Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-20 Thread Allan Odgaard
For users who have their mail go through procmail the problem can be fixed by a rule like the following. But in light of Brads letter, I feel it is necessary to add a disclaimer saying that if this setting gets you killed or fired, I cannot be held responsible! :p :0 fw * [EMAIL

[Mailman-Users] Reply to list instead of poster (was: Muti-Mailman install)

2008-06-19 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 19 Jun 2008, at 08:38, adsarebad-at-. wrote: [...] Also it seems clicking reply on a msg here does a off list reply. So all my previous reply`s were done off list. It is the default for new Mailman installs and the admin UI even has: Where are replies to list messages

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply to list instead of poster (was: Muti-Mailmaninstall)

2008-06-19 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 19 Jun 2008, at 15:53, Mark Sapiro wrote: [...] You have said in another thread that these links contribute to excessive verbosity of the labels, but they often link to useful supplemental information. I don’t dispute that. I am sure there are lots of useful info there, but it drowns

Re: [Mailman-Users] Web UI request

2008-06-19 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 18 Jun 2008, at 20:32, Terri Oda wrote: [...] I've opened up a new page on the wiki to get more of a process going: http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Web+Interface This is great, but how should we use it? :) I think the easiest is simply to go through all settings, decide what is

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to enable VERP?

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 17 Jun 2008, at 18:47, Mark Sapiro wrote: [...] If you want Mailman to VERP all deliveries, just set VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1 and don't worry about personalization. Thanks, I ended up with just this one and it works. -- Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Queue problems

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 17 Jun 2008, at 18:53, Mark Sapiro wrote: Brad Knowles wrote: On 6/17/08, Allan Odgaard wrote: I transferred a lot of list members from a previous list. A dozen of these has left errors like the following in `logs/smtp-failures`: delivery to address failed with code 450: 4.1.2

Re: [Mailman-Users] List archive threading (pipermail)

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 17 Jun 2008, at 06:01, Brad Knowles wrote: On 6/17/08, Allan Odgaard wrote: I copied a list's mbox to a new server and regenerated the archive. Unfortunately threading is not rendered satisfyingly, here are the two Mailman/pipermail versions: Your threading got broken somehow, but I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 18 Jun 2008, at 10:04, adsarebad-at-. wrote: I have searched all over for how to do true virtual list with mailman and finely decided to run multiple mailman installs side by side. Have you seen http://www.gurulabs.com/downloads/postfix-to-mailman-2.1.py ? It was included

Re: [Mailman-Users] Encoding problems

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 18 Jun 2008, at 02:49, Mark Sapiro wrote: [...] Into `/etc/python2.5/sitecustomize.py`. This is despite proper setup of `LC_CTYPE` on the system. Seems to me Mailman should use the encoding of the current locale, not this site-wide Python default encoding (settable by root only). I am aware

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 18 Jun 2008, at 17:51, Brad Knowles wrote: Allan Odgaard wrote: I don’t think it will verify that the domain is the proper one (for mails sent to each list), but it should be simple to duplicate the service as mailman-list-a, b, c and setup the different ones to be used as transport

Re: [Mailman-Users] List archive threading (pipermail)

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 18 Jun 2008, at 17:45, Mark Sapiro wrote: Allan Odgaard wrote: Raw mbox file. And new letters sent to the list also show up with wrong indent in the web archive. I'm only guessing, but I think there must have been some issue with the mbox file that caused the archive database file

Re: [Mailman-Users] Queue problems

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 18 Jun 2008, at 17:49, Brad Knowles wrote: [...] It is not necessary to recommend to others that they disable this feature on their copy of postfix. Instead, you should be recommending to them exactly what I recommended to you, which was to run a second copy of postfix with all checks

Re: [Mailman-Users] Encoding problems

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 18 Jun 2008, at 16:09, Mark Sapiro wrote: [...] The process of adding the list header and/or footer to the message attempts to add these to a text/plain body by coercing the body and the header/footer to unicode, concatenating them and then coercing back to the original body charset. If the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Web UI request

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 18 Jun 2008, at 17:41, Terri Oda wrote: [...] the more user input we get, the better! Another thread said that “the web UI is scheduled for overhaul”. Is anyone assigned to this? Is it an open process? Can we follow it somewhere? I think the admin UI suffers from: 1. Too many

Re: [Mailman-Users] list messages lost to Hotmail subscribers lost

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 19 Jun 2008, at 01:33, Mark Sapiro wrote: [...] The problem that I had initially and that you are apparently having now is that at some point, they accept your mail and then silently discard it. That hasn't happened to me again since the mitigation period, but I'm never relaxed about

Re: [Mailman-Users] Encoding problems

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 19 Jun 2008, at 00:24, Mark Sapiro wrote: So should I consider it a bug that setting list encoding to utf-8 will (in my experience) _always_ produce (base 64 encoded) utf-8 letters, when both header/footer and letter itself sent to list is ASCII? You may consider it a bug if you wish. It

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 18 Jun 2008, at 20:59, adsarebad-at-. wrote: Have you seen http://www.gurulabs.com/downloads/postfix-to-mailman-2.1.py ? [...] I think I may have ran into that file in my travels, can`t remember for sure through because I ran into so many. Is that the one where I need to have

Re: [Mailman-Users] List archive threading (pipermail)

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 18 Jun 2008, at 22:46, Mark Sapiro wrote: [...] I have never before seen a report like this. Since it occurs for a new list, there is apparently something wrong with the Mailman installation itself. If it were a problem with the Ubuntu package, I think it would have been seen elsewhere, so I

Re: [Mailman-Users] List archive threading (pipermail)

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 19 Jun 2008, at 07:00, Allan Odgaard wrote: On 18 Jun 2008, at 22:46, Mark Sapiro wrote: [...] I have never before seen a report like this. Since it occurs for a new list, there is apparently something wrong with the Mailman installation itself. If it were a problem with the Ubuntu

[Mailman-Users] Problems with the who command (migrating lists FAQ)

2008-06-16 Thread Allan Odgaard
I followed the FAQ¹ and sent a `who «password»` to my old list (where I am administrator). This scheme had the following problems: 1. All user settings are lost (digest, no email, etc.). 2. It does not return subscribers with concealed identity (hide). 3. User names with accents came

[Mailman-Users] List archive threading (pipermail)

2008-06-16 Thread Allan Odgaard
I copied a list’s mbox to a new server and regenerated the archive. Unfortunately threading is not rendered satisfyingly, here are the two Mailman/pipermail versions: Old: http://lists.textdrive.com/pipermail/textmate/2008-January/thread.html New:

[Mailman-Users] Encoding problems

2008-06-16 Thread Allan Odgaard
Some of my subscribers have accents and similar in their name and I had to do the following post install to have Mailman properly work with these: ## CLI In order to get `list_members -f «list»` to properly output non-ASCII user names I had to put the following: import sys

[Mailman-Users] Queue problems

2008-06-16 Thread Allan Odgaard
I transferred a lot of list members from a previous list. A dozen of these has left errors like the following in `logs/smtp-failures`: delivery to «address» failed with code 450: 4.1.2 «address»: Recipient address rejected: Domain not found This is interpreted as a temporary

[Mailman-Users] Spaces inserted in subjects

2008-06-16 Thread Allan Odgaard
On a new list I had this set in `mm_cfg.py` at creation time: OLD_STYLE_PREFIXING = No This caused extra spaces between the tag inserted and the subject for letters sent to the list. I suspected that this option was the problem, but I was unable to disable it again (seems to be

[Mailman-Users] How to enable VERP?

2008-06-16 Thread Allan Odgaard
When I look at the letters I receive from my list they do not have my subscription address in the `Return-Path` header, so I suspect VERP is disabled. I have placed the following in `/etc/mailman/mm_cfg:` VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = Yes VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes But I also see