[LUTE] Re: Tablature letters on lines - was Re: e vs c

2020-08-07 Thread Sean Smith
me printers also employed a type face with the lines incorporated. The point is that writing tablature ms on lines was a common general practice earlier in the sixteenth century and then, of course, became general after the opening decades of

[LUTE] Re: Tablature letters on lines - was Re: e vs c

2020-08-07 Thread MJ Hodgson
Movable type was indeed a factor - though some printers also employed a type face with the lines incorporated. The point is that writing tablature ms on lines was a common general practice earlier in the sixteenth century and then, of course, became general after the opening

[LUTE] Re: Tablature letters on lines - was Re: e vs c

2020-08-04 Thread Tristan von Neumann
On 04.08.20 09:52, Martyn Hodgson wrote: Dear Martin, I agree that the supposed low case 'r' is merely an earlier way of writing 'c'. However I'm not one with you on writing tablature letters in the spaces rather than on the lines. Writing on the lines

[LUTE] Tablature letters on lines - was Re: e vs c

2020-08-04 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Martin, I agree that the supposed low case 'r' is merely an earlier way of writing 'c'. However I'm not one with you on writing tablature letters in the spaces rather than on the lines. Writing on the lines is generally the earlier form and, indeed,

[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale

2020-03-31 Thread Luke Emmet
Hi Craig Another option for lute tabulature fonts are those created by Steve Horn, primarily for users of Sibelius for typesetting tabulature, but they can be used in other contexts as well, so they might meet your needs: https://www.scoringnotes.com/tutorials/leroy-early-music-fonts-for-s

[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale

2020-03-29 Thread tribioli
tto: [LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale The fronimo fonts are just regular windows fonts. They are available in the free demo version of fronimo. But I would check with [1]Francesco Tribioli to see if there are copyright issues in using these fonts in finale.

[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale

2020-03-29 Thread Frank A. Gerbode, M.D.
The fronimo fonts are just regular windows fonts. They are available in the free demo version of fronimo. But I would check with [1]Francesco Tribioli to see if there are copyright issues in using these fonts in finale. --Sarge On 3/29/2020 06:09, Mac User wrote: Fronimo's fonts

[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale

2020-03-29 Thread David Smith
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale from what I know there is no distinct font format for Windows. The fonts are for download in the file section of the Fronimo group, you can even you them in your text processor if you wish. As explained elsewhere also by me

[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale

2020-03-29 Thread Jurgen Frenz
from what I know there is no distinct font format for Windows. The fonts are for download in the file section of the Fronimo group, you can even you them in your text processor if you wish. As explained elsewhere also by me the use of Fronimo on a Mac is without big problems. There are a few key

[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale

2020-03-29 Thread Mac User
Miles These are good options! I will have to figure out how to make Finale use "r" instead of "c" for all 2nd fret notes. I don't readily know if that's possible, but I will explore that option this week. Also: how do most players feel about using mensural notation for the rhyth

[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale

2020-03-29 Thread Mac User
Fronimo’s fonts do look great, but . . . 1. Wouldn’t I have to purchase Fronimo to obtain the fonts? Then I would have a program I can’t install or use on my Mac. 2. It is my understanding that Fronimo’s fonts are formatted for Windows and don’t work on the Mac anyway. Is this correct? Craig >

[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale

2020-03-28 Thread Fabio Rizza
Just use Fronimo's fonts on Finale. Regards Fabio Il 25/03/2020 02:31, Mac User ha scritto: Hi all! I’ve been using Finale as my primary music notation software for many years. Recently, I’ve begun arranging Renaissance and early Baroque music for a mixed lute trio (Tenor in G, Alto in A, Sop

[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale

2020-03-25 Thread Mac User
ere's the relevant online help URL for the Staff/Part Properties >> dialog: https://musescore.org/en/handbook/staff-part-properties >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: guy_and_liz Smith >> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:41 AM >> To: Tristan

