[Mailman-Users] Re: Charter occasionally bouncing mail

Jayson Smith writes: > Good point about DMARC. Does anyone know if Charter suddenly started > caring about some DMARC policies on or around this past Friday? I for one don't know. You'd have to ask their postmaster, or get the subscriber to do so, to be sure. I think it's as likely that they

[Mailman-Users] messages being labeled as spam in the subject line?

Adam Morris writes: > I have seen on some mailman lists where messages sent to a list when > received by others have the word spam in the subject. Mailman does not do this, unless the list admin sets the subject tag to something containing "spam". > Is this a mailman setting that can be chan

[Mailman-Users] Re: customized From handling?

Rich Morin writes: > [the blinux admins] would probably be more inclined to update > within version 2.1.x (and tweak the config a bit) than to move to > version 3. That's fine with us. We are proud of Mailman 2, it's just that a decade ago we could clearly see it was reaching the end of the l

[Mailman-Users] Re: customized From handling?

Rich Morin writes: > So, it sounds like any feature requests should be directed to > Mailman 3: That is correct. > Mailman Core seems to be the best bet For the viewers playing along at home, there is no Mailman Core list as far as I know. :-) There are two lists, the core developers are al

[Mailman-Users] Re: Expected mailq behavior/maintenance commands

Mark Sapiro writes: > On the other hand, if VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL is set to 0, Mailman will > deliver messages to Sendmail in chunks with multiple recipients per > message. Note that personalization also affects this. For example, if the footer contains the subscriber's subscription page U

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman3 default list types

Mark Sapiro writes: > > Is there a chart that explains the differences between these styles? > Not really. All there is is > > > which mostly addresses how to implement additional styles. Note that

[Mailman-Users] Unable to confirm user email not can I approve posting via https website

p...@interisland.net writes: Oops, I deleted your second mail which had version information. IIRC your stack is Centos, Apache, and Mailman 2.1.29 (I forget the other version numbers, but they're not terribly important). > I'm not sure if these are a connected issue. When I use the web > inter

[Mailman-Users] different domain name for mail addresses and web pages

Thomas Schachtner writes: > i would like to use Mailman 2.1 for my own mailing lists. > I don't know if this is important, but I am using ISPConfig as > hosting software. Mailman is installed as a module there. Never heard of it. Do you have shell access to the host? If not, you're going to

[Mailman-Users] Illegal BOM?

Christian Buser via Mailman-Users writes: > ? addr...@domain.ch > ??? host mx01.servicehoster.ch [194.191.24.200] > ??? SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data: > ??? 550 Headers contain illegal byte order mark (BOM) > Reporting-MTA: dns; my.provider.eu I generally agree with Ri

[Mailman-Users] Comcast problems

Bernie Cosell writes: > I can't find the details of the MAIL FROM in the bounce message. Mailman (2, I assume) will set the MAIL FROM to its host, as defined by DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST in mm_cfg.py, or to the virtual host if you have those defined. (Not sure offhand where the latter is defined.) >

[Mailman-Users] Re: Web requests with garbage at the end of the list name

On 08/18/21 15:15, David Gibbs via Mailman-Users wrote: > Is anyone else seeing requests to their mailman install that look > something like this: > > Aug 18 15:10:16 2021 (31166) Hostile listname: > listname=midrange-l__;!!NVq9dfhzMyHqTw!wLl-dt8zxsuQuoyojs-UYmT_d65WZroClHaYGfHduJ561eT0B7baTQV1o

[Mailman-Users] subscription flood, redux

Karl Berry writes: I'm surprised Mark hasn't chimed in, maybe he's out on a boat catching salmon. Don't know when he'll be back, so here's what little I can say. > 1) The above mailman-users thread refers to using fail2ban. The set in https://github.com/fail2ban/fail2ban/tree/master/config/fil

[Mailman-Users] Re: Trouble with DMARC on Mailing Lists

onyeibo via Mailman-Users writes: > I was wondering if there is justifcation for OpenARC here. > Is that standard still in use? Mailman 2 probably never will implement the ARC protocol unless a 3rd party picks up maintenance and development (Mailman 3 does, though), but like most things that ha

[Mailman-Users] Re: Gmail and DKIM problems

Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users writes: > Thus, recipients see that messages aren't coming from where the sender > says they should be and that the cryptographic signature is broken. > Hence the receiving server is naturally treating the message from the > mailing list as highly suspicious.

[Mailman-Users] Recommended reading before upgrading to 3.x ?

Andy Cravens writes: > I’m running mailman 2.x and I am getting ready to build a new > server and migrate my lists to 3.x. For those of you who have done > this already, do you have any recommended reading suggestions other > than the official web page at > > https://docs.mailman3.org/en/l

[Mailman-Users] Re: Member settings etc. not applied

Lothar Schilling writes: > In mm_cfp.py it had to be > > DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/' > > instead of > > DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/' > > Simple as that Great to hear! > bin/withlist -l -r fix_url [liste] -u [domain] did the rest. Thank you for reporti

[Mailman-Users] Member settings etc. not applied

Lothar Schilling writes: > I set up mailman on a new server (Ubuntu 20, Mailman 2.1.29) and moved > all user data (archives, lists) from the old server to that new > environment. How did you set it up? From Ubuntu packages? > "The information you're about to submit ist not secure." I don't

[Mailman-Users] Re: CenturyTel bouncing mail from one specific AOL list member

Jayson Smith writes: > I tend to disagree, based on the following line: You're exactly right, sorry for the noise. You're (or possibly user kxxxb is) going to have to ask CenturyTel about this. I can't see any problem with the bluegrasspals signature, your key is in order in the selected DNS T

[Mailman-Users] CenturyTel bouncing mail from one specific AOL list member

Jayson Smith writes: > I'm having trouble with one of my lists. CenturyTel is bouncing mail > from one specific AOL user. The Mailman munge from is working as > expected, and I even tried configuring mm_cfg.py to strip incoming DKIM > signatures. However, as you'll see, CenturyTel is still

[Mailman-Users] Re: Problem with the Approved message confirmation

Ivan Tejeiro Izquierdo writes: > Thank you so much Stephen for the help, it has helped me a lot. Thank you for the feedback! It helps a lot to know when our help is really helpful. Steve -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.o

[Mailman-Users] Re: Problem with the Approved message confirmation

Ivan Tejeiro Izquierdo writes: > To summarize Mark and not drive you crazy, what we need is that the > person who sends an email to a moderate list, whether or not they > belong to the list, receive the email that tells them if their post > has been accepted or rejected. We are unlikely to pr

[Mailman-Users] MM-2.1.15: Small bug regarding the "request forgery check"

chetanasahu1...@gmail.com writes: > After clicking on the link rejection notice under sender filter, the page > gives below error: > > Error: The form lifetime has expired. (request forgery check) This appears to be https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1257112, long since fixed in https:

[Mailman-Users] Re: reCAPTCHA problem with some lists

David Gibbs via Mailman-Users writes: Hi, David! > On 12/3/20 9:02 AM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > > Look for the following line on those lists without the reCAPTCHA element: > > > > > > > > Add the following two lines right below the above line: > > > > > > I don't use this, so I'm

[Mailman-Users] Re: Is it my server or Yahoo's server(s)?

Robert Heller writes: > One thing I have noticed: while all three address domains are > getting some delay, only Yahoo and AOL addresses ever get delayed > until the 5-day point, the Verizon.net addresss never get a bounce > suspension. Yikes! That's more evil than I had imagined. This is t

[Mailman-Users] Is it my server or Yahoo's server(s)?

Robert Heller writes: > Is anyone else seeing this sort of problem? Yes, it's not just you and Mark. There have been several threads on this recently, naming one or more of Verizon, Yahoo!, or AOL as the problematic destination, all of which are under one management now. The combined entity is

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2 settings to minimise bounces

Thanks for the comments, Jon. Since this is not specific to solving a current problem, I'm pruning all the personal addresses. Jon Baron writes: > I had this problem very badly after moving our server to the cloud > (Linode), but not with this particular error message. At the beginning, > mos

[Mailman-Users] Web interface for users (not admins)?

