Re: [MBZ] Glow plug come on after starting

2005-10-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, I figured if a new plug measured whatever, then others that measure the same should be good. It will show a bad plug though with 30 or more ohms. Kevin wrote: On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 12:30:23PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Is there something wrong with me or what? Anytime I

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 5, Issue 36

2005-10-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Vehicle Snapshot Vehicle 1981 Mercedes-Benz 300 Series 300SD VIN WDBCB20A8BB013838 Body Style 4 Door Sedan Country of Manufacture Germany Vehicle History Checklist Vehicle Description WDBCB20A8BB013838 Title Check No records found Problem Check No records found Odometer Check No records found

[MBZ] 240D Con Rod trim...?

2005-10-07 Thread Van Cleve
You may remember me from such famous threads a whats this on my 240D. ...Thought I'd start a new one as, as I'm getting into some of the real meat of this rebuild. Heres where I am...no ridge (some carbon) in the cylinders and NO cross hatches, Allot of the parts in the eng look new, oil

Re: [MBZ] CarFax

2005-10-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Carfax has nothing to do with service, it only is for registration, accident reports etc. BillR wrote: Kaleb - Thanks for looking this up. I take it from the report that the guy didn't use the dealer for oil changes - probably did it himself. At least no problems showed up. Thanks again.

Re: [MBZ] Too big for Gump?

2005-10-07 Thread Van Cleve
I've always thought a tear drop trailer with wheel covers to match, would look way cool behind on of my 240Ds (two sets of wheel covers, of course). I even considered building one till my wife pointed out whens the last time we went camping? :-) Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone

Re: [MBZ] OT Yankees

2005-10-07 Thread Dan Weeks
Ayuh. Long's you put it on Round Top Ice Cream, not that Ben n Jerry's stuff they got... Dan Dow, Vermonters can be yankees all they want, their maple syrup is almost as good as ours... -Curt about to spend a week in Caribou cutting firewood. Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 07:23:42 -0500 From:

Re: [MBZ] 240D Con Rod trim...?

2005-10-07 Thread Don Teresa Merriman
A automotive machine shop that has engine balancing equipment can make all the rods weigh the same within a gram. There are some in the Olympia area, look under high performance or speed shop in the yellow pages. George Johnson a little south of Olympia would be a good one. Going to do the job

Re: [MBZ] CarFax

2005-10-07 Thread John M McIntosh
That's not quite true anymore. I had run some carfaxes earlier this year and got back maintenance information entered by a mercedes dealer, with a note from the carfax folks saying this was a new offering. I'd doubt the local grub lube joints enter the data tho. On 6-Oct-05, at 6:01 PM,

[MBZ] ebay bidders are nuts

2005-10-07 Thread Mitch Haley
1984 2.2 5sp, 168k, $4,000 and still going. Isn't that the kind of money a 87 turbo would go for, or a thousand less than a 16V? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4579815732

Re: [MBZ] 240D Con Rod trim...?

2005-10-07 Thread Rick Knoble
snip Scratches on the crank bearing journals, instant bearing death unless the crank is machined. One old timers trick was to take a old copper penny and drag it across the journal and if it left copper the crank was N/G. Now the challenge is to find a old soft copper penny. There is a machine

Re: [MBZ] ebay bidders are nuts

2005-10-07 Thread Rick Knoble
I don't follow bids on other vehicles, but it seems that bidders on MB diesels are on crack or have more money/credit than sense. I am ready to pull the plug on my Ebay searches and find a local used car dealer who will let me go with him to the auction houses. This is nuts Rick Knoble 1985

[MBZ] Valve adjustment wrenches

2005-10-07 Thread Hans Neureiter
I am working on making valve adjustment wrenches for my 617.951 engine and like to know the correct dimensions. Thanks angle I ? / _ / I / Height ? ===/ I 14mm Combi wrench -L?- -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D

Re: [MBZ] 240D Con Rod trim...?