[LUTE] Lute Tablature on Musescore

2020-03-25 Thread Markus Lutz
music" between different lutes from 6 to 13-courses. But it is necessary to change the Staff type to 6-course french (or italian) tablature manually. This you can also be done later by staff properties - "Advanced Style Properties", where you can change the style of flags and

[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale

2020-03-25 Thread guy_and_liz Smith
Yes, that's how I am using it so it's definitely possible. That said It's been several months since I last used MuseScore for tablature, so my memory is a bit fuzzy. IIRC you use the Staff/Properties dialog to set the number of lines to six (near the top). It then treats the se

[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale

2020-03-25 Thread Tristan von Neumann
- From: guy_and_liz Smith Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:41 AM To: Tristan von Neumann; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale Right-click the staff and select Staff/Part Properties from the context dialog. There are actually two context dialogs, so you migh

[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale

2020-03-25 Thread guy_and_liz Smith
March 25, 2020 10:41 AM To: Tristan von Neumann; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale Right-click the staff and select Staff/Part Properties from the context dialog. There are actually two context dialogs, so you might need to move the cursor and click a few t

[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale

2020-03-25 Thread guy_and_liz Smith
lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale If you have a newer version, the lute can be found in the instrument list. When you use the wizard, there should be a menu "plucked instruments" filed under "early music". Click "Lute (Tablatu

[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale

2020-03-25 Thread Tristan von Neumann
If you have a newer version, the lute can be found in the instrument list. When you use the wizard, there should be a menu "plucked instruments" filed under "early music". Click "Lute (Tablature" and you get a 6 line staff. Edit as usual, but yo

[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale

2020-03-24 Thread Tristan von Neumann
For French tabs with good optics you can also use MuseScore, which is also free. However I have not yet (on Linux) found any support of more than 6 courses. Editing is quite easy. On 25.03.20 06:21, Sean Smith wrote: I've used Parallels to open Fronimo on Mac and it works pretty well. My

[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale

2020-03-24 Thread Sean Smith
I've used Parallels to open Fronimo on Mac and it works pretty well. My only complaint is that Mac updates sometimes would create problems as would OS upgrades. Eventually it would work but rarely the same problem twice. That was 8 or 9 years ago so that may be water under the bridge.

[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale

2020-03-24 Thread David van Ooijen
I use Finale. For French tab font I use Times Roman bold italics. Size 11. I place the ciphers through the tab lines, not in between. I check the box to not let tab lines cross the tab ciphers. David On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 02:36, Mac User <[1]cwiggin...@nc.rr.com> wrote:

[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale

2020-03-24 Thread Mathias Rösel
talked about that issue several times. Mathias Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: Mac User Betreff: [LUTE] Lute Tablature using Finale Datum: 25.03.2020, 2:31 Uhr An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu @font-face { font-family: telegrotesk-medium_normal; src

[LUTE] Lute Tablature using Finale

2020-03-24 Thread Mac User
Hi all! I’ve been using Finale as my primary music notation software for many years. Recently, I’ve begun arranging Renaissance and early Baroque music for a mixed lute trio (Tenor in G, Alto in A, Soprano in D), and while Finale does a fabulous job notating, transposing, printing, etc., the one

[LUTE] Re: Lully tablature

2019-09-24 Thread Greet Schamp
Ask François Pierre Goy who works there Best wishes Greet Verzonden vanuit Mail voor Windows 10 Van: yuval.dvo...@posteo.de Verzonden: dinsdag 24 september 2019 16:54 Aan: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu Onderwerp: [LUTE] Lully tablature Hello everybody, some

[LUTE] Lully tablature

2019-09-24 Thread yuval . dvoran
urces chez Charpentier et très rarement chez ses contemporains. [..] La présence à l’Opéra est prouvée par quelques notes manuscrites ajoutées — tablature — sur la partie de basse-continue de Proserpine de Lully." The corresponding footnote says: 20. "Voir une partition Ballard conservée à P