Hi Skip! First, a bit of admin. Mailman 2 is still in active use, so we've split out a separate list for Mailman 3: mailman-us...@mailman3.org. Subscribe at https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ You can use several common social media to authenticate yourself. You'

[Mailman-Users] Re: Non-ascii characters missing from Pipermail archive txt and gz downloads

Mark Sapiro writes: > In short, the file contains just what it should, but there is a > Content-Transfer-Encoding issue. Technical niggle, probably not relevant to the issue itself: The charset parameter is an attribute of Content-Type. Content-Transfer-Encoding should be transparent to this p

[Mailman-Users] Re: Non-ascii characters missing from Pipermail archive txt and gz downloads

A bit OT, I'm glossing Mark Sapiro's explanation of compressed file handling in Mailman archive downloads. Mark Dale via Mailman-Users writes: > Thank you Mark, that information is appreciated and I've made the change. I'm glad you find it useful. Note that the story is a little more subtle th

[Mailman-Users] Bad email for requests or subscription attempts possible

Bader, Robert (Bob) writes: > I think I have a situation where someone is sending email to one of > my lists request address ie > (lista-reque...@domain.com) from > an invalid email address (maybe spoofing the sending address). Or > they may be able to trying

[Mailman-Users] Moving from HTTP to HTTPS, or You'd think a core dev ...

Hi all, This is a little embarrassing, but I thought y'all might deserve a heads-up. Note, this is not a bug, except in my brain. And maybe yours but probably not ;-). A couple years ago I converted my Mailman 2 site from HTTP to HTTPS. The site is visible externally to my university, thus HTTP

[Mailman-Users] Re: Upgrading mailman from 2 to 3 and private archives

Bader, Robert (Bob) writes: > I am not sure how many messages they linked but I suspect it is a > lot. They have lists they use for their groups, and will link to > the messages on their internal website. But if that is the only > option then that is what they will need to do if they want to

[Mailman-Users] Re: AT&T RBL again

Jon Baron writes: > I think what I have just said speaks to your question. If not, then I don't > understand your question. It wasn't a question. It was a statement that a technical solution exists that might be useful to some site administrators in relatively unusual circumstances. > Now fo

[Mailman-Users] Re: AT&T RBL again

Morris Jones writes: > [AT&T are opaque about their standards and process, and don't > provide any means to respond or unsubscribe their customers who > don't want your mail. This is the basic issue. Email users generally put more pressure on providers about "spam" (including stuff they've si

[Mailman-Users] Re: AT&T RBL again

Carl Zwanzig writes: > On 3/30/2021 9:28 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > I had two servers blocked by ATT, fortunately not this one. They were > > both DigitalOcean droplets,[...] > > FWIW, a couple of my regular correspondents have said that DO generally does > not have a great email reputation

[Mailman-Users] Re: Fwd: Bounce action notification

Vako Nicolian writes: > I forwarded only one of the bounces, check the list on this link: I'm a volunteer with limited time. I analyze what you summarize. > Mainly *Lost connection while receiving the initial server > greeting*. I have zero interest in those. Nothing Mailman can do can af

[Mailman-Users] Re: [ext] Upgrading to mailman3 maybe?

Bader, Robert (Bob) writes: > But I am also just checking to see what the > advantages/disadvantages there are for going to mailman 3 over 2. > Sure 2 is no longer being developed, Neither is Python 2, which is far more worrying given that Mailman is an Internet-facing application. Among othe

[Mailman-Users] What does rmlist remove?

Carl's message arrived just as I was about to post this, looks accurate. If you want more detail, here it is. Johannes Rohr writes: > what files are being removed by rmlist (without -a). I suppose, > /var/lib/mailman/lists/$LISTNAME/config.pck and the entries in > /var/lib/mailman/data/virtua

[Mailman-Users] Fwd: Bounce action notification

Vako Nicolian writes: > Today suddenly all my member emails bounced as you see a sample > below. > What happened and how can I fix it? This seems very unlikely to be a mailman problem at all. If for some reason somebody tries to blame it on Mailman and you want more help, please be more preci

[Mailman-Users] Re: Munge without CC or Reply-To

Diez writes: > The initial idea was > get a list for an organization so members can't see email addresses of > the others This is what anonymous list does. > and only one member (let's say the owner) was allowed to send some > contents, This is what Privacy Options | Sender Filters is for.

[Mailman-Users] Re: Fatal Bounces ONLY on ATT (Bellsouth).NET

steve lund writes: > BTW, so what is this "Registering" an email server with an ISP > domain? What it says. Other than putting your domain and IP on a list, I know of no policy that's common to most such programs. :-( > Is it worthwhile trying to get our web host to do this In general, yes.

