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>
> Hi!
> Zoom has this feature too.
> So when I am command tabbing from zoom to mail for example I can hear someone
> coming in s the system voice announces it.
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>> 26 mars 2021 kl. 06:03 skrev 'Sh
Is this Zoom different from that of online meeting app?
Thanks!
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Hi!
Zoom has this feature too.
So
your default language is English, you'll have to change it by
> going to System Preferences and use the spoken content section of
> accessibility. By the way, to answer the first question that was asked, in a
> table you don't have to press VO+Space to select spoken content. You jus
ll have to change it by
> going to System Preferences and use the spoken content section of
> accessibility. By the way, to answer the first question that was asked, in a
> table you don't have to press VO+Space to select spoken content. You just
> stop interacting and everythi
if your default language is English, you'll have to change it by going
to System Preferences and use the spoken content section of accessibility. By
the way, to answer the first question that was asked, in a table you don't have
to press VO+Space to select spoken content. You just stop inte
I see, ok, thanks much!
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If you are using VoiceOver, you should not even be fooling with Spoken Content.
This will just
Spoken Contents in
system preferences > Accessibility and interact with the table there, should I
hit VO-spacebar in order to select Spoken contents prior to stopping
interaction or leave it alone and stop interacting?
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Hi, Group.
When we interact with a table, for instance, if I go to Spoken Contents in
system preferences > Accessibility and interact with the table there, should
I hit VO-spacebar in order to select Spoken contents prior to stopping
interaction or leave it alone and stop interacting?
Tha
nd in Safari as it can fill in a lot of the info saving work.
>
>>> On Feb 18, 2021, at 13:39, Steve Z. wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi list,
>>> I tried to fill a form on Safari, but I am facingI am facing problem
>>> interacting with the edit
>>>
.
> On Feb 18, 2021, at 13:39, Steve Z. wrote:
>
>> Hi list,
>> I tried to fill a form on Safari, but I am facingI am facing problem
>> interacting with the edit
>> boxes. I tried to move with tab, but it moves the first, second and then
>> throws me to the e
you might try form controls with vo-command-j. I use that sometimes.
> On Feb 18, 2021, at 1:39 PM, Steve Z. wrote:
>
>> Hi list,
>> I tried to fill a form on Safari, but I am facingI am facing problem
>> interacting with the edit
>> boxes. I tried to move wi
> Hi list,
> I tried to fill a form on Safari, but I am facingI am facing problem
> interacting with the edit
> boxes. I tried to move with tab, but it moves the first, second and then
> throws me to the end of the webpage. I tried with veal left arrow and move to
> one or
>
> Hi. Group.
> I am new to Mac and am having hard time grasping the concept of start-stop
> interacting.
> I’d appreciate if someone could explain this concept to me in layman’s terms.
> Thanks!
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, refresh/stop and share buttons. It also contains address bar.
Because programmers define their apps in this way, you find this hierarchy of
objects.
Well, how can you move across these levels of objects? The answer is
interaction.
Interacting with object, means that you want to know its content
then unless you stop interacting with the toolbar, in other words close the
door you won't be able to resume what you were doing.
To be honest this is a really difficult concept to try and explain in words.
When I got my first mac off a friend, it took me ages to get the concept.
But to be h
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I am new to Mac and am having hard time grasping the concept of start-stop
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Hello,
I experience the same issue. This happens here since several updates so it
seems to me not to be a nuw issue.
On the other hand large tables can be created in Numbers much better and it’s
much easier to navigate in their. So may be this is a solution here as well.
All the best
Jürgen
Hello Brooke,
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to send me one, I’ll try to help. My e-mail is:
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Cheers,
Anne
> On 13 Dec 2018, at 22:16, Brooke Jostad wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Before the latest pages update, navigating multipage
Hi all,
Before the latest pages update, navigating multipage tables seemed more
simple. Now, I can't get to the next page in a table. I try navigating to
the next page but pages brings me back to the top of the table every time.
Does anyone else have this issue?
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Jonathan,
Thanks so much for your direction on this. I really do appreciate it.
One more question, if it’s not too much trouble: Right now the script is set to
download the current track, but if I wanted to not download it and simply add
it to my Apple Music library, is there a command for that
The apple script commands below appear to do what you want.
tell application "iTunes" to set loved of current track to true
or
tell application "iTunes" to download the current track
Now let me see if I actually loved that Bruce Springsteen song. Yes, Loved is
now checked. There is a separate
Hi!