[LUTE] Re: How to read a Baroque lute tablature

2019-07-20 Thread Alain Veylit
a specific piece that might look a bit arcane  at first. So, I set up a page to help provide that information. I chose the Tombeau de Tonty by Robert de Visee, from the Vaudry de Saizenay manuscript because it is a good example of how detailed baroque tablature had become - and it is a good

[LUTE] Re: "Spanish" tablature

2019-01-13 Thread Stephan Olbertz
[mailto:stephan.olbe...@web.de] Gesendet: Samstag, 12. Januar 2019 21:36 An: 'Stephan Olbertz' Betreff: AW: [LUTE] Re: "Spanish" tablature ..and please pardon the odd "in" in the V.-word, I guess some German sneeked in there... Stephan -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-

[LUTE] Re: "Spanish" tablature

2019-01-12 Thread Ralf Mattes
" This sketchy fragment was bound as an already unused piece of paper ..." Shouldn't this read "an already used piece of paper"? Cheers, RalfD To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: "Spanish" tablature

2019-01-12 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Dear Rainer, I'm not sure that Spanish/Valencinian/Milan tablature is to be seen as a variant of Neapolitan tab only. The Munich Denss source suggests that the writer transformed French to S/V/M tablature, judging by the mistakes and corrections he made. For what it's worth, here

[LUTE] "Spanish" tablature

2019-01-12 Thread adS
Dear lute netters, I seem to remember that recently somebody posted a list of sources with Spanish/Milan tablature including Neapolitan tablature. In an article by Michael Fink (LSAQ XLIV, No.4, 2009, pp. 29-32) there is a list of such sources: Pesaro, Biblioteca Oliveriana, MS 1144 (c

[LUTE] Re: Tablature

2018-12-20 Thread Steve Acklin
Interesting article about Alpine tonewood. https://www.thestrad.com/news/saving-stradivaris-forests-effort-to-harvest-precious-tonewoods-felled-in-storms/8460.article

[LUTE] Re: Tablature

2018-12-11 Thread G. C.
Thanks Ron, for reminding me of Coelho's site. There is SO much erudite and relevant material there! G. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Tablature

2018-12-11 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
..only after a couple of schnaps ! :-) Jean-Marie -- >..and in German tablature :) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Tablature

2018-12-11 Thread Martin Shepherd
..and in German tablature :) On 11/12/2018 20:33, Arto Wikla wrote: I thought every serious lutenist can sing the tabulature lines. sincerely Arto On 11/12/18 21:25, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote: What about those of us who compose in tabulature? I also know a few people who can sing off the

[LUTE] Re: Tablature

2018-12-11 Thread Arto Wikla
I thought every serious lutenist can sing the tabulature lines. sincerely Arto On 11/12/18 21:25, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote: What about those of us who compose in tabulature? I also know a few people who can sing off the tab. RT http://turovsky.org Feci quod potui. Faciant meliora pote

[LUTE] Re: Tablature

2018-12-11 Thread r . turovsky
What about those of us who compose in tabulature? I also know a few people who can sing off the tab. RT http://turovsky.org Feci quod potui. Faciant meliora potentes. > On Dec 11, 2018, at 2:11 PM, Ron Andrico wrote: > > Modern tablatures appear to be a substitute > for reading music in

[LUTE] Re: Tablature

2018-12-11 Thread Alain Veylit
Many thanks Goran for your kind words. Tablature is insufficiently recognized as the first form of computer code: converting music to numbers was done long before DVDs came about, after all. I am really glad though that tablature never made it to the compression stage... Although you could

[LUTE] Neapolitan tablature (Was: Da Milano)

2018-12-11 Thread G. C.
Back to the Sultzbach prints. I can't help to notice, that vol. 1 (italian tab) has only the playing instructions in italian, also printed in vol 2, while vol. 2 (neapolitan tab) has two additional dedications in latin. Both volumes have a latin end page, quoting the spanish king C

[LUTE] Re: The origins of tablature

2018-10-08 Thread Matthew Daillie
To expand on Ralf's comments and to complement Elam Rotem's video, there is an interesting section on notation and the various types of keyboard tablature in Alexander Silbiger's book 'Keyboard Music before 1700', published by Routledge (pages 2-8). Best, Matthew Le

[LUTE] Re: The origins of tablature

2018-10-08 Thread Rainer
- "music for keyboard was NOT notated in tablature." As others have already remarked, keyboard music was notated in tablature - but what easily gets neglected is the fact that 16th century keyboard music was only notated in tablature, You are joking, aren't you?

[LUTE] Re: The origins of tablature

2018-10-08 Thread Rainer
Oops, yes, I forgot Cabezon. Of course, it is remarkable that both Paumann and Cabezon were blind. So their tablature systems may have nothing to do with technology or typography but with their blindness. Does anybody personally know any blind musician? How on earth did Walcha manage to learn

[LUTE] Re: The origins of tablature

2018-10-07 Thread Sean Smith
(sorry to send it twice, Rainer, but once more for the greater list) I would suggest the article by Crawford Young in Vol. 52 #1 of the LSA Quarterly: "Tablature before 1400? Reflections on Lute-specific notation and Boethian roots" Sean [cleardot.gif] On Sun, O

[LUTE] Re: The origins of tablature

2018-10-07 Thread Ralf Mattes
A few remarks: - saying that Paumann was "credited for having invented tablature" is slightly missleading. Virdung reports that he invented german lute tablature (which is utterly unuseable for playing keyboard). German lute tablature is indeed very convenient to read/

[LUTE] Re: The origins of tablature

2018-10-07 Thread jslute
Ron, Rainer and All, Cabezon's works were notated in tablature. Like Paumann, he was blind. His works were advertised as also playable on harp or vihuela. Jim Stimson Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Ron An

[LUTE] Re: The origins of tablature

2018-10-07 Thread Matthew Daillie
This is untrue. There were other types of keyboard tablature, such as the Spanish tablature used by Cabezón in which the staff comprised as many lines as there were voices (the duos only having two lines, for example) and the notes were indicated with numbers 1 to 7, to which signs were added

[LUTE] The origins of tablature

2018-10-07 Thread Rainer
Dear lute netters, I have often asked myselfe why lute tablature was invented. The "classical" answer seems to be because lutenists started to play polyphonic music (or at least music with more than one voice). This seems to be a very poor argument since - apart from German organ

[LUTE] Re: German lute tablature

2017-11-14 Thread Mathias Rösel
F file. Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von G. C. Gesendet: Montag, 13. November 2017 17:25 An: lutelist Net Betreff: [LUTE] Re: German lute tablature I mentioned finding this on Se

[LUTE] Re: German lute tablature

2017-11-14 Thread G. C.
That's great news Magnus! Looking forward to what elucidation he can provide. BR G. On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:48 PM, Magnus Andersson <[1]magnusl...@gmail.com> wrote: GÃ ¶ran: Mathias Lundberg, music prof. in Uppsala, who wrote the inventory of th

[LUTE] Re: German lute tablature

2017-11-14 Thread Magnus Andersson
Göran: Mathias Lundberg, music prof. in Uppsala, who wrote the inventory of the whole music collection back in 2009, has promised me to look at the original next time he ´s in Stockholm. Best, Magnus On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Magnus Andersson <[1]magnusl...@gmai

[LUTE] Re: German lute tablature

2017-11-14 Thread Magnus Andersson
And the book in "Sacks collection" in Stockholm is a wonderful collection, spanning music from the whole 16th century. Really technically demanding arrangements for (as far as I can see) 6 course lute. Bavarian provenance? Compiled in second half of the 16th century, at least 4