2005-10-07 Thread Richard Hattaway
Steve, The crank is hardened on the journals, and grinding will most likely result in a very short lived rebuild. If the scratch is concave, IE not protruding from the journal, forget it. It makes no difference at all. Pls notice the *big* hole where the oil galley feeds the bearing. It

Re: [MBZ] ebay bidders are nuts

2005-10-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The price of this little 201 diesels is insane. Even before high fuel prices I dont think I would pay more than about 1200 for a nice one but they seemed to sell for 2500 or more. But 4K, thats stupid. Even stupid for a 2.5t. Mitch Haley wrote: 1984 2.2 5sp, 168k, $4,000 and still going.

Re: [MBZ] ebay bidders are nuts

2005-10-07 Thread John M McIntosh
Seller's market, my local paper reports. 1981 Mercedes 300 SD Turbo, blue, 171,000 km, A/C, alarm, pwr. sunrf., exc. cond., dealer mntn'd., $10,000. Tel: 250-658-2716 1996 MERCEDES 300 diesl 4-dr sedan, heat seat, glass roof, Immac! 144kms $28,800 250-385-6737 On 6-Oct-05, at 7:14 PM,

Re: [MBZ] Biodiesel

2005-10-07 Thread David Brodbeck
ernest breakfield wrote: having seen the experiences of the many BioD users in this area, i think the concerns over fuel lines leaking on our cars are much overstated; i'd watch the fuel lines as i would with most any other vehicle of that vintage, and replace them with something better

Re: [MBZ] ebay bidders are nuts and don't forget car dealers

2005-10-07 Thread John Ervine
Hendrik Riessen wrote: While we are talking ebay, check out # 4580031711 Is this a factory job or aftermarket angle grinder conversion? Should've been a coupe, prior to the application of a Sawzall. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S

Re: [MBZ] Glow plug come on after starting

2005-10-07 Thread David Brodbeck
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Is there something wrong with me or what? Anytime I measure plugs cold they always measure around 1.2 ohms, even brand new ones. What does your meter read when you short the probes together? I've got some cheap test leads that have almost 1 ohm of resistance all by

Re: [MBZ] 240D Con Rod trim...?

2005-10-07 Thread Van Cleve
Thanks for the shop info. I haven't decided just where I will take the crank. I will for sure use new cap nut bolts. Last time I did this I couldn't find a place that still does hot tanking so i washed the block (oil galleries) with hot water soap myself and gave it the blow dry. I just

[MBZ] Field Coil Power

2005-10-07 Thread B Dike
I tried another alternator for the 77 240D and it doesn't generate current either. There is no magnetic effect around the alternater when the car is running making me suspicious that there may not be power to the field coils. The two big wires have 12V but the small blue wire is dead. I would

Re: [MBZ] HOOD HINGE OF ALL THINGS

2005-10-07 Thread Woodlandtaylors
Mike, I have a 380SEC, 420SEL, and two 300SD in the drive - I'll compare tomorrow and let you know. Dennis T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 8:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Field Coil Power

2005-10-07 Thread David Brodbeck
B Dike wrote: I tried another alternator for the 77 240D and it doesn't generate current either. There is no magnetic effect around the alternater when the car is running making me suspicious that there may not be power to the field coils. The two big wires have 12V but the small blue wire is

Re: [MBZ] Field Coil Power

2005-10-07 Thread B Dike
Thanks David. The alternator light is dead. I will try another bulb in case that is the problem. Thanks, Bruce --- David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: B Dike wrote: I tried another alternator for the 77 240D and it doesn't generate current either. There is no magnetic effect around

Re: [MBZ] Field Coil Power

2005-10-07 Thread JFreezn
In a message dated 10/6/2005 9:44:49 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does your alternator light come on when you turn the key on? I don't know if Mercedeses are wired this way, but on many cars, if the alternator light is burned out or there's another break in

Re: [MBZ] Field Coil Power

2005-10-07 Thread B Dike
It worked! I replaced the bulb and now the alternator is generating current. David, you are a scholar and and a gentleman! Is this a great list or what? Thanks, Bruce --- David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: B Dike wrote: I tried another alternator for the 77 240D and it doesn't

[MBZ] Whine about Craigslist postings

2005-10-07 Thread redghost
http://www.thenewstribune.com/24hour/weird/story/2783113p-11399803c.html Could be worse. You could win a Benz -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] Bearings and Hubs

2005-10-07 Thread Kevin
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 11:16:30PM -0400, ned kleinhenz wrote: Put new tires on my '95 E300D yesterday. But that did not get rid of the WOW-wow-WOW-wow-WOW-wow-WOW-wow sound from the front end. With a little exploration, I found the outboard right front wheel bearing has a fractured roller. So

Re: [MBZ] Choices...