I wrote a message in a group on facebook but i can not view the comments.
I see that people has commented the message but when i double tap on the
message i only get suggestions such as save or remove or block comments.
So how in the world do i view the comments?
Thanks.
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Hey all,
Not sure if this question has been brought up before, but I was wondering if
there exists any sort of script or any way of creating keyboard shortcuts to
better interact with Apple Music on the Mac? For instance, when I hear a song I
like, I’d ideally like to be able to simply navigate
, and it
> doesn’t mater if I am using standard or Bookend navigation modes for
> VoiceOver. As soon as we come into the mixer group and interact, the crash
> comes.
>
> Actually, we know that this is going to happen, because usually, there is a
> selected item within the mixer gr
group, and you can tell so even before
interacting. When you come to the mixer group VoiceOver says “Mixer group, one
item selected” and if it doesn’t say “one item selected” we know that when
interacting, it will become busy.
Thanks very much in advance for all your help!
Best
Daniela
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> On 4 Jul 2015, at 10:01, Edward Green wrote:
>
> Hi Shawn,
>
> Furthe
Hi Shawn,
Further to Chris’s post, I’d recommend using VO+end to move directly to the
HTML content rather than repeated presses of VO right arrow.
Cheers,
Ed
> On 4 Jul 2015, at 07:42, christopher hallsworth
> wrote:
>
> Don't tab; use the vo keys to navigate to the HTML content then interac
Don't tab; use the vo keys to navigate to the HTML content then interact with
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> On 4 Jul 2015, at 07:19, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
>
Hey all. I know there must be an easier way to get to the HTML content of Apple
Music but don't know what it is. I've been tabbing all this time to get to the
HTML content. Is there an easier way?
Shawn
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Hi all, there is also no problem with trying to interact as you will find out
quickly if you can't
Jerry
On Feb 8, 2015, at 5:23 am, Piotr Machacz wrote:
You can interact with anything that's likely to contain other items. IE a tool
bar will have buttons in it, a table has various items, scro
Normally you can interact with containers. Scroll areas, tables, toolbars,
groups, HTML contents, and probably a few others I'm forgetting. Note that to
review the contents of some of these items, interacting is not always required
(particularly true of tables). You can also interact with
You can interact with anything that's likely to contain other items. IE
a tool bar will have buttons in it, a table has various items, scroll
areas are parts of the screen that have a lot of controls, html, etc.
Sometimes, it's not obvious that you can interact with something to get
even more i
Hi folks,
I know this is an elementary question, I should know it, however there are
times I screw it up. A friend was working with me to help me make rules for a
mailbox. There are times I know when to interact and when not to. Is there a
basic rule of thumb one can follow in order to know when
Hi:
Sorry I am just not getting how to turn off the preview pane. There is a
vertical splitter to the left of the messages table. Are you saying this
should not be there?
I need more details steps please.
Jean
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Hi,
In addition to Alex's comments, you may wish to confirm whether QuickNav is on
or off. I've noticed on occasion that when QuickNav is on, VO behaves similar
to that. To toggle QuickNav on or off press down the left and right arrows at
the same time, VO will announce QuickNav on or off.
H
Jean,
If you have the preview pane turned off, then you can use enter to read the
mail messages. If it's still turned on, then vo j will work to switch between
the messages column and the message body.
To turn the preview pane off, from the message column, vo right arrow over to
the horizontal
Hello:
Thanks for the info about using vo j to open a message. What I don't
understand is that I have always used enter in the past to open a message as I
see no reason to use both hands for something if one hand will do the job.
Recently however, using enter only puts me in the message header
That only works if you have not closed the preview pane. If you press enter to
open messages, I imagine that you have closed that. I'm not sure why vo isn't
reading the message when it opens, but have you tried a restart, or quitting
Mail and re-opening it? VO may also need to be restarted.
On A
Try to press VO+J instead of using the Enter key. This is the jump command and
when you do this the VO cursor jumps from the message list into the message
content area and it interacts automatically
. To jump back to the message list just press VO+J again and you will go back
to your list of mes
Hi All:
I have noticed a change in voiceover lately which is most annoying. In the
email program, when I hit enter to open a message, voiceover used to
automatically interact with the text of the message. Now that doesn't happen.
