Re: [mailop] Reg. delivery issues at Yahoo ISP

2021-05-12 Thread L. Mark Stone via mailop
We have found we have had to employ rate limiting to Yahoo (and a a few others). They seem sensitive not so much to total volume, but to sending rates from low-volume senders like us. Hope that helps, Mark _ L. Mark Stone, Found

Re: [mailop] Reg. delivery issues at Yahoo ISP

2021-05-12 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian via mailop
You might want to look at any other customers from the same or nearby IP ranges that aren’t sending transactional email? --srs From: mailop on behalf of Vaibhav via mailop Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2021 10:02:52 PM To: mailop Subject: [mailop] Reg. delivery iss

[mailop] Reg. delivery issues at Yahoo ISP

2021-05-12 Thread Vaibhav via mailop
Hi Everyone, Has anyone observed delivery issues with Yahoo ? Recently in the past one week we observed below delivery issues at Yahoo ISP. 1 ) TSS04 delivery issue. ( Known for some time now ) - With dedicated delivery IPs , Newly onboarded customers , Customer sending triggered / transactional

Re: [mailop] Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received

2021-05-12 Thread Stefano Bagnara via mailop
We recently saw that "S3150" on 3 IPs part of 3 larger netblocks. For all of them we opened a ticket and they "mitigated the IP": I tried collecting more info to no avail, of course :-( . Weird thing is at least one of them has always been *green* on SNDS and had not abuse reports at all in the re

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received

2021-05-12 Thread Michael Rathbun via mailop
On Wed, 12 May 2021 10:47:34 +0100, Laura Atkins via mailop wrote: >Or… care? Heh. The difference between not knowing and not caring is in the time lapse between the offence and the inevitable "time wounds all heels" event(s). mdr -- There's a funny thing that happens when you know the corre

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received

2021-05-12 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> On 12 May 2021, at 09:59, Michael Rathbun via mailop > wrote: > > On Wed, 12 May 2021 09:27:40 +0100, Laura Atkins via mailop > wrote: > >> The things we normally recommend to folks don’t always work as expected. >> Sometimes they do and we can fix things no problem. But sometimes they ar

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received

2021-05-12 Thread Michael Rathbun via mailop
On Wed, 12 May 2021 09:27:40 +0100, Laura Atkins via mailop wrote: >The things we normally recommend to folks don’t always work as expected. >Sometimes they do and we can fix things no problem. But sometimes they are >just an inscrutable black box with variable responses. This is a character

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received

2021-05-12 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> On 11 May 2021, at 19:00, Stefano Bagnara via mailop > wrote: > > In my case there was nothing at all in SNDS (green , complaint <0.1%, > no trap hits for every day in the SNDS history), but still I got that > S3150. I've been mitigated when I opened the ticket but I have no clue > what was

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received

2021-05-12 Thread Michael Rathbun via mailop
On Wed, 12 May 2021 10:08:37 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: >Your second paragraph can be basically summed up that there is no economic >incentive for Microsoft to care about the quality of email service they >provide - right? Tochno. >If yes, don't you agree that Microsoft should ;) si

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received

2021-05-12 Thread Michael Rathbun via mailop
On Wed, 12 May 2021 09:59:35 +0200, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop wrote: >I'm not talking about hotmail/outlook, I'm talking about Office365 customers >who *do* pay and who would be pretty much >not amused if their mails were broadly rejected. Ah. As one who was a Spam Analyst in the Office365

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received

2021-05-12 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 12.05.2021 o godz. 02:58:44 Michael Rathbun via mailop pisze: > > Microsoft *SHOULD* (in my own personal opinion, and that of many others) > provide the highest quality service they can, taking into account the needs of > all involved parties. > > Microsoft *IS* in a business that takes none

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received

2021-05-12 Thread Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop
Am 12.05.21 um 09:39 schrieb Michael Rathbun via mailop: > On Wed, 12 May 2021 08:37:30 +0200, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop > wrote: > >> Yet at the same time Microsoft expects "the world" to accept mail from their >> customers. > It would be difficult to verify this. There is nobody at MSFT (

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received

2021-05-12 Thread Michael Rathbun via mailop
On Wed, 12 May 2021 09:29:13 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: >But if they do provide it, they should do it well. It's no justification for >providing a crappy service that it is free. If you are doing something, do >it well, or don't do it at all. > >Sadly, they are so big that they can ju

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received

2021-05-12 Thread Michael Rathbun via mailop
On Wed, 12 May 2021 08:37:30 +0200, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop wrote: >Yet at the same time Microsoft expects "the world" to accept mail from their >customers. It would be difficult to verify this. There is nobody at MSFT (or at least wasn't when I worked there) that pays any attention to

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received

2021-05-12 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 12.05.2021 o godz. 01:13:48 Michael Rathbun via mailop pisze: > > You may wish to take into account economic realities. > > YOU are not a Microsoft customer. > The RECIPIENTS are not Microsoft customers. > > None of the above parties pays Microsoft a cent. There is no obligation for anyone

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received

2021-05-12 Thread Stefano Bagnara via mailop
On Wed, 12 May 2021 at 05:08, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > S3150 is throttling. > Open a ticket and ask for a more realistic hourly/daily throttle limit. Can you confirm? This is weird because SMTP error is: "550 5.7.1 Unfortunately, messages from [IP] weren't sent. Please contact your Inter

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received

2021-05-12 Thread André Peters via mailop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 - -- Originalnachricht -- Von: "Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop" An: mailop@mailop.org Gesendet: 12.05.2021 08:37:30 Betreff: Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received Am 12.05.21 um 08: