Re: [MBZ] Ummmm...this is out of control

2006-09-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, Mobile
that does seem quite strange - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] U...this is out of control "Kaleb C. Striplin, Mobile" wrote: thats a good thing, then it gets ne

Re: [MBZ] Ummmm...this is out of control

2006-09-03 Thread Mitch Haley
"Kaleb C. Striplin, Mobile" wrote: > > thats a good thing, then it gets new exhaust, maybe new turbo But why wouldn't a Mercedesshop forum reader have found time to get that done sometime since the recall? He's owned the thing for 10 years. I take it the recall wasn't in place when the first head

Re: [MBZ] Ummmm...this is out of control

2006-09-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, Mobile
thats a good thing, then it gets new exhaust, maybe new turbo - Original Message - From: "Desert Rat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] U...this is out of control Strange how this guy knows all about the

Re: [MBZ] Ummmm...this is out of control

2006-09-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, Mobile
its nice, but not that nice - Original Message - From: "Zeitgeist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 1:54 PM Subject: [MBZ] U...this is out of control I think this is a new all time high bidding war for a 20 year old wagon. http:

[MBZ] Another ridiculous idea

2006-09-03 Thread RELNGSON
> <> > How about an Allison V-12 in a Honda 600? RLE > > > >

Re: [MBZ] Ummmm...this is out of control

2006-09-03 Thread Desert Rat
Strange how this guy knows all about the # 20 head but fails to notice that it has a trap oxidixer. On 9/3/06, Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think this is a new all time high bidding war for a 20 year old wagon. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-Station-Wagon-LOW-MILES-IMMACULATE-DIE

[MBZ] Ummmm...this is out of control

2006-09-03 Thread Zeitgeist
I think this is a new all time high bidding war for a 20 year old wagon. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-Station-Wagon-LOW-MILES-IMMACULATE-DIESEL_W0QQitemZ150026647366 -- Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state" '87 300TD intercooler #22 (218k) '84 300D (216k)

Re: [MBZ] Immediate stall on starting 300E

2006-09-03 Thread Peter Frederick
Even worn valve guides can cause trouble -- not for me, since the head was re-done by a reputable shop at 160,000 and I'm only at 221,000. Peter

Re: [MBZ] 2400?

2006-09-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
He cant tell what a D is Bob Rentfro wrote: http://tinyurl.com/n7frj I'm unfamiliar with a 2400... What a goob Bob Rentfro '77 300D 158K '87 Acura Legend 177K Still waiting on '72 350SL 78K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts se

[MBZ] 2400?

2006-09-03 Thread Bob Rentfro
http://tinyurl.com/n7frj I'm unfamiliar with a 2400... What a goob Bob Rentfro '77 300D 158K '87 Acura Legend 177K Still waiting on '72 350SL 78K Litchfield Park, AZ From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Sep 03 16:40:56 2006 Received: from 70-184-19-116.atlasok.com ([70.184.19.116] helo=[192.168.0.100])

Re: [MBZ] Time for new car

2006-09-03 Thread Bob Rentfro
Mr. J-Hursty brings up a good point: "if i really liked the car, i'd do the heads and just consider it routine maintanence at this point. if i didn't like the car, i'd use it as an excuse to get another one." I think we are spoiled in a way. We believe our cars will last and last and last by p

Re: [MBZ] Time for new car

2006-09-03 Thread Gary Hurst
at 230k miles, the heads were more than ready to be done if not yet done. if i really liked the car, i'd do the heads and just consider it routine maintanence at this point. if i didn't like the car, i'd use it as an excuse to get another one. On 9/2/06, Trampas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To

[MBZ] A Finny Fixer

2006-09-03 Thread Bob Rentfro
Interesting. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/201628487.html Bob Rentfro '77 300D 158K '87 Acura Legend 177K Still waiting on '72 350SL 78K Litchfield Park, AZ From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Sep 03 15:13:46 2006 Received: from mail1.mx.voyager.net ([216.93.66.204]) by server8.arterytc8

Re: [MBZ] eBay 1987 190D 2.5 Turbo

2006-09-03 Thread Mitch Haley
"Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > > how much? Kinda depends on how soon you need it. If you want it AFTER I take the car apart, then I won't budget any labor for it. Sooner would cost more. BTW, if anybody is going to throw away a front strut from a W201, I'd gladly pay shipping from anywhere so I co

Re: [MBZ] Time for new car

2006-09-03 Thread Trampas
Yea it sucks, but it is just a thing. I am glad I have not sold the old 300SD yet... Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 10:06 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Time f

Re: [MBZ] Time for new car

2006-09-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
that sucks. Trampas wrote: It did not run long enough for the oil pressure to come up. Also at the same time another guy in the shop was using an impact wrench thus I could not hear any rattles. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf O

Re: [MBZ] eBay 1987 190D 2.5 Turbo

2006-09-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
how much? Mitch Haley wrote: OK Don wrote: Might be nice for someone - needs a tranny. http://tinyurl.com/fvvb3 I got the tranny, but I'm not driving to VA to pick up a project. 4th gear doesn't sound like a common failure, I wonder if it has a stuck kickdown. If somebody wants a 190Dt tr

Re: [MBZ] what are you smokin'?