Instead, it lands on the message headers and I have to specifi
Hi All,
Just a quick addition to the points that John Panarese made about why the
process of interacting for VoiceOver on the Mac is likely to stay around for a
while longer. Interacting minimizes the load on your system by only
loading/tracking those facilities that VoiceOver needs to use
Hi guys,
Anyone had problems navigating an imgessage in messages when there are a whole
bunch of archived messages? I have my iPhone and mac connected together for
iMessages, so when I communicate with my wife, I have lots of message
conversation elements between us. as this list gets longer, i
isionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 9:55 AM
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Subject: Re: VoiceOver stops interacting with HTML content on its own and
the full screen mode also keeps getting disabled frequently
I hate to tell you, but, this
O-Command-H to browse by heading.
>
> On 01/12/2012, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
>> Sometimes, when I start interacting with the HTML content of a webpage
>> in Safari, after a while, VoiceOver stops interacting with the HTML
>> content on its own.
>> For example, let'
Accessibility
I'm sorry for the error. I meant VO-Command-H to browse by heading.
On 01/12/2012, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
> Sometimes, when I start interacting with the HTML content of a webpage
> in Safari, after a while, VoiceOver stops interacting with the HTML
> content on its own.
Hi Rahul. When I used Safari in Lion in full screen, I noticed similar
problems. Voiceover would only jump to the first visible heading that it saw
and navigating was difficult all in all. I was hoping that Apple would fix
these issues but I see they haven't. You might want to send this to Apple
I'm sorry for the error. I meant VO-Command-H to browse by heading.
On 01/12/2012, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
> Sometimes, when I start interacting with the HTML content of a webpage
> in Safari, after a while, VoiceOver stops interacting with the HTML
> content on its own.
> For examp
Sometimes, when I start interacting with the HTML content of a webpage
in Safari, after a while, VoiceOver stops interacting with the HTML
content on its own.
For example, let's say I go to Google and type asearch term and
then start interacting with the page containing the search re
Thanks, Gavin! That method seems to be working now, although it's probably too
early to know for sure. Great work around.
Thanks,
Nic
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n't used it much lately
> but think I have resolved the issue.
>
> I had set up a messages activity to turn off cursor tracking like it was
> recommended by the user guide. I deleted it and now use normal default cursor
> tracking options and it appears to have solved the
Hi Nic,
After I hit VO-A and wait for it to automatically interact, I hit Control to
stop speech, then press VO-Shift-End to go to the bottom of the html content
area. I realise it isn't an ideal solution, but it's the only one I could come
up with that worked repeatedly.
Regards,
Gavin Grundl
nd it appears to have solved the issue with interacting with
the html.
Best.
Ioana
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On 2012-09-27, at 4:09 PM, Gavin Grundlingh wrote:
> Hi,
>
> What seemed to resolve that issue for me is moving the VoiceOver cursor to
> the html content area and pressing Contr
Thanks Chris and Gavin.
Gavin, the only problem I foresee with that soolution is that the messages I
want to read are nearly always the last few at the bottom of the HTML area.
Doing VO-A I assume will read from the beginning, which will read out all my
really old messages and take a really lon
Hi,
What seemed to resolve that issue for me is moving the VoiceOver cursor to the
html content area and pressing Control-Option-A. This should automatically
interact with the html content area and start reading whatever is in it. I
sometimes have this problem in Skype, too.
Regards,
Gavin Gr
Thanks for duplicating the same problem I had and I think still having
despite a reinstall of Mountain Lion. No solution I have here. Sorry!
On 27/09/2012 05:00, Nicholas Parsons wrote:
HI,
Just today I started having a problem with the Messages app. I'm running the
latest version of Mountain
HI,
Just today I started having a problem with the Messages app. I'm running the
latest version of Mountain Lion.
