Re: [MBZ] It's home now

2011-10-21 Thread Craig
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 21:55:29 -0400 Mitch Haley wrote: > I'm still shocked that they'd let you keep it for less than half the > meltdown value. I was astounded by the number, too. I asked about it saying, "You mean the salvage value is $171?" The lady said that's what they (people from a differen

Re: [MBZ] It's home now

2011-10-21 Thread WILTON
Aircraft mechanic's motto: If it won't go, get a bigger hammer. ;<))) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] It's home now Sounds like it's good to go. Who needs a body shop? --R

Re: [MBZ] It's home now

2011-10-21 Thread Rich Thomas
There is a fairly nice 300E sitting at the mech up the road, has been there for quite some time, some sort of engine trouble I think. Probably get a good deal on it. --R On 10/21/11 10:32 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Now I think you need t

Re: [MBZ] It's home now

2011-10-21 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Now I think you need to find a rustfree 123 chassis and stick your > $170 V8 drivetrain in it. Probably easier to find a 300E with a bad head gasket, and certainly an easier swap. Alex ___ http://www.okieb

Re: [MBZ] It's home now

2011-10-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Craig wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 17:12:43 -0400 Mitch Haley wrote: Better yet, a chargeable crash on Shirley's CLUE report. CLUE report? http://oci.wi.gov/pub_list/pi-207.htm Why is that better? Perhaps I should have said 'it gets worse'? > Other than the right side of the front bum

Re: [MBZ] It's home now

2011-10-21 Thread Rick Knoble
> Craig wrote; > >> Better yet, a chargeable crash on Shirley's CLUE report. > > CLUE report? Why is that better?1 It's not. He is using irony/sarcasm. CLUE stands for Comprehensive Loss Underwriting Exchange report. Shared information about your insurance history, much like a credit report

Re: [MBZ] It's home now

2011-10-21 Thread Craig
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 19:41:30 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > So it drove home under it's own power. Can't be that bad Other than the right side of the front bumper, the air dam, and the right front suspension, it's just fine. Craig ___ http://www.okieben

Re: [MBZ] It's home now

2011-10-21 Thread Craig
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 17:12:43 -0400 Mitch Haley wrote: > Randy Bennell wrote: > > > Unfortunately, you also get an insurance claim out of the deal. > > Better yet, a chargeable crash on Shirley's CLUE report. CLUE report? Why is that better? Craig ___ http

Re: [MBZ] It's home now

2011-10-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So it drove home under it's own power. Can't be that bad Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21, 2011, at 3:50 PM, Craig wrote: > On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 11:36:37 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" > wrote: > >> How much to buy it back? > > $170.72 > > >> Surely it can be fixed fairly easily > > Not according

Re: [MBZ] OT - Water Softener?

2011-10-21 Thread Rich Thomas
I do in the summer, sometimes more. --R On 10/21/11 5:47 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: very few people drink a gallon of tap water in a day. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/a

Re: [MBZ] OT - Water Softener?

2011-10-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Craig wrote: I thought it was a significant contribution. I stand corrected. Significant with respect to the recommended daily allowance? Hmm, maybe I should at least attempt to do the math. Grains of hardness is grains of calcium per gallon of water, isn't it? Since 23 grains of sodium di

Re: [MBZ] Citric H+

2011-10-21 Thread Max
That's what I used this summer. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD glenn brown wrote: For what this is worth, this may be a convenient source of citric acid for your coolant system cleaning/flushing: http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1366801&kw=citric+acid&

Re: [MBZ] OT - Water Softener?

2011-10-21 Thread Craig
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 17:04:11 -0400 Mitch Haley wrote: > 1. I drink unsoftened water from a separate tap, doesn't everybody? Since I have never had a softener, I didn't think about that. Of course, it depends on how your house is plumbed. > 2. The sodium in a gallon of water from an ion exchang

Re: [MBZ] It's home now

2011-10-21 Thread Rich Thomas
Sounds like it's good to go. Who needs a body shop? --R On 10/21/11 4:50 PM, Craig wrote: So I pulled off the road in the industrial area, pulled out the 2 pound hammer I brought along, banged off the plastic panels on the outside of the body just behind the right front wheel well, and then ba

Re: [MBZ] It's home now

2011-10-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Randy Bennell wrote: Unfortunately, you also get an insurance claim out of the deal. Better yet, a chargeable crash on Shirley's CLUE report. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://ww

Re: [MBZ] It's home now

2011-10-21 Thread Randy Bennell
On 21/10/2011 4:08 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Craig wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 11:36:37 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: How much to buy it back? $170.72 So if you take their settlement offer, you get what you were going to ask for the car, plus you get to keep the car? Unfortunately, you

Re: [MBZ] OT - Water Softener?