[LUTE] Re: German lute tablature

2017-11-14 Thread G. C.
Hej Magnus! Do you by chance know also anything about this other manuscript I came across in September which is a mystery to me, but which Rudén apparently was also aware of. Any info available? [1]http://carkiv.musikverk.se/www/Tabulaturbok_Sacks_samling.pdf Best G. --

[LUTE] Re: German lute tablature

2017-11-14 Thread Magnus Andersson
The ms S 226 was apparently complete when it came to Sweden, according to Rudén. The order of the pieces are not identical. Copying must have been cheaper than buying the actual book... There are 6 extra pieces in this ms that are not included in the 1536 original edition of

[LUTE] Re: German lute tablature

2017-11-14 Thread G. C.
ailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von G. C. Gesendet: Montag, 13. November 2017 17:25 An: lutelist Net Betreff: [LUTE] Re: German lute tablature I mentioned finding this on Sept. 29. Only Gary Boye reacted. I found the following book of german tablature online in Sweden (50 Mb):

[LUTE] Re: German lute tablature

2017-11-14 Thread Mathias Rösel
, 13. November 2017 17:25 An: lutelist Net Betreff: [LUTE] Re: German lute tablature I mentioned finding this on Sept. 29. Only Gary Boye reacted. I found the following book of german tablature online in Sweden (50 Mb): [1]http://carkiv.musikverk.se/www/Tabulaturbok_Sacks_samling.pdf

[LUTE] Re: German lute tablature

2017-11-13 Thread Gary Boye
Ciao Mimmo, This is another Scandinavian source already studied by Rudén; in my list, it is: S-Sk Ms. S. 226 [1544-1560] (Sweden?) [copy of Neusidler?; RISM B/VII p. 325; see Rudén p. 42] * 6-course lute in German tablature So it was mentioned in RISM as well as

[LUTE] German lute tablature

2017-11-13 Thread Seicento/Rainer Luckhardt
Ciao Mimmo, this manuscript is a copy of Hans Newsidler's book of 1536 "Ein newgeordent künstlich Lauten Buch". Rainer -- __ SEICENTO-Notenversand Rainer Luckhardt Holbeinstrasse 12 D-79312 Emmendingen Tel. ++49/(0)7641 - 932803 Internet: www.seicentomusic.de To get on

[LUTE] Re: German lute tablature

2017-11-13 Thread G. C.
Dear Mimmo, this manuscript is described in RISM B VII on pages 325-6. BR G. On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Mimmo - Aquila Corde Armoniche <[1]mperu...@aquilacorde.com> wrote: Hello guys, I have found by chances this one: [2]https://archive.org/details/urn-nbn-s

[LUTE] Re: German lute tablature

2017-11-13 Thread G. C.
Oops! Sorry Mimmo, wrong book! Disculpe G. On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Mimmo - Aquila Corde Armoniche <[1]mperu...@aquilacorde.com> wrote: Hello guys, I have found by chances this one: [2]https://archive.org/details/urn-nbn-se-kb-digark-5441771 Is it alread

[LUTE] Re: German lute tablature

2017-11-13 Thread G. C.
I mentioned finding this on Sept. 29. Only Gary Boye reacted. I found the following book of german tablature online in Sweden (50 Mb): [1]http://carkiv.musikverk.se/www/Tabulaturbok_Sacks_samling.pdf This one was completely unknown to me. Could someone shed a light on this find

[LUTE] German lute tablature

2017-11-13 Thread Mimmo - Aquila Corde Armoniche
Hello guys, I have found by chances this one: https://archive.org/details/urn-nbn-se-kb-digark-5441771 Is it already knows? Mimmo To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Unknown lutebook in german tablature

2017-09-29 Thread G. C.
e: There is a Susanna version on 3r-3v which has been crossed out in the typewritten index. The tablature looks professional? G On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Gary Boye <[3]boy...@appstate.edu> wrote: I think this is in Rudén (p. 35). I have it on m

