Team, I know I'm late to the party, but I just purchased a T100 and it
should arrive soon:) I noticed the NADSBox has been discontinued or out of
stock. I'm happy to help to get more made and the proceeds can all go to
the club. Is there anyone to talk to about the design and firmware?
Also, anyon
I have the memory modules at arcadeshopper.com and also a android based
tpdd solution
Greg
On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 12:12 PM Jesus R wrote:
> Team, I know I'm late to the party, but I just purchased a T100 and it
> should arrive soon:) I noticed the NADSBox has been discontinued or out of
> stoc
Even though NADSBox units are not available currently, there are
alternatives. LaddieAlpha runs on multiple platforms
(Windows/Linux/Raspberry Pi) and provides full TPDD support. There are
two versions of mComm, one for Windows and one for Android. The Android
version can be used on a smart phone o
A tpdd emulated in low level basic hardware in line with the tpdd itself
really appeals to me.
I would love to try to make it work on a tinyduino, or maybe a gotek.
Tinyduino may not seem "basic" being so small and modern, but it's a
microcontroller not a PC. It doesn't run linux and systemd and b
I have a project that uses an Arduino Mega to emulate a TPDD.
https://github.com/TangentDelta/SD2TPDD
I have plans to eventually sell easy-to-use shields that provide the RS232
level shifting and SD card interface.
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 16:02 Brian White wrote:
> A tpdd emulated in low level b
at this point is the m100 just a keyboard/dumb terminal?
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 4:31 PM, c646581 wrote:
> I have a project that uses an Arduino Mega to emulate a TPDD.
>
> https://github.com/TangentDelta/SD2TPDD
>
> I have plans to eventually sell easy-to-use shields that provide the RS232
> le
Not for loading and storing files. That requires a TPDD client running
on the m100. But when you go to TELCOM to do anything, you are basically
a vt52 terminal.
Kurt
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Jeff Gonzales wrote:
> at this point is the m100 just a keyboard/dumb terminal?
>
> On Mon, Aug
Yeah, but if you're bringing an Arduino into the picture why not just build
a new unit around it? Or gut an m100 and use it directly with the keyboard
and screen?
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 4:38 PM, Kurt McCullum wrote:
> Not for loading and storing files. That requires a TPDD client running on
>
I'm sure it'd be possible to program a M100 simulator for the
Arduino/Arduino Mega, but it'd be difficult and have tons of overhead.
Running one of the off-the-shelf simulators on a Raspberry Pi is much more
doable, but you're just slaving a much more powerful device to the M100.
I like using Ardu
Brian, here's an idea - How about junking the html so I can read
your interesting posts without converting them to text files first...
Just a suggestion - My 70-year-old eyesight would appreciate it.
thanks,
Jack
On 8/20/18, c646581 wrote:
> I'm sure it'd be possible to program a M100 si
On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 19:16:31 -0500, John Gardner wrote:
Brian, here's an idea - How about junking the html so I can read
your interesting posts without converting them to text files first...
Just a suggestion - My 70-year-old eyesight would appreciate it.
Brian's emails have both text and HTM
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 8:16 PM John Gardner wrote:
Brian, here's an idea - How about junking the html so I can read
your interesting posts without converting them to text files first...
Just a suggestion - My 70-year-old eyesight would appreciate it.
Ok, just remember who started this convers
Feel better now? "8) OK, suit yourself.
On 8/21/18, Brian White wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 8:16 PM John Gardner wrote:
>
> Brian, here's an idea - How about junking the html so I can read
>
> your interesting posts without converting them to text files first...
>
> Just a suggestion -
John.
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 19, 2018, 6:41 PM Adam Murray wrote:
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> > Hello. Just wondering what kind of activity this group sees these days.
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This looks great!
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 4:31 PM c646581 wrote:
> I have a project that uses an Arduino Mega to emulate a TPDD.
>
> https://github.com/TangentDelta/SD2TPDD
>
> I have plans to eventually sell easy-to-use shields that provide the RS232
> level shifting and SD card interface.
>
>
I'm playing with Teensy 3.5 and 3.6 myself right now. They have sd slot
built in and, and of course serial minus the max232, and seemingly gobs
more cpu and ram than needed for this task, considering what a real tpdd
itself has to do almost the same job. And unlike Tinyduino, the io pins are
all ac
The series resistors in the Model T series portables are too large to
sipheon off anything but low micro amps.
Ken
On 8/23/18 4:37 PM, Brian White wrote:
I'm playing with Teensy 3.5 and 3.6 myself right now. They have sd
slot built in and, and of course serial minus the max232, and
seemingly
I think you would be much better off pulling power from the bar code port.
I've successfully run a WiFi 232 off that port with a simple cable. Sure,
it's not as pretty with another cable to connect, but it's still highly
portable.
Or just run it off an AA battery and a boost regulator. Mark Blair
That's what I would say if using an sbc (pi) instead of a microcontroller
(arduino).
