Hi Phil,
Yes I have attempted to complete the tutorial three times. I can't
get VoiceOver to work in it either. It beeps at me.
On Sunday, January 12, 2014 9:21:55 PM UTC-5, phil halton wrote:
have you tried to learn VoiceOver basics by opening the VoiceOver help
menu and selecting
Hi Shawn,
Thanks. I do have Skype. I am going to try a couple of different
things over this week, and thankfully a few people have offered to help.
If this doesn't work, maybe I need the program checked.
On Sunday, January 12, 2014 9:46:44 PM UTC-5, Shawn AKA BBS wrote:
Hi April. I
Hi April. Well if you feel comfortable, you can add me to Skype and
I'll do my best to help you as well. My Skype name is bbstheblindrapper.
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Hi April,
It seems to me that you might be pressing incorrect key combinations when
trying to use VoiceOver. Either that, or you have a physical problem with your
keyboard that is affecting the activation of the Control and/or Option keys.
There’s not really much that should have happened
That only means that you're pressing a wrong key combination. You have to
listen, learn (trial and error sometimes), and think about what you're doing.
And, stay calm and focused at the same time - the tutorial is as simple as it
gets, so if you quit that your chances for success are going to
I opened Safari.
I turned VoiceOver on.
After a dozen tries, I managed to get it onto the Bookmarks.
Somehow, as I was transferring my notes to a Pages document, it crashed,
and a low, low, grumbling male voice started speaking.
I turned off VoiceOver, closed Safari, and tried again.
Another
April,
First, you are needlessly making far too much work for yourself all for
nothing. Why do you insist you must turn Voice OVer off every time you get out
of Safari. This is quite frankly, unnecessary. Also, the procedure you are
using to try to open bookmarks is completely incorrect.
The reason for turning VoiceOver off is to clear it, so when I open it back
up, it will be back at the beginning, and maybe I can manage to figure out
the steps to opening a web page from the bookmarks. I know it's
incorrect. I haven't found directions anywhere. I just have multiple
lists
April,
I can't even imagine what approach you're trying to take here, or why you're
taking it.
In the nearly four years I've been using a Mac, I don't think I've *ever turned
Voiceover off. You don't need to clear anything.
Best,
Donna
On Jan 12, 2014, at 1:34 PM, April Brown
Hi, April,
It sounds like you very possibly could very much benefit from individual
instruction. If you have an Apple Store in your area, you might find out if the
folks there can refer you to someone. Or you can call Apple’s accessibility
number for referrals. I am not saying this because we
Hi Donna, I am trying to learn VoiceOver. Not successfully. I still have
some vision, some days. I now have a headache. Thanks to Ray Foret, I can
now open a web page, I just still can't figure out how to get it to read it
without clicking where I need it to go. I have to learn to learn
Hi Teresa,
I really need on on one training. However, the techs have no
training in VoiceOver. I did call the number once, and never reached a
person, just high pitched screaming music. I did the online chat, and even
that tech didn't know anything about VoiceOver.
On Sunday,
Hi April,
I think that Teresa is right. I didn't follow this thread from the beginning,
but it seems pretty clear that there's a big piece that you're missing.
Perhaps if you were able to work one on one with someone, You could more easily
get the support you need so that you could avoid
Hi Donna,
I definitely need someone who can help me, and give a list. I do
like the Mac much better, except for the tinier fonts thing. I never could
figure out how to use even NVDA on Windows either. I had to increase fonts
again today on Firefox and Pages. Almost too big to
But April, by turning Voice OVer on and off, you are not doing what you think
you are doing. There is no starting at the beginning with Voice Over. Just
leave it on. How else do you expect to learn it?
For more, I’d go to:
www.applevis.com
and also,
www.icanworkthisthing.com
YOu simply must
By turning it off, and then re-opening everything, I restart at the
beginning, instead of stuck in a toolbar that I don't how to get out of. I
have to know where it will start each time, so I can make notes, and be
able to use it the next time.
Perhaps tomorrow, my husband can listen to the
What do you mean it beeps. I leave my Mac on with Voiceover running all the
time, and it never beeps. The only sound I can think of that you might be
hearing is the ding signifying that you got a new email. If that bothers you,
then just close the email program, or disable the new mail
April, best command I have learned myself at this point is command Q to close
everything and command W to close windows. A few days ago I believe Sarai sent
an article from Mac World. If it did anything for me, it made the layout of the
screen much more understandable. I even learned what Time
Hi Donna,
It beeps if I hit an invalid command. Which appears to be about every
combination I try on that list of common commands. It beeps and does
nothing because it won't use that command there.
On Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:26:10 PM UTC-5, Donna wrote:
What do you mean it beeps. I
Hi Regina,
I thought about just trying to learn to use it in Mail. However,
when I need it most right now, is the late afternoon, When I want to relax,
the screen is too blurry to see, and some nice Internet surfing would be a
good way to relax for twenty minutes. While learning
Hello.
I have sent you an email off list regarding your mac. Thanks.
Matt Dierckens
matt.dierck...@gmail.com
On Jan 12, 2014, at 3:58 PM, April Brown aprilbrownwr...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Regina,
I thought about just trying to learn to use it in Mail. However, when
I need it most
Hi April,
As others have mentioned, I believe that you're approaching this from a more
difficult prospective than necessary. When you turn off VoiceOver (VO) before
starting Safari, you're causing VO to behave different than most people on this
list would experience. That is, if you start
I have no idea what this even means. voiceover doesn’t clear or *start over* am
extremely confused here.
Alia
On Jan 12, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
April,
I can't even imagine what approach you're trying to take here, or why you're
taking it.
In the nearly
Hi Tim,
Tomorrow I can try turning VoiceOver on before I open Safari. My
head hurts too much tonight. Yes, I tried the training thin g three times,
and couldn't even get it to work in the training module. I've printed a
ten page list of commands, a 30 page list of commands, and a
No more than I am, I'm sure. When something gets stuck on a computer, the
common knowledge is to shut it down, and restart. Exactly what I was
trying to do, every time VoiceOver would get stuck and every command I
tried would just make it beep and do nothing.
On Sunday, January 12, 2014
Where are you located?
On Sunday, January 12, 2014 11:21:13 AM UTC-8, April Brown wrote:
I opened Safari.
I turned VoiceOver on.
After a dozen tries, I managed to get it onto the Bookmarks.
Somehow, as I was transferring my notes to a Pages document, it crashed,
and a low, low, grumbling
have you tried to learn VoiceOver basics by opening the VoiceOver help menu and
selecting the quick start tutorial? Once you've worked through that tutorial
you can read through the getting started guide?
Me thinks you're making it far more complicated than it is. Honestly, start at
the
Hi April. I may be of some help. I have two options for you because you
say you want one-on-one training. If you have Skype, you can add me to
Skype and I'll be happy to teach you the basics to Voiceover. I have a
friend on here that I've taught how to use the Mac and it helped her
greatly.
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