When I first start messaging someone, I'm able to interact with the HTML
conversation area fine. However, after carrying on the conversation for
sometime, VoiceOver suddenly refuse
6, 10:52 am, Brian Fischler wrote:
> This is something that just started happening over the weekend, it has
> happened to me before and it is quite frustrating as when I am using
> safari any time I open a new tab I must first hit VO shift down to
> start interacting with ta
it has
> happened to me before and it is quite frustrating as when I am using
> safari any time I open a new tab I must first hit VO shift down to
> start interacting with tab instead of automatically being taken in to
> the new tab. Not sure why this is happening as it was working pr
time I open a new tab I must first hit VO shift down to
> start interacting with tab instead of automatically being taken in to
> the new tab. Not sure why this is happening as it was working properly
> when I first installed Mountain Lion. Additionally, anytime I click on
> an in page
This is something that just started happening over the weekend, it has
happened to me before and it is quite frustrating as when I am using
safari any time I open a new tab I must first hit VO shift down to
start interacting with tab instead of automatically being taken in to
the new tab. Not sure
This is something that just started happening over the weekend, it has
happened to me before and it is quite frustrating as when I am using
safari any time I open a new tab I must first hit VO shift down to
start interacting with tab instead of automatically being taken in to
the new tab. Not sure
I forgot to add that I'm using SL.
On Jul 29, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
> As the subject line says, automatic interaction with the HTML area in these
> browsers doesn't happen anymore for some reason. Is there a setting
> somewhere?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Kim
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As the subject line says, automatic interaction with the HTML area in these
browsers doesn't happen anymore for some reason. Is there a setting somewhere?
Thanks!
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> Subject: Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with
> items
>
> Hi Chris, Erik here from ebony consulting in toronto. I feel your pain.
>
> To comment on a couple of things that have been said, I actually find that if
> you turn automat
Hey. good point. I never thought of it that way, but i think you're right. I
also think it gets easier with practise.
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I think sometimes we get hung up on the word interaction.
I have entered this thread late but actually with screen readers on \Windows
systems we often have to interact. It is not called interaction so we do not
recognise it as such.
For example in a Windows save as dialogue you have to tab to
Hi,
I've keyboard commander shortcuts for these individual commands. I find
pressing VO W on a MBP or, BT keyboard quite difficult. lol
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On Jun 6, 2012, at 5:03 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:
> Hi there!
> Well v
Yes, VO W does just as you describe; I'd never have thought to try it, as it's
not a keystroke I can easily do with one hand.
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Hi there!
Well vo+W reads the word vo+WW spells the word vo+www spells the word with
those words like tango bravo and so on!
hth Colin
On 6 Jun 2012, at 21:58, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:
> This is one way in which VO is a little bit awkward; that sometimes you have
> have to interact two le
On 6/6/12, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:
> This is one way in which VO is a little bit awkward; that sometimes you have
> have to interact two levels down just to get to the ability to spell or
> phonetically sound out a word. I wish there was a "spell current word,"
> feature; I guess I could m
This is one way in which VO is a little bit awkward; that sometimes you have
have to interact two levels down just to get to the ability to spell or
phonetically sound out a word. I wish there was a "spell current word,"
feature; I guess I could maybe set one up in one of the commanders...
•
One other big deal with interacting is generally at the lowest level,
you will be interacting with a text element at which you can spell the
word or words even letter by letter and that is often impossible at
upper levels of navigation.
On 6/6/12, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:
> There is
Hi and if they get the hang of quicknav!
You can also interact with down/right arrows pressed together and left/down
arrows to stop interacting also pressed down together!
And just for info up/down arrows together is the same as vo+spacebar!
hth Colin
On 6 Jun 2012, at 21:19, Mark BurningHawk
There is no WRONG time to interact, unless what you're trying to do is outside
the scope of the portion of the window you're interacting with at the moment.
To interact, press VO Shift Down-arrow, and to stop interacting, press VO Shift
Up-arrow. Just that simple. If interacting
Ok, So, when is the right time to interact and what are the keystrokes to
interact and get out of interacting?
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> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 7:18 AM
> Subject: Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with
> items
>
> Hi Chris, Erik here from ebony consulting in toronto. I fe
anual to me which he had in braille and each time it came to interacting, I
could not grasp it. In fact when we ever talked about interacting, I would get
miserable as I thought I'd never get this bearing in mind I was with this
person for a week. He would give me a hard time because I
I'm fairly new to the Mac world but I had been exposed to the concept
of interacting from previous podcasts and discussions. So I didn't
really have that much trouble with the concept of interacting. But
that doesn't help your student. What I learned concerning interacting
is wh
She did great last night, so let's just hope the pattern continues.
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type environment. Then, I try to refrane.
>
> Chris.
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or all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with
items
Hi Chris, Erik here from ebony consulting in toronto. I feel your pain.