But even these microcontrollers are more powerful cpus and have more ram
than the host machine in this case, but then again, ever since day one,
peripherals have always had their own cpus that were at least the
equ
If you need power, how much are we talking? Could you not just use AA's?
The TPDD uses 2xAA :-)
On Fri, 24 Aug 2018, 3:37 a.m. Brian White, wrote:
> That's what I would say if using an sbc (pi) instead of a microcontroller
> (arduino).
> But even these microcontrollers are more powerful cpus and
4, 2018 at 4:31 AM
To: mailto:m...@bitchin100.com>>
Subject: Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)
If you need power, how much are we talking? Could you not just use AA's? The
TPDD uses 2xAA :-)
On Fri, 24 Aug 2018, 3:37 a.m. Brian White,
mailto:bw.al...@gmail.com>>
I was playing with the Teensy 3.6 some more last night and got it waiting &
responding to commands by serial (the built-in ftdi usb-serial not via
max232 yet), reading/writing to files in a fat32 fs on the sd, blinking the
on-board led during drive activity, and displaying text on a tiny 128x64
0.9
That sounds great. What sort of current draw are you getting? Quite curious.
From: M100 on behalf of Brian White
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 20:12
To: m...@bitchin100.com
Subject: Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)
I was playing with the
.
>
> From: M100 on behalf of Brian White
>
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 20:12
> To: m...@bitchin100.com
> Subject: Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)
>
> I was playing with the Teensy 3.6 some more last night and got it waiting &
> respond
ite
> curious.
>
> --
> *From:* M100 on behalf of Brian White
>
> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 20:12
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)
>
> I was playing with the Teensy 3.6 some more l
*From:* M100 on behalf of Brian
>> White
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 20:12
>> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)
>>
>> I was playing with the Teensy 3.6 some more last night and got it waiting
&g
> Running at 2mhz:
> While waiting for a keypress: 18.3ma @ 5.07v
> While writing to sdcard: 33-38ma @ 5.07v
That's not bad by itself. This is roughly 1/3 of the current draw of
the M102 itself, so maybe ~33% impact on battery life with no
optimization.
> This is with no special tricks to go idle
measure current right now :)
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/rq2TM5cWNV8NMkyi8
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 3:15 PM Fugu ME100 wrote:
>>
>>> That sounds great. What sort of current draw are you getting? Quite
>>> curious.
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>> I have the memory modules at arcadeshopper.com and also a android based
>> tpdd solution
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 12:12 PM Jesus R wrote:
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Thanks for the tips Ken!
Jesus R
I just got your arduino code working on a Teensy 3.6, using the built-in
card reader, SdFatSdioEX, hardware flow control, and even writing
status/progress messages out to a little oled screen.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/DaR7pHERsgNrGs718
So far, with the oled stuff enabled I can clock down to 4mhz
Dinking around with this.. it just ocurred to me that it might not be too
hard to make the Teensy serve up tpdd on all 6 of it's external hardware
serial ports...
The Teensy only has rts/cts for 2 serial ports, so for simplicity's sake
you'd just have rts/cts and dsr/dtr/cd shorted in all the rj11
Yeah, but still fun to put together!
Kurt
On Thu, Aug 30, 2018, at 10:08 PM, Brian White wrote:
>
> An office file server for M100's
>
> What a wonderfully useless project. :)
>
>
I do kinda like the idea of having my house wired with an M100 LAN. There
are already unused RJ11 jacks all around the house.
On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 10:04 AM, Kurt McCullum wrote:
> Yeah, but still fun to put together!
>
> Kurt
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018, at 10:08 PM, Brian White wrote:
>
>
>
I managed to get it to run and satisfy Gary Hammond's TpddTool.py even
running at the lowest possible clock rate of 2Mhz.
At that clock rate the entire thing including the rs232/cmos tranceiver is
drawing as little as 10ma when I get sleep() working. But still only about
18ma even without sleep() (
LAN PARTY
On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 10:42 AM Kevin Becker wrote:
> I do kinda like the idea of having my house wired with an M100 LAN. There
> are already unused RJ11 jacks all around the house.
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 10:04 AM, Kurt McCullum
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, but still fun to put together
Well it turns out this works fine with TS-DOS, it just doesn't work with
TpddTool.py!
It's strange:
* TS-DOS works with a real TPDD2 (obviously)
* TpddTool.py works with a real TPDD2
* TS-DOS works with SD2TPDD
* TpddTool.py does not work with SD2TPDD
??? whatever I'll figure t out sooner or late
Sorry for the inactivity. I fell off of a ladder at work and broke my
ankle. I haven't been able to circle back around and catch up to the
developments in this thread.
I really like the idea of using a teensy instead of the Mega! There is a
lot more power there for doing things like an OLED displa
I don't see anything obvious either, but I haven't gotten methodical on it
yet.
What I've seen so far is:
dir 0: works fine.