2011-10-21 Thread Randy Bennell
On 21/10/2011 4:04 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Craig wrote: It WILL raise you blood sodium level because of the salt in the softened water. If that's not a medical problem for you, have at it. 1. I drink unsoftened water from a separate tap, doesn't everybody? 2. The sodium in a gallon of water fr

Re: [MBZ] It's home now

2011-10-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Craig wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 11:36:37 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: How much to buy it back? $170.72 So if you take their settlement offer, you get what you were going to ask for the car, plus you get to keep the car? I don't see why you would remove the engine to swap the subfra

Re: [MBZ] OT - Water Softener?

2011-10-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Craig wrote: It WILL raise you blood sodium level because of the salt in the softened water. If that's not a medical problem for you, have at it. 1. I drink unsoftened water from a separate tap, doesn't everybody? 2. The sodium in a gallon of water from an ion exchange softener is less than t

Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sin binned

2011-10-21 Thread Dieselhead
If it was MBUSI, then DOJ has a say, because it is a "US COMPANY" I can see where they would have to make certain "accommodations" to get ML, R and other US made vehicles into the eastern bloc countries. The WSJ report said the company was operating with extreme sensitivity to proper expen

Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it

2011-10-21 Thread Craig
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 07:30:55 -0400 Mitch Haley wrote: > Is $3778 the car's replacement value, or the check they'll write after > deductible? The check they will write after the deductible. Thanks for pointing that out; I had forgotten about it. That would make their offer $4028. Craig _

[MBZ] It's home now

2011-10-21 Thread Craig
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 11:36:37 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > How much to buy it back? $170.72 > Surely it can be fixed fairly easily Not according to the body shop. The fellow had his assistant raise the right front on a jack and showed me that the attachment for the right lower control ar

Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sin binned

2011-10-21 Thread Peter Hertzing
That about covers it. And these foreign bribes are significantly different then meals, trips and campaign donations by Political actions committees who would never consider trying to influence a member of government with said gifts. Just Saying. On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Mitch Haley wro

Re: [MBZ] OT - Water Softener?

2011-10-21 Thread Craig
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 14:22:18 -0400 Dan Penoff wrote: > It appears to be working. The city water here isn't that hard, so I > can't really tell a difference. Guess it can't hurt anything... > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okie

Re: [MBZ] Citric H+

2011-10-21 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:07 PM, glenn brown wrote: > > For what this is worth, this may be a convenient source of citric acid for > your coolant system cleaning/flushing: > http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1366801&kw=citric+acid&origkw=citric+acid&searchId=53106054424 > L

Re: [MBZ] OT Airplane pr0n

2011-10-21 Thread Craig
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:08:06 -0400 "WILTON" wrote: > Amazing how the tail (empennage) surfaces still look like a B-47 of mid > to late 40's design. True, but the wings certainly do not! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okie

Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sinned

2011-10-21 Thread Rich Thomas
I went to Tokyo once with a coupla colleagues, one night they decided they wanted some booze so we all went looking fo a likka sto, bought some Jack Daniels that ended up being cheaper than it was back home in Taxachussetts. Go figure. --R On 10/21/11 2:25 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: A common pra

[MBZ] Citric H+

2011-10-21 Thread glenn brown
For what this is worth, this may be a convenient source of citric acid for your coolant system cleaning/flushing: http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1366801&kw=citric+acid&origkw=citric+acid&searchId=53106054424 G. M. Brown Brevard, NC

[MBZ] Following GPS directions....

2011-10-21 Thread RELNGSON
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-15358886 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/ma

[MBZ] MB to produce another model at Tuscaloosa

2011-10-21 Thread RELNGSON
Daimler has said that it will further expand its US plant in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. From 2015, an entirely new - unidentified - Mercedes-Benz model will roll off the production line as its fifth product. The plant has been the traditional production site of the brand's M-, GL-, and R-Class SUVs a

Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sinned

2011-10-21 Thread Dan Penoff
A common practice in many countries, too, and just second or third world ones. In many Asian countries it is not uncommon for the "guest" to bring a "gift" for the host. When I did business in Japan I kept my local liquor store quite busy stocking Johnny Walker Black for my trips. Dan Sent fr

Re: [MBZ] OT - Water Softener?

