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Alexander
- Original Message - From: David Tayler vidan...@sbcglobal.net
To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 10:55 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: was trench fill now exact replica
What I'm saying is that it is possible to build an exact replica
because
, that would
be great. And I'll keep my eyes peeled, whatever that means historically.
Alexander
- Original Message -
From: David Tayler vidan...@sbcglobal.net
To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 9:37 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: was trench fill now
Subject: [LUTE] Re: was trench fill now exact replica
I'm not talking about the copies we know about, I'm talking about the
copies we don't know about. There's a difference.
The ones we don't know about--and they are everywhere--are the good ones.
The idea that the guilds were strictly enforced
: Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net
To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Alexander Batov
alexander.ba...@vihuelademano.com
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 2:06 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: was trench fill now exact replica
As I recall - Edlinger routinely manufactured conversions
:43 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: was trench fill now exact replica
You mean (or whoever, from where you quoted from) that Edlinger's
manufactured conversions are somehow different from genuine earlier
Tiffenbrucker instruments? Or was that just a theory that he was involved
in a business
Message - From: Alexander Batov
alexander.ba...@vihuelademano.com
To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 9:43 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: was trench fill now exact replica
You mean (or whoever, from where you quoted from) that Edlinger's
manufactured
Well, you see, there is only one example of surviving lute of this kind
so it would be safer to put things in singular.
However, even this 'theory' still remains one big guess. For example,
the body could have been rebuild from the original one by Tieffenbrucker
(say, because it was too large
I'm finding this increasingly difficult to follow.
On Feb 7, 2009, at 3:33 PM, David Tayler wrote:
But my idea is much simpler.
Say you have a bunch of lutes in a museum.
Some of them are fakes. But because they are the good fakes, not the
ones that say Kmart on them or are made with Ace
What I'm saying is that it is possible to build an exact replica
because it has already been done on a large scale for books,
painting, scores, sculpture and musical instruments.
Hey, the Capirola Lutebook could be a forgery. It is a good
candidate. Some of the forgers were true geniuses.
I'm
: Friday, February 06, 2009 10:55 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: was trench fill now exact replica
What I'm saying is that it is possible to build an exact replica
because it has already been done on a large scale for , sculpture and
musical instruments.
Hey, the Capirola Lutebook could be a forgery
David
I very much doubt whether one could now make an exact copy of
a lute that could be confused with the original.
Even a modern lute maker cannot make two exactly identical lutes.
They may be able to make two fairly similar ones, and they will be
original lutes, by that lute maker.
I'm talking about the fakes that no one knows are fakes--the thirty
percent that we know must be fakes, but we don't know which ones they are.
The ones you are speaking of were the former exact replicas, not the
present ones.
dt
At 03:03 PM 2/4/2009, you wrote:
No, it hasn't! The fakes you are
On Feb 5, 2009, at 2:24 AM, David Tayler wrote:
I'm talking about the fakes that no one knows are fakes--the thirty
percent that we know must be fakes, but we don't know which ones
they are.
If no one knows they're fakes, how do we know they must be fakes?
Here's Mark Twain writing about
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 4:20 PM, howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com wrote:
Here's Mark Twain writing about Old St. Paul's in London:
Thank you, I love Mark Twain. He can always be relied upon to put
one's feet firmly on the ground gain.
David - also admired the subtle change of subject
On Feb 5, 2009, at 2:28 PM, David Tayler wrote:
That is hilarious.
Yes, and the rest of the piece is even funnier, but I hope you notice
the similarity between your:
the thirty
percent that we know must be fakes, but we don't know which ones
they are.
and Mark Twain's:
One of the
No, it hasn't! The fakes you are talking about (well, assuming I
understand you correctly, such as all those 'Franciolini's and the like)
are blooming obvious fakes and have nothing to do with 'exact replicas'.
Although, curiously enough, they were considered as such and / or
genuine originals
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