Also the LSA will be publishing an interview with Crawford in our
Quarterly, as soon as Ed Durbrow finishes it. Ed, did you discuss plectrum
technique in the interview?
We did a bit. I can tell you he was using a nylon
G string from a guitar throughout the Medieval
seminar in Vancouver 2004. I
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From: Sean Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mar 30, 2005 5:46 PM
To: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: Re: Montagna's lutes
Marion,
Often a lute duo would consist of a tenorista playing the tenor perhaps
with a plectrum (or fingers) or playing the tenor
Sean:
About the lutes depicted in
http://www.xs4all.nl/~amarin/Page1-Pages/Image198.html
I know for a fact that Ed Greenhood has been making a lute of almost this
exact same body design. It occurs also in a painting by Bartolomeo Veneto (on
cover of Diana Poulton's Collected Works of
Am 29 Mar 2005 um 22:53 hat Sean Smith geschrieben:
Maybe the higher math of just where to place those frets (and how many)
never seemed to impress them. Number of strings and fingers are always
right but frets... dang!
Interesting though that the right lute has a slanted first fret.
Stephan,
you are reading too much into it. The lute stage-right has frets fanning
out, but I'm afraid it wouldn't be temperamentally justified.
I wouldn't trust Montagna's lute design too much, as he was too fine a
designer, and knew very well that beauty is in deviation from the ideal.
RT
Stephan wrote:
Interesting though that the right lute has a slanted first fret.
Maybe the lutenist is playing meantones.
Craig
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Am 30 Mar 2005 um 8:24 hat Roman Turovsky geschrieben:
Stephan,
you are reading too much into it. The lute stage-right has frets fanning
out, but I'm afraid it wouldn't be temperamentally justified.
I wouldn't trust Montagna's lute design too much, as he was too fine a
designer, and knew
dominate the painting. So you can't
really take the proportions of a lute seen at an angle in one of his
paintings as being correct.
Tim
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Am 30 Mar 2005
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From: James A Stimson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mar 29, 2005 6:43 PM
To: Sean Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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And another thing: How come none of these artists get the fret proportions
right, even though
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Mantegna's use of perspective is always a bit shaky and often a bit
overdone for the sake of theater. One of his paintings shows a dead
Christ lying with feet towards the viewer. The perspective
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Marion, I do believe Crawford Yound used a plectrum on the upper parts.
ed
At 06:19 PM 3/29/2005 -0800, Dr. Marion Ceruti wrote:
Dear Sean,
Thank you for posting these pictures. The same picture is on the cover of
Karl-Ernst Schroder
it is.
Thank you,
Marion
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From: Sean Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mar 29, 2005 8:32 PM
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Did anyone see one of their concerts performing this duets?
Or maybe we could
Or maybe the fret is loose, he doesn't havet time to tie a new one
and he plans on using just two or three courses. A quick and
dirty fix.
Marion
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Marion, I do believe Crawford Yound used a plectrum on the upper
parts.
ed
At 06:19 PM 3/29/2005 -0800, Dr. Marion Ceruti wrote:
Dear Sean,
Thank you for posting these pictures. The same picture is on the
cover of
Karl-Ernst Schroder
@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: Re: Montagna's lutes
Marion, I do believe Crawford Yound used a plectrum on the upper
parts.
ed
At 06:19 PM 3/29/2005 -0800, Dr. Marion Ceruti wrote:
Dear Sean,
Thank you for posting these pictures. The same picture is on the
cover of
Karl-Ernst Schroder
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Dear Marion et al,
I do not know Crawford Young, but I am aware that he does indeed use
plectrum quite a bit. I do not know
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Marion, I do believe Crawford Yound used a plectrum on the upper parts.
ed
At 06:19 PM 3/29/2005 -0800, Dr. Marion Ceruti wrote:
Dear Sean,
Thank you
After reading the emails this morning I listened to my copy of Crawford's
CD Intabulations: Lute Music 1440-1500 (Lantefana 1995 Sonnenweg 4/1
D-79276 Reute Germany). There is a nice booklet with the CD that talks a
bit about the repertoire and mentions things including that the lute is in
a
Having lived in the 6-course world for a while now I'm very interested
in the left lute in this painting by Montagna:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~amarin/Page1-Pages/Image198.html
http://www.xs4all.nl/~amarin/Page1-Pages/Image199.html
It appears M. tried to be very realistic in the proportions, colors
is any
indication of what the concert depicted in the picture was supposed have
on the program, I doubt that a plectrum was used.
Best regards,
Marion
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And another thing: How come none of these artists get the fret proportions
right, even though they seem to get everything else right?
By the way, the most accurate rendering of fret spacing I've ever seen is
in a print by M.C. Escher, not exactly a contemporary of the lutenists, but
very
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Having lived in the 6-course world for a while now I'm very interested
in the left lute in this painting by Montagna:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~amarin/Page1-Pages/Image198
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Subject: Montagna's lutes
Having lived in the 6-course world for a while now I'm very interested
in the left lute in this painting by Montagna:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~amarin/Page1-Pages/Image198.html
http://www.xs4all.nl/~amarin/Page1-Pages/Image199.html
It appears M. tried to be very
Maybe the higher math of just where to place those frets (and how many)
never seemed to impress them. Number of strings and fingers are always
right but frets... dang!
Maybe it's a left-brain, right-brain thing.
s
On Mar 29, 2005, at 6:43 PM, James A Stimson wrote:
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