Neither reading or writing a file works, though TpddTool thinks writes work.
When reading, TpddTool generates the initial searchform that looks the same
as ts-dos, except
It's possible that I may have screwed up somewhere and forgotten to pad the
shorter file names? I had a similar issue with short directory names and
just needed to add a routine to pad it out with extra spaces. It'd be
interesting to see what the directory reference return looks like when
TpddTool
Hi All,
It may also be a bug in TppdTool. It would be good to be able to replicate this
so I can fix it.
Cheers,
Gary
From: M100 On Behalf Of Brian White
Sent: Monday, 3 September 2018 3:43 AM
To: m...@bitchin100.com
Subject: Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)
Well it turns out
I got it idling at 3.3ma. Holy crap 3.3ma!
This includes the rs232 module being powered from the Teensy.
This is with all the usb-serial code ifdef'd out, and the cpu clocked at
2Mhz.
I'm not using RTS/CTS any more either, since TS-DOS itself doesn't.
https://youtu.be/_lFqsHAlLyg
On Sun, Sep 2, 20
Forgot to say, by adding avr/sleep.h
I think there might be other better low power libraries and examples. This
was just my first attempt.
It's not quite working right, but close. It draws 15ma on power-up until
the first command is processed, then it acts like I wanted after that. It
draws 3.3ma w
Got the sleep working properly now. Goes right to 3ma right from power-up
or reset.
One last thing that isn't great about power drain is, if the teensy is
connected to the M100, and the Teensy is turned on, but the M100 is turned
OFF, then it draws 19 ma!
But it's good with the teensy on and not co
Now that I think about this, that power drain with the M100 off is expected
I guess. Resting state of the rs232 RX line is high right?
So with the M100 turned off, the teensy is driving the line high while the
M100 is not, so it's a continuous drain from teensy to m100.
I guess I could add a DTR li
Ken, any chance I can buy a NADSBox from you? It would really help with my
WAV archiving project.
Thanks,
JR
On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Jesus R wrote:
> Thanks for the tips Ken!
>
> Jesus R
>
SD2TPDD works without modification on an Adafruit Adalogger 32u4
Your original code not my hacked up version I mean.
Even the chip select is already correct out of the box.
https://www.adafruit.com/product/2795
This board doesn't have the cpu, ram, or other hardware to do some of the
other facy id
There's the entire kit for SD2TPDD on an Adalogger 32u4.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/N2v6iB45pePNFQNA8
Bam. Couldn't be sweeter.
On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 9:56 PM Brian White wrote:
> SD2TPDD works without modification on an Adafruit Adalogger 32u4
> Your original code not my hacked up version I mea
This is pretty cool. I think I might have to check it out. It might be an
excuse to finally get a 3d printer too.
On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 10:35 PM, Brian White wrote:
> There's the entire kit for SD2TPDD on an Adalogger 32u4.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/N2v6iB45pePNFQNA8
>
> Bam. Couldn't be
If I were going to mount this inside the M100, I would
1) retask the modem port to be directly connected to this
2) use a patched main rom to allow modem port to run at 19.2
3) directly wire it to the battery voltage (after the on/off switch)
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 11:37 AM Kevin Becker wrote:
My adafruit logger arrived today. Not sure if I'll get a chance to try
this out tonight but sometime in the next few days I hope to give it a try.
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Stephen Adolph
wrote:
> If I were going to mount this inside the M100, I would
> 1) retask the modem port to be di
I'm continuing to hack on it, but now my own current local version isn't
working any more. I'm *this* close to having the top-right corner of ts-dos
display the current working dir instead of the static string "SDTPDD". But
the version currently posted on github still works and does at least have
t
I’ve got a max232 I was using to talk to the GPIO pins on a raspberry pi
that I was planning to use with this. I’ll most likely use Linux for the
programming but I have a few Macs I can use too. No windows though.
On Sep 20, 2018, at 7:12 PM, Brian White wrote:
I'm continuing to hack on it, but
I think my problem was simply overfilling the small amount of ram on this
controller. I don't get any warning about that from the Arduino IDE at
compile-upload time, but,
* All the example sketches still worked fine, just this one version of my
own sketch caused the problem, same laptop, without ev
Using the Arduino IDE the F() macro or equivalent is essential to store text
strings otherwise you will run out of RAM fast.
The SD-Card Library that is part of the IDE is a memory hog too.It does not
work well on the smaller ATMEGA parts with only 2K of memory especially if you
want to add
...yep, reducing ram usage down to 1.7k and everything is happy again...
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 12:13 AM Brian White wrote:
> I think my problem was simply overfilling the small amount of ram on this
> controller.
>
--
bkw
I got the directory display working.
https://github.com/aljex/SD2TPDD/tree/bkw_al32u4
So now it sleeps at about 2ma when idle, the light next to the card reader
blinks during card access, and the spot in the top-right corner of TS-DOS
shows the current directory, or "SD: " in the root dir, and a
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