[LUTE] Re: Unknown lutebook in german tablature

2017-09-29 Thread Gary Boye
At first glance, it looks like a ms. copy of a printed book . . . Gary On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 8:33 AM, G. C. <[1]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: There is a Susanna version on 3r-3v which has been crossed out in the typewritten index. The tablature looks professional? G

[LUTE] Re: Unknown lutebook in german tablature

2017-09-29 Thread G. C.
There is a Susanna version on 3r-3v which has been crossed out in the typewritten index. The tablature looks professional? G On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Gary Boye <[1]boy...@appstate.edu> wrote: I think this is in Rudén (p. 35). I have it on my list ([

[LUTE] Re: Unknown lutebook in german tablature

2017-09-29 Thread Gary Boye
I think this is in Rudén (p. 35). I have it on my list ([1]http://applications.library.appstate.edu/music/lute/C16/1500.html) as: S-Skma Sackska samlingen Tabulaturbok "Tabulaturbok" [Germany] end of the 16th century 6-course lute in German tablature n

[LUTE] Unknown lutebook in german tablature

2017-09-29 Thread G. C.
I found the following book of german tablature online in Sweden (50 Mb): [1]http://carkiv.musikverk.se/www/Tabulaturbok_Sacks_samling.pdf This one was completely unknown to me. Could someone shed a light on this find? BR G -- References 1. http://carkiv.musikverk.se

[LUTE] Re: ISO Długoraj's Tablature

2017-09-27 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
> >>Tree edition have published a facsimile and a modern edition in French tab. >>Best, >>Matthew >> >> >> >>> On Sep 27, 2017, at 3:32, Lynda Kraar >>> wrote: >>> >>> Can anyone tell me where can I find a copy of

[LUTE] Re: ISO Długoraj's Tablature

2017-09-27 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
nal address keep bouncing... -- >Tree edition have published a facsimile and a modern edition in French tab. >Best, >Matthew > > > >> On Sep 27, 2017, at 3:32, Lynda Kraar >> wrote: >> >> Can anyone tell me where can I find a copy of Długoraj's

[LUTE] Re: ISO Długoraj's Tablature

2017-09-27 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Dear Lynda, Have a look at Sarge Gerbode's site. He has transcribed and put online a very large part of the manuscript in question ! Ther's a section called "Latest Postings" where you will find a lot of Dlugoraj's tablature. Best wishes, Jean-Marie --

[LUTE] Re: ISO Długoraj's Tablature

2017-09-27 Thread Matthew Daillie
Tree edition have published a facsimile and a modern edition in French tab. Best, Matthew > On Sep 27, 2017, at 3:32, Lynda Kraar > wrote: > > Can anyone tell me where can I find a copy of Długoraj's Tablature? > Print or online - just curious to see it. > >

[LUTE] Re: ISO Długoraj's Tablature

2017-09-27 Thread Albert Reyerman
The so Called Dlugoraj Lute book is located in the Leipzig Misc Library in Leipzig, Germany. It is a VERY large source in German Tablature for Renaissance Lute, 541 pages ! TREE EDITION has made a facsimile edition from this source, available as a printed, hard bound book or as a digital facimile

[LUTE] Re: ISO Długoraj's Tablature

2017-09-27 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
s.html Best, Kean-Marie Le 27 sept. 2017 à 03:32, Lynda Kraar <[3]guitargirl4scrab...@cs.dartmouth.edu> a écrit : Can anyone tell me where can I find a copy of Długoraj's Tablature? Print or online - just curious to see it. Thanks, Lynda Kraar

[LUTE] Re: ISO Długoraj's Tablature

2017-09-27 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Lynda, have a look at Satge Gerbode's page : [1]http://www.gerbode.net/new_postings.html Best, Kean-Marie Le 27 sept. 2017 à 03:32, Lynda Kraar <[2]guitargirl4scrab...@cs.dartmouth.edu> a écrit : Can anyone tell me where can I find a copy of Długoraj&

