Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-07-09 Thread Savoy, Jim
Brad Knowles wrote: Correct. The Mailman developers feel that forcing all replies to go back to the list causes much more harm than good. For a real-world example: We run several thousand lists here at our university (not all in Mailman) and we had a class list set up with replies go to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-21 Thread Charles Marcus
On 6/20/2008 3:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wanted to say I did not mean to start a header war here. And I apologize for for letting my type A personality rear its ugly head. -- Best regards, Charles -- Mailman-Users mailing list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-20 Thread Allan Odgaard
For users who have their mail go through procmail the problem can be fixed by a rule like the following. But in light of Brads letter, I feel it is necessary to add a disclaimer saying that if this setting gets you killed or fired, I cannot be held responsible! :p :0 fw * [EMAIL

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-20 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Brad Knowles writes: Then you must not have read the FAQ I referenced. Please, Brad, don't go there. You know he's not going to change his mind, neither are you, or me, but what matters is that neither will Barry. So it's a moot point. --

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-20 Thread Charles Marcus
You replied on list, so I will too... but I will not respond to further arguments about it, since neither of us are likely to change our mind. On 6/19/2008, Brad Knowles ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Whats the big deal anyway? If you want lists configured to reply to the list, just set it that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Charles Marcus wrote: *My* point was simply pointing out that there *is a preference setting* in the Mailman GUI for changing this, so if someone *wants* to change it, they obviously *can* - so what difference does the *default* make? There is also an mm_cfg.py setting to override the default

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Allan Odgaard wrote: I use an anonymous remailer so personally wouldn’t work for me, plus when people reply to me and cc the list, there are no list headers in that message, even though it is a list message (one of the reasons reply to poster sucks). If this is a problem for you, set

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-20 Thread Brad Knowles
Charles Marcus wrote: You replied on list, so I will too... Not really a very wise idea. When I use my @python.org e-mail address (which I very rarely do), I speak from a position of a certain amount of authority on the subject. If you want to try to have a civilized private conversation

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-20 Thread Charles Marcus
On 6/20/2008 1:27 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: Charles Marcus wrote: You replied on list, so I will too... Not really a very wise idea. Really. Well, I had started to reply point by point until it became obvious that you are confused about something... Read the following carefully...

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-20 Thread Brad Knowles
Charles Marcus wrote: I am *not* arguing for changing the default - whatever gave you that idea? You may say that, but then virtually everything else you wrote was in strong, even violent, support of changing the default. So, what am I supposed to believe -- the tiny little disclaimer,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-20 Thread Charles Marcus
On 6/20/2008, Brad Knowles ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: It wasn't a threat. It was a statement of fact -- continued arguing with us on a subject considered long since dead is likely to have results that you're probably not going to like. I was talking about your cute little remark about giving

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-20 Thread adsarebad
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . Also it seems clicking reply on a msg here does a off list reply. So all my previous reply`s were done off list. I just wanted to say I did not mean to start a header war here. What I meant was I should have looked more closely where my reply was going and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-20 Thread Brad Knowles
Charles Marcus wrote: I was talking about your cute little remark about giving someone a FIREARM so that they could 'come demonstrate to me the danger their deear departed one faced'. I said I wouldn't do it. So there's no threat there. That chip on your shoulder is getting pretty heavy,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-19 Thread adsarebad
Well I finished my setup. I have a Multi-Mailman install set up and working. I have also wrote up a little writeup on how I did it. If someone who knows mailman would look at it and tell me if I have done something wrong that would be nice. Its at http://skagitattic.com/mailman.html

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-19 Thread Charles Marcus
On 6/19/2008, Brad Knowles ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Correct. The Mailman developers feel that forcing all replies to go back to the list causes much more harm than good, see FAQ 3.48 at http://wiki.list.org/x/44A9. Whats the big deal anyway? If you want lists configured to reply to the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-19 Thread Brad Knowles
Charles Marcus wrote: Whats the big deal anyway? If you want lists configured to reply to the list, just set it that way. What difference does it make what the default is? The point is that there are lots of MUAs out there that are broken, and if you screw with the Reply-To: header, they

[Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-18 Thread adsarebad
Hello all, I have searched all over for how to do true virtual list with mailman and finely decided to run multiple mailman installs side by side. However when setting up the fist mailman install I have ran into a wall. In mm_cfg.py POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['domian.com'] MTA =

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 18 Jun 2008, at 10:04, adsarebad-at-. wrote: I have searched all over for how to do true virtual list with mailman and finely decided to run multiple mailman installs side by side. Have you seen http://www.gurulabs.com/downloads/postfix-to-mailman-2.1.py ? It was included

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-18 Thread Brad Knowles
Allan Odgaard wrote: I don’t think it will verify that the domain is the proper one (for mails sent to each list), but it should be simple to duplicate the service as mailman-list-a, b, c and setup the different ones to be used as transport for the different list domains (via transport_maps

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-18 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have searched all over for how to do true virtual list with mailman and finely decided to run multiple mailman installs side by side. However when setting up the fist mailman install I have ran into a wall. In mm_cfg.py POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS =

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 18 Jun 2008, at 17:51, Brad Knowles wrote: Allan Odgaard wrote: I don’t think it will verify that the domain is the proper one (for mails sent to each list), but it should be simple to duplicate the service as mailman-list-a, b, c and setup the different ones to be used as transport

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-18 Thread Terri Oda
On 18-Jun-08, at 4:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have searched all over for how to do true virtual list with mailman and finely decided to run multiple mailman installs side by side. This doesn't answer your questions, but have you considered giving the lists unique names, but

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-18 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm.. It would be easy to write a little script to edit the tables mailman makes to be right but I don`t know how I would get mailman to call my script instead of (is it postmap?)...? I was looking through the mailman source for a call to postmap but could not

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

2008-06-18 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 18 Jun 2008, at 20:59, adsarebad-at-. wrote: Have you seen http://www.gurulabs.com/downloads/postfix-to-mailman-2.1.py ? [...] I think I may have ran into that file in my travels, can`t remember for sure through because I ran into so many. Is that the one where I need to have