2005-10-07 Thread Mitch Haley
I forgot to mention the real reason not to buy a '92-'98 benz, the dangerously unreliable wiring: http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php3?t=23681 (and I was thinking of buying a '92 190E just this week)

[MBZ] NEW Tires fo rsale

2005-10-07 Thread James Zavesky
Have 5 new tires for sale. Falken Ziex ZE-512 All-Season tires 205/65/15 $50 each plus shipping email OFFLIST Jim

Re: [MBZ] 80 240D For Sale Cheap

2005-10-07 Thread andrew strasfogel
Not to be a pessimist, but idf all it needed was a new battery they would have bought one for $50 at Advance Auto. The cynic in me says no start = low compreession = tired engine. On 10/6/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend has a '80 240D with about 150k miles on it located

Re: [MBZ] ebay bidders are nuts

2005-10-07 Thread Tan Qu
$4000 may seem a lot of money for a small car like this. But if you look at the total ownership cost (not just the initial purchase cost) the 190D manual will come out better than any other MB diesel's available here in the states. Compare the 190D 5-speed to the '87 300D - 190D 5-speed get 38mpg

[MBZ] HOOD HINGE OF ALL THINGS

2005-10-07 Thread RAH
HI ALL i was checking the oil when suddenly my hood shifted!!! the hood hinge broke ok ok ok ...so i remained cool... now the question is the hinge the same on the sec cars as the sel cars ...my local wrecker says no but i have no real way to know any ideas thanks mike collins 1985

Re: [MBZ] HOOD HINGE OF ALL THINGS

2005-10-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The hood hinges on the SEC are different from the sedans. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI ALL i was checking the oil when suddenly my hood shifted!!! the hood hinge broke ok ok ok ...so i remained cool... now the question is the hinge the same on the sec cars as the sel cars ...my local

Re: [MBZ] HOOD HINGE OF ALL THINGS

2005-10-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I sell the hinges as a set, I dont have a set right now but I should have pretty soon. RAH wrote: HI ALL i was checking the oil when suddenly my hood shifted!!! the hood hinge broke ok ok ok ...so i remained cool... now the question is the hinge the same on the sec cars as the sel cars

Re: [MBZ] St Louis fest? Preliminary thoughts and ramblings

2005-10-07 Thread Christopher McCann
My wife is due on the 31st...so that is probably still an OK date...she was only early once, by six days, so I think I'm OK, esp since I'm only going to be 4 hours away...not like I couldn't get back in a pinch if I had too. Jim is out that weekend, unfortunately as is Jason who will be in CA for

Re: [MBZ] St Louis fest? Preliminary thoughts and ramblings

2005-10-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Doesnt look like toad is wanting to come so if we do come it will be in my SDL probably. Christopher McCann wrote: My wife is due on the 31st...so that is probably still an OK date...she was only early once, by six days, so I think I'm OK, esp since I'm only going to be 4 hours away...not

Re: [MBZ] Bearings and Hubs

2005-10-07 Thread ned kleinhenz
Thanks for the reassurance, guys. The front bearings do seem to naturally get neglected. The shop manual maintenance check list does not list repacking and adjusting the front wheel bearings. I guess the manual writters assume it gets done when the disks are replaced? And the disks are not

Re: [MBZ] ebay bidders are nuts

2005-10-07 Thread Gabriel S.
It would be easier to understand if it were a California car, but even then... On 10/6/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1984 2.2 5sp, 168k, $4,000 and still going. Isn't that the kind of money a 87 turbo would go for, or a thousand less than a 16V?