2006-09-03 Thread Mike Canfield
Very good point Jim. I guess there probably isn't a diesel that will run quiet enough to "respect" the Rolls tradition of silence. Mike - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 12:10 AM Subject: Re: [M

Re: [MBZ] 300Dt trans

2006-09-03 Thread Alan Duff
Mike: That sounds like low mileage for a bad transmission. You need to find an mechanic that has experience with this type of MB transmission. He will be able to either adjust it for no slips, tell you he can make it some better, or pronounce the tranny is toast. Your run of the mill repair sh

Re: [MBZ] 300Dt trans

2006-09-03 Thread LarryT
David wrote:> Exactly, David! Too many people have a problem with a nice car and instead of spending a few thousand $'s getting it as near perfect as possible they'll spend $15k for a Toyota/Honda and end up with much less car t

Re: [MBZ] Time for new car

2006-09-03 Thread Trampas
It did not run long enough for the oil pressure to come up. Also at the same time another guy in the shop was using an impact wrench thus I could not hear any rattles. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturd

Re: [MBZ] Time for new car

2006-09-03 Thread Trampas
Well for those of you who are not familiar with the 117. You when pulling heads you will have to heil-coil the block, which requires a special tool for making sure you drill the holes correctly. Last I checked the tool was $300. I have an engine with good heads, thus the main cost is the time and

Re: [MBZ] what are you smokin'?

2006-09-03 Thread Mitch Haley
David Brodbeck wrote: > > Depends on your goal -- what image you want to present. Some people > might enjoy the crazy bastard reputation they'd get from driving a Rolls > that was clattering like a UPS truck. I don't think you are going to stuff a B series under an old Rolls' bonnet. IIRC, the e

Re: [MBZ] what are you smokin'?

2006-09-03 Thread David Brodbeck
Jim Cathey wrote: > But _so_ not quiet. Not really a good match for a Rolls I would think. > Depends on your goal -- what image you want to present. Some people might enjoy the crazy bastard reputation they'd get from driving a Rolls that was clattering like a UPS truck. And with all the sou

Re: [MBZ] 300Dt trans

2006-09-03 Thread David Brodbeck
Tom Hargrave wrote: > "Even though the car is in great shape and I love driving it, I know the car > is not worth the price of all the repairs that I could make to it." > > The cost of repairs and maintenance, including a $1800 - $1900 transmission, > are recovered through use of the car & have not

Re: [MBZ] what are you smokin'?

2006-09-03 Thread Jim Cathey
Maybe something like that should have an engine that actually makes power like a Cummins from a Dodge pickup or if length is an issue a 4BT Cummins from a bread van. But _so_ not quiet. Not really a good match for a Rolls I would think. Now, a _new_ Cummins 6BTA is pretty quiet, but a lot har

Re: [MBZ] Time for new car

2006-09-03 Thread Jim Cathey
Seeing that it was a low engine speed incident you may well only require one or two valves. There's a 420 SEL in the U-Pull right now. If it were a local car and I had the time... -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] eBay 1987 190D 2.5 Turbo

2006-09-03 Thread Jim Cathey
Might be nice for someone - needs a tranny. http://tinyurl.com/fvvb3 Might have made a better starter car for that manny tranny I transplanted in. (It's all better now, what with the brake meltdown and all, but it's still on the bench for insurance reasons.) -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] eBay 1987 190D 2.5 Turbo

2006-09-03 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote: > > Might be nice for someone - needs a tranny. > > http://tinyurl.com/fvvb3 I got the tranny, but I'm not driving to VA to pick up a project. 4th gear doesn't sound like a common failure, I wonder if it has a stuck kickdown. If somebody wants a 190Dt tranny, let me know.

Re: [MBZ] "Interesting" odometer reading

2006-09-03 Thread Luther Gulseth
www.odometergears.com Buy the whole set and replace all 4 gears. I know it costs more, but when you install a new gear, it'll ruin the old gear next to it. It's easy to rebuild your Odometer. On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 20:06:36 -0500, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Guess I'll find out soon eno

Re: [MBZ] Time for new car

2006-09-03 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Seeing that it was a low engine speed incident you may well only require one or two valves. Then again while the heads are off you can rebuild the heads, replace the timing chain gear and you have a motor that should go another 200k miles easy. How's the rust and transmission, or do you just wa

Re: [MBZ] Time for new car

2006-09-03 Thread Hendrik Riessen
The vultures are circling. Having spotted the prey, the vulture will keep his distance until sure the carcass is dead. - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Time f

Re: [MBZ] what are you smokin'?