[Mailman-Users] Re: AOL and other email systems

Vako Nicolian writes: > I am surprised that it hasn't popped up yet with you guys, It didn't "pop up" for us. It blew up, and started a week of sleepless nights and days for thousands of email admins (and a few Mailman developers with a lot of assistance from some DMARC developers), not to ment

[Mailman-Users] Re: Change moderator or admin password (random) different for each list they were an admin or moderator for - Mailman 2.1

Hi, Daniel Mark Sapiro writes: > On 3/4/21 7:06 AM, Daniel Botting wrote: > > My script and usage so far can be found below: > This was asked and answered at > > > The answer there was correct and is you are genera

[Mailman-Users] Re: Pipermail scrubbing ascii txt to ksh attachment

Executive summary: -0.8 for changing Scrubber (don't think there's a benefit either way => don't bother), +0.5 for .txt (not sure it's worth the effort), plus an amusing (YMMV) story. Mark Sapiro writes: > On 3/4/21 7:05 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > M

[Mailman-Users] Re: Pipermail scrubbing ascii txt to ksh attachment

Mark Sapiro writes: > >> Content-Disposition: inline > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >> > >> And in the mbox file below (of the same message), I see: > >> > >> Content-Disposition: inline > >> Content-Type: text/plain > >> Content-T

[Mailman-Users] Re: API/App based access to Mailman/Archives

Sam Kuper writes: > On a few occasions, I have tried to get organisations to use Mailman > instead of proprietary abominations like Slack or MS Teams. It was not > easy; and in some cases I was not successful. Let me second the appreciation for the work! I dunno about Slack, the last time I

[Mailman-Users] Re: API/App based access to Mailman/Archives

Steven Clift writes: > Thank Steve, what is the best link for 2021 GSoC? > > I can't quite find it. > https://wiki.list.org/DEV/Home?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=summer+of+code&titlesearch=Titles It probably didn't exist then. https://wiki.list.org/DEV/Google_Summer_of_Code_2021 shou

[Mailman-Users] Re: API/App based access to Mailman/Archives

Mark Sapiro writes: > The list is at , but it > isn't prioritized. If what you want isn't there, you can file additional > issues. After 2/19 19:00 UTC you can also look at the Mailman Wiki for the Google Summer of Code (GSoC) 2021 ideas list. T

[Mailman-Users] API/App based access to Mailman/Archives

Steven Clift writes: > Is it technically possible to interact via an API from a simple > mobile app with different Mailman servers? Depends on the definition of "interact". Obviously you could use a somewhat stripped-down browser to talk to HyperKitty on different servers. However, there is n

[Mailman-Users] Re: Add "sender's name/email" to BODY of mail as header?

Robert Heller writes: > Actually, *some* mail clients don't display all of the From header, > specificly some smart phone clients only display the e-mail address > and not the comment HEADDESK HEADDESK HEADDESK "Smart" phone is such a misnomer.

[Mailman-Users] Re: Add "sender's name/email" to BODY of mail as header?

Sam Kuper writes: > On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 11:00:20PM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Alex Bellig writes: > > This is not possible to do reliably in email due to the control of the > > relevant information by email authors. > > Just wondering... I can

[Mailman-Users] Re: Add "sender's name/email" to BODY of mail as header?

Alex Bellig writes: > I am interested in this option as well. Here is a scenario: > When people send a message to the group and don't sign their name, > I want their name to be picked from the membership list and > mentioned at the top of the body as From: > It will follow with their message

[Mailman-Users] MM3 - allow users to see other list members in

Stefan Bauer via Mailman-Users writes: > is there a way to display all list members on the list overview > page? Not on that page itself. If you are the list owner (or site owner), on the List Identity page in List Settings, you can set Members List Visibility to moderators only, to mailing li

[Mailman-Users] Re: Tracking email

Jesus Rivas writes: > for example the pixel image to track who open the email, i need for > knows how many user open the email. > > there are a similiar report in mailchimp. > > someone know a platform who help me to track the email list If you want to put an image in your HTML email, th

[Mailman-Users] Tracking email

Jesus Rivas writes: > Hi, is a old subject, but someone know some platform for email tracking??? What do you mean by "email tracking"? If you mean determining whether a message was received or read, email is basically fire-and-forget. There are some protocols for determining if a message was r