Re: [MBZ] Old Lady vs. SL

2005-10-07 Thread Gabriel S.
been posted. On 10/6/05, TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is hilarious. Guess who wins? http://willsthrills.com/movie.php?mid=oldladyvsbenz.wmv Tim 1982 300TD Moby ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/

Re: [MBZ] Anybody in Houston for PPI?

2005-10-07 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Rich, It's at Summit Imports, 5629 Star Lane, Houston 77057. 713/840-1948 http://imagesareus.com/summit190e/e.html Are you near that location? If it's convenient, would appreciate a first hand opinion, but don't go out of your way... I have spoken w/rep twice, but didn't note

Re: [MBZ] Anybody in Houston for PPI?

2005-10-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Chuck Landenberger wrote: I did get a CarFax from Kaleb that showed clean on all counts. Tho it showed car was driven 100,000 in just four years 1994-1998. Well, to me that shows potential highway usage. I know where there's a '92 sportline with rear spoiler and 5sp asking $4500 at 125kmi.

[MBZ] biodegradable wiring

2005-10-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Does the wiring defect affect all '92 model year cars, or might early '92 cars made in '91 be safe? (thinking about 1992 190E)

Re: [MBZ] Anybody in Houston for PPI?

2005-10-07 Thread Chuck Landenberger
On Oct 7, 2005, at 8:51 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: (going to be in Wisconsin any time soon?) Mitch, No, I think I'll stick to Arizona for the winter. Thanks for info tho, Take care, Chuck From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Oct 07 16:20:49 2005 Received: from web30014.mail.mud.yahoo.com

[MBZ] Glow plug testing procedure and fuse question

2005-10-07 Thread J.B. Hebert
Car is a '95 E300D. It appears that I've lost another glow plug. Since I had been limping by with at least 1 or 2 plugs gone, this puts me at 2 or 3 plugs gone and the weather is only getting colder. I can't seem to find the acceptable resistance to ground email that went around a while

Re: [MBZ] Anybody in Houston for PPI?

2005-10-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Chuck Landenberger wrote: Thanks for info tho, I think I forgot an important difference between 16V and 2.6 sportline. Did I mention that SLS is optional on sportline?

Re: [MBZ] garrett turbo parts

2005-10-07 Thread mykd1
its a good bet you can go right through Garrett and get a rebuild kit or replacement parts 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Constantine N. Polites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [MBZ] Glow plug come on after starting

2005-10-07 Thread J.B. Hebert
Is that value valid for all years? Thanks, J.B. At 01:30 PM 10/6/2005, you wrote: Is there something wrong with me or what? Anytime I measure plugs cold they always measure around 1.2 ohms, even brand new ones. Marshall Booth wrote: Constantine N. Polites wrote: I'd check the resistance

Re: [MBZ] garrett turbo parts

2005-10-07 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Constantine, Check out..http://www.turbobygarrett.com/ Garrett is now owned by Honeywell. Try a google on Garrett if the above site does not work to find parts/service take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Oct 7, 2005, at 10:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: its a good bet you can go

Re: [MBZ] Anybody in Houston for PPI?

2005-10-07 Thread andrew strasfogel
Looks slick, tho I was also wondering about those three round gauges in the wood trim beneath the radio - are they OEM or aftermarket? On 10/7/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chuck Landenberger wrote: Thanks for info tho, I think I forgot an important difference between 16V and

Re: [MBZ] Anybody in Houston for PPI?

2005-10-07 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Andrew... Standard equipment on all 16 Valves Left is oil pressure, center ?, right is ammeter. BFN, Chuck On Oct 7, 2005, at 11:09 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Looks slick, tho I was also wondering about those three round gauges in the wood trim beneath the radio -

Re: [MBZ] Glow plug come on after starting

2005-10-07 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 11:04:37 -0400 Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I think they read .6 when shorted by themselves. If your leads measure 0.6 ohms - then you don't need glow plugs :-) Or if you think you might possibly need glow plugs, subtract the meter's

Re: [MBZ] Glow plug testing procedure and fuse question

2005-10-07 Thread J.B. Hebert
Already planning on pulling the manifold. I don't really see any other way to get good access to them. :( Marshall had noted a value of .6 ohms as being nominal. I assume this is for any parallel plug, but I wasn't sure. Regarding the fuse, I'm sure the car has one, but it does not appear

[MBZ] transmissions rolling back.

2005-10-07 Thread John M McIntosh
Sigh, it's always nice when you spouse says, dear the car did a funny thing on me today, so she discovered the hard way, well nothing got damaged or killed, that when she stop the 92 300TDt on the downside of a slight hill by our gate and put it into park, started to get out, the car

[MBZ] question - '96 diesel versus '93 turbodiesel

2005-10-07 Thread Lee Levitt
Another car has potentially come into the mix...the '93 checked out okay, but it also didn't have a couple of things the seller said it did - specifically leather and heated seats. Also did not have ASD, but I expected that. Another car showed up locally, a '95 E300D. Similar mileage (170K),

[MBZ] 124 Vacuum Pump install question

2005-10-07 Thread Theodore Lucas
Hi group! I'm replacing the original vacuum pump on my 1987 300D turbo, 191K miles to prevent any surprises from the old pump. I have the latest Pierburg # 7.20607 (000-230-3165) and a metal gasket, (601 238 07 80). My Mercedes 124 engine maintenance manual does not include the repair. My

Re: [MBZ] transmissions rolling back.

2005-10-07 Thread Gabriel S.
my 87 300d does the same thing on hills...i found it strange at first but i've gotten used to it. On 10/7/05, John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sigh, it's always nice when you spouse says, dear the car did a funny thing on me today, so she discovered the hard way, well nothing got

Re: [MBZ] transmissions rolling back.

2005-10-07 Thread John M McIntosh
So is this normal behaviour? PS I'll note a month back we replaced the transmission mounts, and engine mounts (thanks Rusty) so perhaps the linkages aren't right anymore and the pawl isn't sitting right (I hope), so I've scheduled the dealer to poke at it late next week. Alas my wife's

Re: [MBZ] question - '96 diesel versus '93 turbodiesel

2005-10-07 Thread Mitch Haley
W124 is probably the peak of Mercedes rust prevention, it seems to have gone downhill since. http://www.mbnz.org/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1223281 EPA rated the '96 at 28 city, 35 hwy. '92 was rated 26 city 31 hwy (can't find it in the '93 EPA guide)

Re: [MBZ] transmissions rolling back.

2005-10-07 Thread Kevin
On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 02:44:12PM -0700, Gabriel S. wrote: my 87 300d does the same thing on hills...i found it strange at first but i've gotten used to it. The hill thing has to do with there being a high stall speed in the torque converter, used to offset a 2.65:1 rear end (or thereabouts)

Re: [MBZ] Glow plug come on after starting

2005-10-07 Thread Marshall Booth
J.B. Hebert wrote: Is that value valid for all years? All of the parallel plugs used on Mercedes in the '80 and '90s have a cold resistance of 0.6 ohms. Hot, they may measure almost double that. Earlier series loop plugs measure MUCH lower (maybe 0.05 ohms or a bit lower). Marshall --

Re: [MBZ] Glow plug testing procedure and fuse question

2005-10-07 Thread Marshall Booth
J.B. Hebert wrote: Already planning on pulling the manifold. I don't really see any other way to get good access to them. :( Marshall had noted a value of .6 ohms as being nominal. I assume this is for any parallel plug, but I wasn't sure. Regarding the fuse, I'm sure the car has one,

Re: [MBZ] transmissions rolling back.

2005-10-07 Thread Marshall Booth
John M McIntosh wrote: Sigh, it's always nice when you spouse says, dear the car did a funny thing on me today, so she discovered the hard way, well nothing got damaged or killed, that when she stop the 92 300TDt on the downside of a slight hill by our gate and put it into park, started to

Re: [MBZ] transmissions rolling back.

2005-10-07 Thread Gabriel S.
ya, mine stays put when on park but i hate the sound it makes if you release it from park on a hill, so I keep it with there with the parking brake AND (---ala Marshall) set to park AFTER the brake holds it. On 10/7/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John M McIntosh wrote: Sigh, it's