To comment on a couple of things that have been said, I actually find that if
you turn automatic interaction via tab key then things work more like windows,
in direc
icult for some
folks to truly grasp. You can describe interacting as drilling into something,
taking a closer look, pulling the curtains back and stepping closer to a window
to look at something outside ... I have found that this area is one that more
than a few people have difficulty dealing
> The way I explain VoiceOver's interacting with an object or region is to
> think of what a sighted person does with their eyes when they want to focus
> in on a small region of the screen. They squint their eyes a bit and narrow
> their gaze and focus in on a region of the s
> existence. she is doing great, however now we're to the point where I am
> trying to help her learn the concept of interacting with certain items. at
> this point, she is following behind miserably. I'm not saying that it's her
> fault, it's probably the way tha
Hi there
You know, sometimes the only way you can explain the concept is to say "don't
worry about it, just do it. "Now I say that because I've had a few concepts I
didn't get and I just said okay I'll just do it. But the reason I did not have
trouble with the
Hi Chris
I agree with Veronica here. I'm a new Mac user and don't really get interacting
either. But I'm learning by trial and error, and not stressing if I don't
understand the concept. Your ring binder analogy and the zoom camera one
actually really helped me, so thanks
nt who is starting
> from ground one. to the best of my knowledge, I do not believe that she even
> knew what voiceover was left alone how to use it until I told her of its
> existence. she is doing great, however now we're to the point where I am
> trying to help her learn the c
as I do in the
messages table in mail. So, what did I finally do
for me? Gave up on trying to get the concept.
I did better with rote learning. Interact here.
Don't interact here. Try something and if it
doesn't work, try interacting. I can't think of
anything in the Windows sc
The way I explain VoiceOver's interacting with an object or region is to think
of what a sighted person does with their eyes when they want to focus in on a
small region of the screen. They squint their eyes a bit and narrow their gaze
and focus in on a region of the screen that might
HI. i find interacting for me was learned through trial and error.
but then i am a very hands on person. after all your student can't hurt
anything by interacting with stuff and seeing what happens.
just a thought.
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, however now we're to the point where I am trying to help
her learn the concept of interacting with certain items. at this point, she is
following behind miserably. I'm not saying that it's her fault, it's probably
the way that I am presenting it to her. I honestly am not s
Hey all,
I would like to know the comands for interacting with voice over on the focus
40 blue.
I got the display yesterday, it was great. i never immagined it interacting
with voice over like a breeze once i pluged in the USB.
Anyway. how do i interact with tables with the braille display
Teresa,
I'm sure that this works fine for any sort of mailbox management issue, but the
issue to which I am referring to is a very specific one relating to interacting
with columns.
thanks.
On 2 Aug 2011, at 14:29, Teresa Cochran wrote:
I find that using the favorites bar in combination
box and e-mail address, would be
>> shown in a threaded view, I would arrow down my mailbox list to the Forums
>> mailbox, stop interacting and arrow right to the messages view, then
>> interact with it, then again interact with the columns and arrow over to the
>> subjec
address, would be
> shown in a threaded view, I would arrow down my mailbox list to the Forums
> mailbox, stop interacting and arrow right to the messages view, then interact
> with it, then again interact with the columns and arrow over to the subject
> view.
>
> this meant that f
set up so
> that my forums mail, which has its own mailbox and e-mail address, would be
> shown in a threaded view, I would arrow down my mailbox list to the Forums
> mailbox, stop interacting and arrow right to the messages view, then interact
> with it, then again interact with
Hi All,
A hopefully quick question, I used to have my mail in Snow Leopard set up so
that my forums mail, which has its own mailbox and e-mail address, would be
shown in a threaded view, I would arrow down my mailbox list to the Forums
mailbox, stop interacting and arrow right to the messages
y preview
> pane, the tab key usually causes VO to read the highlighted message.
>
> HTH.
> Geoff
>
> On Jan 26, 2011, at 9:04 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>
>> Hmm I think I can expand and collapse with out interacting. I"ve been able
>> to do it before.
&g
es VO to read the highlighted message.
HTH.
Geoff
On Jan 26, 2011, at 9:04 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> Hmm I think I can expand and collapse with out interacting. I"ve been able to
> do it before.
>
> S
> On Jan 26, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Jane wrote:
>
>> I haven
Hmm I think I can expand and collapse with out interacting. I"ve been able to
do it before.
S
On Jan 26, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Jane wrote:
> I haven't found a different way to do it. You have to interact an then
> collapse. At least for now.
>
> Jane
>
>
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