Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 interface

2023-09-27 Thread Brian K. White
Oh I misunderstood that. I thought the tnc had that configurable with a jumper installed by default. -- bkw On 9/27/23 19:37, Jesse Bertier wrote: I agree that the m100 has unique circuitry contributing to the problem - perhaps only 5 volts to work with , perhaps the choice in the resistor

Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 interface

2023-09-27 Thread Jesse Bertier
I agree that the m100 has unique circuitry contributing to the problem - perhaps only 5 volts to work with , perhaps the choice in the resistor values chosen on the inputs and outputs, or perhaps when they changed to 330 ohm values in that TSB. Agreed it’s perfectly legit to loop back in

Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 interface

2023-09-27 Thread Jesse Bertier
Hi Alex,Yes, I’ve noticed the lcd dimming on the model 100 sometimes as there was higher current drain or voltage drain from the RS-232 port.I suspect hardware flow control lines is a big contributor to that power drain - anything that pushes the hardware flow control input pins high (I believe

Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 interface

2023-09-27 Thread Brian K. White
On 9/27/23 16:01, Jesse Bertier wrote: Fellow M100 Enthusiasts: I kept at it, trying all the various suggestions from the group.  I finally solved the issue - the TNC had a loopback connection from DTR to DSR.   The problem disappeared entirely when I removed that loopback connection the TNC

Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 interface

2023-09-27 Thread Alex ...
Jesse, I feel like I ran into that exact problem before a couple years ago when I was using my '102 for packet radio. Something also about poor battery life from the laptop while the TNC was plugged in as well? I didn't keep good notes, and I was testing several TNCs (two KPC-3s, a KPC-2, and a

Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 interface

2023-09-27 Thread Jesse Bertier
Fellow M100 Enthusiasts: I kept at it, trying all the various suggestions from the group. I finally solved the issue - the TNC had a loopback connection from DTR to DSR. The problem disappeared entirely when I removed that loopback connection the TNC was doing. If interested, I posted

Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 interface

2023-09-08 Thread Daryl Tester
On 9/9/23 00:10, Jesse Bertier wrote: I wanted to follow up with this issue - As it turns out, the TNC itself seems to be the culprit, at least with the M100. Even small text strings get garbled, with software flow control enabled on both sides. That TNC works fine with a PC, just not the

Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 interface

2023-09-08 Thread Jesse Bertier
I wanted to follow up with this issue - As it turns out, the TNC itself seems to be the culprit, at least with the M100. Even small text strings get garbled, with software flow control enabled on both sides. That TNC works fine with a PC, just not the M100. Next time I have the scope out,

Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 interface

2023-07-19 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
Yes. Since the data is processed at the hardware level that makes sense. The garbling I usually see is because of the software level getting behind and dropping portions of multibyte characters (UTF-8) or unprocessed escape sequences (ANSI escapes, x terminal stuff) But that may be specific to my

Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 interface

2023-07-19 Thread Jesse Bertier
Thanks John, my next test(s) will be transferring programs to/from the M100, and I believe I read somewhere that zmodem would work well. It’s been decades since I’ve used it, reminds me of BBSes, and that DOS terminal program, TERMINATE (I believe that’s what it was back in the day). > On Jul

Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 interface

2023-07-19 Thread Jesse Bertier
For sure, flow control is key also. I noticed that the TNC was a mismatch with this Model 100, as my PC and other rig have no issues, no garbled characters, same baud rate — if I hit it hard with a large chunk of text, the M100 drops some chars, but it does not get garbled (odd ASCII chars).

Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 interface

2023-07-19 Thread Jesse Bertier
July 10, 2023 12:57 PM > To: m...@bitchin100.com <mailto:m...@bitchin100.com> > Subject: Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 > interface > > Hi Jeff, > > Thank you - I noted my serial # was after the 30601 mark, and verified > the

Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 interface

2023-07-11 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
" TPDD uses 9600 and 19200 reliably only because it operates in small packets and no screen updates." TPDD drives and emulator file services work with no flow control at high speeds because of the half duplex, request/response nature of the TPDD protocol... it's client driven, and the client is

Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 interface

2023-07-11 Thread Brian White
The receive buffer on m100 is small and tge screen updates in telcom take so much time that, even with xon/off enabled, you can't go over 600 baud reliably. The in-band software flow control has a minimum round trip time that means that by the time the 100 sends the "stop sending" and the other

Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 interface

2023-07-10 Thread birt_j
further corrosion. I have done a few videos on M100 recapping describing the process. Jeff From: M100 On Behalf Of Jesse Bertier Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 12:57 PM To: m...@bitchin100.com Subject: Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 interface Hi Jeff

Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 interface

2023-07-10 Thread Gregory McGill
n: > > https://youtu.be/KPFnwv_nDD8 > > Jeff Birt > > *From:* M100 *On Behalf Of *Gregory > McGill > *Sent:* Sunday, July 9, 2023 5:40 PM > *To:* m...@bitchin100.com > *Subject:* Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 > interface > >

Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 interface

2023-07-10 Thread Peter Vollan
stat 98n1,e On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 at 15:40, Gregory McGill wrote: > there's no hardware flow control on the 100 with telcom > use a better terminal and hardware flow control at any baud rate over 2400 > > > On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 3:19 PM Jesse Bertier wrote: > >> First time getting my hands on a

Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 interface

2023-07-10 Thread Peter Vollan
What about software flow control? On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 at 15:40, Gregory McGill wrote: > there's no hardware flow control on the 100 with telcom > use a better terminal and hardware flow control at any baud rate over 2400 > > > On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 3:19 PM Jesse Bertier wrote: > >> First time

Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 interface

2023-07-10 Thread Jesse Bertier
n Behalf Of Gregory McGill > Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 5:40 PM > To: m...@bitchin100.com <mailto:m...@bitchin100.com> > Subject: Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 > interface > > there's no hardware flow control on the 100 with

Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 interface

2023-07-10 Thread Brian Brindle
And of course I didn't see my mistake until seconds after hitting send.. The settings to enable flow control are STAT 88N1E - sorry about that. On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 7:02 AM Brian Brindle wrote: > Hey Jesse - congrats on getting the model T! They make great packet > stations for sure. The

Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 interface

2023-07-10 Thread Brian Brindle
Hey Jesse - congrats on getting the model T! They make great packet stations for sure. The issue you are describing sounds like a flow control one. Depending on what TNC you are using you should be able to activate XON/XOFF. On my old Timewave I think the command is XFLOW ON. Then just ensure

Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 interface

2023-07-09 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
Probably peer is overrunning m100's receive buffer. -- John. On Sun, Jul 9, 2023, 3:20 PM Jesse Bertier wrote: > First time getting my hands on a model T. I am attempting to connect to a > TNC at 9600 baud. I have both matched for 8,N,1 and 9600 baud. TNC works > with other PCs. I’m using

Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 interface

2023-07-09 Thread birt_j
Subject: Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 interface there's no hardware flow control on the 100 with telcom use a better terminal and hardware flow control at any baud rate over 2400 On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 3:19 PM Jesse Bertier mailto:berti...@gmail.com

Re: [M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 interface

2023-07-09 Thread Gregory McGill
there's no hardware flow control on the 100 with telcom use a better terminal and hardware flow control at any baud rate over 2400 On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 3:19 PM Jesse Bertier wrote: > First time getting my hands on a model T. I am attempting to connect to a > TNC at 9600 baud. I have both

[M100] Intermittent problem at higher baud rates on RS-232 interface

2023-07-09 Thread Jesse Bertier
First time getting my hands on a model T. I am attempting to connect to a TNC at 9600 baud. I have both matched for 8,N,1 and 9600 baud. TNC works with other PCs. I’m using TELCOM and set the parameters correctly. What happens at 9600 baud is the text coming into the m100 is garbled mostly