2011-10-21 Thread Dan Penoff
Thanks, Rich. Pretty much what I figured, just odd that there are no manufacturer's information on either the timer or valve. It appears to be working. The city water here isn't that hard, so I can't really tell a difference. Guess it can't hurt anything... Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21,

Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it

2011-10-21 Thread Dan Penoff
Didn't know that. I just assumed they were both done by the NADA. Learn something new every day... Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21, 2011, at 12:51 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > http://www.blackbookusa.com/ > > http://www.nadaguides.com/ > > 2 different companies > > Sent from my iPhon

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn fuel leak - W123 300TD main fuel filter housing

2011-10-21 Thread Max
Also, new washers/O-rings would be a good idea. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Max wrote: Find a used one that's not cracked. Local pick-n-pull, remove yourself and you'll be trained to install it. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD andrew strasfogel wrote: Ma

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn fuel leak - W123 300TD main fuel filter housing

2011-10-21 Thread Max
Find a used one that's not cracked. Local pick-n-pull, remove yourself and you'll be trained to install it. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD andrew strasfogel wrote: Max, I may not have stretched the bolt BUT there is a hairline crack in the side of the aluminum housing of the f

Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it

2011-10-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://www.blackbookusa.com/ http://www.nadaguides.com/ 2 different companies Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: >> Nada and Black Book are 2 different things/companies. > > What do they call the NADA 'Collector's Car Guide'? > >

Re: [MBZ] OT - Water Softener?

2011-10-21 Thread Rich Thomas
I had one of those sitting next to the old well pump, and took it out and took it apart to see how it worked. The tank was heavy as hell with the stuff (the little balls that collect the nasty stuff and water in it), and the salt bin was just like a big plastic trash can with some piping, and

Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it

2011-10-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Nada and Black Book are 2 different things/companies. What do they call the NADA 'Collector's Car Guide'? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/arc

Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it

2011-10-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Nada and Black Book are 2 different things/companies. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21, 2011, at 10:12 AM, LWB250 wrote: > Yes, banks can also subscribe to the NADA Black Book. > > My dad had them around when he worked for GMAC, which was nice. Don't know > what a subscription costs, but I'm su

Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it

2011-10-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
How much to buy it back? Surely it can be fixed fairly easily Sent from my iPhone On Oct 20, 2011, at 11:40 PM, Craig wrote: > I called my insurance company today and found out they are going to total > our '94 E420. I'm planning on buying it back and bringing it home so I can > get some parts

Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sinned

2011-10-21 Thread rogerhga
Allan, Jim, I worked for an oil company in the 70's when our gov't passed a law making it illegal to bribe foreign officials in order to get business. This oil company ran afoul of the law for bribing the oil minister in Nigeria to do business. Now if anyone cared to look, you didn't do busines

Re: [MBZ] OT Airplane pr0n

2011-10-21 Thread WILTON
Amazing how the tail (empennage) surfaces still look like a B-47 of mid to late 40's design. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 9:53 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT Airplane pr0n http://www.wired.com/autopia/2011/10/

Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it

2011-10-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: Is this also the book the banks use to decide if they will make a loan on a particular car? My local credit union will let members use their "book" to see what cars are worth. My CU has the yellow book subscription, but those only go back 8 years. Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn fuel leak - W123 300TD main fuel filter housing

2011-10-21 Thread andrew strasfogel
Max, I may not have stretched the bolt BUT there is a hairline crack in the side of the aluminum housing of the fuel filter assembly!! Assuming this is the source of the leak, what's involved in replacing it? Rusty - is the 1985 assembly different from the 1983? Andrew On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 3:

Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it

2011-10-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Craig wrote: What were you going to try to sell it for? $3500 Sounds like you're all set. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sin binned

2011-10-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: The WSJ report said the company was operating with extreme sensitivity to proper expense accounting after reaching a truce of sorts with the USA over bribes paid in eastern europe. Why the USA would care, or have any authority over MB paying bribes in eastern europe was not

Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it

2011-10-21 Thread Craig
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 07:39:23 -0400 Mitch Haley wrote: > Maybe you can replace it for $3500. OTOH, you had that car pretty much > sorted out, and anything you buy to replace it will likely need some > money and time thrown into it. That's a good point, but the one to replace it is the '95 E320 I

Re: [MBZ] CL laugh of the day

2011-10-21 Thread andrew strasfogel
I think what is particularly hilarious is the typo "Also comes with aluminum *alloid *stock rims" when he clearly meant to write that it "... comes with aluminum *Altoid* stock rims.". On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 5:07 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Re: [MBZ] OT - Water Softener?

2011-10-21 Thread Craig
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 08:09:58 -0700 (PDT) LWB250 wrote: > http://gallery.me.com/dpenoff#100298 > > If anyone can identify this thing I would appreciate it.  When I have > time (ha!) I may crack open the timer box and see if there is anything > in there that might identify the maker. It's a water

Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it

2011-10-21 Thread LWB250
Yes, banks can also subscribe to the NADA Black Book. My dad had them around when he worked for GMAC, which was nice.  Don't know what a subscription costs, but I'm sure they're not cheap.  I believe they were updated every couple of weeks, too. Dan From: Al

[MBZ] OT - Water Softener?

2011-10-21 Thread LWB250
http://gallery.me.com/dpenoff#100298 Got this device in my new house which has absolutely (and I mean it!) no identifying information on it anywhere.  I have been over every square inch of it, and not a manufacturer's name, model number, nada. I am assuming it's a water softener, as it has a t

Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it

2011-10-21 Thread Allan Streib
Dan Penoff writes: > NADA is the only real reference out there. I always love looking at > Kelley BB, as the trade in values obviously benefit the dealer as do > the resale prices KBB is funny... their dealer retail prices only show the values for cars in "excellent" condition as if deal

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: MB's US CEO canned/sin binned

2011-10-21 Thread Jim Cathey
Why the USA would care, or have any authority over MB paying bribes in eastern europe was not clear to me. Latest business fad, I'd guess. Our company is making all kinds of noise about their new anti-bribery policy, etc... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.

Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it

2011-10-21 Thread Allan Streib
Jaime Kopchinski writes: > Its interesting how high the estimate was for really minor damage. Insurance companies will start getting nervous once the estimate gets above 50% of the vehicle value. They know if it was hit that hard there is often hidden damage that is not evident until repairs ar

Re: [MBZ] CL laugh of the day

2011-10-21 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 5:07 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: > http://saginaw.craigslist.org/cto/2649961777.html > Wonder how they got the 2008 rims on there. I thought the bolt size changed (12 mm to 14 mm, something like that?) in the 2000s, and the offset is surely wrong. Alex __

Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it

2011-10-21 Thread Allan Streib
Dan Penoff writes: > NADA Black Book is the one to have. A dealer only subscription > service, it is very accurate, especially on a local market basis. Is this also the book the banks use to decide if they will make a loan on a particular car? My local credit union will let members use their "b

Re: [MBZ] MB's US CEO canned/sin binned

2011-10-21 Thread Allan Streib
Hendrik & Fay writes: > And why would Daimler remove someone who is good at their job and may > be hard to replace, they could have asked Lieb to refund the money and > given him a stern talking to, unless he was warned to be very careful > in regards to using company funds. The WSJ report said

Re: [MBZ] CL laugh of the day

2011-10-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Michael Canfield wrote: Wow that is ugly with that gold bottom and chrome wheels. How about the ROLEX badge on the trunk lid? Almost as funny as the price. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list arch

Re: [MBZ] CL laugh of the day

2011-10-21 Thread Michael Canfield
Wow that is ugly with that gold bottom and chrome wheels. Mike On Oct 21, 2011 8:07 AM, "Mitch Haley" wrote: > http://saginaw.craigslist.org/**cto/2649961777.html > > __**_ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new

[MBZ] OT Airplane pr0n

2011-10-21 Thread Rich Thomas
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2011/10/video-air-to-air-with-anas-787-dreamliner/ --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go

[MBZ] CL laugh of the day

2011-10-21 Thread Mitch Haley
http://saginaw.craigslist.org/cto/2649961777.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailm

Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it

2011-10-21 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
$400-500... I forget exactly. The other guy's company wanted $700. On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: > Jaime, > > What was the buyout from your insurance company, if I might ask? > > Dan > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 21, 2011, at 7:55 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > > > For

Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it

2011-10-21 Thread Dan Penoff
NADA is the only real reference out there. I always love looking at Kelley BB, as the trade in values obviously benefit the dealer as do the resale prices NADA Black Book is the one to have. A dealer only subscription service, it is very accurate, especially on a local market basis. Dan Se

Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it

2011-10-21 Thread Dan Penoff
Jaime, What was the buyout from your insurance company, if I might ask? Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21, 2011, at 7:55 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > For your reference, I was just paid about $6500 for my '95 E320 wagon with > 110k miles by my insurance company. (Also note the "other guys" i

Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it

2011-10-21 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
For your reference, I was just paid about $6500 for my '95 E320 wagon with 110k miles by my insurance company. (Also note the "other guys" insurance wanted to pay me $5000.) I found that to be more than enough to buy the parts (original MB) and repair the car properly, so I did. Just got it back

Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it

2011-10-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Maybe you can replace it for $3500. OTOH, you had that car pretty much sorted out, and anything you buy to replace it will likely need some money and time thrown into it. This one is probably worth more than yours, and they've already posted it on CL 21 times since 9-13. http://albuquerque.cr

Re: [MBZ] Well, they are going to total it

2011-10-21 Thread Mitch Haley
I'm sure you know the $2300 Edmund's retail is a joke. Go to a used car dealer and see what $2300 really buys. Is $3778 the car's replacement value, or the check they'll write after deductible? Depending on condition, you might be able to replace it for $3500+tax, but I'm pretty sure that wou