Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D

2010-08-06 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Allan Streib wrote: > >> Yeah, a 1.5 liter, 50 hp VW diesel of that era is just not a robust >> engine when you're asking it pull around a 4100 lb vehicle. > > Don't you mean 'push'? > My parents drove one of the early 30-hp Microbuses all thro

Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls

2010-08-06 Thread Peter Frederick
The presence of the parts in the manual does not preclude it being a dealer installed option, it just means it's official Benz. All the AC stuff was made in the US, after all, why ship it to Germany and back again? They all look the same because they are official Benz parts, installed by

Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D

2010-08-06 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: Yeah, a 1.5 liter, 50 hp VW diesel of that era is just not a robust engine when you're asking it pull around a 4100 lb vehicle. Don't you mean 'push'? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To s

Re: [MBZ] ML320, 2001

2010-08-06 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Well I must be used to driving recirc ball but seem to remember the last time I drove a rack and peanut set up, it just did not feel the same. Hendrik who only has recirculating balls Mountain Man wrote: Hendrik wrote: My theory is that the rack and pinion steering in the more modern Mercs

Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D

2010-08-06 Thread Allan Streib
Mitch Haley writes: >> That's right Curt, Back in the 50's my father drove Mack diesels over >> the road-he has always said to me about diesels- 'drive it as if you >> stole it'. At 89 he still tells me that. > > But if you do it to a Vanagon it blows up? Yeah, a 1.5 liter, 50 hp VW diesel of th

Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls

2010-08-06 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 14:37:37 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > Besides, the whole system is right there in the EPC. The clincher. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.co

Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D

2010-08-06 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Must not be a REAL diesel then? Don't know -I have blown up a couple VW gassers of the 60's and 70's. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  1990 300D 2.5t 182K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz

Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D

2010-08-06 Thread Mitch Haley
Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: That's right Curt, Back in the 50's my father drove Mack diesels over the road-he has always said to me about diesels- 'drive it as if you stole it'. At 89 he still tells me that. But if you do it to a Vanagon it blows up? Mitch. _

Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D

2010-08-06 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
That's right Curt, Back in the 50's my father drove Mack diesels over the road-he has always said to me about diesels- 'drive it as if you stole it'. At 89 he still tells me that. Dwight Giles Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  1990 300D 2.5t 182K miles. Wickford, RI -

Re: [MBZ] ML320, 2001

2010-08-06 Thread OK Don
I've always associated rack and pinoin with greater feedback or road feel than recirculating ball, but then, I was comparing an MG with a 220D. Probably more weight related than how the front wheels are turned. On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: > FWD is very different on ice

Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls

2010-08-06 Thread Peter Frederick
W115/114 /8 was introduced in 1968, and the AC was indeed installed at the dealer. Lots of stories about saving time by bending back (and breaking) the sides of the console to shove the bits in without pulling it as they were supposed to, leading to failures later. All MBs were station bu

Re: [MBZ] ML320, 2001

2010-08-06 Thread Peter Frederick
FWD is very different on ice and snow -- slides at right angles to the front wheels. Very predictable, but VERY different. I don't see how there is a difference between recirculating ball and rack and pinion steering -- both systems move the wheels . Unless the RB is variable ratio like G

Re: [MBZ] factory yes

2010-08-06 Thread Peter Frederick
The W116 had factory installed CLIMATE CONTROL, not manual AC Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okie

Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D

2010-08-06 Thread LWB250
Yeah, it's called "excise tax." Along with county "wheel tax," etc., etc. Amazingly, it's less than it used to be, at least the way I recall it. There are (legal) ways around this, too. I just bought my son's car last month and only paid $41.00 to put it on the road (not including the 7% sales

Re: [MBZ] Radio removal tools for '95 124

2010-08-06 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > this is what you need > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AUDI-VW-MERCEDES-STEREO-RADIO-REMOVAL-TOOLS-SET-KEY-/390224088137?pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools > Thanks for the link, Kaleb. I am as cheap as anyone else here, but $2.50 including

Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D

2010-08-06 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: In Indiana, to transfer title you pay sales tax based on the bill of sale or stated sale price. You also pay a yearly tax based on the value of the vehicle (determined by vehicle model and age, not sale price) which is part of the yearly registration renewal. Same here in

Re: [MBZ] Radio removal tools for '95 124

2010-08-06 Thread Rich Thomas
I'll have to provide you a few more money-saving ideas so you can buy me that lunch --R On 8/6/2010 12:49 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: I do believe you are correct, after looking at the picture and the diagram in the FSM. If I'm successful, the $10 you've sa

Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D

2010-08-06 Thread Allan Streib
"j...@windwireless.net" writes: >>"The DMV won't believe you got it for less than $7500." >>Yes, I've heard that WA state DMV has certain revenue enhancement > procedures in >>place. Perhaps Mr. Cathey (or Gump's owner) could elaborate. > > Yes, a bill of sale is not adequate to establish value

Re: [MBZ] York AC Compressors

2010-08-06 Thread Rusty Cullens
Yup Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: "R A Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 3:47 PM Subject:

Re: [MBZ] York AC Compressors

2010-08-06 Thread E M
I know a lot of guys pulled the old York's off their porsches, and updated them. Probably other makes and models too, so i would imagine lots of rebuildable cores out there. $200 for a rebuilt one sounds like a pretty good deal. Ed 300E On 6 August 2010 15:47, R A Bennell wrote: > That is not

Re: [MBZ] York AC Compressors

2010-08-06 Thread R A Bennell
That is not bad at all. What else would I need? Receiver -dryer about it? Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 1:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Yor

Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls

2010-08-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, I have dealers we service right now that have those cars with no AC at all in them. In fact, there is even a cobalt that does not have AC. I do not know about the add on kit but it would not surprise me. Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Even now there are aveos available wit

Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls

2010-08-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Every 115 I have seen has the same deal, identical. If it was dealer installed, I would think you could tell, and it would be just a little different on each one. Besides, the whole system is right there in the EPC. R A Bennell wrote: I believe my 76 300D AC is factory. As Kaleb said, the wh

Re: [MBZ] York AC Compressors

2010-08-06 Thread Rusty Cullens
I have new for $295 or reman for $195 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: "R A Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday,

Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls

2010-08-06 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Even now there are aveos available with no ac, no cruise, no nothing. But are there still trim packages that don't have the option of A/C? And do they sell a dealer installable A/C kit for those trim levels? I had no idea what the present situation is, I just thought i

Re: [MBZ] York AC Compressors

2010-08-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
It seems like I remember the deal with those being there was some valve in there that would stick open so it would not compress. R A Bennell wrote: So, all this talk of AC in 115's has me thinking about repairing mine. Anyone know if the York is repairable? Parts available?? I don't think my

Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls

2010-08-06 Thread R A Bennell
I believe my 76 300D AC is factory. As Kaleb said, the whole thing is sort of an add-on to the systems in the car but it does not look like they had to patch it in somehow. I believe it has always been there. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-

[MBZ] York AC Compressors

2010-08-06 Thread R A Bennell
So, all this talk of AC in 115's has me thinking about repairing mine. Anyone know if the York is repairable? Parts available?? I don't think my AC leaks but the compressor does not appear to compress. The clutch kicks in and the auxiliary fan kicks in but the air does not blow ice cold (or even

Re: [MBZ] Radio removal tools for '95 124

2010-08-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
this is what you need http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AUDI-VW-MERCEDES-STEREO-RADIO-REMOVAL-TOOLS-SET-KEY-/390224088137?pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Anyone have the special keys for releasing the radio in my '95 E300? FSM calls them 'removal

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 sale

2010-08-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
thats why I just gave up and use dino oil. Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: NAPA (at least here) has M1 on sale for $5.79/qt until the end of the month. No jugs, but I found some 15w-50. Our local evil W mart doesn't seem to have 15w-50 in jugs anymore either. FWIW Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr

Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls

2010-08-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Even now there are aveos available with no ac, no cruise, no nothing. Mitch Haley wrote: Craig McCluskey wrote: Yes, what he said. No way would a dealer go to all the trouble to install the A/C in a '72 220D/8 like ours and have it look entirely like it really belonged there. A few years

Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls

2010-08-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Im sure the 60's cars had dealer installed air, Im talking about the later run 115's, those were factory (mid 70's). It appears to me that the chassis was probably not originally designed with ac in mind but all my info points to factory installed air on those. Peter Frederick wrote: Sorry b

Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D

2010-08-06 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:06 AM, WILTON wrote: > So, what's the e-mail address of the guy with the "slow" 240D; I'm wondering > if he still has it. > sale-ycxb3-1875715...@craigslist.org ---until the ad expires and he posts a new one with a more reasonable price (though that doesn't seem likely

Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D

2010-08-06 Thread WILTON
So, what's the e-mail address of the guy with the "slow" 240D; I'm wondering if he still has it. Wilton - Original Message - From: "WILTON" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D I could do that, too. We could start

Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D

2010-08-06 Thread WILTON
I could do that, too. We could start a corp. or something; you do the North part; I'll do the South part. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" To: "Diesel List" Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D Translation: The engine is all ca

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-06 Thread Van Knutson
"E M" pokieba...@gmail.com  wrote:   I'm in Ontario.  While smoking isn't good for you, I doubt very much the odd cigar will have any negative effect on longevity what so ever.  As you say, in moderation, it's all part of enjoying life. I'm pretty sure cigars, or any tobacco products, are no

Re: [MBZ] Now Here's Something Worth Fighting About

2010-08-06 Thread E M
I waiting for the caption in the paper once the trial is over, "It Was a Hard Won Case For the Teachers" hee hee Ed 300E On 6 August 2010 13:23, Craig McCluskey wrote: > On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 07:50:24 -0700 (PDT) LWB250 wrote: > > > Ya gotta love it. Nearly 600 teachers laid off, and the union

Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls

2010-08-06 Thread Bob Rentfro
I know I've seen mid 60's 200 Series On Aug 6, 2010 10:15 AM, "Craig McCluskey" wrote: On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 23:09:12 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Peter Frederick wrote: > Sorry... I'm talking 1972. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go t...

Re: [MBZ] Now Here's Something Worth Fighting About

2010-08-06 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 07:50:24 -0700 (PDT) LWB250 wrote: > Ya gotta love it. Nearly 600 teachers laid off, and the union is > fighting for this: > > http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_MILWAUKEE_TEACHERS_VIAGRA?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=US It does make you wonder what their priorities are Cr

Re: [MBZ] Now Here's Something Worth Fighting About

2010-08-06 Thread E M
I got the subject line, "Here's something worth fighting about" Ed 300E On 6 August 2010 12:53, Mountain Man wrote: > Ed wrote: > > It could be argued the > > decision effects women too. > > DBV - tell us if this is true? > I see subject line in my spam folder - female viagra? > I have zero in

Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls

2010-08-06 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 23:09:12 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Peter Frederick wrote: > Sorry boys, I've talked to the guy who used to run the local Benz > dealer in those days. Dealer installed. Remember, we are talking > about the 60's here. I'm talking 1972. Craig ___

Re: [MBZ] ML320, 2001

2010-08-06 Thread Mountain Man
Hendrik wrote: > My theory is that the rack and pinion steering in the more modern Mercs is > what causes the lack of soul. > with no SUVs but used to have a real 4x4 > An interesting concept. So, you like the recirc ball steering system better? It would be interesting to drive two similarly size

Re: [MBZ] Now Here's Something Worth Fighting About

2010-08-06 Thread Mountain Man
Ed wrote: > It could be argued the > decision effects women too. DBV - tell us if this is true? I see subject line in my spam folder - female viagra? I have zero interest in spam or female viagra, so on two counts, zero items in the spam folder get seen, except if google mail has put an item in th

Re: [MBZ] Radio removal tools for '95 124

2010-08-06 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
I do believe you are correct, after looking at the picture and the diagram in the FSM. If I'm successful, the $10 you've saved me will go into the kitty for the lunch I owe you... -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf

Re: [MBZ] Now Here's Something Worth Fighting About

2010-08-06 Thread E M
I guess with all the extra time on their hands, now that they're laid off, they want to ensure a good supply of their pills to help pass the time. Lawyers really do try their best these days, to attach discrimination to pretty much any and every case they can, don't they. It could be argued the d

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 sale

2010-08-06 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Yep, just cleaned out the NAPA next to work, 15 qts of M1 0w-40, will hold me for about 4 months. Guy at the counter thinks this sale will last until the end of the month, so if they re-stock I'll hit'em again. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:merced

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 sale

2010-08-06 Thread Curt Raymond
Good price, wish I had a NAPA handy. I wonder if I can get the 'Zone to match it? I'll be doing an oil change on the '78 tomorrow so we'll be able to match that against the fixed odo which I'll also be doing tomorrow... -Curt Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 07:47:27 -0400 From: "Dwight E. Giles, Jr" To

Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls

2010-08-06 Thread Curt Raymond
How does the York in the early 123 compare? I like the look of the compressor up right where you can get at it... -Curt Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 21:59:24 -0500 From: Peter Frederick To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls Message-ID: <13856bcf-fab7-4964-bdd8-8f7

Re: [MBZ] Speaking of old diesel VWs...

2010-08-06 Thread Curt Raymond
Thats a great price on the Rabbit, a $50 roller paint job and it'd be a pretty good ride. It seems to me like 80% of old Rabbits have the red interior... -Curt Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 19:05:13 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Speaking of old diesel VWs...

Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D

2010-08-06 Thread Curt Raymond
Translation: The engine is all carboned up and I expect it to stay that way. An Italian tune up takes DAYS to work its magic. I've been driving Dwight's '78 240D hard on my 60 mile daily commute. Its opened up a LOT in the last 4 days, hardly the same car now. Much more peppy, starts easier, idl

Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D

2010-08-06 Thread j...@windwireless.net
>"The DMV won't believe you got it for less than $7500." >Yes, I've heard that WA state DMV has certain revenue enhancement procedures in >place. Perhaps Mr. Cathey (or Gump's owner) could elaborate. Yes, a bill of sale is not adequate to establish value. The DMV has a form that you both sign

Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls

2010-08-06 Thread Tim C
Sure the seats aren't out of a Camry or Volvo or something? Remind me of my V70. I've got a legit 115 rear seat. And two fronts, but Kaleb has called the seat bottoms already, if he'll tell me where to send them. And carpets and the rest of the interior, for a short time... so if someone buys t

[MBZ] Now Here's Something Worth Fighting About

2010-08-06 Thread LWB250
Ya gotta love it. Nearly 600 teachers laid off, and the union is fighting for this: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_MILWAUKEE_TEACHERS_VIAGRA?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=US Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.

Re: [MBZ] Radio removal tools for '95 124

2010-08-06 Thread Rich Thomas
You can make some out of some sheet metal scraps in about 2 min. --R On 8/6/2010 10:20 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Doesn't look like that would work, but I found them on Sam Stag's website for $9.99, which means that MB probably sells them for $3. http://www.sam

Re: [MBZ] Radio removal tools for '95 124

2010-08-06 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Doesn't look like that would work, but I found them on Sam Stag's website for $9.99, which means that MB probably sells them for $3. http://www.samstagsales.com/mercedes.htm#radio look under radio for the Becker tool, click on picture link on right side. Looks like the part number has changed, no

Re: [MBZ] Radio removal tools for '95 124

2010-08-06 Thread Rich Thomas
If that is a standard DIN mount, then all you need is a couple of flat pieces of metal to slide in and release the tabs on the mounting bracket that hold the radio in, then pull the radio out. I have dozens of the things around somewhere, they come with new units. Something about 1/4 wide and

[MBZ] Radio removal tools for '95 124

2010-08-06 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Anyone have the special keys for releasing the radio in my '95 E300? FSM calls them 'removal plates' special tool 000 833 03 61. Rusty - can you get these and what price? Sadly, my car got water inside while the windshield was out, and now the radio is dead. I'm hoping that it is the 3 amp fuse

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 sale

2010-08-06 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Yesterday I tried to use Wal-Mart's website to order oil for in-store pick-up, but the only automotive stuff offered seems to be tires and GPS. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dwight E. Giles, Jr Sent: Friday

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 sale

2010-08-06 Thread Mitch Haley
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: I'll have to check out our local NAPA stores, I still haven't found a decent source/price since Wal-Mart dropped it. I haven't bought it at WalMart since the last time I saw it for $19.88/5 qt about three years ago. Lately I've been payin

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 sale

2010-08-06 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
I'll have to check out our local NAPA stores, I still haven't found a decent source/price since Wal-Mart dropped it. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dwight E. Giles, Jr Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 7:47 AM T

[MBZ] Mobil 1 sale

2010-08-06 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
NAPA (at least here) has M1 on sale for $5.79/qt until the end of the month. No jugs, but I found some 15w-50. Our local evil W mart doesn't seem to have 15w-50 in jugs anymore either. FWIW Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 182K miles. Wickford

Re: [MBZ] extra-slow 240D

2010-08-06 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Yes, that's right. I used to cruise my 79 240D slush at 80-85 on I 95 all the time-I always said it was a good mid lane car-the OM 602 turbo is fast lane car. Now entrance ramps on an incline are another matter-the stick 240D handles those quiet well. All 240D's require a bit of skill and a basic

Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls

2010-08-06 Thread Mitch Haley
Craig McCluskey wrote: Yes, what he said. No way would a dealer go to all the trouble to install the A/C in a '72 220D/8 like ours and have it look entirely like it really belonged there. A few years ago, the Special Value Chevy Aveo was a $1 car with no factory options (which sold for as