[Mailman-Users] Howto call script on list-membership change

Stefan Bauer via Mailman-Users writes: > is there a way to call a bash/perl/whatever script if there is a > membership change on any list in mailman3? No. > If not, how can one detect/monitor a list membership change (user > removed / added) in mailman3 automatically? Depending on list conf

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailing List Bounce Issues

steve lund writes: > Seems like Google is mucking about with its filters! That's their raison d'etre. (It certainly can't be their execrable UI.) They do a good job at filtering, and it gets better over time. Sometimes they make mistakes. Users want them to shoot first and ask questions later

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailing List Bounce Issues

steve lund writes: > Seems like Google is mucking about with its filters! That's their raison d'etre. (It certainly can't be their execrable UI.) They do a good job, sometime they make mistakes. Users want them to shoot first and ask questions later. They're pretty good (too good when it com

[Mailman-Users] leaking user list to recipient email domains

Mike Wertheim writes: > One of the email addresses on the list used a custom personalized domain, > which started bouncing. I didn't notice the bounces at the time. In addition to what Mark says, you should also investigate this. You should not need to notice the bounces. Mailman can be confi

[Mailman-Users] Archive Issue -- prune_arch doesn't remove detached attachments?

Ralf Hildebrandt writes: > Today I issued "prune_arch -l flohmarkt -d 30" and wondered about > the immense size of the corresponding archive directory > archives/private/flohmarkt > Shouldn't prune_arch also clean out the "attachments" directory? > (mailman-2.1.34) Probably, but that's up t

[Mailman-Users] genaliases not generating aliases

Eva Isaksson writes: > Now, setting up Postfix was not too big a problem, but getting it to work > with mailman has been challenging. Particularly, genaliases gives me a > traceback like this: [traceback trimmed] > File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 799, in get_site_email >

[Mailman-Users] Re: Using Mailgun with Mailman

Mark Sapiro writes: > Mailman's bounce processing relies on the envelope sender being the > LISTNAME-bounces address (possibly VERPed. If MailGun does bounce > processing, it presumably sends the mail with its own envelope sender > which would preclude Mailman's bounce processing I agree with

[Mailman-Users] Removal of Line Breaks in Replies to Digest Messages

Michael, I wrote a long reply, only to discover that Mark had written it first and better and posted it. :-) This part might be of some use if at least some of your users have sufficiently capable clients. Michael Reeder LCPC -- Hygeia Regular writes: > On 11/17/2020 9:21 PM, Michael Reeder LC

[Mailman-Users] Re: CPU %-usage surge associated with list archives

Mark Sapiro writes: > And several years ago (in the 2.1.5 timeframe), RedHat modified their > Mailman package to be FHS compliant for the specific purpose of avoiding > SELinux security violations. Is it possible FHS non-conformance is related to the OP's situation? Are we FHS conformant? If

[Mailman-Users] Re: CPU %-usage surge associated with list archives

Bill Cole writes: > On 15 Nov 2020, at 22:18, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > I don't see why access to archives would cause a security issue, Thanks for the reply! Also FWIW, I'm explaining here why I don't think this is a Mailman issue. If there is a vulnerability

[Mailman-Users] Re: CPU %-usage surge associated with list archives

Mark Sapiro writes: > On 11/15/20 8:01 AM, Onyeibo Oku wrote: > > Why am I getting AVC denials {map} associated with list archives? > > Any ideas on how I should stabilize this? We don't have a lot of SELinux experience here. For example, I myself have no clue what "AVC denials {map}" means (

[Mailman-Users] Problem with SPF, DKIM or Mailman-DMARC settings

Kala Balik writes: >Dear Mailman-Users, > >I have a Mailman instance running on a vServer with Plesk, but am using >email services from my provider (different IP and MX-Domain than the >Mailman machine). Emails in the format n...@domain.tld generally seem >to work. Howeve

[Mailman-Users] Topic hack to streamline use of topics.

Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users writes: > I implemented a hack in my LDA to search the body of messages for > specific keywords. When one (or more) of the keywords is found, it adds > a specific value to the Topics: header. The Systers have a feature called "dynamic sublists" which automatic

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users writes: > You're on the Mailman Cabal Yes. That means that the Mailman Cabal enjoys working with me and values what I do, and that's all it means. By the way, I'm not sure why you keep mentioning the Mailman Cabal, There Is No Cabal. ;-) >> I imagine ARC suppo

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

I wrote: > > >> I'm pretty sure that at least for now I[1] can configure a > > >> system to run Mailman 2 so that none of the above matters "None of the above" includes other crypto. > > > I'm pretty sure that's pure FUD. I do not agree. Besides being able to talk SMTP (and some people have

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users writes: > I am in no way a programmer - but as I understand it, Python 2 can > live alongside Python 3 without any problems. True. > The EOL declaration for Python 2 does NOT mean that Python 2 will > stop working on the date the publishers announced. Ther

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

Matthew Pounsett writes: > If someone was going to undertake a rewrite of Postorius, using a > different web development framework (e.g. Flask, but pretty much > anything that isn't Django) would at least remove one major moving > part from the install process. Rewrites of Postorius or HyperK

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

Cleaned up the @s. Jonathan M writes: > What would be fun is a “Mailman 2 lookalike” Python 3 user > interface for Mailman 3, complete with Times New Roman and Courier. The archiver part would be relatively easy to do; Pipermail is probably fairly easy to disentangle from Mailman 2. I can't s

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users writes: > On Thu, 2020-09-17 at 02:34 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > You don't need to have a title, an @mailman email address, or a commit bit > > to do any of that. > > > > You just do it. > > Exactly! But

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users writes: > Wait, so you do want to continue to support mm2 users, but you don't > want to support them in any fashion if someone else other than you and > Mark manages just the new features? That's right. Currently Mark and I have a tolerable balance between the

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users writes: > I personally think that you, Stephen, are digging high and low to find > any reason for Mailman2 to not continue forward under the Mailman > umbrella. Digging?? Wake up, Jim! It's *official policy* that Mailman 2 will not receive new features under t

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users writes: > See Stephens previous comments about how there was no way he could > or would work with anyone working on mm2 because it was against his > objectives, Correction: I will not work with someone who repeatedly misrepresents my positions in the way that th

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users writes: > As long as cPanel bundles MM2, I need from time to time some > support from the real experts. And even if MM2 would not be > improved at all in the future, I hope that this list will stay > alive. The existence of this list, and of support for Mar

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

Steven Jones writes: > I dont know what planet this user lives on, Please, don't. This conversation is painful enough on all sides. > > Speaking as _a_ user, my requirements are simple: > > 1. MM2 must continue to work, > > 2. support must continue to be provided." Read literally, he

[Mailman-Users] Re: Filer From: no-reply

Dennis Putnam writes: > Thanks. So far it is looking good but I made one small change: > > ^from:\s*( > I hope I did it right. That does what you want it to do, and no more. You can express it more compactly with ^from:\s*(https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.or

[Mailman-Users] Apache/mailman2 on RHEL8.2

Steven Jones writes: > Trying to do a setup, Did you get the issue with missing mailman-*.timer files sorted, or are you problem-solving in parallel? > I get the default page OK but when I follow the link, > > "List administrators, you can visit the list admin overview page to > find the m

[Mailman-Users] Trying to setup mailman2.1 and following the docs on RHEL8.2

Steven Jones writes: > I get this failure message, > > === > [root@vuwunicomailmp1 system]# pwd > /usr/lib/systemd/system > [root@vuwunicomailmp1 system]# for X in mailman-*.timer ; do systemctl > enable $X && systemctl start $X ; done > Invalid unit name "mailman-*.timer" was escaped as

[Mailman-Users] Re: Strange link disparity

Odhiambo Washington writes: > Your suspicions were right. > I hadn't specified the PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL in my mm_cfg.py. > I have now done that and my problem is solved. > I also did fixup my DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN to https. Ah, so you also remembered to run fix_url! *applause* Seriously, that's

[Mailman-Users] Strange link disparity

Odhiambo Washington writes: > When I enter the admin page of my list, all links point to > HTTPS://my.dom.ain, except the one that points to the list archives which > points to HTTP. > How is this possible? It's *possible* because list archives are frequently hosted at a different URL, so the

[Mailman-Users] options page for this list?