2006-09-03 Thread OK Don
Well, it won;t be a drop-in. At the very least you'll have to power the dual hydraulic pump for the braking system --- > > I want to put a GMC 6.2 diesel in a Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow! Since > the 6.2 uses the same motor mounts as a mouse motor, and there are > already turnkey Chevy small-bloc

Re: [MBZ] 'Burb Benz Package Deal $700

2006-09-03 Thread Mike Canfield
I agree. I think the old Ford diesel would get better mileage than the Ranger as well. Loaded or empty that 4 liter Ranger sucks on gas. I thought about riding my DR650 out and just renting a U-haul trailer to get it all backI think I'll spend the money for the rental on fuel instead and

Re: [MBZ] what are you smokin'?

2006-09-03 Thread Mike Canfield
Maybe something like that should have an engine that actually makes power like a Cummins from a Dodge pickup or if length is an issue a 4BT Cummins from a bread van. Mike - Original Message - From: "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday,

Re: [MBZ] what are you smokin'?

2006-09-03 Thread Mike Canfield
You sure about the mounts? The 6.2 is not a Chebbie block and likely uses the same mounts as a Buick, Olds or Pontiac. Mike - Original Message - From: "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] 'Burb Benz Package Deal $700

2006-09-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
its better to have 2 vehicles that can tow, just in case. Mike Canfield wrote: Towing my trailer out with my friends Ranger and back with the Burb. Or I may borrow another friends diesel pickup to tow the trailer out and just drive the Burb back empty. I like that idea better. Mike - O

Re: [MBZ] what are you smokin'?

2006-09-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 9/2/06, Mike Canfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sounds like fun...How about a Beetle with a Toronado transaxle and a 6.2 diesel? Mid engine V8 Beetles are a blast! I want to put a GMC 6.2 diesel in a Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow! Since the 6.2 uses the same motor mounts as a mouse motor

Re: [MBZ] 'Burb Benz Package Deal $700

2006-09-03 Thread Mike Canfield
Towing my trailer out with my friends Ranger and back with the Burb. Or I may borrow another friends diesel pickup to tow the trailer out and just drive the Burb back empty. I like that idea better. Mike - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercede

Re: [MBZ] Time for new car

2006-09-03 Thread Tom Hargrave
Looks like another Mercedes for Kaleb Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 8:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tim

Re: [MBZ] Time for new car

2006-09-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
WEll, they usually rattle for quite a while for a second or 2 at startup before the break. Got to observe what its telling you. What year is it? Where is it located? Trampas wrote: Today I went and changed the oil on my 420SEL. After oil change, I cranked up the car and it ran for about 5-

Re: [MBZ] 'Burb Benz Package Deal $700

2006-09-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
what are you going to tow it on, does it come with a trailer also? Those 6.2's are great rigs. Mike Canfield wrote: Thanks Kevin, Just waiting on him to call me back again with his address to send money. Supposed to be a rust free 84 4x4 Burban..I hope so. 1100 miles towing a Benz in

[MBZ] anybody want a cheap diesel burb?

2006-09-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Saw one in the paper here, for $600 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] 300Dt trans

2006-09-03 Thread Tom Hargrave
"Even though the car is in great shape and I love driving it, I know the car is not worth the price of all the repairs that I could make to it." The cost of repairs and maintenance, including a $1800 - $1900 transmission, are recovered through use of the car & have nothing to do with the market pr

Re: [MBZ] Immediate stall on starting 300E

2006-09-03 Thread David Brodbeck
Peter Frederick wrote: > A note for those suffering from hard starts hot on KE-Jet engines > (especially the 300E) -- check the boot between the fuel distributor > and the throttle body! > > Mine was slightly loose, allowing air to leak in. Along with the split > idle control valve hose that I

Re: [MBZ] 300Dt trans

2006-09-03 Thread Mnetzky1
Alan There are 187,000 miles on the car. I'm not the original owner so I don't know what has been done before I got it. I got it 40,000 miles ago. The fluid/filter was changed/flushed very recently. The mechanic said he adjusted "something." It seemed to have changed the shift patter

Re: [MBZ] "Interesting" odometer reading

2006-09-03 Thread OK Don
Guess I'll find out soon enough - mine stopped turning (odo that is). On 9/2/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> that is the first electronic Speedo I have seen on a mb. >> Any 126 has an electronic speedo. > With a mechanical odo. Driven by a stepper (or some such) motor, there is no

[MBZ] eBay 1987 190D 2.5 Turbo

2006-09-03 Thread OK Don
Might be nice for someone - needs a tranny. http://tinyurl.com/fvvb3 No association, etc. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives." Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand V