with your nails, as some do, who maintain it the
best way to play. Mace's implication is that nail play was also commonplace
and that tastes on this topic varied.
Eugene
-Original
This thread reminds me of what my music theory professor
once told me about composition: If it sounds good, it's good.
Given that no two lutes and no two lutenists are the same, it
is entirely possible that what works for one player on their
instrument may not work for a
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:43:07 +0200, mathias.roe...@t-online.de
What I meant to say is that many of today's lutenists in fact were
guitarists formerly. Having been so, most of is try to avoid memories of
our dark past. I count classical RH posture one of those reminders.
Well, I must repeat my
Dear Mathias and all
On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 23:00:13 +0200, mathias.roe...@t-online.de
The reason why many players of 10c lutes and baroque lutes do not use
this
technique is, or so I guess, that it resembles classical guitar technique
much too closely (except for the position of the RH very
Hi Steve,
perhaps my inventory, The Lute Book of Jollas could be useful? There
are about 85 baroque lute pieces - mainly in facsimile form - to me the
original writing gives some extra enjoyment.
There is also some music specifically to 10-course baroque lute there; see
Bouvier and Pierre
Anymore
Steve,
first of all I'd think about how to convert my 10c into an 11c lute, as there
are not exactly many pieces in D minor tuning for 10 courses.
Mathias
-Original-Nachricht-
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace-- Not Mace Anymore
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 04:13:11 +0200
From: Steve Ramey
Thanks Chris and Tom...(and everyone else who chimed in...!)
Very good information!
Best regards,
Brent
- Original Message
From: Christopher Stetson christophertstet...@gmail.com
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Tue, July 19, 2011 12:27:40 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
Agreed, Thomas
May I say that I've learned a lot from Thomas Mace's book as regards French
and English music of nthe 1620ies through 1670ies. And I particularly enjoyed
his music which I perceived as a blend of French texture and English folk tunes.
His tuning allows you to play all of that sophisticated
: mathias.roe...@t-online.de mathias.roe...@t-online.de
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Tue, July 19, 2011 3:13:35 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
May I say that I've learned a lot from Thomas Mace's book as regards French and
English music of nthe 1620ies through 1670ies. And I
All,
OK, so with all this talk of baroque lute being somewhat easy to play,
I need to do something useful with my 10C baroque lute, once I get a
proper set of strings for D minor tuning. Does anyone have any
recommendations for easy pieces with which to begin-- something easily
I was just restating what Mace said. Personally, I find the Baroque
lute much harder than Renaissance lute, but I attribute that to my
having played Ren lute much longer.
YMMV as they say.
On Jul 18, 2011, at 12:26 AM, brentlynk wrote:
Part of me wants to believe you when
@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sun, Jul 17, 2011 1:38 pm
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
I think with the Ren lute it is easier to play a reasonable beginner
piece more quickly than with the baroque lute. Once the right hand
thumb gets trained on the baroque lute, then I think it is the easier
Correia
bruno.l...@gmail.com
Sent: Sat, July 16, 2011 3:13:55 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
The text, and what it tells us of some contemporary practice, is
historically extremely significant and much more important than the
rather disappointing music.
MH
--- On Fri, 15/7/11
price spiffys84...@yahoo.com
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 7:19 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
You couldn't get better encouragement than from Mace. He tells how
'easy' the Baroque lute is compared to those of the past.
Good luck.
Mace is absolutely
don't mind a bit...
Warm regards,
Brent
- Original Message
From: sterling price spiffys84...@yahoo.com
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sun, July 17, 2011 1:19:58 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
You couldn't get better encouragement than from Mace. He tells how
Haegemann b...@symbol4.de
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; sterling price spiffys84...@yahoo.com
Sent: Sun, July 17, 2011 4:33:06 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
If memory serves he also explains that you should disassemble your lute just
for
fun, to see
how easy that is if the lute is well built. Very good
no, baroque lute requires a lot less physical labor: fewer notes, more space
between them.
RT
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From: brentlynk brentl...@bellsouth.net
To: sterling price spiffys84...@yahoo.com; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 11:26 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
; brentlynk
brentl...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Sun, July 17, 2011 11:30:52 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
no, baroque lute requires a lot less physical labor: fewer notes, more space
between them.
RT
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From: brentlynk brentl...@bellsouth.net
To: sterling price spiffys84
On Jul 17, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote:
no, baroque lute requires a lot less physical labor: fewer notes, more space
between them.
Roman will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it's still the case that he's
never played renaissance lute.
To get on or off this list see list
I had an 10course, briefly in 1988, so I have some idea.
The opinion is sufficiently widespread, too.
RT
From: howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com
On Jul 17, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote:
no, baroque lute requires a lot less physical labor: fewer notes, more
space between them.
P.S.
And I do own an 8course now!
RT
I had an 10course, briefly in 1988, so I have some idea.
The opinion is sufficiently widespread, too.
RT
From: howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com
On Jul 17, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote:
no, baroque lute requires a lot less physical labor:
it!)
- Original Message
From: Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net
To: howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com; Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sun, July 17, 2011 12:14:32 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
P.S.
And I do own an 8course now!
RT
I had an 10course, briefly in 1988, so I have
brentl...@bellsouth.net
To: sterling price spiffys84...@yahoo.com; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sun, July 17, 2011 9:26:47 AM
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Mace
Hi, Sterling and Ed,
Part of me wants to believe you when you say baroque lute is easier, and I do
recall having read that...the chords do
On Jul 17, 2011, at 2:24 PM, sterling price wrote:
Just because the baroque lute has more
strings doesn't automaticly make it harder to play. If that were true the
piano
would be the most difficult of all.
If you try playing the piano using nothing but your right thumb on the bottom
44
are, I think it's great and I don't mind a bit...
Warm regards,
Brent
- Original Message
From: sterling price [2]spiffys84...@yahoo.com
To: [3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sun, July 17, 2011 1:19:58 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
- Original Message -
From: Daniel Shoskes kidneykut...@gmail.com
To: brentlynk brentl...@bellsouth.net
Cc: sterling price spiffys84...@yahoo.com; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 5:37 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
I think with the Ren lute it is easier to play
@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sun, July 17, 2011 5:37:35 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
I think with the Ren lute it is easier to play a reasonable beginner
piece more quickly than with the baroque lute. Once the right hand
thumb gets trained on the baroque lute, then I think it is the easier
instrument
it!
Warm regards,
Brent
- Original Message
From: Roman Turovsky r.turov...@gmail.com
To: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sun, July 17, 2011 5:53:04 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
There is sometning in the acoustics of baroque lute that make thin
(i.e. easier) textures sound good/interesting
--- On Sun, 7/17/11, Roman Turovsky r.turov...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Roman Turovsky r.turov...@gmail.com
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
To: sterling price spiffys84...@yahoo.com, lute@cs.dartmouth.edu,
brentlynk brentl...@bellsouth.net
Date: Sunday, July 17, 2011, 11:30 AM
no, baroque lute
;
brentlynk brentl...@bellsouth.net; Roman Turovsky
r.turov...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Mace
Ed, Sterling, Roman,
Y'all are totally nuts. Hitting the right strings is difficult, but only a
bare beginning. The right hand must negotiate so many
place to be asking such a question
because you all rock!
Warm regards,
Brent
- Original Message
From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk
To: List LUTELIST lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Bruno Correia bruno.l...@gmail.com
Sent: Sat, July 16, 2011 3:13:55 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
You couldn't get better encouragement than from Mace. He tells how
'easy' the Baroque lute is compared to those of the past.
Good luck.
On Jul 17, 2011, at 2:25 AM, brentlynk wrote:
I am just about to get started on the baroque lute and any informed
guidance
will be
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mace
You couldn't get better encouragement than from Mace. He tells how
'easy' the Baroque lute is compared to those of the past.
Good luck.
Mace is absolutely right about this. Much easier
-Sterling Price
On Jul 17, 2011, at 2:25 AM, brentlynk wrote
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