Russell Clemings writes: > A (probably stupid) question: How does one get to the list options page for > this (Mailman2) list? This list is *about* Mailman 2 but it is *managed by* Mailman 3. The footer is correct. I'm not sure why you can't get a password reset. That's probably a bug (altho

[Mailman-Users] Subscription Requests

nikos writes: > 1. how can I "lock" lists not to receive requests except administrator's > mass subscription? Put "^" (without the quotation marks) in Privacy Options | Subscription Policy | ban_list. (It says "list of addresses" but it also permits patterns. "^" is a pattern that matches at

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

I wrote a long screed, full of piss and vinegar. But on reflection, clearly nobody is reading what I wrote earlier, so let's try pithy and dry. It's still long. :-( Chip Davis writes: > OK guys, what's really going on here? I don't know. I can tell you I'm done with Jim. You'll have to ask

[Mailman-Users] Manual Update on Centos 7

Dennis Putnam writes: > Since Centos 7 is way behind on mailman rpm (2.1.15 is the only > available rpm) and mailman is currently at 2.1.34 I need to do a manual > update. While I know how to install software, I am concerned that just > doing a manual install from the tarball will mess up curr

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

I'm done, Jim. -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Secur

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users writes: > Again with the "Jim's team". Those other guys, that other group, them > folks That's nauseating to hear from you Stephen. I use the word "team" to describe people who work together closely to achieve common goals. That's just English. The team I

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users writes: > That, *that* ^^^, is my point. I want to take that on, I want to > work with contributors to commit their vetted and tested patches > into the mm2 branch, I've basically been told to go somewhere else > to do it. You have not been told to go elsewher

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

Dmitri Maziuk writes: > The point was that the argument about MM3 having a long life expectancy > "because python 3" is not in any way, shape, or form supported by the > history of the python programming language to date. *chortle* *In Mailman's experience* Python's backward compatibility re

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

Brian Carpenter writes: > On 8/26/20 6:25 PM, Carl Zwanzig wrote: > > > > As someone regularly uses and maintains a fair bit of old and antique > > machinery, MM2 still has a lot of life in it. In particular, MM2 L10N supports a couple dozen languages, including the major Han languages and di

[Mailman-Users] mailman v2.x

Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users writes: > A couple of days ago, over on the MAILOP mailinglist, there was a > long thread titled 'Mailman confirmation email denial of service'. *sigh* The price of success. Of course this can be done with any automated service that accepts an email address as a

[Mailman-Users] Re: How get UTF-8 in web interface

Mark Sapiro writes: > > Ah, interesting. However, what is the canonical approach then? Is the > > mailman web interface supposed to recode everything to UTF on the fly? > > Because, firefox thinks, that the pages are in UTF-8, presumably because > > that's what the server says. > > Mailman

[Mailman-Users] Re: How get UTF-8 in web interface

Johannes Rohr writes: > Indeed. The additional problem with Russian/Cyrillic is that you > have those various competing encodings, koi8, ISO-8859-5 and I > think a third one, and so recoding is always trial and error. This is generally true. At least with Russian and the Asian languages you h

[Mailman-Users] Re: Upgrading from 2.1.12

Mark Sapiro writes: > On 7/22/20 12:54 AM, Daniel Krause via Mailman-Users wrote: > > We have a running 2.1.12 installation that was done long ago via an > > external consultant. > > It hasn't been changed in years, but I would like to upgrade this to at > > least the latest 2.x version and p

[Mailman-Users] DNSException: Unable to query DMARC policy

Johannes Rohr writes: > We are running Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, the current mailman version is > from 2018. Except from installing the occasional security updates, > I don't see what has changed, that might be responsible for these > timeouts. I don't see why that would be a Mailman issue, though.

[Mailman-Users] Re: searchable private mailing lists in Mailman 2.1.20

Carl Zwanzig writes: > > I choose Mnogosearch because of its ability to support russian character > > encoding > > OK, any decent search engine should support UTF, which will pretty much > include all encodings. That's not really the way this works. No UTF even includes Latin-1 *as an enc

[Mailman-Users] [Spam] Setting a moderator password

Bernie Cosell writes: > I'm trying to set a moderator password for my list and I seem to be > doing something wrong: I went into "Passwords" entered the > moderator password both times and 'submitted' it and I get > "Authorization failed" when I tried to use it. What did I forget > to do? D

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