[LUTE] ISO Długoraj's Tablature

2017-09-26 Thread Lynda Kraar
Can anyone tell me where can I find a copy of Długoraj's Tablature? Print or online - just curious to see it. Thanks, Lynda Kraar -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: tablature d'angelique

2017-08-02 Thread Mathias Rösel
Sorry, list -- Alain, You may want to have a look to your junk folder, as your machine seems to classify my mails as junk. Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: tablature d'angelique

2017-05-30 Thread Mathias Rösel
Dear Alain, That looks terrific! Yes, that's it! Great! Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Alain Veylit Gesendet: Montag, 29. Mai 2017 21:44 An: Mathias Rösel; 'Lute net' Betreff: [LUTE

[LUTE] Re: tablature d'angelique

2017-05-29 Thread Alain Veylit
See http://fandango.musickshandmade.com/showcase/preview/232 for Fandango support of Angelique tablature - this is based on the Monin book (the first piece...). If someone needs the other styles of diapason notation for the Angelique, they should ask for it specifically... The Angelique

[LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

2017-05-28 Thread Mathias Rösel
thias Von: Arthur Ness [mailto:arthurjn...@verizon.net] Gesendet: Samstag, 27. Mai 2017 23:42 An: mathias.roe...@t-online.de; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: Re: [LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature Dear Mathias, Yes, as you later write, I did not mean to suggest that L

[LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

2017-05-27 Thread Arthur Ness
someplace in northern Germany a previously thought given the several northern lutenists represented. Arthur Ness arthurjn...@verizon.net -Original Message- From: Mathias Rösel To: lute Sent: Sat, May 27, 2017 3:28 pm Subject: [LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

[LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

2017-05-27 Thread Arthur Ness
3:04 pm Subject: [LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature Dear Arthur, That is interesting! Thanks for that. In 1681, father and son Gumprecht wrote a letter to the council of Stasburg, requesting that Jean Bethune, who was about to settle in Strasburg as an angélique teacher,

[LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

2017-05-27 Thread Mathias Rösel
Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Mathias Rösel Gesendet: Samstag, 27. Mai 2017 21:02 An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: [LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature Dear Arthur, That is interesting! Thanks for that. In 1681, father and son Gumprecht wrote a let

[LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

2017-05-27 Thread Mathias Rösel
heard of Bethune afterwards. That very Bethune was the teacher of Marguerite Monin (whose lute book of 1664 in preserved in Paris) and of that student who penned down the angélique book that has been reproduced and published in facsimile by Minkoff as the only angélique tablature so far (F-Pn Rés

[LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

2017-05-27 Thread Mathias Rösel
Hi Alain, Yes, there are two major manuscript sources and one print available online. The manuscript sources are: 1. The anonymous tablature for the angélique A 3.329, preserved in the Moravian museum in Brno (Smetanova 14, 602 00 Brno): http://www.manuscriptorium.com/apps/index.php?envLang

[LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

2017-05-27 Thread Alain Veylit
Thank you Mathias for this useful detail, Except for the 17th string, it should be fairly easy to implement - one last request if you can, do you happen to have a link handy to a digital facsimile of angelique tablature? If not, I'll do my own digging, but you are more knowledgeable than

[LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

2017-05-27 Thread Arthur Ness
Dear Mathias, Thank you for sending the *.PDF tablature with the midi audio. Incidentally Johann Gumprecht, d. J., (b. 1645) served in Stuttgart 1688-1715 as "Fürstliche Kammer- und Tutelar-Rat für die musikalische Erziehung der herzoglichen Kinder" [Sittard, p

[LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

2017-05-27 Thread Mathias Rösel
are retuned as from the 4th to the 15th courses according to key. The 16th string is sometimes retuned to D or Bb respectively, according to key, but more often than not stays at C. The characters for the first six courses are the same as in lute tablature. Angélique tablature has six lines

[LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

2017-05-26 Thread Mathias Rösel
Organ tablature was in use for any instrument and even for singers, as it is a pitch notation. It may be much easier to expand lute tablature to the much desired tablature for the angélique (see http://www.accordsnouveaux.ch/de/Instrumente/Angelique/Angelique.html > Notation der Bassch

[LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

2017-05-26 Thread Mathias Rösel
: [LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature Perhaps this page helps: http://musicofyesterday.com/historical-music-theory/early-history-of-tablature/ Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

2017-05-26 Thread Alain Veylit
I started implementing keyboard tablature in my software Fandango, but the need is so little and editing so complicated that I did not really complete it fully. German Keyboard tab is like German tab in that groups of notes hang from the top line, but letters indicate pitch rather than fret

[LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

2017-05-26 Thread Arto Wikla
Perhaps this page helps: http://musicofyesterday.com/historical-music-theory/early-history-of-tablature/ Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

2017-05-26 Thread Joachim Lüdtke
I should be able to make sense of it ... Best Joachim Lektorat & Korrektorat Dr. Joachim Lüdtke Blumenstraße 20 D-90762 Fürth Tel. 0911 / 976 45 20 -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] German keyboard tablature Datum: 2017-05-26T14:10:17+0200 Von: "Rainer" An: &qu

[LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

2017-05-26 Thread keith barnhart
ke to check a concordance which is in (shudder) German keyboard tablature. Can anybody read it? Rainer PS I have everything as digital facsimile To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -

[LUTE] German keyboard tablature

2017-05-26 Thread Rainer
Dear lute netters, I would like to check a concordance which is in (shudder) German keyboard tablature. Can anybody read it? Rainer PS I have everything as digital facsimile To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with ornaments

2017-03-10 Thread Rainer
It's also noted in the article that Wyssenbach uses the same notation in his 'Tabulatura uff die lutten' of 1550. Isn't that one a copy of the Italian book? Rainer To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with ornaments

2017-03-07 Thread Bernd Haegemann
On 06.03.2017 13:41, Roman Turovsky wrote: Wikipedia has strict rules against original research, and all information it permits has to externally documented with reliable scholarly sources. RT I can confirm that! I once tried to change an entry about a piece "that W.A. Mozart had composed in 17

[LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with ornaments

2017-03-06 Thread Denys Stephens
lto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Sean Smith Sent: 06 March 2017 16:41 To: lute list Subject: [LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with ornaments Dear Denys, Rainer I was thinking of the Libro Ottavo, too, but found the same pattern in Intabulatura di Lauto del Divino FdM & del e

[LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with ornaments

2017-03-06 Thread Sean Smith
dia >> >> "According to Frederick Neumann,[2] Vallet may have been among the first to >> introduce ornaments into lute tablature." >> >> Of course this is nonsense. >> >> Anyway, does anybody know of printed tablature with ornaments before 1596? &

[LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with ornaments

2017-03-06 Thread Denys Stephens
I couldn't say without looking. I'm remembering a reference by Diana Poulton to an ornament where there are two tablature letters (in brackets if I remember correctly) of which only the first is plucked. Best wishes, Denys Sent from my iPhone > On 6 Mar 2017, at 16:23,

[LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with ornaments

2017-03-06 Thread Rainer
1548. That is the earliest occurence in print of ornament signs I know of at the moment. All best, Joachim -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] Earliest printed tablature with ornaments Datum: 2017-03-06T11:50:43+0100 Von: "Rainer" An: "Lute net&quo

[LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with ornaments

2017-03-06 Thread Denys Stephens
r lute netters, > > According to Wikipedia > > "According to Frederick Neumann,[2] Vallet may have been among the first to > introduce ornaments into lute tablature." > > Of course this is nonsense. > > Anyway, does anybody know of printed tablature with ornaments b

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